User talk:Freonfreakone

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Speedy deletion nomination of CyPhaCon

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Ahh, well. I understand the deletion of the CyPhaCon article, since it was only a first year event. I'm not happy about it, but I understand it. However, it is my intention to revisit this issue, once CyPhaCon completes it's second event next year.Freonfreakone (talk) 19:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Convention du Lac Edit War

{{helpme}} I've recently run into a problem with editing the Convention du Lac article. Apparently, my extensive participation in two of the three events (making me VERY knowledgeable of what occurred both in public and private, with a bare minimum of conjecture), and contributions to expanding and fleshing out the article are considered somehow disruptive; a user or users (all of whom I suspect are user jtoney5872, who originated the article) are continually 'undo'ing my improvements, without discussion or compromise. These users refuse to discuss WHY they're doing what they're doing; I'M open to correction and/or compromise, if they'd just respond to my solicitations on the Convention du Lac 'Talk' page. But no dice. So, I'm thinking of waiting until they make one or two more 'undo's, then requesting some sort of arbitration from other users or the Admins...a seemingly complicated process on the surface, but I don't know how else to resolve the problem. I'd be interested in other opinions; am I being obtuse or selfish in wanting a complete telling of Convention du Lac history in the article?Freonfreakone (talk) 20:17, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can see exactly why they're reverting you. You are not adhering to [[WP:NPOV] - 'undaunted' and 'Seeking a fresh and innovative direction' (to give two examples) are not neutral. Your edits give the impression that you are editing for the event, and you should, if this is the case, read WP:COI. Another point is that you give no references. Sorry, you might know more about it than anyone but you are not an independent reliable source. See WP:RS. Without RS, it counts as WP:OR, original research. While it might have been better for the reverters to discuss with you on the talk page, your edits were not really suitable. They could have explained this to you, but they might have been put off by your tone on the talk page. This might be unintentional on your part, but you do give me the impression that you have taken the article over, and I would advise looking at WP:OWN if only for tips on how not to appear to be failing this unintentionally. Very probably, both sides here have been acting in good faith, but I would like to see a bit of real communication and adherence to the policies. I'll leave the helpme up for another opinion. Peridon (talk) 20:36, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Peridon for your analysis. To say I find editing Wikipedia articles to be complicated is an understatement. But I'll take your recommendations to heart, and will attempt to alter my Convention du Lac edits, or any others, accordingly. Thanks again.Freonfreakone (talk) 21:53, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To expand on one aspect of that: Wikipedia's three main content policies are:

WP:Neutral point of view, which Peridon mentioned,
WP:Verifiability: "all quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source... The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true."
WP:No original research: "The term "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published source exists."

The last two mean that content based on your "extensive participation in two of the three events (making me VERY knowledgeable of what occurred both in public and private, with a bare minimum of conjecture)" is not acceptable as a basis for additions to the article.

I hope your question is adequately answered, so I have "turned off" the "helpme" - please add another if you need more advice. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:06, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, John; I appreciate the input from you both. I must admit that I didn't, in my impatience, give sufficient time or effort to studying Wiki policies; I jumped into the 'deep end' and floundered about. But rest assured that my next editing efforts will be of a more educated nature, complying with Wiki policy, objectivity, and neutrality, thanks to you and Peridon.Freonfreakone (talk) 23:19, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for listening. So many don't... Sorry if I seemed a bit rude - I find it concentrates the mind of the recipient quite often. Like most admins here, I'm really quite friendly. 8-[ Peridon (talk) 15:55, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Denver, Colorado Hop Alley/Chinese Riot of 1880 concern

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Chinese Riot of 1880 (April 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by AngusWOOF were:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

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This reads like some other magazine article's writeup of the riot, especially with the headers. I am concerned it may have been copy-pasted from there.

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AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Freonfreakone! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Denver, Colorado Hop Alley/Chinese Riot of 1880

Hello, Freonfreakone. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Chinese Riot of 1880".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:43, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]