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Here's wishing you a belated welcome to Wikipedia, Truladypleaser. Thank you for your contributions. Here are some useful links, which have information to help editors get the most out of Wikipedia:

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Again, welcome! Jytdog (talk) 20:39, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism warnings

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Information icon Hello, I'm NawlinWiki. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Ancient and Honorable Order of Turtles because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! NawlinWiki (talk) 16:09, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages, such as Turtles Worldwide The Movement, to Wikipedia, as doing so is not in accordance with our policies. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Wikipedia:Your first article; you might also consider using the Article Wizard. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. It doesn't matter who you claim to have permission from. You need to cite reliable, verifiable, independent sources (see WP:V) to show that your group is notable per WP:ORG. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:26, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Username

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Just FYI, your username is distasteful; you are telling other editors here something about yourself, and you may want to rethink it. You can change it here, if you like, using this form. Jytdog (talk) 20:13, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest in WIkipedia

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Hi Truladypleaser. I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia along with my regular editing. Based on what you wrote here, you have a clear conflict of interest in Wikipedia with regard to Sigma Alpha Gamma. I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below.

Information icon Hello, Truladypleaser. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:

  • avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your family, friends, school, company, club, or organization, as well as any competing companies' projects or products;
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  • exercise great caution so that you do not violate Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you.

Comments and requests

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Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).

Disclosure is the most important, and first, step. Would you please add a disclosure to your Userpage User:Truladypleaser (a redlink, because you haven't written anything there yet; please note that if you change your username, that page will be moved to the new account)? Something simple like: "I am the founder and national president of the Sigma Alpha Gamma fraternity; I have a conflict of interest with regard to that topic in Wikipedia." If you want to add anything else there that is relevant to what you want to do in WP feel free to add it, but please don't add anything promotional about the fraternity (see WP:USERPAGE for guidance if you like).

The second is a form of peer review" This piece may seem a bit strange to you at first, but if you think about it, it will make sense. In Wikipedia, editors can immediately publish their work, with no intervening publisher or standard peer review -- you can just create an article, click save, and viola there is a new article, and you can go into any article, make changes, click save, and done. No intermediary - no publisher, no "editors" as that term is used in the real world. So the bias that conflicted editors tend to have, can go right into the article. Conflicted editors are also really driven to try to make the article fit with their external interest. If they edit directly, this often leads to big battles with other editors.

What we ask editors to do who have a COI and want to work on articles where their COI is relevant, is a) if you want to create an article relevant to a COI you have, create the article as a draft, disclose your COI on the Talk page using the appropriate template, and then submit the draft article through the WP:AFC process so it can be reviewed before it publishes; and b) And if you want to change content in any existing article on a topic where you have a COI, we ask you to propose content on the Talk page for others to review and implement before it goes live, instead of doing it directly yourself.

By following those peer review processes, editors with a COI can contribute where they have a COI, and the integrity of WP can be protected. We get some great contributions that way, when conflicted editors take the time to understand what kinds of proposals are OK under the content policies. (which I will say more about, if you want).

I hope that makes sense to you. .

Will you please agree to follow the peer review processes going forward, when you want to work on any article where your COI is relevant? Do let me know, and if anything above doesn't make sense I would be happy to discuss. And if you want me to quickly go over the content policies, I can do that. Just let me know. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 20:19, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You have logged back in; would you please reply here? Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 19:43, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Sigma Alpha Gamma Military Fraternity, Inc., requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. reddogsix (talk) 13:47, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Sigma Alpha Gamma Military Fraternity, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. reddogsix (talk) 16:39, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fraternities

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I assume that this is about two pages you created recently, Sigma Alpha Gamma Military Fraternity and Sigma Alpha Gamma Military Fraternity, Inc. If it's not, please let me know. Since the two pages' contents were virtually identical, only one answer is needed for these two.

The article included extensive first-person writing that conveys nothing factual while making the organisation seem wonderful, e.g. "Our purpose is to be more than a set of Greek letters but a family." Highlighting several of the "Men of Vision" likewise makes the organisation seem wonderful without conveying encyclopedic information about SAG itself. The page describes SAG as fulfilling "a more noble and glorious purpose", "a true foundation and brotherhood", and something that will help potential members "achieve their highest potential both professionally and personally". There are other bits with which I won't bother you. All of these are talking about how wonderful SAG is; they're not neutral factual descriptions of what SAG actually does, and because the article was full of such content, the whole thing qualified to be deleted. This is a normal result of writing about an organisation with which you're affiliated (see WP:COI, our conflict-of-interest page); you really would do better to let the article be written by someone unaffiliated with SAG.

Any other questions? Ask away; I'm guessing that my response is sufficient, but if my guess is wrong, I'll be happy to provide extra information. Nyttend (talk) 12:18, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is the first FULL explanation i got. So the Men of vision portion can be just informative but not a first person thing. I will allow someone other than a member write the article. If that is done am i allowed to then add the crest and images?