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TechExcel

As articles about this company have three times been deleted after deletion discussions (1, 2, 3), before you can post an article about it you will need permission from user Ihcoyc (talk · contribs), the admin who closed the most recent discussion and protected the title or, if he does not agree, from WP:Deletion review. I have returned your new version to your user space at User:Fjabbour/TechExcelDraft.

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a business listing directory or a vehicle for any kind of promotion; it does not expect to have articles about every company (but Wikicompany does). Articles have to be of enough general interest for an encyclopedia: the Wikipedia term for that is Notability, which is not a matter of opinion but needs to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The test is, have other people, independent of the subject, thought it significant enough to write about? More detail in Notability (organizations and companies).

Also, articles must be written from a neutral point of view, and so people are strongly discouraged from writing about themselves or their own organizations, because of the conflict of interest involved. If you are connected with the company, you should read:

For more advice, read the FAQ/Organizations, in particular the sections headed:

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:18, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

TechExel article

In my opinion, the version I read at User:Fjabbour/TechExcelDraft probably still isn't ready for prime time yet.

There still are no actual references to independent, reliable sources. All the actual references cited as references are to TechExcel internal sites, which means they're not independent.

The external links contain some sites discussing some of this business's products, which may be independent and reliable. But still, in order to confer notability on a business, the sources have to be about that business.

Moreover, the organization notability guideline mentions that sources with only "limited circulation or interest" do not really confer notability on a business or product. I don't think that Software Development Times or Dr. Dobbs' Journal really have wide readership outside the computing and IT industry, although Dr. Dobbs is something of an institution. At least from my perspective, the real question regarding notability is: would someone outside the programming or IT industries have a reason to have heard of this?

Finally: you're an employee of TechExcel according to your user page. It might be best if you waited until someone independently creates an article about the business, and if it truly has wide interest, that may happen in the fullness of time.

Hope this helps, even if it wasn't what you wanted to hear. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 20:57, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With regard to the sources you found and posted at my talk page, the only one that looks really helpful is the San Francisco Business Times one[1]. On the other hand, it's still just local coverage in a business paper, which may not get you past the bar itself. The other two, a listing page in a directory of businesses, does not really help in my opinion, and this reads like a press release, and is not independent: TechExcel, Inc., a leading provider of Application Lifecycle Management (ALM), IT Service Management (ITSM) and Customer Relationship Management (CRM) software solutions, today announced the release of ServiceWise 8.5 and CustomerWise 8.5. The latest releases include both new features and enhancements designed to increase visibility and provide intelligence for all customer support business processes and deliver a solution that supports the growing number of applications, devices, and mobility of today's workforce.

Hope this is helping. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 16:43, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]