User talk:Franklin187

Your submission at Articles for creation: Benjamin Schnau (December 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by AngusWOOF were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Benjamin Schnau and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:21, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Franklin187! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:21, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Benjamin Schnau (December 19)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AngusWOOF was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Benjamin Schnau and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Benjamin Schnau, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:08, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Benjamin Schnau (December 19)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AngusWOOF was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Benjamin Schnau and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Benjamin Schnau, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
• If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk or on the reviewer's talk page.
• You can also use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:54, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Benjamin Schnau (December 20)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Whispering was: This topic is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: It is obvious you are not actually trying to make this draft better please read the decline notices and ask for help at the teahouse before submitting again.

Whispering^(t) 13:58, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello Whispering,

I received a message that I should connect all the articles with the sources. I did already on my last change. What are you still asking for?

Pls review the page its all connected.

Thanks in advance

How to write articles

If you're going to write an article about anyone or anything that is not you or something you are connected to, here are the steps you should follow:

1) Choose a topic whose notability is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources.

2) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find. Google Books is a good resource for this. Also, while search engine resutls are tnot sources, they are where you can find sources. Just remember that they need to be professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources.

3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.

4) Summarize those sources left after step 3, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer. Make sure this summary is just bare statement of facts, phrased in a way that even someone who hates the subject can agree with.

5) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.

6) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.

7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.

8) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 3 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).

Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion.

If you are writing about yourself, or someone or something you are connected with (such as a friend, family member, or your business), the following steps are different:

1) If the subject really was notable, you wouldn't need to write the article. Remember that articles are owned by the Wikipedia community as a whole, not the article subject or the article author. If you do not want other people to write about you, then starting an article about yourself is a bad idea.

8a) If the article is accepted, never edit it again. Instead, make edit requests on the article's talk page.

8b) If the article is rejected, there will be a reason given. Read it carefully and closely. If there are links in the reason, open them and read those pages.

Ian.thomson (talk) 21:29, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

December 2018

Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. I am glad to see that you are discussing a topic. However, as a general rule, talk pages are for discussion related to improving the article in specific ways based on reliable sources and the project policies and guidelines, not for general discussion about the topic or unrelated topics, or statements based on your thoughts or feelings. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. Thank you. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:53, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser, could you please provide a diff for the above? Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 02:14, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

John from Idegon here --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:18, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

You must disclose your affiliation with Schnau on your user page

Hello Franklin187. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, and that you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to Black hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Franklin187. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Franklin187|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, please do not edit further until you answer this message. Ian.thomson (talk) 05:56, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Let me break the above down for you a bit further. From your somewhat nebulous answers at the Teahouse on the subject of COI, you clearly have a conflict of interest. That requires you to declare that in certain prescribed ways (see link to COI above). However, I agree completely with Ian that it appears you are a WP:PAID editor. You are considered paid if any of the following are true:

1. You are writing this article directly for compensation ie, the subject or his people have made an arraignment with you whereby you will write an article and they will provide you with a financial consideration for it.
2. You are employed by the subject or his business interest directly ie, you are a personal or administrative assistant, you handle media relations, internet or social media management, or publicity.
3. You have a financial stake in his success, ie you are a backer, or a commissioned employee or contractor, such as an agent or publicist.
4. You work for a firm or agency that provides any of the services to the subject mentioned in the the three points above.

No matter which it is (COI/PAID), the very next thing on your Wikipedia plate is dealing with this question. Please do not edit the draft or ask any further questions about it until you've made all the appropriate declarations. If you're not clear about COI policy, feel free to ask here. Both Ian and I are watching your talk page. Note that your behavior at the Teahouse has attracted the attention of multiple administrators and be further advised that WP:UPE is a blockable offense. John from Idegon (talk) 07:00, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

December 2018

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), such as at Wikipedia:Teahouse, please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:

1. Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or
2. With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window.

This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.

Thank you. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:48, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Schnau shorter

I cut a lot from the Schnau draft in an attempt to make it neutral. Still needs a lot of work cleaning up the referencing, and to be very honest, may at this time not meet Wikipedia's standard for notability for a actor. Perhaps just WP:TOOSOON. David notMD (talk) 17:03, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

May still be too soon

Once into January, you may consider resubmitting the draft to AfC. It is now more neutral in tone and the references fixed. Still may be rejected as 'too soon.' An other option would be to wait until after The Purge: Survival is released. Then, the Leo Barnes article could be updated and this article linked to it. David notMD (talk) 12:22, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Your thread has been archived

Hi Franklin187! You created a thread called Hi everyone. Could you pls review the article for Benjamin Schnau after I made last requested changes at Wikipedia:Teahouse, but it has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please create a new thread. Archival by Lowercase sigmabot III, notification delivery by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} (ban this bot) or {{nobots}} (ban all bots) on your user talk page. Muninnbot (talk) 19:02, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Benjamin Schnau has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Benjamin Schnau. Thanks! CoolSkittle (talk) 06:02, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Your thread has been archived

Hi Franklin187! You created a thread called Follow-up to Hi everyone. Could you pls review the article for Benjamin Schnau after I made last requested changes at Wikipedia:Teahouse, but it has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please create a new thread. Archival by Lowercase sigmabot III, notification delivery by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} (ban this bot) or {{nobots}} (ban all bots) on your user talk page. Muninnbot (talk) 19:00, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Benjamin Schnau has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Benjamin Schnau. Thanks! Worldbruce (talk) 15:21, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Benjamin Schnau (June 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Benjamin Schnau and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Benjamin Schnau, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
• If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Theroadislong (talk) 18:02, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Benjamin Schnau (October 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Benjamin Schnau and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Benjamin Schnau, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
• If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Theroadislong (talk) 16:41, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Benjamin Schnau (November 25)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reasons left by DGG were: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Repeated ateemps at promotional page on non-notable performer.

Of the two major roles he has claimed to have "starred" in in the lede, the first is a very minor role not mentioned in the WP article, and the second is at most in a single episode.

DGG ( talk ) 03:48, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Benjamin Schnau concern

Hi there, I'm MDanielsBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Benjamin Schnau, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

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Thank you for your attention. MDanielsBot (talk) 15:38, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Benjamin Schnau

Hello, Franklin187. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Benjamin Schnau".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Roller26 (talk) 15:15, 23 August 2020 (UTC)