User talk:Fabricationary/Archive 2

This is an archive of my talk page. If you want to leave me a message, please use my current page. If you leave it here, I may never see it. Thanks for your cooperation. Fabricationary 05:32, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

My RfA thanks

Hello Fabricationary/Archive 2, and thank you for your support at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with an overwhelming final count of (105/2/0). I was very pleased with the outpouring of kind words from the community that has now entrusted me with these tools, from the classroom, the lesson in human psychology and the international resource known as Wikipedia. The Free Encyclopedia. I will continue to monitor WP:PNT, although you, Fsotrain09 and others are doing a great job at filling the niche I once occupied mostly by myself. Please feel free to leave me plenty of requests, monitor my actions (through the admin desk on my userpage) and, if you find yourself in the mood, listen to some of what I do in real life. In any case, keep up the great work and have a fabulous day. Grandmasterka 07:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

My Edits

Stop reverting my edits darn it! Just because you don't know Cameron Browne doesn't mean others do not. Citikiwi 07:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

McCartney Weddings

I wouldn't call it "stubborn", since you asked for explanation and I complied. Please take into consderation the fact that I completely complied with your request. The McCartney family changed music and animal activism for good, which was my main point. I doubt people will confuse the significance of a McCartney wedding with that of another pop singer, don't you agree? 128.226.219.107 05:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

"Be aware that by contributing to Wikipedia, you're allowing anyone, regardless of their beliefs, values, and ideas, to mercilessly edit, remove, change, or do whatever they'd like to your contributions."

Oh, I totally agree. I just think that putting the accomplishments of the McCartney family along, say, the lines of those of Jessica Simpson or Avril Lavigne--who I and just about anyone else would consider "celebrities"--is totally insane.

128.226.219.107 05:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Seriously, as I think more on the subject, it has to do with the incredible *impact* that the Beatles had on the music world, what with backwards tape loops, confidence in young people to be artists, new directions in music, etc...and then Mary McCartney's ability to take this legacy and re-establish the Eastman hold on photography, photographing the fourth child of the Prime Minister for his first photo shoot, while managing the picture department at MPL Communications; major activism in the areas of breast cancer and animal rights--I know it's opinion here, but we're clearly in the region of "legend", rather than just "celebrity". 128.226.219.107 06:00, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Births,Dates,&Deaths

Thank you,Fabricationary! I appreciate your effort to help me. However,if you're blocking my date edits,I would appreciate if you stopped it. Anyway,I admire your language skills. I can only speak English,Spanish,German,and Japanese. I admire you,and thanks!!!-Hempfel

Apizaco

Nice job on the translation.Bjones 18:59, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

RE:Usher

Hey, sorry, I was a bit too fast maybe. I just wanted to excluded the section because the article size was too long. In my opinion this part didn't fit well with rest of the site ...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Noboyo (talk • contribs) 00:30, 23 July 2006

Anon User

Sorry 'bout the delay in responding. We just got our electricity back. I'll check into the user you mentioned and see if there's anything new to clean up. In the final analysis, we're here just about every day... Glad to be back. Rklawton 00:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Hupda

In case you are interested I have finished translating the full article now. I would appreciate any advice you could give me about the next step. i have flagged it on 'Pages needing Translation into English' as finished and pointed it out it could do with being checked by an anthropologist as it got pretty technical. After that it would need a tidy up too! Thanks for your help Kyrian 14:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for taking it over and my apologies for being such a bad reader ;). I think i got a bit blinkered towards the end of the translation. Let me know when you are done as I would like to see what it turns out as when tidied up. All the best Kyrian 15:08, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you so much for voting in my recent RFA. It passed on the relatively narrow vote of 38/8/8. It was also one of the least-participated-in RFA nominations in several months, so pat yourself on the back, and join the party on your left, but first, take your cookie! NOTE: I can't code HTML to save my life. I copied this from Misza13. I guess I should write him a thank you note as well. Cookies sold separately. Batteries not included. Offer not valid with other coupons. May contain peanuts or chicken. Keep out of the reach of small children, may present a choking hazard to children under the age of 3. Do not take with alcohol. This notice has a dark background and therefore may be eaten by a grue at any time. The receiver of this message, hereafter referred to as "Pudding Head" relinquishes all rights and abilities to file a lawsuit or any other litigious activities. RyanGerbil10, Jimbo Wales, and the states of Georgia, North Dakota and Wisconsin are not liable for any lost or stolen items or damage from errant shopping carts.

Thank you so much! RyanGerbil10(The people rejoice!) 03:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

vandalism?

This edit might not be the best (I don't really know), but it doesn't appear to be vandalism to me... Does it really deserve a user warning? --Interiot 15:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I see your point. I don't care much about t1 versus t3, I just prefer to be cautious about accusing users of vandalism unless their actions are more or less clear. Certainly redlinks shouldn't be added to December 23, and I guess I can see how the other things you mentioned might make it a borderline vandalism. --Interiot 17:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Your t3 to Sheepyman

Do you think it was appropriate to jump straight to test3 with Sheepyman?
I'm not sure what he did, by all means if it was very serious, let me know. Otherwise, when warning vandals use the correct procedure (1-2-3) generally. Thanks. --Deon555|talk|e 00:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for your message. I am convinced you took the appropriate steps. Thanks--Deon555|talk|e 00:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

For keeping vandals off my user page, it is much appreciated Canadian-Bacon 03:56, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Running gags

Dude, why on Earth do you want Wikipedia to remove the original List of running gags but keep the articles listing Recurring jokes in The Simpsons and Running gags in Friends? If the original list honestly doesn't deserve to be on Wikipedia, then I guess maybe those latter two don't either! --Nintendo Maximus 22:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

thanks

I saw that you gave the "test1" notice in my behalf. I know that there are several others who forget to give the notices and thus appreciate your efforts. Kukini 01:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

We are in agreement on that. Sadly, many just put "rvv" and then don't put the user notice. Keep up the good work! Kukini 01:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

thanks from me, too

That was fast, Fab! Thanks for the coding help on Follis. I was experimenting trying to figure out what I did wrong (my first new article) and voila! there you were. ```` Agita

Thanks for the Barnstar

Thanks again for the Working Man's Barnstar! I've been working very hard on St. Louis Cardinals players b-days and deaths. I am doing this never-ending work because I am nearing 4,000 edits and love to help out on Wikipedia. Thanks again, User:Clay4president

Hey

Excuse me but it sez on the deletion tab that I can remove it if it inappropiate for its status. So I did. So I never actually vandalised. --1 Meat and 2 Veg 06:52, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

But why does this article keep have to recreated, theres nothing wrong with it. --1 Meat and 2 Veg 06:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I would certainly appreciate knowing why I cannot be writing about a book I like on the net as there is a page for a book by John Gray "Men are from mars, women are from venus" on this website?? Magicofwoman 07:42, 31 July 2006 (UTC) Magicofwoman

Fabricationary: I'm Les Morgenstern author of the book What Every Man should Know about Women and developer of the free web book sites having the URL’s Magicofwoman.com and Whateverymanshouldknowaboutwomen.com. I would like to apologize to you and the entire Wikipedia Organization for each and every contribution we thought we were making in good conscience to Wikipedia.

I would also like to explain what happened in some detail, as the people who work for me didn't mean to break any of your organizations rules in any manner, shape or form. I did not know the rules myself and had left it up to others to handle the marketing of my book.

Chetan without my knowledge made the first two contributions without knowing your rules. Then others duplicated his mistake in response to his mistakes being deleted from Wikipedia. I had no idea all of this was going on incorrectly until I fould out from Chetan that he had put information on Wikipedia and so had they, all of this culminating in getting your email about what was being done wrong.

The last thing I want to do is get banned from Wikipedia! I can assure you that I am neither a flake nor some kind of a nut trying to do something wrong at the expense of your organization and your readers.

I can further assure you that if you go to my website you will find a truly formidable analysis of the subject THINGS MEN SHOULD KNOW ABOUT WOMEN which is a topic that the Wikipedia organization wanted someone to write an article about.

I know it is a lot to ask but I am going to ask you to do it anyway. So here goes: I would like you to go to my website and read what I have written. If you come away impressed then I would like you and the Wikipedia organization to allow me to write the Article about either THINGS MEN SHOULD KNOW ABOUT WOMEN or What Every Man should Know about Women which is basically the same thing.

I never intended to publish the book except as a Free Web Book. So I will never be a noted published author, which is one of the criteria you mentioned as being a requirement. I am asking you and the staff of Wikipedia to make an exception for me and for all of humanity. Why? When you read my book you will understand that I am trying to eliminate the suffering between all men and all women in the world through the discoveries I have made over the past years of my life. I know that John Gray and many noted psychologist are in error and are using faulty logic some of which wikipedia has (thank God) pointed out in it’s article on his popular book.

You may think I’m a flake, nut or egotist for even writing you this letter, but after you read what I have written about the general 7+2 theory which is in the Basics and what I have written in the mini-books on THE INTELLECTUAL AND ROMANTIC WOMEN I’m confident you and the staff at Wikipedia will change their minds.

I have dedicated my time, money and years of research to getting a book written that can be accessed by anyone in any country from any background and culture that will stand the test of time and that will supercede Gray’s work and the work of Psychologists all of whom have missed several main points about the behavior of women specifically and the behavior of humans of both genders. I know or think I know why that happened. I want to get my information out so that the suffering can be reduced worldwide. I realize that you may not be in a decision making position at Wikipedia but if you can’t on your own make that decision then I would appreciate being able to get in tough with those who are.

The information in my book id “spot on” you won’t find it anywhere and if you take the time to read what I wrote you will readily see it’s true and accurate and not the work of some “mad scientist”. I recall in your profile seeing your self-description as a “mad scientist”. I don’t think of myself as engaging in mad science and since everything I am writing is free then whatever I am one thing is for sure it’s not about making money.

So I want to thank you for in advance for your anticipated future cooperation and ask you to please not ban me or my work from Wikipedia because we didn’t understand the rules and secondly, allow me to write the article(s) about what men should know about women men all over the world sorely need … most especially in those cultures where arranged marriages are the tradition of the culture.

All the best.

Les Magicofwoman 11:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC) Magicofwoman

P.S. If you search for What Every Man should Know about Women on MSN my book is both 1 & 2, on Yahoo #2, on Google 7 & 11 almost always there are more than10 million others who didn’t rank as high.

P.P.S. readership on the site is growing at the rate of 50% per month. Les Magicofwoman 11:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC) Magicofwoman

VandalProof warning

I have concerns that you do not understand the policies (specifically the Speedy deletion criteria) well enough to be implementing them with VandalProof. See the discussion here. Ansell 02:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Date Article Holidays

I deleted a religious holiday from a small religeon awhile back. But I don't really think we've got criteria for what counts as an observance - other than that it must repeat, etc. What size religion is too small to consider? Less than a billion, less than 100 million, less than 1 million? I think I'd prefer to do it based on numbers so that folks don't feel picked on by us wicked Wiki-meanies. That is, I don't think I want to create a list of "approved" religions. By-the-numbers effectively does the same thing, but at least it allows for growth. At any rate, I'd appreciate it if you gave this some thought and perhaps started a thread on the project page. And, of course, if you don't think that's wise, then, well, that's why I thought I'd bounce the idea off of you first. Rklawton 00:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I think we could even go with half of that. And/Or - I also think we might want to consider the age of the religion as an alternative qualification. Perhaps a thousand years continuous practice or so. This would allow Zoroastrianism and Gnosticism (though they probably don't use this calendar) and a few other really cool middleastern religions (John the Baptist still has followers in northern Iraq I believe). Rklawton 05:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Separate note

I'll complete my 10,000th edit in the next few days. Whee for me! Just for grins, I think I'll use this particular edit to add my name to the non-admins with high edit counts list. I've got a couple thousand edits in other wikis, but this one has been the most fun. Rklawton 05:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

What's going on?

How did I vandalize anything? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.77.162.100 (talk • contribs) 07:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure how that happened... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.77.162.100 (talk • contribs) 08:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Dates

How do you know which dates (e.g, January 1, March 8) get vandalized? Do you go through every date of the year every day? Carmelapple 23:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Each of us has a watch list where we can choose what articles to keep tabs on. My list varies between 1-2 thousand. You can set this on a per-article basis using the "Watch" tab or check box. Rklawton 23:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks and yes I am going to try and help. See my private watchlist here. Carmelapple 02:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

2 negations equivalent to an affirmation: Non-nonsense= good sense on quantic organisms deletion

This article is a mandala of cosmic wisdom that frabicationary cant even enjoy in its poetic sense alvatros, as such it will die in the rhtyms of eviL&Live that destrosy and creates all.Certainly non non sense which means by the negation of the negation, strict common sense. All is living, dust of energy and time ;-) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alvatros (talk • contribs) 01:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your concern

Thanks for your concern but if you don't like the dates I add or don't think they are significent that does not give you the right to revert it. Other people might find the dates I add to be signifigent. So please stop reverting what add. Thank You, Planb11

mariah carey?

what's with the picture situation? why is it that way? --Colorfulharp233 00:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh!!! i get it now!!! so, yeah. that'll be my job from now on, actually taking nice pictures of celebrities for wikipeida!!! --Colorfulharp233 00:18, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I thought I might jump in as a photographer here. WP has a policy of "no original research", yet photos I take and contribute can easily be interpreted as exactly that. In addition, photos, like art in general, easily communicate a POV. Take for example, East St. Louis, Illinois (I'm not responsible for that photo). The main photo makes ESL look like a lovely little brown-stone kind of place - and not the drug and gang infested hell hole that it is. So, isn't the photo used actually POV pushing? Let's keep all that in mind. As for Ms. Carey... just keep these things in mind. I haven't viewed the images in question, so I have no opinion. Rklawton 00:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Adolfo Pedernera

Hi. I wanted to thank you for your excellent work translating and improving the Adolfo Pedernera entry, a much needed article. - ChaChaFut 02:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism warnings

Hi. I ascribe to a 'put yourself in their shoes' philosophy. From his perspective; there was a line about some guy he may never have heard of, who turned out to be a professional wrestler (and apparently a minor one at that). You'd never find info on a person like that in Brittannica... must not be notable, better remove it. Then some guy comes along and accuses me of vandalism?! I'll show him. Et cetera.

Now obviously it is impossible to know exactly what someone is thinking, especially if they don't use an edit summary, but that's where AGF comes in. You have seen his edit history... some contentious issues here and there, but no prior blocks, no prior vandalism warnings. Did it really seem plausible that it was his intent to damage the encyclopedia? In your comments on my page you seem to say instead that he was 'applying an incorrect view of notability' and thus removing something which was notable by normal Wikipedia standards... which is true, but explicitly not vandalism. NPOV violations (which you described this as), mistakes, stubborness, et cetera are all specifically listed as not vandalism.

"Vandalism is any addition, deletion, or change to content, made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of the encyclopedia."

I just think that if there is any reasonable possibility, let alone what seems to me a likelihood, that the person was trying to improve things, even if based on a 'biased' view of what is 'better', then the word 'vandalism' shouldn't come into it. It's not what Wikipedia's vandalism policy is meant to cover and it ups the 'annoyance factor' when it doesn't need to. If you and he had continued to revert that sentence back and forth you would both have eventually been blocked for 3RR violation... because disagreements about content or notability are not vandalism. Obviously, he shouldn't have reacted the way he did, but it can only benefit everyone to assume people are acting in good faith barring clear evidence to the contrary. --CBD 11:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

My edit to June 30

Please do not deliberately introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did at June 30. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Fabricationary 14:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

• It is not incorrect information, I got it directly from the Jessica Simpson page. It is an event. So I would like to know why you deleted it and called it vandalism. It is an event. I put it under the Events section. What's so vandalist about that? – 71.162.31.12 15:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Motorola V180

A while ago, May to be exact, you reverted an edit regarding potential flaws of the Motorola V180 for being in contravention of the Neutral Point of View policy. I have tried to reintegrate those complaints into the article in a neutral way with pictures (That was a nightmare) and references. I ask that you take a look at the page and check it and edit/revert it if necessary.

Thank you for your time.

--Signed and Sealed, JJJJust (T C) 09:39, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Image tagging for Image:FayeHamlin.jpg

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Note: The image is no longer being used - I uploaded it when I was a new editor and have since replaced it with an image of which the copyright status is known and properly noted. Fabricationary 17:53, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Steve Howey

Thanks for removing the double redirect. That was going to be my thing to figure out today, but now I don;t have to because you did it, so thanks. -FateSmiled&DestinyLaughed 12:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Jamaican coat of arms

Hi Fabricationary, I was adding interlanguage links to the Coat of arms of Jamaica page when I noticed you had moved it to a new title where "arms" was spelled with a capital A. Please be aware that a policy has already been established at Category talk:National coats of arms. Thank you. - GilliamJF 06:28, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Kpjas' RFA

Hi Fabricationary! (Great username, BTW)

On Kpjas' RFA, you have voted neutral based on his apparent lack of experience, ("your usertalk edits are quite low, and as Thatcher131 pointed out, your Wikipedia space edits aren't in administrative areas. I would gladly support you in a few months if you actively worked on those five items you listed above"). In fact, Kpjas is already an admin on the Polish Wikipedia, and has 37,000 edits there, including 2,600 to WP space over there. You have voted neutral based on inexperience in admin areas, but these facts clearly indicate plenty of experience in the required areas. Fab, you want an experienced editor for admin. Kpjas is clearly experienced. Without badgering you, I urge you to reconsider your vote in this particular RfA. Happy editing! :) Firsfron of Ronchester 00:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your note, Fab. I'm glad you've looked into the situation again. I share your belief that had his adminship status and huge number of edits on .pl been brought up at the start, the early votes would likely have been different. Anyway, thanks for taking a second look at the RfA. Best, Firsfron of Ronchester 03:37, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Drmspeedy discussion

I think it would be great if you would have your say at the discussion here since your use of the tag is partially why I put the tag up for discussion. Cheers, Ansell 07:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Latin Userboxes

Just wanted to let you know your "Level 1 Latin userbox" on your user page is displayed twice. And nice job beating me to the punch on removing the redlink from September 1.--Lkjhgfdsa 00:53, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:GirlsAloud Nadine.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:GirlsAloud Nadine.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. T-rex 01:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Note: the image that I uploaded is appropriately and completely licensed and sourced, and a note has been left with the nominator. Fabricationary 04:08, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Teke's RfA thanks

Thank you for your support of my RfA, which has passed with a final tally of 76/1/1. With this overwhelming show of support and approval I am honored to serve Wikipedia in the task charged to me and as outlined in my nomination. Happy editing to you! Teke ^(talk) 17:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Yonmei query - page nominated for deletion?

Hi. You were kind enough to offer assistance should I have a query, and I do! I've been going through the names listed in the category "Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender" people to move them into subcategories: in the course of doing this, sometimes doing other (usually minor) edits to the pages I come across. I found a webpage for a porn star, "Leah Luv", who appeared to be "non notable". So I nominated that page for deletion, 26th August. On 27th August, I see that someone not logged in deleted the notice of nomination for deletion, removing Leah Luv from the category of pages nominated for deletion. (No comments on why they did so on the discussion page for "Leah Luv".) What's the proper thing to do now? I've never nominated a page for deletion before: I don't fundamentally care if Leah Luv goes in or stays out, but I suppose I might care more in future for some other page. Um. I wouldn't bother you, but you did say to ask! Yonmei 20:32, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for answering the question! Yonmei 18:39, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm confused

You sent me a message..."Thank you for experimenting with the page February 6 on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thank you for your understanding. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Fabricationary 05:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)". I have no idea what that means and I never edited that page. Feel free to get back to me. Xoxixox 07:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)Xoxixox

Help!

   Dear Fabricationary,

   I need your proper support. A recent article I created,Aha Variable,is being requested for deletion just because it may be a hoax. No,it is not a hoax. I specified the sources,so it would be niced if you checked and deleted the "Deletion Request" Box. But last,if you do all this work [ :) ] I would like that you improve Aha Variable. Please, and thanks!   ~~User:Hempfel

I Understand

Yeah,I understand. It's just that I'm new [and I'm only eleven years old :o ] and don't know how Wikipedia runs. Thanks. There's a saying that goes: "One Learns From His Mistake."~~User:Hempfel