User talk:Ethreinen
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[edit]Hello, I am known Gears of War, I am a part of Wikipedia and I would like to welcome you to Wikipedia, here is some stuff you should know and some links to follow.
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Hi, regarding your note that all information in the article comes from the subject himself, you need to read WP:Verifiability and WP:Reliable sources. In short, because we don't know Mr Daugherty and we don't know you, we need to rely on published sources so that anyone can verify the contents if they so choose. Otherwise, there's no way for anyone to know that you're not just making it up. Can you please provide references (in the form of footnotes -- see WP:Citing sources) to published sources? In the meantime, I'm going to tag the article as possibly being original research. Thank you. howcheng {chat} 16:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Fire and Blood, and it appears to include a substantial copy of http://www.michaeldaugherty.net/description.cfm?trackid=157. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences.
This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot (talk) 21:01, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Time Machine (composition), and it appears to include a substantial copy of http://michaeldaugherty.net/description.cfm?trackid=176. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences.
This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot (talk) 21:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Fire and Blood
[edit]A tag has been placed on Fire and Blood requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.
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Speedy deletion of Time Machine (composition)
[edit]A tag has been placed on Time Machine (composition) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.
If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must include on the external site the statement "I, (name), am the author of this article, (article name), and I release its content under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 and later." You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}}
to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. - Toon05 18:30, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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Conflict of interest
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Copyright violation in Jackie O (the opera) and other articles
[edit]I have removed the entire "Note by Composer" section. It was pasted in verbatim from a copyright web site: http://www.michaeldaugherty.net/description.cfm?trackid=115. I see that you have also done this for several other compositions by Daugherty, e.g. Bells for Stokowski, UFO (composition), Dead Elvis (composition), Metropolis Symphony, Niagara Falls (composition). Please remove the material from those articles and please read the links concerning copyright policy on Wikipedia that other editors have left on this page. Also, if you are Michael Daugherty, someone acting on his behalf, or someone with a personal or business relationship to him, you have a clear conflict of interest which you should declare on the talk pages of any articles concerning him or his compositions that you have edited. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 07:30, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Update: Since no effort has been made to remove the copyvio material from the composition articles. They have now been replaced by copyright infringement notices and notified to Wikipedia:Copyright problems:
- Metropolis Symphony (history · last edit) from [1].
- Niagara Falls (composition) (history · last edit) from [2].
- Dead Elvis (composition) (history · last edit) from [3].
- UFO (composition) (history · last edit) from [4].
- Bells for Stokowski (history · last edit) from [5].
If you wish to rewrite the articles, follow the instructions on each article for creating a temporary page. But note that they must not contain any verbatim material from other copyright web sites (including Michael Daugherty's), they must be referenced to verifiable, reliable sources, which are independent of the composer to establish the work's notability, and they must be written in the third person in an encyclopedic style, not as personal reflections. Any link to the composer's web site must be to the exact page where the information can be found, not simply to the home page. However, this is problematic since if you are Michael Daugherty or are his representative as this edit seems to indicate, repeatedly adding links to his web site, especially since that site has links for purchasing his recordings, would normally be considered spamming by Wikipedia. See Advertising and conflicts of interest for guidance on what to do in this situation. You might also find it helpful to contact the Wikipedia Contemporary Music Project for guidance on style, or help with editing in these circumstances. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 09:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello there. This is a message from Ethreinen. I am the one that has been working on the Michael Daugherty site. I have been out of town a few days and see that much has been done to his site and the links. Reading what you have written here (above, regarding the updates), I understand better why you have removed the various material. Please know that there is no malice in any way on my part or the intentions of the composer, himself, in creating the article and links. This process is a new one for me, as I have never written articles for WIKIPEDIA. Therefore, I am learning about the rules and regulations. I will be spending more time reading the information above - about citations and conflict of interest - and will redo the material in the manner that you suggested. In regards to Michael Daugherty's main page, please do not yet delete this, as I am still trying to understand how to appropriately cite material about a living person (I am a little confused by the information from WIKI). If you have a suggestion, please do let me know, as I don't want to infringe on policy or wound the integrity of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethreinen (talk • contribs) 05:38, 13 July 2008
- Hi, I've replied on my talk page more fully since you also posted your queries there. But no one is going to delete the Michael Daugherty article, although others may edit it, as happens with all Wikipedia articles. The composition articles will probably be reduced to stubs, or possibly deleted by an administrator if there is no salvageable non-copyright material in them, but by not me, I'm not an administrator). Also don't forget to sign your messages both on your talk page and on other talk pages by adding ~~~~ to the end of your message. Best wishes. Voceditenore (talk) 15:59, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Your deletion of comments from Talk:Michael Daugherty
[edit]Article talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments by other editors is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. I have restored my comments. Please do not remove them again. It is legitimate to remove a banner, but you need to note and justify your reasons on the talk page of the actual article, not on the talk page of one of the editors. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 10:17, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
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