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5 Million: We celebrate your contribution

	We couldn't have done it without you
	Well, maybe. But the encyclopedia would not be as good. Celebrate Smallbones(smalltalk) 13:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so much! Gracious, it's hard to believe there are now 5,000,000 articles on Wikipedia. This could not have come at a better time. I'm kind of getting a singular lack of appreciation at a Wikia where I frequently contribute. This reassures me that there are those who can give encouragement as well as criticism, doncha know. Again, much gratitude for this, and onward and upward!  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Repel All Boarders ‖ 18:10, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Note

Hey, old pal, thanks for the alert. Let's keep an eye on it for a while. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 08:12, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Yep, just when you thought it was safe... :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - General Health ‖ 08:14, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Florida libraries - I started a discussion at ANI regarding the concern you pointed out to me

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Florida libraries. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 16:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Infoboxes

Re: Amy Acker

On her Infobox; why are children excluded is they are listed in People Magazine, especially since the Infobox person template has;

| spouse = | partner = | children = | parents = | relatives =

Savolya (talk) 00:31, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Only notable children should be listed in the infobox. It is a privacy issue. The names should not be mentioned in bio articles either for teh same reason. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 18:56, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

GWR Popups

Hi, can you please explain what you meant me using pop ups in the gwr Pullman part of the wiki page? many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devonexpressbus (talk • contribs) 20:52, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

What do you mean and can you please sign your posts with four tildes (~). Thanks. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 20:55, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

MarnetteD|Talk is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec15b}} to your friends' talk pages.

Make sure to click on both pictures to see them full size Ebyabe as they will give you a chuckle. May your 2016 be full of joy and special times. MarnetteD|Talk 03:46, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

You too as well! Thanks.  ;) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Welfare State ‖ 17:20, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Doctor Who regeneration order

Hi. I noticed that you reverted my edits that restored the original order of the Doctor's regenerations. The list was in that order as that showed the canonical order of his regenerations in line with his personal timeline, which is what the series follows. The list also showed what number each incarnation was in the cycle as the numbers get a bit mixed due to the inclusion of the War Doctor and the two regenerations of the Tenth Doctor. Please explain your reasoning behind your edits. Thanks. – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 02:19, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
@AlexTheWhovian

Not sure why I was pinged, but Nick has a point. Events that occur in-universe should be listed in chronological order as they happened in-universe (such as this), and real-life events should be listed in chronological order as they happened in real-life (e.g. a new actor taking over the lead role). This case falls under the former. Alex|The|Whovian 02:27, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

I pinged Alex as I needed a third party to give their opinion, and from what I have seen, Alex is quite knowledgeable about Doctor Who. I will make the edits now, and if anybody has any concerns, they can return here for further discussion. – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 06:04, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Fair point; I've got this page on my watch list. (I've already made the edits too. ;)) Alex|The|Whovian 06:13, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

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Hello

Hey Ebyabe. You made some edits on the page Lake Bluff and I find them unconstructive. Phillip Danforth Armour III is a really large part of Lake Bluff's history. There was a link to a history article. I reversed your edits but feel free to reverse them back. Thanks. FixCop (talk) 14:35, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Elsa Peretti page

Hello, I am writing the page on behalf of the legal representatives of Elsa Peretti. Please inform us as to what parts you find not neutral. If there is a way to contact you directly via email, please tell me, thank you.NPF-webmaster (talk) 10:46, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Nina Dobrev page

Hi sorry to bother you. i just dont understand why it doesnt say on her page in her personal life section. that shes dating actor austin stowell. not only are there pictures of them together. and kissing. but on his page here on the wikipedia. it says hes dating her. so why would it be on his page that they are dating but not hers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.35.204 (talk • contribs) 18:04, February 9, 2016‎

Information updated on her page. However, it may still get deleted, as many people here consider celebrity dating history as not particularly notable. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 23:20, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Pop ups?

I think you have a virus on your computer that is causing so many links to appear. You have been reverting many edits using the excuse "using popups", admittedly I did not go through all of them, but I haven't found a single one that used any sort of script. Sure, some of them needed reverted for other reasons, but not the reason you gave. Undo if you want. Leave the reason blank if you want. But don't give bogus excuses. 2601:983:8001:3540:6483:87EC:B9B7:209B (talk) 12:08, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

You appear to have left this message on the wrong user's talk page. Thank you. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Repel All Boarders ‖ 19:47, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

It is all over your contribution list.

"dated 2016-02-12 02:10:56 by 64.121.48.96 using popups, unexplained change)

08:53, 12 February 2016 (diff | hist) . . (+130)‎ . . High School Musical (soundtrack) ‎ (Revert to revision 704240566 dated 2016-02-10 12:06:39 by Topbanana using popups) (current)

08:04, 12 February 2016 (diff | hist) . . (+2)‎ . . Hayden Panettiere ‎ (Revert to revision 704550679 dated 2016-02-12 04:38:09 by Cindylover1969 using popups)

07:37, 12 February 2016 (diff | hist) . . (-2)‎ . . Joe Manganiello ‎ (Revert to revision 703317861 dated 2016-02-04 20:10:26 by KasparBot using popups)

07:30, 12 February 2016 (diff | hist) . . (-34)‎ . . Britt Robertson ‎ (Revert to revision 704452906 dated 2016-02-11 18:07:16 by Jdeigh99 using popups, unsourced) (current)

08:50, 11 February 2016 (diff | hist) . . (0)‎ . . Dove Cameron ‎ (Revert to revision 704333293 dated 2016-02-10 23:44:31 by Geraldo Perez using popups) (current)"

So, no, it is very much being left on the correct person's page.2601:983:8001:3540:6483:87EC:B9B7:209B (talk) 20:19, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) IP try reading Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. Pop-ups is used by 100s of not 1000s of editors and its use is not a "bogus excuse" - try learning something before posting attacks on an editors talk page. MarnetteD|Talk 20:27, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Ebyabe. I hope that you have an enjoyable weekend in spite of this nonsense. MarnetteD|Talk 20:29, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, MarnetteD. I plan to do so. Cheers. ;) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 07:03, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Hotel Kirkwood

Hello Ebyabe....my name is Kate and I the building manager at The Kirkwood. I would appreciate if you would quit deleting my edits. I am learning the process for entering information. I used Sandbox and am cutting and pasting from there. I realize some mistakes will be made but that is where I will have editors to correct needed areas. The current information on this page is out of date. This would be most appreciated. Thank-you for contacting me. Kate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capitalcityrealty (talk • contribs) February 16, 2016

After rechecking your changes to the Hotel Kirkwood article, I have done some tweaks. However, please note that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a promotional site. Thus, any such additions will be undone. The information you provided, as well as your username, also indicates you have a conflict of interest. Please read our guidelines on conflicts of interest for more information.

All communications should and will be conducted publicly on Wikipedia. I am thus deleting your phone number, which is also a privacy issue. Thank you. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 21:34, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

For your perusal

Hello E. This edit summary is a hoot since "the other users editing here" were socks of the same person. A couple article were page protected this time so that might help but  The nystical Magic 8-Ball says: that a return is likely. Thanks for your vigilance and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 00:33, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Sadly I agree. We'll continue to watch. Btw, the commenter on my TARDIS wikia page apologized. After he (and an IP) deleted his initial comment and my response. I restored them, as it's my talk page there. Don't know what he is hoping to achieve. But if it's intimidation, far better have tried that and failed with me. Heck, I think I even p***ed off Vincent D'Onofrio about his girlfriend/wife and ex-girlfriend/wife. I laugh in the face of intimidation. Ha. And again, ha.  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 07:32, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Well done on your part. Have a pleasant weekend E. MarnetteD|Talk 15:35, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

@MarnetteD:, it gets better. Check out the little goblin's latest threats. Of course he is too cowardly to respond here. Cheers! --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 05:51, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Oh good grief. Wait - if all my batteries get arrested how will I operate my remote controls? :-) Does that wikia have a "No legal threats" policy? One reason I think that he is having to be a jerk there is that his blocks here now come with removal of talk page access before he starts ranting and raving. Ah well back to regular editing. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:11, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Edit Waring

Cease your edit warring at once I will alert the authorities! Sleepwalk7 (talk) 04:04, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Please, alert the authorities. I think you will find that you will be the one blocked, not me. Especially since you are likely a sockpuppet as well. And do please post on the correct page, there's a good chap. User:Mann jess has a new account, and hasn't used that one in months. Have a lovely evening. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - General Health ‖ 04:46, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Never mind, I've alerted the authorities about my eldritchly horrible behaviour. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 04:50, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Ribault Inn Club

History

Hi there. I am an event manager at The Ribault Club on Fort George Island, FL. The Wikipedia articled entitled "Ribault Inn Club" has autogenerated a Facebook page about our venue. We have a verified Facebook Page "The Ribault Club" but the unofficial auto-generated site "Ribault Inn Club" is causing confusion and detracting from our main site. Facebook won't let me merge the two sites because the names are different. Can you change the title of your Wikipage to "The Ribault Club", as it is properly named? We would really appreciate it! Chelcacc (talk) 12:21, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

britt robertson

I am so sorry if I done anything wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by Сяра (talk • contribs) 13:41, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Just don't upload any pics that you haven't taken yourself. That's probably best. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 05:52, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		For all your help on getting WP:NRHP 75% Illustrated (spread it around!) Smallbones(smalltalk) 02:40, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Oops

Ebyabe – in trying to rollback Eric Balfour back to an earlier (uncorrupted) version, I accidentally 'Twinkle rollbacked' your most recent edit there (and it was clear to me that your edit was entirely correct). Apologies! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:05, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

That's cool. No harm no foul.  ;) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 04:26, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

W. A. Knight / Greenleaf & Crosby Building

W. A. Knight Building redirects to Greenleaf & Crosby Building, but now we have determined that they are different buildings. However, the Knight Building NRHP info is in the Greenleaf article. Don't we need to make an article for the Knight building and move the NRHP stuff over there? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 03:56, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes. It'd be good if it could be less stubby than the current one. I created that article 10 years ago, before the NRHP project here existed. Now we have standards and stuff. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 05:27, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

IP editing at Jeffrey Jones

Hi Ebyabe, at User talk:213.205.252.104 you addressed some edits that the IP editor made at Keith Bristow and Leslie Grantham. The same IP editor has made unsubstantiated and inappropriate edits at Jeffrey Jones, which I reverted and then he restored. Can you help me avoid an edit war and look into those edits? Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 22:46, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Someone else has reverted the edits. If they resume, it can be dealt with. I've put it on my watch list. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Welfare State ‖ 05:07, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

That's who he is

I got your message. I just reveled who that editor really was. KingTimmy (talk) 17:11, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

@KingTimmy:, it doesn't matter. You don't edit other userpages here. Would you like someone to do something similar to you? Cheers. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 17:26, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Also (a) Isambard Kingdom Brunel is dead and (b) he already has an existing article. So make productive contributions to articles instead and your time here will go much better. Cheers. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Repel All Boarders ‖ 17:52, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi E. anytime I hear a mention of IKB I remember this gem of a short film Great (1975 film). Sadly it was pulled from youtube a couple years ago. If you ever get a chance to see it I think it will make you smile. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 18:10, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for that M. When I hear his name though, I think of Reckless Engineering.  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Health and Welfare ‖ 18:51, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I did the "New Adventures" and "Missing Adventures" books for years but lost track of them when my local book store stopped carrying new releases. This one looks interesting so I will have to track it down. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 19:23, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Be advised it's part of a story arc that starts with Time Zero. Actually it goes further back than that if you want to learn more about Sabbath. I think you can find most of the BBC and Virgin Adventures online in pdf form. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 19:32, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Yep, thought so.  :) I was using these when I was doing more editing at the Tardis Wikia. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 19:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Good to know. Thanks for cluing me in to this - and other things as well :-) MarnetteD|Talk 19:36, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

In case you're wondering

I maintain complete lists of all NR sites in Notepad format on my hard drive: site name and location, plus little indicators for NHLs and sites that I've photographed. Over the past year, I've slowly been adding coords to these files, and since I downloaded the data for these files several years ago, discrepancies between my lists and the current List of RHPs in Place lists allow me to check for incorrect names in the online lists. Nyttend (talk) 18:05, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm glad you're doing these fixes. I know I did the Florida lists ages ago, and I'm not surprised some errors may have crept in here and there. Continue with the good work!  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 04:43, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Pinellas County NRHP sites

I didn't realize how many articles on sites on the National Register of Historic Places in Pinellas County, Florida are missing NRHP navboxes. Did you? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 15:01, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm not surprised. I created most of the stubs years ago, before the Project existed. I think I used AWB to add navboxes, but I probably missed some. Thanks for adding them where you've been.  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 15:04, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

That IP address

Hi Ebyabe! I saw that you removed the edit by the IP on my talk page here. I was a bit confused by this IP's message. Do you know what the user was talking about? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:53, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

@Oshwah:, literally nothing. It was obvious vandalism. And they've done it again. *heavy sigh* --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Repel All Boarders ‖ 05:55, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

I figured. Thanks for removing it. Much appreciated, Ebyabe. :-D ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:04, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

...Aaaand thanks again! lol ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:05, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Why soitenly!  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - General Health ‖ 06:05, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Old time memories

Hi E. Your D84 mention brought back the following memory. Back in the late 80s I went to see Gregory de Polnay, Billie Whitelaw and another gentleman (whose name has disappeared from my memory banks) perform a series of readings at the theater on the Denver University campus. It was fun to see GdP in the flesh and he has one silky smooth voice. It was a nice evening and I am glad to remember it. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 01:40, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

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Talk:Doctor Who (series 9)#Episode Groupings

I would like to invite you to contribute to a discussion on whether or not "The Girl Who Died" and "The Woman Who Lived" and "Heaven Sent" and "Hell Bent" are two-parters. Over the course of 3 weeks and 2 discussions, only 3 editors including myself have contributed, so it would be a great help if you could take the time to contribute. Fan4Life (talk) 20:11, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Consensus already exists.

But the consensus already existed: it's called the Manual of Style. No good reason to differ from that. 2600:100E:B10D:8DBC:D0C0:2563:7E20:FE9 (talk) 03:32, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

And yet multiple users are reverting you, and your various IPs are getting blocked. So mayhaps your understanding of the MoS is flawed. Why not take some time away from Wikipedia, go see a movie, ride a merry-go-round, do some knitting. Happy Thanksgiving. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 04:53, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Btw, when you are blocked, and you edit from a different IP, that is sockpuppetry. That means ALL your edits can and will be reverted. Even the correct ones. Your own behaviour has tainted all your edits. If you can find a mirror, you might wish to examine it to see who is responsible for what is happening. Happy St. Crispin's Day. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 05:05, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Ebyabe I just want to say thank you for being so supportive through this whole mess. I was the one who engaged the edit warrior, this is partially my fault, & you didn't have to help me, but you did and I really appreciate the kindness. Sro23 (talk) 06:33, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

But of course! :) I don't know why, but sockpuppetry particularly irritates me, so I'm happy to jump in and help. Cheers! --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 07:49, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Paul Frees

I noticed you thanked me for my revert on Paul Frees (here: diff)...but then you reverted my revert - with the comment "Rv further, to last clean version." (here: diff). Is that what you intended to do? Sign me "confused in Atlanta". --Krelnik (talk) 18:06, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Apologies for the confusion. There was an unsourced and uncredited role added before the edits you reverted, so I was removing that too. But I try to thank people for doing the right thing on Wikipedia, which you did. And sign me "not as soggy as I thought in Florida". :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 18:26, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

I think you mean this edit diff right? That's the problem - you didn't remove it. Look at the history and the current state of the article and you'll see my confusion. (FYI Ugly Dachsund is also mentioned elsewhere in the article, so if it needs to be removed it will require an edit). --Krelnik (talk) 18:52, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Ah, my bad. I probably hit 'rollback' instead of 'undo'. Fixed it, I think, but please feel free to check to make sure. As far as the rest, a lot of this article could be trimmed due to lack of sourcing. However, since I don't have the books used for reference, I'm not sure which is covered and which isn't. Plus this article is a favorite target of a vandal who uses different IPs and usernames. Check the edit history and you'll see what I mean. If you want to remove some of the unreferenced stuff, go for it. Cheers. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 19:54, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

'Appam' edits

The 'Appam' page has a lot of religious connotations which were added after the recent announcement by Google to name its upcoming Android version after an Indian delicacy. This looks like a concerted effort from a community to associate this dish (Appam in general and Neyyappam in particular) to associate it with a particular community, which is totally unacceptable. This so-called historian named Achaya make a lot of such claims that are baseless. Please don;t take that as the be-all and end-all of the food history of India. I am removing those religious connotations again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiguywho (talk • contribs) 07:38, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Do not remove sourced content. If you disagree with what is present, provide reliable sources to refute it. Also, discuss your changes on the article talk page, not on user pages. Continuing to remove sourced content will likely get you blocked. And if you are the IP 129.137.165.248 or associated with them, that is considered sockpuppetry and/or meatpuppetry, which can also get you blocked. Thank you. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - State of the Union ‖ 07:43, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

User Wikiguywho is continuously removing sourced content from the pages Appam and Neyyappam. Please do the needful and rescue the articles. 165.225.104.75 (talk) 10:32, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Please report your concerns to the appropriate noticeboard. Probably the edit-warring one. Thanks. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 18:47, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Kevin Sorbo Mythica Godslayer

Hi, Ebyabe, just to inform you, the Godslayer film is in post-production, and its Kickstarter fully funded (even having 10 days left now). Thanks!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5327922/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/arrowstorm/mythica-5-the-godslayer/?ref=Website

Ok, then just add the kickstarter link as a ref, since imdb is not considered a reliable source. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 02:44, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Sock of Who R U?

Hi No disrespect intended but I took the liberty of reverting and marking as vandalism three edits by yet another sock of User:Who R U?. Regards,   Aloha27  talk  12:13, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

@Aloha27: I appreciate your help. I often wonder if vandals like that really think they are right and the rules don't apply to them, or they are just being a**h***s. Ultimately, the effect is the same. Cheers! --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - General Health ‖ 18:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)