User talk:EnfesDino

January 2023

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August 2024

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Ethnicity

I see what you are doing there. What do the original sources say, African or Black? I can see someone objecting on the grounds that White Zimbabweans (for example) are definitely "African" if they were born there. John (talk) 11:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

White Zimbabweans are not indigenous, they are not "Africans", being born in Africa does not make you an African, ethnicity and ancestry does. They (the "someone" you refer to) can object all they want but that is all subjective and in the tiniest possible minority because 99% of actual Africans don't see them as such.

The only country in Sub Saharan Africa that identifies or classifies groups in its demographic is South Africa, the rest don't recognize racial categories. Most credible and relevant sources are based on African media and literature and those do not identify native Africans as "black", that only applies in South Africa which was under Apartheid control for 70+ years. https://www.thoughtco.com/racial-classification-under-apartheid-43430?form=MG0AV3

Let's not push disinformation please. This article is on an African country, and I'd like to believe I know more about African countries being a person who's lived here my entire life. EnfesDino (talk) 13:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All the original sources you'll find are based on South Africa, you will find it hard to find anything in other Sub Saharan African countries so you should take their government's stance on the issue and the stances of all Sub Saharan African countries as you'll find is not based on racial categorization. In fact many do not recognize people of European descent as "Africans". The most credible source and only one that really takes surveys in African countries is Afrobarometer. Here is an article to give you an idea, it also takes heavily from Afrobarometer: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-political-science/article/abs/ethnicity-national-identity-and-the-state-evidence-from-subsaharan-africa/D3C661B7F0A24561EC9D4398DB5CA405

The study finds that in many sub-Saharan African countries, ethnic and national identities are prioritized over "racial" categories. Ethnic affiliations are often more prominent identifiers than broader racial terms such as "Black" or "African."

EnfesDino (talk) 13:58, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]