User talk:Fox3990

July 2024

Hello Fox3990. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Fox3990. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Fox3990|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. MrOllie (talk) 22:49, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello MrOllie - I appreciate your message! I'm new to this.

I do creative freelance work for Simon Woodroffe, and he has asked me to add more information to his page. He's an entrepreneur and founder of YO! Sushi and YOTEL.

I've tried to write completely factually and provide a good reference for everything - mostly newspaper online articles.

As you've suggested, I have updated my user page to disclose that I have a professional relationship with Simon Woodroffe. Sorry, I've tried very hard to make this an accurate article, but I didn't know that I should disclose on my user page. It is now done!

Best, Fox3990 Fox3990 (talk) 00:07, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate that you were trying to be factual, but your writing style was very promotional and was not suitable for an encyclopedia article. If you have specific factual changes to suggest - you may follow the suggested practices for COI editors and bring them up at the article's suggested talk page - but please do not try to rewrite the article itself again. MrOllie (talk) 02:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MrOllie, Thanks for saying I was trying to be factual - I really was! I hear what you're saying about writing style being promotional - I really tried not to be, but it's my first time trying to expand an article like this, so maybe I was. I'll follow what you say on it and take a look at the article's talk page.

Could I ask your advice on something? I know a LOT about Simon Woodroffe, and there is a tonne of widely published stuff about him that could be on this page but just isn't there. For example there could be a whole section about YOTEL, not just one line. If I really try to write it in a completely factual, encyclopedia style, can I submit new sections to be added to the article in the talk page?

I know wiki editors are volunteers, so I appreciate your time! Fox3990 (talk) 10:35, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, make submissions on the talk page. Do not directly edit the article as you have been doing. MrOllie (talk) 16:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MrOllie, Thanks, will do! I've submitted a one-line change to the Talk Page and will see what people think. It's completely factual, no opinion, sourced to a BBC article. It's pertinent information that is not on the existing page. Again, I appreciate any pointers - I'm really trying to do this properly and I appreciate your time. Fox3990 (talk) 17:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]