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You're it. I need you.

Find me on IRC, please. ✎ Peter M Dodge ( Talk to MeNeutrality Project ) 00:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

you've got mail

Hi Elara, I've just sent you mail. I still owe a few other people messages, and I will try to get to them when I can. I hope they understand any delays. Thanks. --Kyoko 21:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

This is really late....

....But welcome back!!!!! I can't believe I missed it, but I'm glad you're okay!!!!! Hope everything stays up for you and if things evr get doown you can lean on me. Stay happy!!! —¡Randfan!Sign here? 22:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Apologies for snotty comment

I wanted to apologize to you for a snotty dismissive comment I made awhile back during an AfD. Your efforts at discussion during that AfD were commendable, and I was wrong to characterize your "new school" brand of deletionism with some of the more well known hit&run deletionists of yesteryear. I meant to apologize right when it happened but got side-tracked by other wiki-drama. I appreciate your refined level of sarcasm and astute grasp of some of the currents in wikipedia. Keep up the good work! - WeniWidiWiki 06:52, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

  • No hard feelings, and thanks for coming forward and apologising. Trust me - Elara's been called much worse by others - some people get very protective of their vanity or non-notable articles :) ✎ Peter M Dodge (Talk to Me) 19:17, 3 February 2007 (UTC) Give me a good slap if I shouldn't've replied, Elara :P

thank you

Thanks for the understanding of my comments on that arbitration. and by the way, are you really Chinese? I am and I have an identical account on Chinese Wikipedia. Wooyi 04:31, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I was born in Shenzhen and moved to United States in middle school years. Never been to France or Europe in general but would like to =). 我会使用中文,yet it is hard to retain it when not using it. Wooyi 04:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Cool Cat RfA

My comment was more about Cool Cat than about you :) I would have said the same had it been an RfC against a user I had not associated with, if I felt it was unjustified and ill-planned. riana_dzasta 05:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

That's cool :) I'm getting ready for a maths exam I have on Wednesday (I was sick during the actual exam last year, so I have to do this to make it up), so I'm sitting here, staring blankly at a page full of matrices without the slightest idea what I'm meant to do with them... *sigh* Ah well, I'll push on :) I'm trying to avoid this place, but... meh. Hope you've been OK? riana_dzasta 09:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
You never cease to amaze me... *shakes head*. I am amused and somewhat terrified. riana_dzasta 23:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Elaragirl,

Thanks for participating in my recent RfA. Even though it was ultimately successful (at 54-13-11), I value all of the feedback and have already benefited from the community's suggestions. Hope to see you around. - Gilliam 21:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Edits to my personal templates

Did you realize that Wikipedia isn't censored? I just noticed you edited User:Elaragirl/blackmagic in a way that I don't agree with. I'd like to know why you decided to do that. --ElaragirlTalk|Count 23:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

The best place to continue that discussion would be Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Elaragirl/blackmagic Jerry lavoie 00:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I have done so, but you still haven't answered my question, which I think is pretty simple. --ElaragirlTalk|Count 00:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Lemme see; the question was: why did I edit the user space page listed? The answer is because it was a violation of WP:CIVIL and contrary to WP:USER#What_can_I_not_have_on_my_user_page.3F. Jerry lavoie 00:32, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Elaragirl/blackmagic for an important message. Thanks, Jerry lavoie 14:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks for voting in it. It's a shame people accuse me of being a sockpuppet just because I know some editors who were blocked for vandalism. Just because they taught me how to use Wikipedia, doesn't mean I'm a sockpuppet.

Anyhow, how are you?? I'm OK! --sunstar nettalk 01:00, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Calton/RfC

I read your comments on the RfC page and that one comment you quoted from me was, yes, completely rude on my part, but I, had at that point, lost my temper and said somethings that shouldn't have been said...I was pissed and upset. My fault there.

As for the KXGN page, I am actively working with User:A Man In Black on that page and we are actually getting along (which is new, as AMIB and I haven't had the best wiki "relationship").

I apologize to you for reading the comments I made on Calton's talk page (the ones you quoted)...those were wrong on my part and I take full responsibility for them and I assure you, the RfC, is not just about the KXGN page. - SVRTVDude 10:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I must disagree with your comment on the RfC, Elaragirl. This isn't an article dispute at all; I've never even seen the KXGN page before now. For me, this is an optimistic hope that editors, even established ones, can't get away with being so overtly hostile to everyone. It sounds like you've seen this too, so I hope I can convince you to not make this issue sound like it's just a petty article dispute. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 11:17, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
I imagine my comment looks rather out of place now. Your original comment on my talk page misled me into thinking you would be opposed to incivility, but I've now read your teacup page. Sorry to have bothered you, then. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 10:05, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
You said "However, no matter how incivil he is, civility for the sake of civility remains and will always be meaningless." Do you really think so? Civility is one of the 5 pillars. Why should we tolerate that behavior and not call for it to stop? Mangojuicetalk 18:08, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
The point of the Code of Conduct is simple - respect others as you want to be respected. If you don't respect others, don't expect to be respected. If you're putting on a fake veneer of civility - well, a slap from a hand in a velvet glove hurts just as well as a punch from a clenched fist. ✎ Peter M Dodge (Talk to Me) 18:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Coquettish Cabals, and the like

I didn't miss any cabal meetings, did I? Gah. The smile did improve my day, yes, but only once I located the mouth of the... gimp creature... in Image:Nuvola apps gimp.png. Yes, the smile was encouraging, but look at those eyes! Looks like it's overdosed on some sort of narcotic; appears downright voyeuristic. Please enlighten my on the nature of the WikiWub. Is it a variant of WikiLove? How rogue rouge.

Not many things are going on, I suppose... hope Wikipedia editing is making you feel better, in general. There's no better place to be sure that what you're doing is right, according to set guidelines and policies, and hell, even common sense. Rather than just trying to exist (like a nation, or MySpace), Wikipedia tries to exist well. It certainly gives an ethos not often present elsewhere. I also hope that real life is going well for you, that you're not—bored from being tired. For me, life is okay; school is interesting enough and I'm doing well (except in courses that consist solely of questions like "List are three ways life was hard for settlers? Copy from Use your textbook to answer"). I'll try to be available on IRC. See you around :) --GracenotesT § 03:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

my opinion

I just stumbled over your user page and felt the irresistible urge to offer you my opinion. I believe "Official Archenemy of the Dark Lord of Inclusion" and "User:Elaragirl/Memory" are diametrically opposed to several points of WP:NOT, e.g. this and this. Have you cleared these things with anyone familiar with policy?—Kncyu38 (talkcontribs) 03:17, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I didn't mean to upset you. I actually made this comment to find out more about the obvious little discrepancies and not-so-occasional exceptions from policy. Trying to learn. On your costs. And those of your loved ones. While, at the same time, the sun is shining out of my butt. I'm so sorry. But, as all of your userspace is viewable by anyone, maybe you should be prepared to hear comments about it every once in a while. However, have a nice day (and kindly notice that, contrary to you, I am not using dots to set off ".. nice day" in order to actually wish you a bad day or whatever you were trying to say with that).—Kncyu38 (talkcontribs) 04:00, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I believe the page should not be removed. Personal things are not categorically prohibited in wikipedia, plus, some of the deceased might be wikipedians. Wooyi 04:04, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Good point, you're probably right. —Kncyu38 (talkcontribs) 04:15, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Look, Elara, I'm sorry. All I can offer you right now is a public diss I put in the criticism section of my user page. I deserve it. —Kncyu38 (talkcontribs) 04:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

*

May I present...

The Deletionist's Barnstar
For your ever surprising wit, charm and finesse whilst calming and civilly removing all cruft and fluff from Wiki... and putting a smile on my face! Thanks! Glen 11:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar!

Thanks for the barnstar. And if anyone accuses me of being a sockpuppet, tell them that I'm not! "Just because a now-banned user taught me about Wikipedia, doesn't mean I'm a sockpuppet!"

BTW: I'm now a sysop, on the Cornish Wiktionary - see here. --sunstar nettalk 15:29, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

My comment on Hu12's RfA

Re this - I must have been half asleep last night, especially after my contradicting !votes on RfAs and removing 70 spamlinks that weren't spamlinks :). Yuser31415 (Editor review two!) 21:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

:) Yuser31415 (Editor review two!) 23:05, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Your request to for me to badger

RE: [1] Thank you for the note ;). Much as I do not interperate a decision to keep or delete an article I’ve nominated for deletion as a bad thing or take its outcome personally. A nomination of support or oppose isn't a win-loose for me either. It’s about consensus, and what’s best for the project and a chance to learn from the more experienced editors, in which areas to grow strengths. I clearly enjoy doing what I’ve been doing and have begun changes based on input from you and others. This morning I did a rewrite and cleanup on the article Market liquidity and created the article National Futures Association. I plan much more of this and build strengths in those areas I lack. However, this may not please all who oppose based on that fact alone, but hopefully it can show versatility, and the ability to adapt an learn from those of you who are truly gifted in writing articles. The tools will certainly help in the repetition of vandal fighting, but most of what vandal fighting is, includes many hours of reading through hundreds of articles, research, screening, project page discussions, checks for open proxies, AIV in some cases, tracking down sock account, and of course the many thankless strawman arguments one receives from angry spammers. From the outside it only appears be a few reverts with automatic tools (popups or vandal proof), but much more goes into the type of countervandalism I participate in than pulling the trigger on a couple bad links. I do hope you reconsider, and feel free to drop me a note any time. thanks --Hu12 00:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

My User Page!

Hello, fellow Messianic Wiki editor! I have made some significant changes to my user page, User:Noogster. Please view it and see how you like a few of the changes and sections, and tell me if you think I should add/remove anything important. Shalom and regards. Noogster 01:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

No personal attacks

(removed hilarious hypocracy) --ElaragirlTalk|Count 22:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

User:Elaragirl/Teacup

Holy fucking shit! That's my kind of editor!

/me is going to have some fun with this...

And I can be a real bastard sonofabitch if I want to as well.

I was on a razor's edge deciding whether I loved you for your irreverence and general un-Wikipediance or hated you for it. I decided the former. ~ Flameviper 19:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

User was banned for this post

Thanks....

I'll respond to friends of course... :) - Spawn Man 22:33, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, just read your teacup thingy. Pretty cool. I like the way you say it like it is. Too bad you're not a gang bang ;) I just love older woman making irresponsible & inappropriate remarks on my talk page that make me feel violated... ;) Anyway, having a kind of bad day on here right now, & I'm thankful you left that message on my talk. C ya around... :) Spawn Man 23:20, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Wanna be wikifriends? I've lost 2 this month & was wondering if I make that up by gaining one. I'm not really as bad as everyone says I am. Besides, I saw your "Memories" subpage & figured you might like a new friend. Geez though, how come so many people you know have died? I only have hadaround 2 people ever die on me, & they weren't even close friends. You don't have to talk about it though. Plus, I don't know where you live, but the great ball of fire is covered by clouds where I am... :) Have a great day! Spawn Man 23:34, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I wish I knew the answers, or perhaps I do. I knew a lot of people when I was a mental health professional, doing counciling and the like. That's not even all the people I know who died, just the ones who were the very closest to me.
As far as friendships go, I consider lots of people my friend. I think that it's always important to remember there's a living human being on the other end of the edits. I don't let myself get worked up over Wikipedia too much, but do remember who nominated you for admin. You *are* my friend. --ElaragirlTalk|Count 23:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Seems a childish thing to do, but I'll add you to my friends list. I had to change that to "Wiki" friends rather than just friends in case you got the wrong idea lol. And of course I remember who nominated me for RfA. Spectre wasn't it? Just kidding lol.... Anyway, so you were a mental health proffesional? How old are you, I thought you were much younger. Anyway, I'm trying to get some editing donre, but keep on getting pulled away by this whole Riana RfA thing... Thanks, :) Spawn Man 23:44, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
(dryly) I'm older than 30 but not yet 40. And yes. I was a licenced MHP focusing on aberrant mental behaviors, and have a bachelor degree in interdisciplinary studies (English and education) and a masters in psychology (specifically, abnormal psychology). I worked with several organizations and the state for several years until .. events .. made me quit and move along. --ElaragirlTalk|Count 23:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, there's nothing bad about being older. The best thing about Wikipedia is that you act at your mental age, & people (should) judge you on your contributions & efforts to the 'Pedia, not how old you are. When people thought I was younger, everytime I got involved in a discussion they discounted me cause they said I was too young to understand. So I told them I was older & hey presto, they (hopefully) respected me. This message has made no sense whatsoever so far lol. Anyway, humans are horrible creatures anyway, in my view. I'm smart for example, but everyone focusses on looks. I'm not horrible looking, but I'm not the shiniest piece of china in the store if you get what I mean. I can contribute so much to this world, but I'm just getting very frustrated in life. Ah well... I bet I've bored you to death, so I'll go off & do some editing (hopefully). C you around EG. :) Spawn Man 00:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

RE: DGAF

I know! If we made it into policy, I think we'd solve everything. This, and DBAD, and we are set. It really changed everything; we can both testify to the dick I was over Esperanza, and I gotta say that this policy is easily 90% responsible for helping me, with a wikibreak helping and, if it's not overly forward, your own outlook also helped. I'm doing ok, I'm a bit worried about Dev, she seems a bit upset. There's been more Esperanza talk...after the first few comments she went on wikibreak. She should be back in full force soon enough, I hope. DoomsDay349 04:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Not fair

This is patently unfair. There are indefbanned trolls and plenty of them edit ghoulhouse: therefore to assume that IP trolling is the work of the ghouls is a personal attack? Oooh, serious fucking business. That isn't a personal attack either, I'm just chatting to my friend Elara.

BTW, I just flat loved the "and part is probably the sort of "take up for the wimmenz" things that some cultures have" comment, not least because it's just completely accurate. I often have stop and think for a sec as to whether that is clouding my better judgment. Rather sexist, I know, but it's somewhat ingrained by now. Bad Moreschi! Oh, never mind, too later. Cheers, Moreschi Request a recording? 09:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Ooh...

Ooh, the Barnstar of Defiance! Thankyou, I am honoured. :D I have to say, I think I'm more deletey than includey - though in the namespace where it counts I'm a disgusting liberal. But I'm drafting more MfD noms, so maybe I'll end up Darth Dev one day... Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 09:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

"Darth Dev"...lol. I wait, for one, in great expectation! Cheers, Moreschi Request a recording? 09:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey

Hey, ta very much for the barnstar! =)

LibLord 10:59, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Laughs

This Barnstar of Good Humor is awarded to Elaragirl for providing a good laugh with "No! We must say that Esperanza was eeeeeevil! ... oh, wait, sorry. (laughs)" Thanks! -- Natalya 17:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


How do I become a part of the Deletionist Cabal?

Self-explanatory question . . . Real96 09:10, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

First you need to find out where the proper place to ask that question is. (impish smile)--ElaragirlTalk|Count 17:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I'll probably sign up once I submit twenty or so articles for AfD. Or, when I get my Wiki Philosophy set, because it is in jangles now. Real96 03:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Rule one of the deletionist cabal: you do not talk about the deletionist cabal :P Will (talk to me) 16:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Hmm...I guess I am violating Elara is not a gangbang, am I? :-) Real96 23:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

seeking feedback on Guigemar

Hi Elara, over the weekend I've done a bit of work on Guigemar, the first of The Lais of Marie de France, and I would appreciate your input. Primarily I'm concerned that the plot summary may be too long, because the original poem is only 886 lines, and I didn't want to end up with a plot summary that was longer than the original poem. At the same time, there are a number of plot developments that I wanted to include in the description, like the magic boat. Supernatural elements are a major part of these works, and I don't think they should be cut out of the descriptions. Thanks!

P.S. Please don't nominate it for deletion. :) --Kyoko 23:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Kyoko, I don't think you should delete it. Have you seen Robert Frost's poems before? For example, "The Road Not Taken." Poetry can have many different and ambiguous meanings and they should be explained to the viewer as well as sufficiently analyzed. Real96 03:31, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure I understand. I don't plan on deleting the article after creating and expanding it. Do you mean that the summary should remain as long as it is? FYI, further discussion of the article should probably go to Talk:Guigemar. I'm just putting this one reply here so Elaragirl can see what's going on, if she's interested. Thanks for your input. --Kyoko 04:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
It would be better, Kyoko, to put the text of the poetry along with the analysis in order to let the viewers see for themselves what is going on, rather than have a third party telling them what the poem is about. It should fall under some copyright expiration regarding works, since it has been more than 75 years since the publication. Real96 15:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

(reduce indent) I have copied (not moved) this conversation to the specific talk page. Real96 15:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

What the hey?

What was up with Flameviper getting banned? Was he attacking you? That seems a shame, unless I'm mistaking him for someone else, Flameviper was a big community guy. DoomsDay349 02:49, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Ah well. Guess I wasn't as caught up as I thought I was. DoomsDay349 21:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Layout, PTSD

Yes, I took your layout, and I like it!

Concerning PTSD: I had a closer look yesterday at the users DPeterson and RalphLender, because I was fascinated at how similar they were. At first I thought they must be good friends, in a relationship where one imitates the other, but I came to the conclusion that they are the same person using two different nicks. I then found out via their talkpages that another user, shotwell, had suspected this before and there was mediation or some sort of formal dispute resolution about this. There are not only two of them but seven alter egos, there is a list [here.] A formal procedure to break the privacy of the user and look up his IPs (A Request for Checkuser) was declined. Apparently sockpuppets that have managed to survive more than 100 edits are immune to this procedure. I believe user shotwell is right, these are all sockpuppets. Not only DPeterson and RalphLender but also three others, MarkWood, AWeidman and JonesRD were active on PTSD-talk. Under these circumstances I believe a poll makes no sense. --Grace E. Dougle 17:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Happy Valentines Day

It's been a little over a week since my ill-conceived campaign to have your template deleted. I just wanted to come back and say I appreciate your patience and that I think you do a super job here and that I hope our interactions in the future can be pleasant. Thanks, Jerry lavoie 18:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Hiya

Hi Elaragirl.... hope ya OK, not able to edit much for now, semi-wikibreak.

Anyhow, next time I have an RFA, if anyone accuses me of being a sockpuppet, see my userpage, I've explained my user history for all to see... --sunstar nettalk 00:08, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Happy Chinese New Year!

Happy Chinese New Year, Elara! Real96 03:27, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Ditto, and good luck with your new job! --Kyoko 03:38, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Straw poll on Srebrenica massacre

As a result of persistent edit warring on Srebrenica massacre, I have proposed that a straw poll be taken regarding one of the issues involved—namely, how to title the section currently named "Alternative views". This will help us to determine whether there is a consensus on what to title this section, or at least a consensus on what not to call it. The straw poll can be found at Talk:Srebrenica_massacre#Straw poll on "Alternative views" section. I have posted this announcement to each of the 19 users who have made multiple edits to Srebrenica massacre this year. —Psychonaut 13:48, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Deletionist sillyness

User:Sceptre/Deletionist cabal. Enjoy. :P (although I'm probably more of a mergist. Seriously, do we need articles about songs with no notability at all except for the fact that they were on a Pink Floyd album or characters from a famous legendarium?) Will (Speak to Me/Breathe)(Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash) 03:44, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

While I'm awake and being rather silly...
Roses are red.
My friend is called Tara.
You better run or
You'll get deleted by 'lara.
:D Will (Speak to Me/Breathe)(Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash) 04:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
This is for your words of support on his talk page regarding what happened to him - the definition of what this barnstar means, "being nice without being asked". Thanks. Will (Speak to Me/Breathe)(Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash) 10:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Lara, I hope you're well and that your new job isn't making you too stressed. Congratulations, BTW. I've been more active on Simple Wikipedia than here, lately. I just thought I'd let you know. I'm still working on the various lais, but my attention tends to stray and it slows me down. Thanks for your support of Cliff. --Kyoko 21:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

I'm glad to hear you've got a new job, too! Hope it's all going smoothly. Haven't seen you around a lot lately, so I guess that means you're pretty busy :) Take care, and all the best, – riana_dzasta 07:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

you've got mail

Hi there, I forgot to tell you that I sent you mail yesterday. I'm not trying to rush you to respond, I just want to make sure that you got it. I hope you're doing well. --Kyoko 02:56, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I will try to get a response back to you today, OK? --Kyoko 13:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Elaramail.png)

Utter waste of time. Remade the image, someone who was too busy to bother reading tagged it as fairuse when it wasn't. Now I just had to make the ENTIRE thing from scratch and not make a derivative of Gmail's logo. You would think people had better things to do with their time. --ElaragirlTalk|Count 01:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey...

I hope all is well, or at least tolerable with you. I noticed you've let this talk page grow to un-Elaragirl lengths, so it made me a little concerned.  :-) Send me an email if you'd like. —Doug Bell talk 05:10, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I hope you're okay, Elara. You are in my prayers. Real96 06:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
And the userpage has been reduced to un-Elaragirl lengths :) E-mail's open, if you need to spill. – riana_dzasta 09:39, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey Elara

Email

FYI, I've sent you an email. JoshuaZ 16:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)