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Thanks a lot for your help Biographer ! Farawahar (talk) 22:27, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, thanks for your remark but i have not copied text from Algebra, i take a little part of the article Timeline of Algebra and mixed it with the statements of Boyer and Gandz.

This is what is in the article "Timeline of Algebra":

" Al-Khwarizmi is often considered the "father of algebra", for founding algebra as an independent discipline and for introducing the methods of "reduction" and "balancing" (the transposition of subtracted terms to the other side of an equation, that is, the cancellation of like terms on opposite sides of the equation) which was what he originally used the term al-jabr to refer to."

This is what i wrote in the article on Al-Khwarizmi:

"Because he is the first to teach algebra as an independent discipline and introduced the methods of "reduction" and "balancing" (the transposition of subtracted terms to the other side of an equation, that is, the cancellation of like terms on opposite sides of the equation), he has been described as the father of algebra"

This is what C. B. Boyer states:

(Boyer 1991, "The Arabic Hegemony" p. 229) "It is not certain just what the terms al-jabr and muqabalah mean, but the usual interpretation is similar to that implied in the translation above. The word al-jabr presumably meant something like "restoration" or "completion" and seems to refer to the transposition of subtracted terms to the other side of an equation; the word muqabalah is said to refer to "reduction" or "balancing" - that is, the cancellation of like terms on opposite sides of the equation."

And yhis is what S. Gandz states:

S Gandz, The sources of al-Khwarizmi's algebra, Osiris, i (1936), 263-77,"Al-Khwarizmi's algebra is regarded as the foundation and cornerstone of the sciences. In a sense, al-Khwarizmi is more entitled to be called "the father of algebra" than Diophantus because al-Khwarizmi is the first to teach algebra in an elementary form and for its own sake, Diophantus is primarily concerned with the theory of numbers."

You can see that i have not copied text from one article into another but that i mixed 3 texts in a way to find a concensus. Farawahar (talk) 14:18, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal?

To point out what should be obvious, getting all angry and flinging around accusations of "vandal" [1] is not the way to make friends and influence people William M. Connolley (talk) 21:55, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want a vandal like you as friend. How do you call your behavior ? If you don't have a legit explanation for your disruptive edits, then stay off my talk page. Farawahar (talk) 23:56, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Your recent edit

Concerning your recent edit in Mubariz al-Din Muhammad article, could you further explain why you deleted referenced information and added a source that doesn't imply what you stated?

Your source state "a Persian dynasty. Their ancestors came from Arabia" and "The Arabo-Persian dynasty Muzaffarids" the author didn't state or mention Mubariz al--Din which goes against WP:NOR policy:

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Clear case of WP:NOR. Therefore if you're incapable of providing the necessary materials, your remark would be removed. If you further disrupt the page and escalate the matter, administrator intervention is then needed. Best regards. Nabataeus (talk) 14:58, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be very selective when you use Wikipedia : you remind the rules to others but when it comes to you, you forget about the said rules...

And what about avoiding sock puppetry, edit warring, bombarding articles with unreliables sources to push your POV ? Nothing else than your usual behavior on Wikipedia !

To answer your question definitively :

1) Your source, a book from Carlos Ramirez-Faria (who is a Venezuelan economist and a specialist of the history of Venezuela), is not « referenced information » about the ethnicity of a medieval muslim dynasty, i thought it was clear but apparently not for everyone...

2) The Muzaffarids were a Persian dynasty of Arab origin, right ? Mubariz al-Din Muhammad was a Persian or Arab stands for he is a member of the Muzaffarids, yeah as simple as that, but again, not for someone like you. There is no interpretation or original research here, just logic, but you are so much blinded by your Arab nationalism that you can not see what is obvious but that goes against your opinion... If you want to call an admin, please be my guest and go ahead. The only disruptive editor between you and me is YOU.

3) I perfectly know what a sock puppet is, if i reported your behavior on the sock puppet investigation page about you, tarook97 and frasfras17 , it was to show your willingness to arabize wikipedia articles unduly, just like the other two users. If you have anything else to add, take your concerns to the talk page of Mubariz al-Din Muhammad where i opened a discussion.

4) Stay off my talk page you sock puppet.

Farawahar (talk) 22:00, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Ibn Taymiyyah

This source is written by Khwaja Khusro Tariq, who does not appear to be an historian.

"Khwaja Khusro Tariq

Poetry enthusiast, psychiatrist, socialist, interfaith activist
I was born in Lahore, Pakistan and spent my childhood in Nairobi, Kenya and Khartoum, Sudan where I completed most of elementary and middle school.After spending a brief period of time in Egypt and Saudi Arabia my family returned to Pakistan. I went to Medical School in Pakistan following which I worked for two years at the Pakistan Association for Mental Health. Most of my patients were refugees from Afghanistan and the Pashtun tribal belt in Pakistan. This was a very intense experience that has shaped significantly my views on war, refugees and humans in general. I moved to the United States in 2006 and completed my psychiatric training in Queens, NY in 2011. I am currently in Jungian psychoanalysis as part of further training to be a psychoanalyst. My long term pursuits have included fiction and non-fiction literature, poetry, psychoanalysis, art of all varieties and travel. My primary academic interests are religion, mythology, psychology, history and politics."

Also,the Encyclopaedia of Islam, makes no mention of his ethnicity;

"IBN TAYMIYYA, TAKI AL-DIN AHMAD IBN TAYMIYYA, born at Harran on 10 Rabi' I 661/22 January 1263 and died at Damascus on 20 Dhu 'lKa'da 728/26 September 1328, Hanbali theologian and jurisconsult. Belonging to a family which had already given to this school two well-known scholars, his uncle Fakhr al-Din (d. 622/1225) and his paternal grandfather Madjd al-Din (d. 653/1255), Ibn Taymiyya was forced to leave his native town in 667/1269 before the approach of the Mongols and to take refuge in Damascus with his father 'Abd al-Halim (d. 682/1284) and his three brothers."

Clearly this information should be removed until a reliable source, concerning his ethnicity, can be found. --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:21, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Kansas Bear: I removed the informations and reverted user:Arabos who removed « Arab or Kurdish » in the infobox and replaced it with « Arab », i’m going to warn them after this message. Since no reliable source is available (for now) for his ethnicity, i removed this line in the infobox. By the way, I had concerns about the Huffpost’s articles in general, being not sure of their reliability. My edit aimed to correct the dishonest behavior of user:Nabataeus who checks the (unreliable) source and can easily see « Arab father and Kurdish mother » but when it comes to edit the article, he replaces the sentence « Arab speaking father and Kurdish speaking mother » with « Arab father and Kurdish speaking mother ». This is an obvious lack of honesty. Thanks for your remarks.—>Farawahar (talk) 12:13, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

From what I could tell, the source was added by user:Arslan-san. So let's refrain from accusations and focus on finding reliable sources for articles. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:12, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@(User:Farawahar) your making things up, i removed the Kurdish part in the ethnicity section because it has a "citation needed" as it was unsourced, i didn't edit anything in the background section as you claim, you need to pay attention the next time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arabos (talk • contribs) 17:50, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Kansas Bear: I think you badly misunderstood what i said above, i was not talking about the user who added the source to the article, i was talking about the behavior of Nabataeus.

@Arabos: you removed an unsourced Kurdish claim while leaving the also unsourced Arab claim in the infobox and you have been reverted by two different users and you come here with your 5 days old account and your 25 edits to tell me to « pay attention the next time » ? I would suggest you go back to your own works, because you don’t seem to be here for constructive purposes.—>Farawahar (talk) 21:00, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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You are the user that they are claiming is stalking them. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:42, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, thanks, i know about his baseless accusations, i answered on his talk page. —>Farawahar (talk) 02:25, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Any insight

All of the sources indicate a Persian origin for Hookah, but some Indians say otherwise [2]. They are talking about random BBC articles with no relevance. Care to clarify? Hazratleri (talk) 05:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Hazratleri:, Hi, i have already removed one source for the Indian claim whiwh was cited twice and i will check the article and the sources as soon as i have a little time.Best regards—>Farawahar (talk) 16:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Farawahar. I think Raymond3023, Anupam, and Rzvas are the same user. They are outright lying. There is no source that indicates it was invented in Fatehpur Sikri, he/they made it up. The Indian propagandists are active here. They are totally lying. The references show that Abul Fath Gilani was of Iranian origin and that the hookah is definately of Iranian origin. Hazratleri (talk) 02:05, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Serial Number 54129 Hi, thanks for this information and sorry if i’m answering so late here. You seem not well informed about this case, actually there is one user (Viaros17) who is edit warring with two others (chaldean and me), and you came here to notify me but i have not seen any notification from you on Viaros’ talk page, this seems quite unfair.—>Farawahar (talk) 16:06, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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