User talk:EggRoll97/Archive 5
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Filter 812 modification
Hi EggRoll, don't know if you've seen it, but I pinged you for a filter change at EFR. Thanks Nobody (talk) 13:48, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @1AmNobody24: Yep. Noticed it at the time, just didn't have a chance to respond in the moment. I've implemented it now and noted as such on EFR. EggRoll97 (talk) 15:43, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Admin election advice
Hi EggRoll, while looking through the admin election candidates, I saw your name. Your work in areas like edit filtering is truly appreciated, so I am inclined to support later this month. However, it is my understanding that you have never created a mainspace article besides shifting existing content after move requests and reviving edits erroneously blocked by a filter. Similarly, you have never edited a mainspace article at least 10 times and mostly edit them to revert vandalism. While these are valued efforts, I agree with User:Ritchie333/Why admins should create content that all candidates should have first-hand experience with article creation. I am not a stickler to the idea that admins should have at least 10K edits, but without significant article writing, this issue may sink your candidacy.
You are probably a specialist in at least one area that could have new articles created or existing articles improved, but if you want topic ideas, consider WP:WikiProject Women in Red/Redlist index, which lists redlinks for women deserving of articles sorted by various characteristics. Given the time between now and the start of discussion/voting, I think you still have an opportunity to really strengthen your candidacy! ViridianPenguin 🐧 ( 💬 ) 18:03, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Seen and appreciated. Thanks! (Side note: I did create Contraband Police, though it needs some work..) EggRoll97 (talk) 19:17, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
What's with edit filter 1,298?
So, I've noticed that my AbuseFilter log is just absolutely flooded with entries because of this filter. In my case it's pretty misleading because I use either WP:CAPRICORN or, lately, the page curation tool to add tags manually afterwards, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who does so so that they don't have to remember every type of rcat. Are you aware of anybody who actually looks for redirects to categorize via this filter? It seems like a very inefficient way to go about doing so, and I'm not sure that this filter is actually useful, so I thought I'd reach out about it. I imagine a query of some kind, using relevant criteria, would be much more efficient and would be less likely to clog up the Special:AbuseLog. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:04, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: It was originally requested at EFR, and was intended to catch redirects like Chard Parkway railway station, Ngog, Gerónimo, Douglas Mahonga Buti, and similar. Your point is valid though that it also unintentionally catches redirects where Capricorn and similar tools are used to categorize the redirect after the original redirect edit. Looking through the AbuseLog, I don't think it's been used very much, though it may be best to check with User:Geardona and others in the discussion about current usage. Personally it seems not to have ended up used for the original intent, since a lot of old redirects remain uncategorized, so I don't have any objections to disabling if no one else does. EggRoll97 (talk) 19:30, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks EggRoll. Reading the discussion, I understand Geardona's frustration, but at the end of the day, it's entirely optional to add rcats. I felt that way when I first started patrolling redirects as well, but I think the filter may imply it's a worse sin than it is, despite the intention to use said filter to find redirects to categorize. Feels like there's gotta be a better way though if the intention is to lower the number of uncategorized redirects. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:42, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: Given it's attracted a lot of participation on the original creation (not well-advertised, but seemed to get a significant amount of participation for a filter creation), I'd probably say a short post to WP:EFN would work for disabling it, and I'll toss the switch after a couple days if no one has anything to say about it. EggRoll97 (talk) 19:49, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks EggRoll. Reading the discussion, I understand Geardona's frustration, but at the end of the day, it's entirely optional to add rcats. I felt that way when I first started patrolling redirects as well, but I think the filter may imply it's a worse sin than it is, despite the intention to use said filter to find redirects to categorize. Feels like there's gotta be a better way though if the intention is to lower the number of uncategorized redirects. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:42, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Thanks! EggRoll97 (talk) 21:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
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I voted for you!
I voted for you. I don't share the emphasis on content creation that seems to run through a lot of the comments about admin selection. We can't create content without people running the system, behind the scenes, and who don't get much recognition. When I read your candidate statement, I said to myself "What the heck is edit filtering?" So I followed the links you gave about your activity and thought "this is something I didn't know about, and it's important". We need admins who know about the stuff that most of us don't know about! Good luck! 🤞 Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! EggRoll97 (talk) 20:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry it didn't work out. Please keep trying. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 01:35, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
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Addition to filter 1318
Hi EggRoll, could you add namespace 10 (template) to the filter? It would stop edits like this one. I went through a few thousand of edits to test for false positives and haven't found any yet. Thanks Nobody (talk) 15:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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