User talk:EnDaLeCoMpLeX/Archive 8

Need U Now / Succession

hey thanks! :) I know that a lot of discussion has gone on about their removal, and a lot of people support their removal, but I do not, I think they are fine. The guy who started the movement to remove them posted this a few weeks ago and I told him how I felt. Has there been consensus to remove them? I haven't really been following the discussion.
PS- You're orange sig looks really cool on my blue background lol Nowyouseemetalk2me 20:41, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Well if someone tries to remove them I'll cross that bridge when I get to it (I may have a small WP:OWN issue with this article haha). I was entertaining the idea of trying to make it a good article because so few country articles are, but it still needs a fair bit of work though. Nowyouseemetalk2me 20:57, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Big Time Rush discography

As the nominator, it'd be inappropriate for me to close it. You can move the content back over to the main article, but the AFd has to be open 7 days before it can close. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 22:08, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Lady Antebellum discography

It's the way it's supposed be now, see here. Nowyouseemetalk2me 21:23, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah.. I'm not a huge fan of the sales column, and the countries abbreviations are freaking huge, but when I was editing it it looked even worse going by the exact samples from that page, so I tweaked some of the stuff to make it look a little better. I changed 'Country' to 'CW' because 'US Country' was so fucking big it was not pretty... I haven't even done the singles yet. Nowyouseemetalk2me 21:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

I was wrong - that's not how it's supposed to be yet officially, it's just a proposal, so you can still voice your opinion on it. Nowyouseemetalk2me 05:58, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Something to do

Hey, if you want, you can help me make more of the lists of #1 songs per year. Just use the same formatting I did for List of number-one country hits of 1999 (Canada) and List of number-one country hits of 1999 (U.S.). 1998 is the latest year for which neither has been done.

The RPM peaks are here for the most part. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 01:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Billy Ray Cyrus

Hey buddy, so he's got a new solo album comin' out in November does he? What could you tell me about this? =) CloversMallRat (talk) 16:59, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, can't say I'm too interested in the idea of a 'patriotic' collection, because I generally don't care for those songs at all. Although I'm at least more interested in that project than his recent Brother Clyde venture. Glad to know he's at least releasing some country music on the side, because that's what he does best with, IMHO. CloversMallRat (talk) 23:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Unlink

I think you got confused by the redirect — you were clicking on "Please Don't Go," which redirected back to "31 Minutes to Takeoff". I fixed the link. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 21:47, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

• Just make sure it doesn't say "redirected from x" at the top of the page, I guess. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 21:53, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Marty Raybon

Just saw you place an {{expand}} tag on Marty Raybon. You don't have to follow it, but you might be interested in this essay I wrote which suggests alternatives to {{expand}}. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 21:27, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi

Hey guy.. it was cool,.. hope you didn't miss me too much haha.. thanks a ton =D Nowyouseemetalk2me 01:27, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Need You Now (song)

Hey.. I was wondering if you'd be interested in finishing and improving this article with me, and then promoting it together? Let me know. Nowyouseemetalk2me 04:50, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Cool.. I threw together a to do list for it on User:Nowyouseeme/Sandbox that can give us an idea of what it still needs - you can add stuff or remove stuff from it as you please. Nowyouseemetalk2me 23:22, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Your user page

I have blocked the attacker and revision-deleted his edit. If it happens again, you could ask to have your userpage semi-protected. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:40, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Revolution

Ok, fine, then. But I reverted it because it looked like the typical edit that I've undid multiple times in the past, because people just slap fake RIAA certifications to things. I didn't see the source change, so that's why. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

B.T.R.

Sweet! That's great! Thanks for telling me =) CloversMallRat (talk) 23:49, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Page deletes/redirects

I have no problem with pages and/or photos being removed **IF** there is discussion first and user consensus is reached. General etiquette on Wikipedia is that such things are discussed first. But a sincere thank you for your efforts here on Wikipedia. AlaskaMike (talk) 18:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

A Little Bit Stronger

For years now the release of Sara Evans' next album has been nothing but 'ifs' & 'buts'; the expected release date is constantly being changed, along with the actual title of the album. I haven't seen any reliable sources to verify the album is for sure being released, and in fact I have a reliable source that says no release date has been scheduled for the album (the title of the album isn't mentioned either). Without posting references, saying that 'A Little Bit Stronger' is the first single from her next album is just WP:SPECULATION. If you can post reliable sources on here verifying an album release date with mention of 'A Little Bit Stronger' as the first single, then great, but if you can't then I believe it is appropriate to say it is the second single from the Country Strong soundtrack. I also would like to point out you have made the article contradictory - under the 'Singles' section and in the infobox you claim 'Stronger' isn't a single, but the introduction clearly states that it is, in fact, a single. Nowyouseemetalk2me 03:34, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Miranda

Okay, you can re-add it with that source then. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 19:04, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Jewel

Looks good. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 00:25, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

The Working Man's Barnstar

	The Working Man's Barnstar
	For all of the work that you do to tirelessly update music articles, I hereby award you the "Working Man's Barnstar". I have always found your edits to be high quality and your work is appreciated! Royalbroil 13:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. You've earned it. Royalbroil 14:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Zac Brown Band

It seems long enough to have its own article. I'd say to just put one together. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 01:02, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Buddy Jewell

I deduced it from the Canadian Albums Chart source you found by removing the non-country titles. If that's not acceptable, you can go ahead and remove it. Eric444 (talk) 04:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. Eric444 (talk) 05:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

RE: I'm American

Ok. SJ (talk) 22:03, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Billy Ray Cyrus discography

I've felt your pain too, lol. Nowyouseemetalk2me 02:01, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a Reference icon that you can press to insert one. All it asks for you to do is to insert the web link; it doesn't let you do anything else with it. Its not that I don't want to add the whole reference, its that there's no easy way to do it, and if you think I can memorize all that code then you're crazy. But then again, its not that big of a deal. I posted a link to a source to appease you, should be content with that. =) CloversMallRat (talk) 16:18, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

How do I do it, without searching for another one in an article somewhere to copy-paste so I can change it. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:58, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! CloversMallRat (talk) 17:25, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Is right to have album's name before the year of the release in the table? However, the countries in the table would be in alphabetic order (except the country where the artist is born). So, the order would be: US, US Country, AUS, CAN, CAN Country, NL, NOR, NZ, SWE and SWZ. SJ (talk) 10:43, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

To be clear, i think that the albums table would be like these pages (that are also in the featured list):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duffy_discography

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Maiden_discography

SJ (talk) 11:28, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

List of number-one country hits

Can you check the "List of number-one country hits of 19xx (U.S.)" articles and clean up the links? The idiot that did it didn't check their work, so every instance of Brooks & Dunn is listed as just "Brooks" and almost everything links to a dab page. Thanks! Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 21:48, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey

Hey Kyle can you add tables to the Liza Minnelli discography when you get a chance? Thanks. Caden ^cool 19:18, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay cool, thanks so much. Caden ^cool 19:23, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Could you add it to the singles whenever you can? I'm horrible at tables. Caden ^cool 19:34, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Kyle but I don't know how to use that template. BTW the singles table looks good. Thanks for that. Caden ^cool 21:31, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

RFC courtesy notice - succession boxes

As someone who has an interest in the use of succession boxes in articles for songs and albums, I'd like to notify you of a request for comment that is taking place at WT:CHARTS#Request for comment: Use of succession boxes. It would be nice to finally come to a resolution on this. If you have already participated in this RFC or do not wish to participate, then please disregard this notice. Thanks. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 00:40, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Lifehouse discography

Just to let you know, the book actually goes well into 2009, so B.U. peaks for the first part of 09 are verifiable. Nowyouseemescreed 00:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Reba discography

Thanks! I really thought it was a good idea to split them by decade with the new formatting. I saw the same thing on the Madonna singles discography and David Bowie discography, and thought it was a great idea. I just didn't like the way the other user split them because it didn't make any sense just going between 1976 - 2000, and then 2000 - present. I think we should do this kind of thing for any artist with a super long singles chart. ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 01:27, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Exactly! I feel the same way. I also left my opinion on the Dolly Parton talk page. It's a really good idea. It's something that could work for other classic country artists too, like George Jones, Loretta Lynn, and Tammy Wynette. ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 01:54, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Well it could be something I could help you with in the future. If you need anything, let me know :) ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 02:00, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Dolly Parton

This looks like unanimous support. I say split it now; no need to wait 7 days for a consensus since it's pretty obvious. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 19:32, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

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Dolly Parton albums discography

Sorry I was so quick with the delete button. The article has been restored. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 01:05, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

RE:

Looks pretty good. One thing there needs to be are the formats. If possible tell if the album was available on CD, cassette, 12', or whatever. Just one little thing, for the chart for the bluegrass, make sure you have a line break after US. Also if you ever wanted to take the article to FLC, you would want to try your best to get the exact dates for her early albums. Good job! Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 21:28, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

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Country Strong (song)

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Hey, what's your time zone (in offset from UTC)? I just moved Country Strong into the queue, but I'm guessing you're in the US from your userboxen, and, depending on whereabouts, it could be going on the Main Page in the evening or in the very, very early hours of the morning. If you have a preference, let me know and I'll see if I can swap it with another hook. It's in queue one at the minute and you can see the local times it'll reach the MP here. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

How many hours behind UTC are you? It's 1932 UTC now if it helps. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

OK, it'll be on the MP in about 23 hours! I swapped with a hook about Bulgaria that was due to go up in the middle of the night there. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:43, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Country Strong (song)

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Diamond Rio discography

 Done. For some reason, the Whitburn book doesn't include the Bubbling Under peaks of "Night Is Fallin' in My Heart" or "Bubba Hyde," so I linked to the Billboard issues on Google Books. Eric444 (talk) 15:10, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Star de Azlan

Its "A Man Who Can Dance" -- its titled that on her MySpace, where you can stream the song. Also, "I Want a Man That Can Dance" can't be the proper title... for one thing, the lyric is "I want a man who can dance" in the song. There's no "that." CloversMallRat (talk) 18:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

No problem. CloversMallRat (talk) 19:01, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Country Strong (song)

Thank you for your article Victuallers (talk) 00:05, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Billboard update

You can sign up for it, I think. If not, look for it at pulsemusic dot proboards dot com/index.cgi?board=country&action=display&thread=93543 (link changed to dodge spam filter). Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 01:09, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 01:16, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Re:You deserve this.

Thanks. Eric444 (talk) 03:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Rickrolling

I think this would qualify as an un-Rickroll. So you got Rickrolled twice, un-Rickrolled once. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 16:50, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Eddie Money discography

 Done. Eric444 (talk) 16:21, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Song stubs

Thanks for letting me know about the song stub thing. I really thought you list all articles as a stub. Now I'll something to remember, thanks again. David829 (talk) 08:50, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Luke Bryan

"Do I" didn't go #1 on the Country Billboard charts, but it topped the Country Aircheck charts. That's got to count, right? Anyway, I have a link to verify it:

http://www.countryaircheck.com/pdf_publication/Issue_171%20-%20December%2014,%202009.pdf (pages 1 &3 and chart page 1)

Thanks. --DorkyA.N. (talk) 14:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Luke Bryan

So, it doesn't count that "Do I" went #1 on another chart? If the Billboard chart is the only one that count, then why do they have an Aircheck chart? --DorkyA.N. (talk) 02:37, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Jacob Lyda

It does need to be that big so the title can be all on one line. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 18:37, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Grammar question

I've noticed that punctuation is always left outside quotation marks that mark song titles when it is supposed to be included within the marks. Is there any reason for this? Thanks. --DorkyA.N. (talk) 03:46, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Alan Jackson

Good call. It was getting too long and looks so much cleaner split up. I thought the new discography format was ugly when it was first introduced but it's really grown on me. Eric444 (talk) 18:44, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Hillary Scott (singer)

Thanks a lot for fixing up the format of her page. I thought it looked awkward but had absolutely no idea how to fix it. --DorkyA.N. (talk) 18:56, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Dave Haywood

Hi, I was wondering if you could help me start a page on Lady Antebellum's Dave Haywood. I'd love to start the page myself, but since I'm really new here and have absolutely no experience with this text format, I have no freaking idea how to do it. If you start the page, I'll try my best to provide the necessary reference links and help write the sections.

Thanks for your time. --DorkyA.N. (talk) 02:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

References

You've gotta be kidding me, right? It's not necessary to source each chart with the appropriate countries site if one link could be used to source all of them. If readers were so concerned about a "clear as day peak", they would click on the appropriate link. Take Hard Candy (Madonna album) (which is a good article) for example, source 46 to be exact; its citing all of the appropriate countries charts together, because they use the same publishing company, with no editors arguing that it should be sourced separately. — Gabe 19 ^{(talk contribs)} 07:02, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Shea Fisher

Why did you wipe out the AUS Country album peaks? The Australian country albums chart isn't on WP:BADCHARTS, just their singles chart. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 13:39, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

• Doesn't look like it. Stupid people making these charts and then not archiving them. What's the point? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 13:55, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Martina McBride

Hm. It was listed in Joel Whitburn's book as peaking at #68 so I went to the Billboard source to double-check and I obviously misread it. I can't find the #68 peak at Billboard or allmusic so it must be a mistake. I'll change it back. Eric444 (talk) 14:45, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out. Eric444 (talk) 14:51, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Platinum Cert for Who Says

If there's an official RIAA source for it being Platinum, I have no problem with it being changed as long as you change the source link at the same time.—Kww(talk) 17:11, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

RE: Date formatting

Ok, sorry. SJ (talk) 12:27, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Date format

Sorry, I had no idea there was a problem with that date format. As you suggested, I just copy-paste that reference on all the articles that I update the sales for, and the only time I've noticed that you've corrected the date after my edit the past 3 weeks. I may have never noticed if you hadn't told me otherwise, lol. CloversMallRat (talk) 20:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Keith Urban discography

Hi,

A couple of days ago i corrected the chart positions on Keith Urban discography that were incorrect and now you went and changed them back to the incorrect ones, i have to wonder why you did that. You removed all the Australian chart positions below Top 50. In case you didn't know the Australian Album & Singles Chart are Top 100, only the Top 50 are on http://australian-charts.com but on http://pandora.nla.gov.au/tep/23790 are all the ARIA (Australian Record Industry Association) Top 100 Charts since 2002. The ARIA reports since 2002 are selected for preservation by the State Library of New South Wales on that site and is the most complete source for the complete Top 100 charts since 2002. Unfortunately you have to know what you are looking for as all the charts are updated weekly as pdf-files. The other main source/archive for Australian charts is as mentioned http://australian-charts.com although that chart only have the Top 50 positions and only for the ARIA era (1988-present). For pre-1988 charts there is the book Australian Chart Book 1970–1992, David Kent, 1993 (Australian Chart Book, St Ives, N.S.W. ISBN 0-646-11917-6), which also includes the 51-100 chart peak postitions between 1988-1992. For the 51-100 chart peak positions for the 1993-2001 era there's the book Australian Chart Book (1993–2005), David Kent, 2006 (Australian Chart Book, Turramurra, N.S.W.. ISBN 0646458892).

Keith Urban's first album from 1991 charted for a week on 13 October 1991 at #98 in Australia not UK as you went and changed it back to. Keith Urban's 1998 album peaked at #90 for a week on 12 February 2001. I've added the two books mentioned above as sources/references for the two self-titled albums from 1991 and 1998.

The following Keith Urban singles charted on positions between 50-100 on Australian Top 100; "Raining on Sunday" (24-Feb-03*HP-79'WI-01), "Days Go By" (13-Sep-04*HP-56*WI-09), "Making Memories of Us" (13-Jun-05*HP-54*WI-10), "Sweet Thing" (24-Nov-08*HP-96*WI-01), "Kiss a Girl" (01-Jun-09*HP-87*WI-04), "Long Hot Summer" (01-Nov-10*HP-82*WI-02) and the Nelly Furtado/Keith Urban duet version of "In God's Hands" (26-May-08*HP-66*WI-02).References/Sources for all these charts positions also added. Btw "Long Hot Summer" was released as the first single from Get Closer in Australia in October 2010, so it should be under the year 2010 in the singles listing, not under 2011 when it will be released in USA or on other charting songs either. "You Look Good in My Shirt" was originally included on Golden Road when it charted from unsolicited airplay at #60. The song was re-recorded and released to radio in 2008 in a different version so the original should be listed under other charting songs. If you check http://www.billboard.com/#/song/keith-urban/you-look-good-in-my-shirt/4251919 and click on the visualizer which lists the weekly chart positions you'll find that the first week is listed in July 2004 at #60. "Hit the Ground Runnin'" and "If Ever I Could Love" charted on Billboard Hot 100 Bubbling Under Chart when the album Defying Gravity was released. The information for these charts are only available for those with a paid subscription on billboard.com.

So all the charts were valid so no need to change them back to incorrect information

Kai81 (talk) 17:17, 28 June 2011 (UTC)