User talk:Fylindfotberserk/Archives/2024/April

Requesting some article expansion help

Greetings @Fylindfotberserk

Hi, I am User:Bookku, On Wikipedia I engage in, finding information and knowledge gap areas in Wikipedia and promoting expansion of related drafts and articles. Came across your user profile (from article history Homi Adajania) .

Requesting your visit to My Choice (2015 film) (still a draft in my userspace) and help expand the topic areas if you find topic interesting. Wish you very happy Wikipedia editing.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 07:12, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

@Bookku: Thanks for communicating. Can you arrange the sources properly. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:54, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Well I renamed collection of still unused refs under "Refs for expansion" with sub-sections news sources non-news sources and filled refs.

If we shift RS-doubtful to talk page it will reduce stress of unwanted. But I am not much used to Indian films in regard to WP:RS so you will need to help me. If all that is still confusing we can shift the collection of refs to the talk page.

Please do suggest. I am happy for your contributions and help. Bookku (talk) 11:39, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

@Bookku: Please visit WP:ICTF, WP:ICTFFAQ for Indian-cinema related RS. Do the needful, I'll have a look after I go through by watchlist. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:52, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Okay thanks Bookku (talk) 11:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for above links. At least in the first look I did not see any contentious news site links. Bookku (talk) 12:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you! I see you had been sockpuppet hunting. I have been away (RL) and shall continue to be sporadic for some time. But your help during this time is greatly appreciated. Chaipau (talk) 21:54, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

@Chaipau: Thanks man. There are a few pending, e.g. I see Wordrain made a new SP. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:16, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Our friend is running amuck as an IP editor. I have made a report here: [1]. I hope you can keep an eye out. Chaipau (talk) 23:49, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

@Chaipau: Seems like this guy also. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:01, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes... Chaipau (talk) 11:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

@Chaipau: I wonder what's this guy is upto. Making changes to infoboxes in bulk.? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

This looks like an SPA. The user seem to have discovered their calling in life and even named themselves accordingly. I wonder whether the Odiya scripted name is a sock or they constitute a sock farm. Chaipau (talk) 15:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

@Chaipau: Got CU blocked, but not written who. The guy seem to have some sort of interest in NE tribe articles. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Ugh, yet another line of Socks!? But good riddance, though.

Also, some of the IP ranges have been blocks for our friend. But I think, inadvertently. Chaipau (talk) 18:56, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

I hope you are looking at Ahom kingdom edits and talk page discussions. Cheers. Chaipau (talk) 18:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

@Chaipau: Another IP sock Facepalm. Feel like banreverting tehir edits. We did that with one at Marathi brahmin related articles. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Ufff! Chaipau (talk) 21:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

"possibly it supports this sentence"

Hi Fylindfotberserk,

I am very curious about your edit here. Do you routinely add citations to articles on a hunch that the source could "possibly" support a sentence, without checking whether it actually does? Regards, HaeB (talk) 03:55, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

@HaeB: That's why I wrote 'possibly', since your edit rendered the residual sentence citation-less. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:17, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

That's a strange response. (FYI, the sentence had been present in the article long before that citation was added with another sentence.)

You haven't answered the question whether you routine add citations to articles without checking that they actually support the content they are cited for. Considering the amount of content you have contributed, that's a very relevant question. If it turns out that you have frequently faked citations, the community may need to undertake a wider review of that content and possibly consider administrative sanctions. If, on the other hand, this was just an isolated incident where you temporarily forgot about the importance of WP:INTEGRITY, it would be good to clarify that now. Regards, HaeB (talk) 05:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

@HaeB: What part of this simple sentence - "Restoring source, possibly it supports this sentence" - you don't understand? Reiterating - I didn't 'add' a new citation, I 'restored' a previously existing one because your edit rendered a sentence citation-less. Perhaps remove the whole para or add your own citations next time for the sake of WP:V WP:INTEGRITY instead of harassing (WP:CIVIL) and threatening (WP:THREATEN) other users doing mere restoration/cleanup. You could have removed the whole sentence as of now instead of repeatedly commenting on my t/p questioning my ethics. @Doug Weller: Please see. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

@HaeB That would be a waste of time and your initial and following posts fail to assume good faith. Please WP:DROPTHESTICK Doug Weller talk 14:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

See

[2]. and my post below. You think this editor is ok? Doug Weller talk 13:25, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Well, our initial interaction was me reverting their newbie edits a few years back. Over the years, I've come to trust this user. Makes good edits, without bias (not apparent to me atleast) and haven't seen them edit warring. As for the content, the residual part - "The original structure was destroyed by Mahmud Begada in 1472." seems sourced in Dwarkadhish Temple#History - Thus the sultan decide to capture Dwarka and in 1473 began marching towards the city. The Raja of Dwarka Bhim and his Rajputs fled the city to the island fortress of Bet, allowing Mahmud Begada to plunder Dwarka, destroy buildings and the Dwarkadhish temple and destroy its idol.[12], but the source used is British Era, hence may not be usable per WP:RAJ. It is not linked in the article, here's the URL [3]. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:59, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, they've told me I missed that and I've looked at the source. . But I've responded wondering if the source is an RS. I'm chasing that up. Doug Weller talk 14:27, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

User:Goodfacts666

Goodfacts666 has been removing sourced content from various articles, please go through her contributions and revert what you feel is inappropriate, post a warning on her User talk page and if necessary, report her to WP:ANI. Given her ability to use WP:HotCat, I don't think she is a new user having made just a little over 200 edits. Please start a WP:SPI if you can!-Haani40 (talk) 18:00, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't see her edit warring, nor making any bad faith edits/vandalism. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Also, this is a diff of her ability to auto-collapse sections in the Template:Sikh_Empire template which certainly a new user cannot do. You need to find out from her edits if she is a sock-puppet and report her!-Haani40 (talk) 19:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

@Haani40: Ok, they might not be a new user. But, whose SP would they be? Diffs? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

She has made more than 200 edits and it is difficult for me to go through all of those but if you find something pointing to sock-puppetry, please report her!-Haani40 (talk) 19:16, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

A new user cannot do this or this or this.-Haani40 (talk) 19:30, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Can't report someone based on a hunch. Need concrete proof, that is similar diffs, editing areas, shared by this ID and others. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:44, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the problem. This is another diff of her collapsing text.-Haani40 (talk) 19:50, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

In her very first edit she added a {{cn}} tag; a newbie would not know about that.-Haani40 (talk) 19:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

In her second edit she added an image - a newcomer would not be able to do that.-Haani40 (talk) 20:02, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

in her seventh edit she uses another sophisticated tool.-Haani40 (talk) 20:08, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

In this edit she has commented out some text instead of adding a {{cn}} template.-Haani40 (talk) 20:34, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Not new

(In my Darth Vader/James Earl Jones voice). Yes. The Wikilawyering is strong with that one. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: (In Yoda's voice), "I agree" . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

I can't breathe in this thing --Dark Helmet -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:23, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: What?! You went over my helmet? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

No more like around. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Tasumluke

You didn't call them a terrorist. I hope. 😲 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Nope, never. That's an allegation against me. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Apart from sockpuppetry, an obvious case of falsification of sourced content (including census data) can be observed in their edits. For example:-

Here they claim Hinduism is "not the plurality religion of the state" of Arunachal Pradesh, while at "29.04%" it definitely is and the second largest religion of the state.

Here they claimed Tamang, Rai, Limbu to be a part of the Gorkha. Gorkha is an ethno-cultural group, not an ethno-linguistic mega group.

Here they claimed Lepcha people are a Sikkimese. Sikkimese is a demonym, not an ethno-linguistic group either, and Lepchas are native inhabitants of other states as well.

The whole set of edits from this to this is nothing but arbitrary grouping and arrangements in an effort to club diverse independently notable ethnic groups together, in line with the 'idea' of the proposed state of WESEA, denying them of their separate identity which is maintained in Wikipedia. Apart from the large chunk of undue material, see this attempt at POVpushing the name of proposed state in the lead / hatnote. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes I have little confidence in their ability to contribute constructively.

I feel like often when new users accuse established. Users POV pushing. It's because they are The onePOV pushing.. Pardon my phone it doesn't know how to format. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:35, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Yeah, exactly. .. I've faced similar issues editing using my phone . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: I wonder what's happening in their talk page [4] [5]. Some sort of congregation of people interested in WESEA may be. Future sock/meat puppets? The IP range is showing Tinsikia, Assam, a place in northeast India. Please have a look. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: Intrigued and curious as well. Off Wiki canvass? Socks? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:31, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Something very peculiar, certainly. Don't think it's the same person, off-wiki coordination would be my best guess. Girth Summit _(blether) 17:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

SP

Please have a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Manipuri. Due to their edits being stale, they were not taken any action. Pinging @RoySmith who's the last checkuser to leave a message in the investigation. Haoreima (talk) 11:06, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Looks like a WP:DUCK. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Have a look at this newbie. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

As of now, this user seemed to be interested in different countries around the world. They did some editings of different states of India, but had not touched a single Manipur or Meitei related articles yet. Their editings on Nagaland article didn't seem to be ethnocentric as of now. It seems unlikely to be a sock, in case of suspicion related to the previously blocked user who was Naga ethnocentric & anti Meitei. Haoreima (talk) 19:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Yes, exactly, no DUCKY behaviour till now. I'm keeping a tab at 'em. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Ankush Khardori

Ankush Khardori AltruisticHomoSapien (talk) 16:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Can you take a look at this page I created

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AltruisticHomoSapien#c-GSS-20240426150200-Ankush_Khardori_moved_to_draftspace

I believe it meets Notability criteria.

What do you think? AltruisticHomoSapien (talk) 16:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

@AltruisticHomoSapien: Skimming through, it seems majority of the sources aren't third-paty, I mean they are written by the subject himself. So ventures into WP:SPS territory. You need to replace them with third party sources first. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:10, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Tyrannorevert

If it wasn't obvious, I reverted Lythronaxargestes by accident because I was too slow; I thought I was reverting the IP, but it had already been reverted. FunkMonk (talk) 17:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

@FunkMonk: Fair enough. Regards - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

No offence taken! Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 17:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Your view?

Hello @Fylindfotberserk, what's your opinion on Talk:Maratha Empire#Requested move 17 April 2024? PadFoot2008 06:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

@PadFoot2008: Well per Google Scholar, we have more hits for Maratha Empire as opposed to Maratha Confederacy. The former seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME. Have to discuss it thoroughly instead of merely voting on it if POV is a question and if not solely basing on the commonname policy. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Article titles are supposed to be neutral rather than just the most common name. Preferably, the most neutral sounding one of all the various common names. Both Maratha Confederacy and Maratha Empire have nearly equal number of uses in Google Books in recent decades it appears, with the latter being slightly more, but "Maratha Confederacy" is considerably more neutral, while Empire is considered an exaggeration. I am open to discussion. PadFoot2008 10:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)