User talk:Gabby Merger/Archive 2
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Accusations of stalking, etc.
If you believe someone is WP:Hounding you, take it up at WP:ANI, but please don't make such accusations on article talk pages. Read the link. Editors can follow other editor's edits. I certainly do. There's nothing wrong with that in itself. When it is done just to harass, not because of a belief that an editor is failing to follow guidelines or policies, then it is clearly wrong. But I don't see that happening. Doug Weller (talk) 15:40, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Now that I've seen you've been blocked recently for personal attacks, convince me you shouldn't be taken to ANI
You were warned last year about personal attacks. Now I've seen that you've not only been warned this year but blocked by User:Bishonen 2 weeks ago, yet you've ignored all that and carried on. Clearly I'm not going to use my Admin tools with you, but like anyone else I can report you to ANI. Doug Weller (talk) 15:53, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Editor Jeffro77 watches every significant edit or addition I make, always disrupts it, reverts it, hurts it, hounding everywhere I go, checking every thing I do, as he has me on his watchlist, and it makes it very unnerving to meaningfully contribute on Wikipedia. He has been hounding and following me around, all the time, for a few months now, to the point where I can’t move or do much (except for very minor insignificant things) on any religious or theological article, because of personal bias and animus against me, and it’s very discouraging at this point. I told Jeffro77 a number of times to stop that, not to check all my edits and to leave me alone, but he continues. It’s a bit creepy and stalkish, quite frankly, and I feel the need (because it get too stressful and silly after a while) to stop contributing on Wikipedia at least on this current user name I use. It’s gotten that bad. No one else does this, to me, but Jeffo77. (Except for Admin Bishonen of course, with her rudeness, incivility, and bias, that no other Admin has ever given me.) I was simply stating what happened. Forgive the bluntness. Gabby Merger (talk) 16:12, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
"to stop contributing on Wikipedia at least on this current user name I use"
It's no surprise to see you remove my block notice promptly. I have one more thing to say, though, sorry: you state just above that you're thinking of ceasing to edit Wikipedia "at least" under this user name. If that means you wish to create another account, I've no objection as long as you abide by WP:CLEANSTART, i. e. "edit in new areas and avoid old disputes, and .. follow community norms of behavior". Be sure not to use any new account while you're blocked, as that would be block evasion. A block applies to the person, not the account. There, now I'm done. Bishonen | talk 17:20, 1 November 2015 (UTC).
- The only reason Jeffro77 has not reverted me in a few weeks is because I did not make any significant edits in a few weeks. Whenever I have though, he jumps on it with his clear following and hounding. You'll never see, acknowledge, or admit that, of course because you're biased towards me big time and you do it yourself. But, no, Bishonen, they were not "baseless charges". Again...the only reason it's been a while since Jeffro77 hounded me is because it's been a while since I made any meaningful edits, but he follows me around and disrupts edits. And frankly but honestly, the fact is that you're too biased YOURSELF, and dishonest to acknowledge, bluntly speaking. I only would generally remove stuff that was put on this page from you. As you're a very biased and uncivil human being, editor, and Admin. At least with me (and I can tell with some others too, as you're very block-happy with others too I've noticed.) I told you also to not engage me anymore, but you've been arguably following me around too. So of course you won't see it as hounding when someone like Jeffro77 does it. You've been horrendous with me quite frankly. Sorry if that sounds like a personal attack, but it's just a fact.
- Doug Weller, who is also an Admin, and I've had dealings with him for months and months, some times agreeing but usually in disagreement, I have no big problem with at all, and don't consider him as I do you. So my point is that it's not a me thing, but a YOU thing...at least in major part. (By the way, that 1 day block I got in August was admitted to be a mistake, as that cool Admin reversed it minutes later, where ironically enough, Jeffro77 of all people in August kinda came to my defense. Go figure.) You've been so blatantly biased and uncivil with me, and putting me down with EVERYTHING, like a few weeks ago, as an example, on Jeffo's page where I clearly proved that YOU YOURSELF said that the change from "Hebrew Bible" to "Hebrew Scriptures" was a "major change" in general, and you made some very insulting remark about it that I had no case, and rudely uncivilly calling my quote of your own words "hair-raisingly illogical", even though it logically proved true what I was saying clearly, that the whole stupid affair weeks ago was about both you and Jeppiz thinking that that mod of mine was a "major change". Right from the beginning. Jeffro beat the dead horse though, and brought it up again that day, and didn't leave it alone. So you have double standards for people you like and people you have a prejudice against, when it comes to "dead horse beating" and "personal attacks". That's real sweet, Bishonen. You were saying I had no case with that, even though I proved in black-in-white what you yourself clearly said. You're dishonest and biased, hypocritical, disrespectful and uncivil. You personally attacked me a number of times BUT DON'T LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. You'll simply delusionally believe you're just stating a fact about me and pointing something out. Sighs... But when I do it, even in somewhat civil terms, it's still a "personal attack". I simply can't win with you, no matter what. It's a losing proposition. Which is why I asked you to not engage or contact me ever again, and leave it ot other Admins if that's the case. Of course you couldn't do that. (Birds of a feather with Jeffro77.) You couldn't even acknowledge the clear fact that I was right, but said I was wrong, when I was so obviously correct that YOU said it was a "major change" in general. As I proved from quoting your very words in your comment, to make it clear where I was coming from to Jeffro, as he bad-faith assumed I was lying. You didn't call him out on his personal attack and accusations and incivility. How can a rude cop call out a rude perp on something that the rude cop herself is doing and is in sync with the rude perp? That's how it goes in Russia. The victim will be DOUBLE-VICTIMIZED. First by the perp, then by the corrupt cop. Who won't be fair, honest, objective, or balanced. And the vic will never get justice, or a truly fair treatment. Tunnel vision will prevent that. And I don't care anymore what you think of that (obviously). I do feel sad that it got like this, as I'd prefer cool collaberation, civility and cordial understanding and respect. You showed zero of that to me. And neither has Jeffro77. Jeppiz (believe it or not) has shown more. And so has Editor2020, who I also don't agree with usually. We obviously don't like each other, though, and you've been hounding me too. I'm not perfect, I know. But neither is Jeffro77, and neither are you. Not even close. I was simply stating though what Jeffro77 was doing that you like to diss me about and call "baseless charges" and totally invalidate my feelings rudely and disrespectfully. Not cool. As far as "clean slate", you act like I don't already have other accounts. And other IP computers and addresses. I hardly ever go on them, as I rarely even use this main one (overall) compared to some other WP editors. I don't live on Wikipedia. But none of that excuses the appalling behavior from Jeffo77, as well as yours. (You've been HORRIBLE with ...Bishonen...seriously....ghastly so.) And very pot-kettle-black, all over the place. Just being frank and honest. If you want to block me further, I don't care at this point. Facts are facts, and TWO TO TANGO.
- I'm not perfect every second every syllable. I know that, and I am sincerely sorry for that. But if you think you've been fair, balanced, honest, accurate, civil, perfect, and totally reasonable, well...I won't say what word would fit that delusion. I don't like being hounded and stalked...and second-guessed, and disrespected, out of personal bias, with incivility and animus. I'm funny that way. Doug Weller, I don't agree with totally, but I take his warnings and remarks respectfully you notice, and simply state my reasons for seeming to give "personal attacks" to Jeffro77, out of response to his constant insults, coldness, unprofessionalism, hounding, and disrespect. It's that simple. I thank you for your time. Gabby Merger (talk) 17:47, 1 November 2015 (UTC)