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Knob Jockey

Your Gay For Deleting Factory: The Musical Woomoobs57 09:40, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Plastic pressure pipe systems

hi i'm trying to create a quality page. i'm new to wikipedia but i'm trying to work within the pillars of the community. the edits that you perfomed cut accross some edits that i was in the middle of. can u cut me some slack and just let me know of any improvements that could be made.

..........davidacarr

fumbling around

I fumbled around to get to our discussion page from the night before, but somehow couldn't find it. How did I get there? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leslie Brown (talk • contribs) 03:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Page got too full. Time to archive. It's actually in Archive5 in the list above. Fan-1967 03:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm in the dark ...

Is there anyway to continue the discussion from last night? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leslie Brown (talk • contribs) 03:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:

1. Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or
2. With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window.

This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.

Thank you. Otherwise that stubid bot comes along behind you after every edit and adds that unsigned tag to identify you.

Realistically, if it's about your article, I think the ship has sailed. Even with the autobio and vanity aspects gone from the article, I don't think you could sell the notability. Fan-1967 03:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

test

test

Test? Looks like you got logged out. This showed as from an anonymous IP address. Fan-1967 04:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Not necessarily

I don't know ... may take a different approach to it at some point ... The necessary notability will come when it's time. In fact, I really am interested in contributing articles that aren't about me. I just love writing and in broadcasting full-time, it's not something I get to indulge. I read Wikipedia all the time on just about every subject imaginable and more than once I have found outright mistakes, half-truths and discrepancies that I would LOVE to correct, but not sure how to go about it. Your thoughts....

And, as an after-thought, you wrote last night that in the U.S.,there's LA, NY, Chicago ... then, everywhere else.

Don't you think that's a bit ... starchy of you??? I'll rephrase what I wrote last night in saying that there are three pop-culture, iconic U-S television shows that to this day hold an international audience: Baywatch, Dynasty and Dallas. New York has its own song, Chicago has its own Broadway production ... LA is, well LA ... But, Dallas?

To this day, Japanese tourists walk up to me whenever I have to cover a story at South Fork and ask, "Who shot JR?" And, they laugh and laugh. I just laugh with them.

But, what are they saying about Chi town? The windy city? Nothing, my friend. Not a thing.S

As much as I love Wrigley field, Lake Michigan and the Sears Tower, the folks from over the pond are coming to see South Fork, baby.

kpb —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.184.163.74 (talk) 04:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Somoene mentioned "who shot J.R" a few months ago in my office. Three of us in our forties all knew it. A younger woman in her thirties thought it sounded familiar. The 25-year-old guy drew a total blank. The show's been off the air for 20 years. Aside from that and the Cowboys, I don't think that Dallas is on most people's radar. I think most people would not guess that DFW is 4th largest. I suspect most people would guess Philly or Boston, but then the media tends to notice the coasts.

As for Chicago, people mainly just know it for its size, and maybe the sports teams. The local gods here are still Michael Jordan and Da Coach. Fan-1967 04:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

issues

Laptop had issues. So sorry!

Google Karisa Brunken. Maybe. I dunno. Nah, go ahead. Knock your lights out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.184.163.74 (talk) 04:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Logged in

It's what I am. So, as for the article, eh??? Take the damn thing out. It's really not a big deal. My time will come. And, when it does, I won't have to write the article.

Then, tell me again what I can do to become a legitimate contributor.

By the way, if you googled Karisa Brunken and came up with a lot of Rush Limbaugh-esque garbage? Please disregard. It was a phase. An unfortunate phase best forgotten. I have regained my sanity and have seen the error of my ways.

Thanks,

kpb —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leslie Brown (talk • contribs) 04:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

It's not on here

In the U-S, yes, it's off the radar for people younger than, say 30. But, with television in many countries still in its infancy, Dallas is still big. Go to South Fork any day of the week, and it's covered with tourists. COVERED.

And, when people think about football here, they are thinking about the Dallas Cowboys ... the Bears? Uh-uh. Nope. Sorry.

And, anyone who has ever traveled through the U.S. has probably stopped at D/FW airport and believe me, they have plenty of reason to bitch about it. It's a miserable airport. Not connecting-flight friendly in the least. But, I digress. And, for that matter, when people think of the U.S., they think of Texas. More for the legend than the reality, but still. My friend, you have been in Chicago wayyyy tooooo longggggg.

BTW ... I love Chicago and I would live there in a half a heartbeat. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leslie Brown (talk • contribs) 04:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

I've been here six years, actually. Lived various other places. Realistically, I don't think the Cowboys are as iconic as they once were, when Landry was alive.

Most people don't plan their contributions. They find articles that need copyedits (a lot have good content but are horribly written). Or they see a gap in the coverage that needs filled in. On some article talk pages you'll see notes about a wikiproject where people get together to weork on aricles about a certain subject, whether it's Texas, or butterflies, or madrigal singing. Fan-1967 04:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Creds

I don't know if you need it for would-be legitimate contributors, but I actually have a verifiable cred here and there.

I'm a 2001 graduate of the University of Texas at Arlington with a bachelor of arts degree in political science (the name on my diploma is Karisa Lyn Phillips Brunken) and I have worked in this stinking news business for more than half my life. It's hard to believe. In fact, you can click on www.krld.com, look under staff and find my name and my stinking bio there, for what it's worth. Enjoy!

"Leslie Brown" a.d.a Kris Brunken

Nah, we don't ask for any creds at all. One of our admins is a 14-year-old junior high kid, believe it or not. Good contributor, too. If people don't like your writing, they'll revert it mercilessly. Fan-1967 04:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

articles

I was reading an article on Duran Duran just for kicks. I was a big fan when I was 13. And, I read every article that came out in the teen rags ... Anyway, in the DD article, I kid you not, someone plagarized one of the articles from "Smash Hits" magazine from 22 years ago. It was incredible. I remember the quote from that far back. It was, in a word, lame.

And, the article I was reading the other day on Johnny Mathis -- it notes his personal life where he's supposedly been the defendant in paternity suits hither and dither. Maybe so, but what the article failed to mention is that in 1982, he openly admitted he's homosexual. If someone is going to write an article, I think full disclosure (without being gratuitous) is necessary. Or, just don't mention it at all. Your thoughts.

KPB —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leslie Brown (talk • contribs) 04:38, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

As long as you can cite everything. Wikipedia:Reliable Sources and Wikipedia:Verifiability are the two gospels here. Go for it. If you get into a disagreement with someone, you try to hash it out on the article Talk page. Fan-1967 04:40, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm learning

how to get back to discussion we were having ... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leslie Brown (talk • contribs) 04:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

tutorial

Is there a tutorial on how to navigate on Wikipedia?

lb —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leslie Brown (talk • contribs) 04:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Google

Did you google "Karisa Brunken"? I used to work for a company in Chicago ... Naperville, to be exact. Flew out there. A lot.

kpb —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leslie Brown (talk • contribs) 04:59, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

:)

Coolness! Thank you all very muchly.--Leslie Brown 05:25, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Famous

Alrighty - thanks for the feedback. It was more of a testing the waters as to how this site works. I understand the need for accuracy when reporting on subjects and will take your recommendations in to account in the future. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Djessellis (talk • contribs) 11:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Stefan Faison, again

Thought you might find this intersting. Here is my reply. --Fritz S. (Talk) 11:19, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I totally agree with you. --Fritz S. (Talk) 17:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I am not trying to advetise. Nor is the link dead. I am trying to work on it. Please atempt some patience with me—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Seskia (talk • contribs).

The moon is in the seventh house....

...and Jupiter in Sagittarius is gone. Thanks, NawlinWiki 20:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

...then peace will guide the planets, and love will steer the stars. Thanks. Fan-1967 20:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

owen wilson

hey for some reason when entered owen wilson, some page about a school came up...whats wrong

Thanks!

Thank you for reverting the vandalism on my talk page. Always appreciated! Best, Hagerman^(talk) 01:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Knuckle death clan

I am not the creator of this article, I proposed it for deletion. Why are you putting the message on my talk page?? -- Dskluz 23:17, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

CSD templates

Please see Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#CSD templates - we need to decide if they have headings or not - to consistent. Lethaniol 14:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

My thought exactly. Fan-1967 14:51, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense?

I think it is unfair to say I added nonsense - I have already received emails from fellow Wotton fans stating their enjoyment of my Wikipedia updates. Please put them back on. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ronnierosenthal (talk • contribs) 15:53, 15 December 2006 (UTC).

I would have thought you realised I did not edit Kevin Pressman - please check edits properly in the future.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronnierosenthal (talk • contribs)

Wotton and Pressman

No Sir, you misunderstand me. I added the part on Kevin Pressman as I thought Michael Wotton was Kevin Pressman. I'm Spanish, so you must forgive me not understanding the ways of English people. Are you saying Michael Wotton isn't Kevin Pressman?

Oliver Carizzo Condé

As you'll see, I did not add the paragraph on Michael Wotton to Kevin Pressman's page, I merely added a link so people could find out more about Mr Wotton. I thought that made sense in the Wikipedia universe. I also don't see how you can be in the esteemed position of declaring people nobodies. How have you come to this assumption? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ronnierosenthal (talk • contribs) 16:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC).

The fact that he's a nobody. No significant press coverage. If someone's only claim to fame is that some people think he looks like someone, that's as nobodyish as you can get. Please read Wikipedia:Notability (people). As for the info on Pressman, it was added by an anonymous IP six minutes before you added the link. Either (a) the IP was you or (b) by a million-to-one coincidence you found it within six minutes of it being put in. I don't believe in million-to-one coincidences. Fan-1967 16:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I was interested to see the page for Michael Wotton pop up - I played football against him in Spain twice, once during my time representing the Barcelona Supporters Club and once when playing for the FC Girona under 19 side. Could you let me know where it has gone? I edited the Kevin Pressman page as I remembered thinking how much Michael Wotton reminded me of him (my grandfather is English and follows Sheffield Wednesday), and all the players on the opposition team called him 'Kevin'.

Yours sincerely

Oliver Carizzo Condé—Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.168.107.2 (talk • contribs)

Gee, another million-to-one coincidence. Nice try, Ronnie. Fan-1967 16:24, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

That is not me but another Wotton fan. I promise. I know him though, he's in the same society.

Nobody?!

I don't even know what an IP is. But it wasn't me, nor was it a coincidence. You see your close-mindedness has let you down. It was another fan of Wotton! There are many of us who appreciate Mr Wotton and I think we should be heard. It appears you may be a little jealous of the love for Mr Wotton. Looking like people is not his only claim to fame. He is also a great goalkeeper amongst other things. How do you know his press coverage is not significant if you live in Chicago? Admittedly his profile does not stretch to the USA (yet) but he is somewhat of a local celebrity. Please put the page back up.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronnierosenthal (talk • contribs)

Certainly, as soon as you can demonstrate that he meets the standards at Wikipedia:Notability (people). If he's such a big celebrity, you should have no problem proving that he "has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works." We do have rules, and number one is that all content must be Verifiable from Reliable Sources. So, as soon as you can come up with the weblink citations that meet those standards, we'll be glad to have an article on him. Fan-1967 16:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

What if it's all in local newspapers and magazines?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronnierosenthal (talk • contribs)

These days every significant paper and magazine is on the web. Besides, you claimed he enjoys massive internet popularity, so there should be huge numbers of web references.

Bottom line: If we can't verify it, we don't print it. Absolute #1 unbreakable rule. Fan-1967 16:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

No Sir, you misunderstand me. I added the part on Kevin Pressman as I thought Michael Wotton was Kevin Pressman. I'm Spanish, so you must forgive me not understanding the ways of English people. Are you saying Michael Wotton isn't Kevin Pressman?

Oliver Carizzo Condé—Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.168.107.2 (talk • contribs)

Cute. Fan-1967 16:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Are you essentially saying then that the spoken word is no longer a valid medium of communication? It was good enough for Homer, Plato, Beowulf and Aeschylus, so why not Wikipedia?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.168.107.2 (talk • contribs)

Because attempted hoaxes are routine here. We have no choice but to require external, independent verification. Fan-1967 17:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I hope you now realise there are two of us who have an issue with the removal of Michael Wotton. I just wrote an article on Mr Wotton which was full of citations and it was deleted instantly. That is wrong, and shows people abusing their power. This is hardly the encyclopedia YOU edit. Is http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2226324418&ref=nf not good enough???—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronnierosenthal (talk • contribs)

Two people, if in fact there are two, does not establish notability. I never saw your latest version, and I did not delete it, so I have no idea what was in it. I will note, however, that if you think a Facebook entry is worth something, you clearly did not read Wikipedia:Reliable Sources. Fan-1967 17:52, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

It's more than a facebook entry - it's a fricking appreciation society! A nobody could never have an appreciation society. 217.155.190.213 09:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Bubbajoe98

pleas dont give me a hard time because you are jealous of my youth—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubbajoe98 (talk • contribs)

How could anyone be jealous of a disgusting piece of filth like you? What kind of sewer did you crawl out of? Fan-1967 19:34, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

PLEASE SPARE ME PLEAS ILL DO ANYTHING DO U WANT MONEY I HAVE PLEAS DONT DELETE MY PAGE

External beauty is not what counts, it's whats on the inside ;) --208.63.46.9 14:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Craig Alexander Glennie

Hey, thanks for fixing the header on that Afd...it's been a while since I last sent an article to Afd, and I totally overlooked the new habit of adding the la template to the header (which is pretty useful, by the way). Was just about to fix it when I realized you had already done so :) -- Ferkelparade π 20:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

hey

I'm bored. Wanna talk? Lazylaces-Helping Wikipedians since.. um.. for almost a year! Lazylaces (talk • contribs 22:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Stephanie Wang

Thanks for the suggestion Subwayguy 23:17, 15 December 2006 (UTC) EDIT: nevermind, now I see the message at the top Subwayguy 23:17, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

:-)

StoptheDatabaseState has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

i changed the forum

i made some improvements, thank you for leaving it up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.194.169.28 (talk) 16:21, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

CLiDE

Do not message me again. Thanks.—Preceding unsigned comment added by CLiDE (talk • contribs)

Adminship

Fan-1967, I think you would be a good administrator here on the English Wikipedia. Are you interested? —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-12-17 21:09Z

I'd second the nomination. Scalene^{•UserPage•Talk•Contributions•Biography•Є•} 01:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

i did not create this article.

Don't Delete Dean Johnston

I am a student at Colby College. I will provide a citation momentarily. Please remove the speedy deletion tag. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Adammarvin (talk • contribs) 05:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

I guess this sort of things are the only sort of pleasures you get in life.

Merry Christmas! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DanteTagle (talk • contribs) 15:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

Smile

Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

• Gee, first you accuse me of making joke edits, then you smile at me. What's a guy to think? ;-) --Fan-1967 16:39, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

• • We are all here to be happy and enjoy ourselves - you can as well! Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 21:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Kicking222

Thanks for your support. That's one. User:Zoe|(talk) 19:32, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

so sorry

so sorry for the mistake. i didnt notice i'm writing it on the wrong place.do help me for future stuff.Senyuman

hey

he did that shit to me first i was just retaliating—Preceding unsigned comment added by Arel13 (talk • contribs)

you know what i don't like you so u need to knock off the crap—Preceding unsigned comment added by Arel13 (talk • contribs)

Just what we need, more little children playing games. Fan-1967 17:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

dude shut up

HOW AN THE HELL IS SAYING I DON'T LIKE HIM AN ATTACK —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Arel13 (talk • contribs) 17:46, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

YOU KNOW WHAT...... YOUR RIGHT I AM SORRY FOR WRITING SHIT SORRY FOR THE INCONVIENCE I CAUSED—Preceding unsigned comment added by Arel13 (talk • contribs)

Andyespindola

you suck balls—Preceding unsigned comment added by Andyespindola (talk • contribs)

What?

Fuck u!Why r u saying my things are nonsense? everything i rote was completely true.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Andyespindola (talk • contribs)

Hmm, I'm sensing some tension... Take a chill pill, there is no need to go around so pissed off and spwing your crap on other people pages.--Cadet Hastings 14:50, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Matt Coleman, from North Bay, Ontario

You have herpes—Preceding unsigned comment added by Coleman251 (talk • contribs)

Day Gift

I am sorry to inconvienince you in any way, the tradition is an actual tradition but I have been unable to find any resources to back that up. It was in no way ment to be an act of vandilism. I am fine with Day Gift being deleted. Thanks! Orin LincolnÆ 17:24, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Bio templates

In response to your post On articles like Mike grunerud, maybe you might want to wait a bit before creating Talk pages with the bio template? I mean, when the article consists of "So-and-so is a 14-year-old that nobody's ever heard of," the article's not likely to be around long, and adding the Talk page is one more page an admin has to delete. Just a thought. Fan-1967 18:25, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I checked my contribution list and it does not indicate that I made any posts on Mike grunerud or Talk:Mike_grunerud. Also, I thought that the talk page and history pages were deleted with the article page is deleted and didn't realize that I was creating extra work. I'll delay tagging the talk page to give the article page a chance to first be tagged with a speedy delete. Also, I'll skip those tagged with a speedy delete where further directions on the article talk page probably won't result in saving the article. -- Jreferee 18:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

You can't see your contribution because I've already deleted it. I deleted four or five of these talk pages. I also moved one, as you tagged a talk page for an uncapitalized name and it didn't get moved to the proper title with the main article. It's great that you're doing this, but slow down a bit and make sure that the article's gonna last more than a few minutes.  ;) -- Merope 18:50, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Halo 3

I did not vandalize the page, please look carefully and notify the other guy.

My articles

Ok. Thats fine. I just wanted it to become known. Do you have any suggestions on how to advertise it? I think it is really good writing and I'm not saying that because I wrote it. Please tell me what you think.

Thanks

-Federal Agent Clay Dial —Preceding unsigned comment added by Claytheway2 (talk • contribs)

My articles

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Well does posting it ona website count? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Claytheway2 (talk • contribs)

My Articles

So thats a no?

-Federal Agent, Clay Dial —Preceding unsigned comment added by Claytheway2 (talk • contribs)

My Articles

Ok that answers my question. Actually I am not on here to post or anything. I recived calls that Wikipedia was bad. Sorry but information is classified. I was just checking you guys out. You seem to be doing a great job.

-Federal Agent Clay Dial—Preceding unsigned comment added by Claytheway2 (talk • contribs)

My articles

no that was because i was pissed. but I like you. your the kind of person that really knows his stuff.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Claytheway2 (talk • contribs)

Whereas I'm inclined to suspect you are, in fact, a 15-year-old who's written some really bad fiction based on watching too many episodes of 24. Fan-1967 20:35, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

That's what you think huh? We'll see.

Ok...so how many episodes have you watched? See, you're like the rest of them. All these people think they can conclude things but in reality they are only concluding about themselves.

Federal Agents

I can see that you're not buying the Federal Agent thing. But thats ok because I dont really care. Oh it's not my agency anyways. Its a brach of the C.I.A.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Claytheway2 (talk • contribs)

Lets face it dude....

...you have no idea..—Preceding unsigned comment added by Claytheway2 (talk • contribs)

You don't think we've seen thousands of kids like you before? Fan-1967 20:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Kids? Really? and how do you proove that information?

No adult would write fiction this bad and derivative? Fan-1967 20:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Who are you to say that this is bad fiction? As for originality, well look at it this way: how many things have you seen, in your dark computer room where you spend all your time, that were based on other things and still made millions? Tell me that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every kid creating nonsense articles here sooner or later falls back on lame insults. You know, I've only known you a few minutes, yet already I'm tired of you. Fan-1967 20:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

You, my faggot of a friend, do not know me. This has happened to me before. Some asshole from Wikipedia decides that he'll cut me down and thinks he's the coolest guy in the world.

In other words, you've posted garbage here before, and it was deleted then, too. Not surprising. Fan-1967 20:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah it was deleted and I wasn't surprised. Here's the thing though, all you guys do is sit around and delete. Yeah, thats what I would just love to do. You get enjoyment by telling people that their stuff sucks.

People like you often assume that, but actually what we get enjoyment out of is protecting the project. If it gets filled up with inappropriate material, people will stop trusting it, and stop using it, and it will die. Fan-1967 21:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Now you're saying it was inappropriate. Did you know that schools are not using Wikipedia anymore? Do you know why? Of course you do. Because people can edit it. It deserves to die.

Of course!

I knew that. I just wanted to see how you would react. What I don't see here is how changing my own pages is vadilism

They're not your pages. They're Wikipedia's, and subject to Wikipedia's rules. Want your own pages? Get your own server. Fan-1967 20:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I wrote them. But I see where you're coming from. Good point.

Trolled

DING DING DING! You've won! What an idiot. You think I'm trolling you?

Sorry

Dude look, you were right about some things. I am a teen who loves 24. I really dont think it is your place to critisize my fictional story. I am truly sorry for all the trouble. No hard feelings?

Thanks --Claytheway2 22:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Keep working on your stories. Everyone starts somewhere. Just don't post it here until after someone else publishes it. Fan-1967 22:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah thanks. I am currently working on the story and I am making it more my own rather that FOX's. If you would like to have a copy once it's done I can send it to you or something. --Claytheway2 22:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Shoup & Kozlowski

sorry, i'm a total n00b here. it's kind of a work in progress; just have to flesh it out a bit. cheers, Gary Corners 22:24, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I apologize

It's my brother who does this.

User page revert

Thanks very much, now you see it, now you don't! Budgiekiller 14:46, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Noticed how considerate I was, that I even bumped your vandalism count when I reverted? Fan-1967 14:47, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't have expecting anything less of you! Cheers! Budgiekiller 14:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

tags

hi - i'm new to wikipedia, and still sifting through the help pages. why do these autobiography clips keep popping up? isn't that only if the person writes it themselves? i'm a fan of the artist - so it would be a biography, wouldn't it? help please. i also don't know how to put it under a category?

heath —Preceding unsigned comment added by Echochernik (talk • contribs)

ah, okay!

I get what you're looking for! I put the info on the printed article that i have.... is that correct? this is taking some time to learn the ins and outs of! i added relevant links back and forth too. heath —Preceding unsigned comment added by Echochernik (talk • contribs)

Dispute Tag

Hi! I don't understand what i need to change to remove the dispute tag... what part is not neutral? I changed a few of the words to make it even more neutral...but it's 'just the facts, ma'am'...that's right, correct? if there's something thats not factual or neutral - plz point it out or edit it - so that we can take that tag off and declare it neutral.
thx
heath —Preceding unsigned comment added by Echochernik (talk • contribs) 11:50, December 21, 2006

aspdotnetstorefront.com page

Hello,

In regards to my page could you please help me make it better instead instantly sending it to the deletion committee? I'm new to Wikipedia and I'll probably need some assistance getting the page to Wikipedia standards.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks and have a nice Holiday.

Andy

Deletion

why are my pages still there? arent they supposed to be deleted already? --Claytheway2 17:57, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Articles for Deletion discussions normally run five days. Fan-1967 17:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

oh yeah. i forgot. its just kinda taunting for them to be just sitting there. --Claytheway2 18:02, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

As the author, you can request their speedy deletion. Just edit each article and add {{db-author}} at the top (above the AFD notice). An admin can delete them whenever someone gets around to it. Should be gone by the end of the day. Fan-1967 18:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

ok. what does the expression "per nom" mean? I saw it on the AFD.--Claytheway2 18:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

It's short for "I agree with the statements in the nomination". Fan-1967 18:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh ok that makes sense. You have any suggestions on what to do on Wiki? I thought of making my own stuff but we both know how that turned out. Wiki pretty much covers everything I can think of.--Claytheway2 18:12, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Many people start by just clicking on the "Random article" link, and start getting ideas that way. Sometimes it's as simple as fixing spelling or grammar, or seeing something that needs expanding. Fan-1967 18:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I was just thinking and I was wondering what exactly do you do? Do you work for Wiki? If not, how can I become what you are? The people who examine and "protect the project".--Claytheway2 18:17, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

It starts with being here awhile. You have to spend some time and get to know the standards and procedures. Fan-1967 18:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok. What do I do once that happens? One more question, how do I add user boxes?--Claytheway2 18:26, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Once you've been around for awhile, you pick it up. As for userboxes, haven't dealt with them much myself. Might try WP:USERBOX for info. Fan-1967 18:27, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Trevorthemachoman

go to hell u asshole im am a person a future WWE hall of famer—Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevorthemachoman (talk • contribs)

St. Louis Children's Hospital

Please cite where I cannot delete comments on my own UserTalk. Thanks.

That isn't official policy. That's just an explanation. I'm looking for policy since it's supposedly being used against my contributions.

Speaking of policy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest

While it does say to avoid conflict of interest, I have not infringed on any of these three accounts: Self-promotion

Conflict of interest often presents itself in the form of self-promotion, including advertising links, personal website links in articles, personal or semi-personal photos, or any other material that appears to promote the private or commercial interests of the editor adding the material, or of his associates.

Examples of these types of material include:

  1. Links that appear to promote products by pointing to obscure or not particularly relevant commercial sites (commercial links).
  2. Links that appear to promote otherwise obscure individuals by pointing to their personal pages
  3. Biographical material that does not significantly add to the clarity or quality of the article.

All links were relevant and to information, not services. Nothing was to a personal or unreputable page, nor was any of it biographical.—Preceding unsigned comment added by St. Louis Children's Hospital (talk • contribs)

A point which is quite irrelevant. Personal vs. business self-promotion is a meaningless distinction. Clearly, your edits are not in any way intended to benefit wikipedia, but are for the purposes of advertising. Should Lung transplantation contain a link from every single hospital that performs them? No. Should it contain a link to just one? No. Is your hospital somehow unique in performing them? No. Inappropriate link, repeated dozens of times.

We know spam when we see it. We see it. Fan-1967 18:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately you are incorrect. SLCH is the largest and most active hospital in the world for pediatric lung transplants. Are you really going to withhold information from patients and families? If nothing else, it would have been more appropriate to create a list of those facilities that perform these procedures. That's well within your bounds and duties, and you owe it to patients who come to Wikipedia for information.—Preceding unsigned comment added by St. Louis Children's Hospital (talk • contribs)

Hmmm... thirty seconds of searching found at least one hospital that performed more than you did in 2005. Certainly there are many in the same range. Nope. You're just a spammer.Fan-1967 19:14, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

And based on the accumulation of comments on your Talk page, it appears the opinion's pretty unanimous. Fan-1967 19:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I think that could be a record number of warnings in such a short space of time... Budgiekiller 19:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

So it's advantageous to create multiple accounts and sporadically make links? You and I would both agree that's inappropriate. But so is leaving a link with the same relevance as mine. I would suggest taking more time to look over each link, then, or educating yourself on the natured of certain institutions. No offense intended, of course.—Preceding unsigned comment added by St. Louis Children's Hospital (talk • contribs)

None taken. The simple fact is that many of these articles have been edited repeatedly by editors with extensive knowledge in these areas. None have ever felt that the articles needed to specifically single out your institution. The only person who feels that way is an employee of that institution, who may not be the most objective judge.

As for creating multiple accounts, it is an unfortunate fact that the way to get away with linkspamming is to stay under the radar. Fan-1967 19:36, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

So, clarification..

I did post articles straight to information, but they were taken down. I assume without the person actually looking at it?

Here's an example: information: http://www.slch.org/tabid/88/itemid/1386/Lung-Transplantation.aspx ; program: http://www.slch.org/tabid/89/itemid/200/Lung-Transplant-Program.aspx

Both were taken down by ImmortalGoddezz. Was the first link, as you said since it was information and can be accepted, taken down unnecessarily? If so, that's fine. I can update each of those pages with information regarding the procedure instead of the Center. Not a problem at all.

Explain that, please.

Most of the links that I checked had no medical information at all, like the cystic fibrosis page. When you're doing the same thing dozens of times, realistically you're going to stop checking individual pages. I noticed in the second link you posted, the medical information is at the bottom, after the ad, easy to miss if you don't scroll down. And, the big question: Is there medical information in those links that isn't already available in the article and existing links? Fan-1967 19:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

RE: serene

Don't worry, I'm serene, it's just I have a headache from this guy and there's so many!!!!! I'm good. Keepingmy cool. *taking long, calming breath* Help would be appreciated. Cheers! —¡Randfan!^{Sign here?} 20:44, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

No thanks :P

Commanderwingpop

Hi. You userfied this page. However, it was a blatant personal attack page. Please simply mark these things for deletion. Thanks. --Doc^g 21:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

8539

why is my page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juicy_fruit_2 being considered for deletion?

its a page for a popular fan forum on the web. please help.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlewaxfan (talk • contribs)

The simple answer is that there are hundreds of thousands of forums. Wikipedia is not a web directory, and does not list all of them. Our standards are at Wikipedia:Notability (web) but basically, a fan forum for one particular actress comes nowhere close.

Notable forums have tens of thousands of members, and hundreds of thousands or millions of posts. Fan-1967 21:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

69.140.68.72

Well, I added cited, verifiable facts to the bigfoot "article" (a charter member of ISZ and funder of the Six Rivers expedition), but you "experts" on everything wouldn't know anything but to gainsay what respected scientists have to say on this issue or that. All you know is deprecation and offhand dismissal of everything that lies beyond you.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.68.72 (talk • contribs)

I'm sorry, in trying to look through your history, between the insults, personal opinions and absolute nonsense about making salad with a Malay torture boot, I may have missed the well-cited encyclopedic edits. Fan-1967 21:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Even edits that I have effected to straight scientific or mathematical articles--trying to clear up a conceptual muddle, perhaps, in a putatively useful article that begins on a dark gray note and steadily becomes ever more obscure--someone undoes it. What a dreadful frustration. Why can you not implement some sort of hierarchy whereby people are vetted to edit articles within a given subset of categories, and attendantly classify individual articles as belonging to one or more categories?

I believe I shall post an incisively pejorative and acerbic review of Wikipedia on my Web site, and there I shall derogate you and your ilk by name--if you have the guts to identify yourself, that is, rather than go by some foolishly themed handle of "Bilbo Baggins" sort. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.68.72 (talk • contribs)

Seems somewhat ironic coming from an editor who edits anonymously! Budgiekiller 22:12, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Many people have posted such reviews. Feel free. As for "vetting" editors, it goes against everything the project stands for. You clearly consider yourself an expert, so much so that you feel free to post pejorative and derogatory descriptions of others as if they were facts. There are no circumstances under which I can imagine vetting anyone to post such material. Fan-1967 22:16, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Wonderful

Wonderful. I do truly appreciate your help. St. Louis Children's Hospital 22:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

hey

how are you

wha da rass

stop that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JM2486 (talk • contribs) 06:02, 22 December 2006 (UTC).

Spyann

I'm really sorry - I honestly have no idea what happened. I got on wikipedia just to look at the Dakota Fanning article - I typed her name into the search box, and it came up with a bio that says some really awful things about her and her family - so I was just trying to report it in case someone had vandalized the page. Now, it seems to have reverted back to the original article. I wasn't trying to be rude or funny.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Spyann (talk • contribs)

71.228.80.209

hi—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.228.80.209 (talk • contribs)

From the version I saw

Here is a copied portion from the bio that I originally saw only less than an hour ago:

Biography

Early career

Fanning was born in Conyers, Georgia as a three-eyed pie monster, to Steven Fanning (a former rapist who now works as a hobo in Los Angeles) and Joy Fanning, who played tennis professionally. Her mother had wanted to name her "Hannah" and her father wanted to name her "Dakota"; she has always used Dakota among her friends and family. She has a sister, Elle, who is now also an actress. Fanning is of half German descent, and her last name is of Irish origin.[2] She is a Baptist, having grown up in the Southern Baptist Convention.[3]

Later on in her life, she got massive surgery to make her not a three-eyed pie monster. Fanning then began acting at the age of five after appearing with legendary musician Ray Charles in a television commercial for the Georgia State Lottery[4] and being chosen for a Tide commercial. Her first significant acting job was a guest-starring role in the NBC prime-time drama, ER, which remains one of her favorite roles ("I played a car accident victim who has leukemia. I got to wear a neck brace and nose tubes for the two days I worked.")[5]

Fanning subsequently had several guest roles on established television series, including CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Friends, The Practice, Spin City and Malcolm in the Middle. She also portrayed the title characters of Ally McBeal and The Ellen Show as young girls. In 2001, Fanning was chosen to star opposite Sean Penn in I Am Sam, the story of a mentally impaired man who fights for the custody of his daughter (played by Fanning). This role made Fanning the youngest person (in 2002, at age eight) ever to be nominated for a Screen Actors Guild Award, for her supporting performance. When she won the Best Young Actor/Actress award from the Broadcast Film Critics Association for the film, she was too short to reach the microphone; presenter Orlando Bloom held her up for the duration of her acceptance speech (which turned out to be quite long). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.37.172.131 (talk) 16:36, 22 December 2006 (UTC).

The edit history is retained on all articles, and is easily viewable. The Dakota Fanning article has no such text now, and has not been updated in two days. Fan-1967 16:42, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Here is the copied link from my browser's history. I accessed this page today - it is no longer available through the Wikipedia search, but you can still reach it by copying and pasting the link. I can see for myself that the history shows no updates within the last two days - that does not mean that someone isn't redirecting the site to a false page. I'm not sure - I'm just trying to report something that seems quite wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dakota_Fanning&oldid=95376571

Spyann 17:17, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dakota_Fanning&oldid=95376571

In response

Which is precisely why it is so weird that I would be directed to that page today. A glitch in the server, maybe.

Spyann 17:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

noteing "vandilism" FUCKING NINJAS

i was asking for the page to be locked once it was delielted my edit was in good will. Cocoaguy (Talk)| (Edits) 16:53, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

so the page can never be used agan like once the page is delielted it lock it so it could never be used agan. Cocoaguy (Talk)| (Edits) 16:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

OK i understand but i am not a vandel please do not call me a vandel the edit was in good will. Cocoaguy (Talk)| (Edits) 17:01, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

My USB Cable Is Awesome

Hey! I was showing the weaknesses of the wikipedia system. stuff like that can be made to contain anything. Sorry about that! Bye. btw, you can delete the article Lego1496 20:08, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

The article was caught by two editors within 30 seconds. The weakness is that we constantly have to clean up stuff like this. Fan-1967 20:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I was born in 67

May Day to be exact. How are things in Roger's park, by the way (my old residence)? I've seen you around, thought I would finally say hi. NinaEliza (talk • contribs • count • logs • email) 23:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

why?

why did you delete my article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ReddMOB (talk • contribs)

Because it was an attack page. All four times. Bye. Fan-1967 01:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

New users

I was attempting to leave a welcome and a message at Aliakbar Kiani's talk page, but ran into an edit conflict with you, so you won. May I make a couple of suggestions? Rather than the welcome message you're using, how about using {{subst:welcomeg}}, which produces a much more attractive welcome message, with tons of links. I also hope you would tone down your warning message a bit too. If I got something likethe warning you left, I'd feel very bitten. Assuming good faith, I believe most bios are created by people who are new and unaware of Wikipedia's user page feature, and would not trouble articlespace with their bios if they knew any better. So I try to use a more gentle message, with a link to their (empty) userspace. This is my boilerplate: "If you want to include information about yourself on Wikipedia, the best place to do it is on your user page, which can be found [[User:Username here|here]]. Otherwise it will likely be deleted. On your user page, though, you are free to share as much or as little as you want about yourself. Please feel free to contact me on my talk page if you have any questions. ~~~~" Just a thought. Always your personal call, of course. Denni ^talk 01:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

You're definitely right about the length of {{welcomeg}} - that is certainly its major drawback. I most often use it in combination with another message, so I do have concerns about whether they get to the second message. But gosh, it's just so darn pretty! Okay, I've never used the userfy tag before, and now I know why. I'll take it to template discussion and see if it can't be toned down a bit there. Thanks! Denni ^talk 01:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Winterval(s)!!!! (12-22-06)

Oh, the weather outside is frightful!... But I hope wherever you you are, that it's warm and delightful! : ) —Randfan!!

Dear Fan-1967/Archive6, I wish you a very, very merry Winterval! And since I don't know which you celebrate, I hope you have/had/will have a very happy Holiday!. Hope you and your family have a magnificent day, or series of days! You might wanna install the "SaucyMillionaire" font to see this correctly. Cheers, mate!:) —Randfan!!

God (or your deity/deities) bless you and your family! —¡Randfan!^{Sign here?} 02:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

-Note:I was planning to hand these out on the 22 of Dec. Happy holidays —¡Randfan!^{Sign here?} 23:32, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for letting me know about the signature thing.

Christian Miles

The page had quite a bit of content (biography, image, and cited sources) a week ago, it was deleted unfairly. I thought the hangon tag was the right thing to do.

Oswaldo Koch

Hello,

Imagine suffering a nearly fatal mountain biking accident. You've fractured your neck and after enduring a painful head brace and without exercising for 1 year, you develop an amazing fitness condition - a beautiful, flexible, fast and strong body in just 3 months of training. Oswaldo has done just that. He became an expert in core muscle development while healing a painful back injury that put him at risk of becoming a paraplegic.

Oswaldo Koch now the president of OK Initiatives, Inc. and leading expert in core muscle training.

Thanks for your comments,

Nietopolo

Many opeople have suffered accidents. Doesn't mean they deserve articles. Fan-1967 23:35, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

oswaldo koch

Oswaldo Koch is leading expert in core muscle trining. His story and fitness work is inspirational for the many people strugling with back pain and neck problems. He has help thousands of people from all over the world to achieve and sustain optimal fitness.

Imagine suffering a nearly fatal mountain biking accident. You've fractured your neck and after enduring a painful head brace and without exercising for 1 year, you develop an amazing fitness condition - a beautiful, flexible, fast and strong body in just 3 months of training. Oswaldo has done just that. He became an expert in core muscle development while healing a painful back injury that put him at risk of becoming a paraplegic.

Please let me know what can I do to improve this article.

Thank you,

Nietopolo

Oswaldo Koch

Well done. Your comments are very useful. I will find the reference ASAP! Thanks Nietopolo

suck my balls you mother fucking arse wipe

Complaint

making a complaint against you for harassment, maybe you should be removed from Wikipedia.

Maria Rimmer

I advise you contact administrators. The author of the article is now impersonating you, and trying to make it seem that you wrote an offensive line, directed at them. J Milburn 02:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Admins aren't that stupid. The edit history is quite clear. Fan-1967 02:49, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Firstly, that guy is blocked now, secondly, thanks for clarifying that IP, I was trying to figure that out (you saw that he was blocked by Jimbo?) Mak (talk) 02:59, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, plus someone probably complained. It might even have been oversighted. Oh well, I've blocked the IP 48 hours now, as belonging to a banned user, causing trouble. Cheers, Mak (talk) 03:04, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I requested that the user be blocked at the administrators noticeboard. J Milburn 03:07, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

He's already blocked. Fan-1967 03:12, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

lol

[1] - crz crztalk 17:16, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Cute. In other words, he slapped a hangon tag on it, but never offered anything to support it. Fan-1967 17:18, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Nor could he have. It was pretty transparent. I don't even know why they try. We need bigger warnings on the create-a-page screen. - crz crztalk 17:54, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I've been thinking that it might be nice to have a page that pops up the first time any new editor creates a page, that forces them to scroll through a bunch of standard warnings and click on "I have read and understand these policies" before they can create their first article. Fan-1967 18:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

wel,i didn't try to advertise any thing,it was to give community information for the large number of businessmen struggling with their taxes....any ways never mind..i shall be more careful next time...... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ridwan Gazi (talk • contribs) 20:21, 27 December 2006 (UTC).

Don't be ridiculous. It was advertising for your father's tax business. Fan-1967 20:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Bill Dolphin

I stated the facts. You are ignoring the facts. It is because of people like you that the vast majority of folks who read Wikipedia will never read the facts!

And that, unfortunately, is a fact. If you would like to argue the difference between fact and fuction - you've found the right person.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill Dolphin (talk • contribs)

Yuguwho

what i should do?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Yuguwho (talk • contribs)

Dusty669211

Fan-1967, I realize the Geoterra article appeared to be vandalism, and was thus deleted, but it was not. It was my attempt at creating a Wikipedia in a new language. It made no sense in English, but it was not written in English. Please edit my talk page if you know how to make a new Wikipedia language option.Dusty669211 23:16, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

answered at User talk:Dusty669211. -- Fan-1967 23:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Yuguwho

Please see the following links if they can count for reliable source.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/061030/20061030005865.html

No. It's a press release from OnlineIdols.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/712617/onlineidolscom_a_global_online_stage_debuts/index.html

No. It's another copy of the same press release from OnlineIdols.

http://www.uexpress.com/oncomputers/?uc_full_date=20061210

No. It's a blog, and a trivial mention, one sentence about eight paragraphs down.

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/11/19/084500.php

Another blog.

http://www.oncomp.com/dec06-2.htm

The same blog as at uexpress.com, with the same trivial mention way down in the article.

http://news.bostonherald.com/blogs/onlineLiving/?p=268

Another blog.

If they are not reliable, could you tell me what is a reliable source? and how i can get one? thanks!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Yuguwho (talk • contribs)

Please read Wikipedia:Reliable Sources. Recognized newspapers or news sites, in the news section. Anything that contains "blog" anywhere in the title does not qualify. Fan-1967 23:40, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Cjr121

So can my Couth Article be posted to Wiktionary?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjr121 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for all you do.

I'm so very glad that someone still has the constitution to keep up with the NPP work. Case in point: That woefully NN bio you just tagged. I'm still taking a break from this site, so if you'd like to drop me a holler, feel free to e-mail me. Happy new year! Yours, Lucky 6.9 via 74.62.174.104 00:23, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays and here's a question... why do you always get the good ones? I check your talk page whenever I want a chuckle. --Geniac 14:11, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Just lucky, I guess. Fan-1967 14:18, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Cjr121 16:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC) You are simply UNCOUTH!

Talk:Jim Feist

You might be interested in these edits. I have suggested that it is Not A Good Thing to forge other peoples signatures. User:Zoe|(talk) 17:12, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Not the worst thing I've seen forged over my signature in the last few days. Talk:Maria Rimmer was a lot worse, but that editor's been banned. Fan-1967 17:23, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Ew. User:Zoe|(talk) 17:50, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

There was another editor concerned that an admin would think those were actually my posts. I thought it unlikely. Fan-1967 17:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your assistance with the article Rev. Hooper, which as showed me what I need to do to both get it back up and to make my fathers correct the first time. I will have all the information for both before I post them the first time. Thank you.

AfD/OTRS

Regarding your comment on a recent AfD,[2] we already allow outsiders to affect our content through OTRS and OFFICE actions. I don't think that deleting one article sets a new precedent, as I doubt that other biography subjects would react in the same way as this subject has. The overall health of the project is more important than following procedure. It would be impossible to argue that we're better-off having the article, given all the problems it has caused. -Will Beback · † · 19:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't cause that much of a problem. OFFICE tends to delete articles because we have to (legal issues). We don't have to delete this one, so we shouldn't. Absolutely, positively, we don't want a slightest hint that Daniel Brandt can dictate our content. He would be the first to publicize it and encourage others to try the same. Now that would cause us problems. Fan-1967 19:35, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Brant

On your comments "deleting this article would mean effectively allowing an outsider to dictate content, an absolutely unacceptable precedent" the only issue I would take with this comment is that wikipedia is a free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Anon or regisistered user or admin. No one is an 'outsider' --Brian_{(view my history)}/^{(How am I doing?)} 19:54, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

True. More generically, we should not allow anyone to dictate our content. Fan-1967 19:56, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

• While I agree that telling the project as a whole that 'you will do this or else' is not something we should cater to, we still allow anyone to dictate content by editing, adding, or removing information. This is of course peer reviewed and if the edits are not in good-faith, they are reverted, however the wording did leave a bad image of 'it's us vs. them' --Brian_{(view my history)}/^{(How am I doing?)} 21:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel Brandt (11th nomination)

For precedent, see John Bambenek. I am convinced he copied our article on him to his website then claimed copyvio so that it would get deleted, which is what he wanted. User:Zoe|(talk) 19:55, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Jackie Robinson

Jackie Robinson did indeed win the first ROY award. However, the change I made was to the sentence about his MVP award. Bottom line though, Jack Roosevelt Robinson was a STUD! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Skitzzo (talk • contribs) 20:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC).

Global Cooperative Forum

This is my first day of participation in Wikipedia editing. I am assuming I am typing in a place where we could have a direct discussion of the non-notability issue you raised. Is it so?

Certainly. However, I think the issues raised are insurmountable. Please read What Wikipedia is not. Included there: Wikipedia is not a soapbox, or publisher of original thought. It's not a place to float new ideas, or help to spread new messages. It is only for documenting notable subjects, that already have widespread exposure. This clearly fails. Fan-1967 21:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Trasgender male to female

I want so bad to go through sex reassignment surgery i just can't until that happens because i want to be a woman i keep wishing it and dreaming it being a female makes me happy not just because i want to female clothes but because that's what i feel i ought to be a woman and was hoping i was a biological female, i just feel something went wrong during birth that i out to be boy instead ewe. Lord help me that i some how become a female so that i can be happy ever after with myself i'm aware it's going to cost me money that is why i want my wishes come true and a miracle to go with it the human female figure is an example of what i want to look like when i was 10 years old i dressed up as a girl i really felt good later on i went ahead and bought my own female clothes i felt comfortable doing so now i look pretty in them i wished i was able to put that picture on the internet if i could i will anyhow i wear a dress another one i wear a skirt, and a blouse a swimsuit one piece and a high heels. I am so beautyful plus i had to wear a wig to complete my feminism look i am living as a full time as a female even without this surgery at the present time well i hope you get the picture. I also own a bikini swimsuit i hope i,m not getting carried a way i just want you know about my feelings thanks ever so much {signed} Josephine Shaffer P.S. I hope you read this and display it as you wish.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.160.181.8 (talk • contribs)

Cjr121

Someone did lose it. They have since been blocked (not by me). I was going to post "Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?" on their Talk page, but got caught up in an edit conflict where they blanked their page, so I just protected it blank. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Just as well. Interesting choice of epithet he used for you. Not real bright, I guess. Fan-1967 22:27, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll have you know

DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS AN ENTIRE LISTING ON WIKEPEDIA OF RACIAL SLURS, SUCH AS NIGGER, JIGABOO, CRACKER, HONKEY, MAMMY OR MAMMY WOMAN, ALABAMA BLUE GUMS, ALLIGATOR BAIT, CHINK, WOP, KRAUT, AND KIKE? IT IS A BIG LIST. THERE ARE MANY MORE. HOW THEN CAN YOU INFORM ME THAT I AM NOT ALLOWED TO ADD A PREVIOUSLY EXISTING SLUR ON THE LIST. YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY IT BY SAYING THAT IT WILL OFFEND PEOPLE. WHY? WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME? DID YOU NOT KNOW ABOUT THE GIANT LIST OF RACIAL SLURS? PLEASE REPLY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DID THIS TO ME. WHY AM I BEING VICTIMIZED?

IAMRITE

Because your original posting of the article was a racial slur, and you have not made one actual legitimate edit. Fan-1967 22:36, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Robinson Page

Hey man, can you take a look at the Jackie Robinson page for me. It's displaying funky for me down where it says The Early Years and I want to make sure I didn't screw something up. It looked fine for me when I did it at work so I'm hoping I wasnt the one that screwed it up.

Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Skitzzo (talk • contribs) 01:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

so your saying.................

that if i can verify the truth of this new fast spreading slang word then i can keep it on here??? if u could give me reasons, or a list of criteria it has to meet that would be great. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Oilready (talk • contribs) 03:16, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

No, you have to demonstrate that it has already grown to be notable, widely cited in Reliabel Sources. Even then, you would have to deal with the Wikipedia policy on Neologisms.

BTW, why the new username? You didn't like being Iamrite? -- Fan-1967 03:19, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

so what you saying is....i just wanted a better name/ip

so what your saying is , is that unless its published or broadcast by an acredited newspaper,newstation,magazine etc... then its nonsense and is otherwise not factual????

o and dont think your all cool now because u realized that it was me agian. i dint think u guys would know. c'mon a monkey could figure out that if this sn edited this and then the same thing was edited or added under a differant name , that its the same person...btw monkey (nopt a racial slur) just a mammal in case u were gunna blow up in my face about it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oilready (talk • contribs)

Not necessarily that it's nonsense, but that it's not Verifiable, and we have an unbreakable rule on that. Without that rule, who knows what sort of nonsense would end up here. Fan-1967 03:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

so when do i get my reply??

huh huh??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Oilready (talk • contribs) 03:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

Reply to what? To your last post? Look up. Fan-1967 03:39, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

hey....

so yeah im bein a dick i realize this.. having an extremely bad day so yea but if i can 1.reaserch the word moe 2.have the whole NEUTRALITY thing goin on 3.varify tha the word is being spred by three acredited resoources and thier location,time date etc.. 4.no nonsense ,vulgarity,vandalism...ex you cant help but smile when u say puppy.

which is true u have no soul (in my opinion) is you dont at least smirk at the thought of saying the word puppy..(or u could just hate dogs) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Oilready (talk • contribs) 03:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

First of all, three isn't "multiple" sources. Secondly, we have two other policy issues: Wikipedia:Avoid neologisms and Wikipedia is not a dictionary. In particular, it is not a slang dictionary. Slang varies all over the place, is often regional, means different things to different people of different ages or groups in different places, and changes constantly. Not an encyclopedic subject. If you want to post that kind of thing, try Urban Dictionary. That's a great site for that sort of thing. Fan-1967 03:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

cant figure out how to view the comment

...(explained above)...

but

this is a fact that its spread and how is three not a multiple? its three a grouple there are multiple people in that group. .........?

Most people interpret "multiple" to mean "many". Three still falls in the range of "few". Three may mean it's spread, but not very far. Fan-1967 03:55, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

so

what do you do if people (whod odnt think the holocaust is real) wanna change this, thats kinda a big thing i mean they recently held a conferance on that

They're documented here. See Holocaust denial. -- Fan-1967 03:56, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

wow

ok so yea my spelling was bad on the last one but ive had a few too many ... ummm whu dosnt yyour site have icelantic or latin(although it is a dead language)

There is an Icelandic Wikipedia: http://is.wikipedia.org

As for Latin, even if a few people wanted to write articles in Latin, who would read them? It would die pretty quickly for lack of interest. Fan-1967 04:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

what

what is wikepidias stance on undserage drinking or gay marrige or cristianity or pornogrophy ....such things brought here by the devil

Wikipedia does not take stances. It documents, from a Neutral Point of View. Fan-1967 04:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

o and oone more thing

why couldnt i put nigglet on there u have a entire page on slang with very offensive launguage on there and i cant have nigglet ...how did they prove the spaghetti nigger is a real word, if there going to have them they may as well have all of them such as durka durka _a term to desribe the pople of the sand(star wars) or arabians

i would love a reply on all of these if u could

thanx--Oilready 04:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)kraumdar

Bat ears

He's just keeping right on going... He only wants to do what she wants to do, and everyone else be damned. --Mhking 04:46, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Dont worry, Bat ears is done. And her newly created sock puppett will not act up. Bat ears jr 04:53, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

There are now multiple admins attending to this. Please let us do our work. The vandalism name-calling doesn't help, whether true or not. Thanks for reporting it to AIV.--Kchase T 05:02, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Remember me.

Sup, I am a new user who will get associated with you, a good user. Tell me all you know so I can be a good Wikipedian. Ps. Ahung is an absolute genius. To learn more about this fabulous boy, go to User:Ahung.

Well, the first piece of advice is for you to never go near your friend the other Anil's page, or any page he's edited, or feud with him in any way. There's been way too much of that from both of you. Fan-1967 05:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

No actually we've reformed.--Aved 01:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry bout that

Sorry, I guess I got a bit carried away. I won't do that in the future. Thanks for stopping me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ahung (talk • contribs) 05:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

Yeah. Don't post anything about any "anonymous prodigee", or anything else you can't verify from external, reliable sources. It wouldn't be a bad idea if you just left the Rāga article alone entirely for awhile, since that's been the source of so much trouble. Fan-1967 05:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey that's a wonderful idea. Thanks for your help. I guess thats what you Editors are for.

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OH yeah

OH yeah, Ani and I made a truce a long time ago. Now I'm dedicated to making Wikipedia better and so is he. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ahung (talk • contribs) 05:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

Yeah that's what I told Fan-1967, that we have reformed.--Aved 01:38, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

question

Not trying to be rude, but how come you are allowed to freely delete articles and all that? I did it to an article that was inapropriate once and I was reprimanded by some editor. The next day, that article was deleted. How come? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ahung (talk • contribs) 05:50, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

I don't delete articles. I tag articles that look like they should be deleted. If an admin agrees, they are deleted. The important part, of course, is understanding policy so that I tag the right articles. Fan-1967 05:52, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh right

Sorry, i didn't know that. I'll be more careful next time.

magnificent city

yeah, It's not empty anymore, but thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Faldizzle (talk • contribs) 20:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

Young actresses

Does this one seem like one we've seen before, or a different one? Mak (talk) 23:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place to advertise your company?

Can you please tell me how creating an unbiased, imparial, informative entry about my company is any different to entries about Ford, IBM or Microsoft?

James Musgrave Net Perceptions

My USB Cable is Awesome

Hi. I just got ANOTHER message on my talk page about a page I made for my InfoTech teacher. Once again I say I sm sorry to haved caused this issue, and I had requested that it be deleted. Lego1496 08:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

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CSD

Naw, I'd say just a prank. By the way, your "new section" button on your mainpage is very helpful; you used the template, which means that the link (for me) rendered as https:! Pretend that made sense. -- Chris is me 05:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, it didn't but I'll pretend it did. Author of that piece was involved in trying to defend a couple articles on unpublished SF books and their author in AFD a while back, so I thought this might be related. Fan-1967 05:12, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

man you are fast - please perhaps just give me some more time to create the page and flesh it out with info and links. god bless america and wikipedia - again i compliment you on being so FAST wow wikipedia sure is great like that - i am amazed all the time how quickly vandalism, errors, etc are taken off - i myself check the recent changes page often to get vandals - how else can i become involved? i just started editing pages, etc and adding stuff besides reverting vandalism - i added adopt me to my user page which is also newly created - any ideas for me??

ok - thank you - you know a lot about wikipedia - amazing that you could put all that up right away - im awed and amazed - how can i cite local papers, etc? is this possible or does this info have to be available online? biagio has other things going on for him - i just started the site~!!

Why Does It Say Your A Knob Jockey?

I Was Wondering If I Could Be Told Your Side Of The "Factory: The Musical" Deletion Battle That Went On. Many Thanks Chris57 12:27, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Excuse Me

I Would Appreciate It If You Responded To My Comment (Above). In Your Own Words, Can You Please tell me What Happened With The Whole "Factory: The Musical" Buisness. And If Possible, is There A Record Of The Discussion That Took Place On The "Factory: The Musical" Page. Chris57 13:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Why would I bother to respond to a 14-year-old vandal? Fan-1967 20:19, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Now Thats Just Harsh. I Was Just Wondering. I Have NOT Vandalised, And Will Not Anymore. I Have Seen The Error Of My Ways. I Would Much Appreciate This Is You Could Put The Past Behind Us And Explain To Me The Events That Took Place. Chris57 22:33, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Can We Please Just Start Again? Chris57 22:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

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