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Tone of this article

Note also that the article is overly detailed, has too much of a personally invested tone and in many places reads like a story rather than an encyclopedia article. Examples abound, e.g.

"Encouraged by his mother, Daugherty learned how to paint, draw cartoons, tap dance, and play basketball. His father Willis and his uncle Danny Nicol also taught the young Daugherty how to play rock and jazz drums. From 1963-67 Daugherty played bass drum in the Emerald Knights and tom-toms in Grenadier Drum and Bugle Corps. This meant spending the hot and humid Iowa summers rehearsing 4 hours a day and taking long bus rides to compete against other Drum and Bugle Corps in small towns all over the Midwest. During that time Daugherty was a also paper boy for The Des Moines Register, where he woke up at 6 a.m. every morning – sometimes to frigid winter sub zero weather – to deliver newspapers in the neighborhood and to Mercy Hospital." "Daugherty then decided to move to New York City to experience first hand the exploding new music scene. He studied serialism with Charles Wuorinen at the Manhattan School of Music (1976-77) where he was awarded a Master of Music in Composition. To earn money for his studies, Daugherty was an usher at Carnegie Hall and a rehearsal pianist for dance classes directed by the legendary New York City Ballet dancer Jacques d'Amboise." "During his high school years (1968-72), Daugherty was the leader, arranger and organist for the "Soul Company", a popular 8-piece rock, soul, and funk band, which performed the music of James Brown, Blood, Sweat & Tears, Sky and the Family Stone, and Motown. Since sheet music was not available, Daugherty had to transcribe the music for his band by listening to vinyl recordings and notating it by hand. Driving a Chevrolet station wagon with a trailer in tow, Daugherty’s father drove the band to gigs at high school proms and dances in small towns throughout Iowa." Voceditenore (talk) 10:59, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

The above comments relate to the version of July 6, 2008 [1]. Some of these issues have been addressed, but not completely in my view. Note to editor who had removed the above comments from the talk page yesterday, please do not do this again. Talk pages are meant to be a record of discussions about the article. Comments by other editors are not to be removed or refactored except to remove information violating privacy or the policies on biographies of living persons, or in some cases extreme incivility. Thank you for your cooperation. Voceditenore (talk) 10:27, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Public relations fluff

Chunks of this article read like PR material from the composer's agent. Example:

"In 1964, the entire Daugherty family took a two-week vacation to London where The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix were at the height of their fame and Carnaby Street was the cutting edge of pop culture and fashion – this was in the heart of the Swinging Sixties. The sixties in America were a time of great political unrest and social change. This made a great impact on the teenage Daugherty. Civil Rights demonstrations for racial equality and integration and demonstrations against the Vietnam War were becoming common day occurrences in Iowa by 1970, especially at the nearby University of Iowa, in Iowa City."

Where to start? Well. Jimi Hendrix was neither in London nor "at the height of [his] fame" in 1964. What is a "common day occurrence"? What do "civil rights demonstrations" have to do, demonstrably, with this composer? What does one even do with an utterly banal platitude such as "The sixties in America were a time of great political unrest and social change"? NicholasNotabene (talk) 16:54, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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