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Nomination of Stefan Ćertić for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Stefan Ćertić is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stefan Ćertić until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. DGG ( talk ) 10:02, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DGG Thanks for pointing towards the problem with the article. I did translation improvements and tried to cite statements properly. Since article discussion is getting re-listed, I have impression discussion is waiting for your decision. Would it be possible for you to review the current state and reconsider? (Improving notability or similar tag maybe?). I would be glad to hear your inputs prior to translation of any other full length articles from scratch, especially my primary interest being computer security related articles translation. Thanks in Advance, Ed. --Edwmgs (talk) 04:52, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look tomorrow. DGG ( talk ) 05:46, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks DGG. I understand your reason to flag my article and start a discussion, however, votes such as "Delete as clear business advertising." are absolute nonsense. What kind of business is exactly advertised? That could be written only by someone who did not read article at all, but let's use the power and vote to put down someone's hard work. This is why we have "deletionism". I am not going to argue with anyone there, just put my opinion, however if the purpose of those editors are to call each other "Hey let's bring someone's work down" then wiki is not what it represent or it should be. This is probably my last edit. If someone spend hours in translation then make every reasonable effort to fix and properly reference article, at least - it deserve a honest vote. "clear business advert" is definitely not. It's copy-paste over someone's hard work. Again, thanks for taking your time to review my page first time, and all the contribution you made for Wikipedia. But this place obviously have a ton of "know it all" guys that i don't want to be part of. Take a look at this article written by someone that i wanted to fix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogoljub_Kari%C4%87 Well, if that article has an "improve" flag with single source from the official website, but there is a problem with this one, i really don't know what to say. --Edwmgs (talk) 01:02, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If, as seems possible, you have some connection with the subject, you will find it much more satisfactory to write on things you know about, but have no direct involvement. When there is conflict of interest, people are not good judges, and cvan easily reinterpret criticism as insult. DGG ( talk ) 03:33, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, i explained my correlation with the subject on deletion page just to make it clear to everyone in discussion that there is a connection to some extent. (Using the software + extending it make some connection) but in my opinion not a conflict of interest. Deeply appreciate your inputs! No matter if i agree or not, there is a clear explanation why you think the way you think, and that can't be ground for any insult. (As opposed to a copy-paste vote, it's insulting with or without any form of interest conflict). Thanks for the input again. Really appreciated your time. --Edwmgs (talk) 04:17, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Stefan Ćertić

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A tag has been placed on Stefan Ćertić, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion debate, such as at articles for deletion. Under the specified criteria, where a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after debate, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. sami ^talk 10:47, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Samee Sure i am putting into contest. The AFD was closed in the middle of debate with open questions and without closing arguments. That's not the way to deal with someone's hard work. The debate is there for a reason, and questions asked are asked for a reason. The article rescue list inclusion was for a reason. It's against WP practices to just delete in the middle of debate. --Edwmgs (talk) 10:57, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Check deletion review forum. sami ^talk 11:00, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Samee Let me see if some of administrators will do that and put a tag! I am not the work force for someone's deletionism and SADISM. No one is trying to improve anything just going around and deleting hard work. Not taking further action. I am not the only one here. The article is changed from the ground during the afd. Not doing anything further as long as this sadistic behaviour continues. Others can visit your link too, if anyone want'ts to actually do something. Or we are all too smart and all that left is to delete unnecessarily knowledge. I am so damn ...... off!

Alternatively, you can move the article to draft and submit it for WP:AfC. sami ^talk 11:18, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Samee Thanks, i have included an article into Article for creation, however, i am not going to move it into draft, due to a simple fact that the quality of the article is above 20% of existing articles. This needs and requires administrator's attention, - normal administrators - not the guys who created nothing for a year - but deleted 100 articles for a 'good morning'. At the end, it would be only Albert Einstein to remain!

Samee Took an 'admin justice' into own hand and did what i think it should be done. Feel free to ban me if you think i am wrong. --Edwmgs (talk) 11:46, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the silent support Samee Appreciated :) But here is the guy that's after me for a month. What happens now, he pickup the phone and call few other guys without a life with great news of something to be deleted. Then few of them argue about about non-notability. Then i add a research paper from American Research Association - then it's cited only 5 times and not notable. Then i find a subject is leading research at the University - then that possition is mid size and not notable again. Then, the last argument was that subject asked page to be deleted years ago. I invite subject to participate, the subject keeps neutral position with strong support against deletionism, and the debate closes just like that! Yes i am talking about you JJMC89 and your fellow destroyers. Edwmgs (talk) 15:32, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

February 2017

Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself, as you did with Stefan Ćertić. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion, which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. — JJMC89 (T·C) 15:06, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

JJMC89 Would you like my old hard drives? You can play a funny game of zeroing them. It's a fun game of writing bytes and then deleting them. I'm sure you will get addicted! The tag has been removed for a reason, and the proper tag has been put for a reason. But feel free to go around and make your justice. You are doing an important job of preventing too much knowledge to accumulate :)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stefan Certic (March 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Deleted for clear advertising including by a community-closed debate, where it was shown any changes were still unconvincing to our policies; the current page simply still mirrors what he advertises about himself.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Stefan Certic and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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SwisterTwister talk 04:23, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Please get back to me before you go. I want to try and help. Skamecrazy123 (talk) 10:40, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Skamecrazy123 (talk) 17:47, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Stefan Certic

Hello, Edwmgs. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Stefan Certic".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. SwisterTwister talk 18:18, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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