User talk:Dzackgarza

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Thanks for creating Coxeter fan. It seems the first sentence is lifted directly from the given source, with no rewording or paraphrasing. Please do not do this in the future; I know paraphrasing math content can be tricky, but you can adjust structure, emphasis, etc. Ovinus (talk) 16:58, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, thanks for the note. It seemed reasonable to me to state the technical definition verbatim and directly cite the source of the statement. I looked around for style guidelines discussing how to handle such citations but did not find any, do you have any links or references explaining the guidelines you're proposing here?

I ask because rewording definition could be an issue here: the article is a stub, I am not an expert, and the definition is somewhat technical, so there's a real chance that paraphrasing it could make it simply incorrect. Dzackgarza (talk) 14:18, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dzackgarza, I must apologise – I didn't notice this potential problem when I declined the speedy deletion (below). However, it seems that the whole text is copied with minimal changes from that one source, and that the article, though open access, is not compatibly licenced for use in our project (the licence here specifically excludes commercial use). I've blanked the page and listed it here for investigation. I'll freely admit that I don't know what you should do about this, for the valid reasons you give here. I'm afraid that the answer may be to wait for someone who is an expert to write our page on this topic. Sorry about this, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:40, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see, that is a real issue! I'll attempt a rewrite, although it feels dishonest to *just* paraphrase the source to avoid copyright issues. Having definitions of common mathematical objects in wiki articles is massively useful in day to day research though, so this may be a reasonable tradeoff. Dzackgarza (talk) 13:05, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Please follow this link to reach a special temporary rewrite page. To be clear, we shouldn't be looking to close-paraphrase the source, but rather to write new text that will convey the same ideas – and I don't myself see any dishonesty in that. If I may offer a suggestion, a good way of going about it is to work from several sources at once – you'll need those anyway to demonstrate that the thing is independently notable by our standards, for which a single source does not normally suffice. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:25, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Coxeter fan

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Speedy deletion nomination of Coxeter fan

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A tag has been placed on Coxeter fan requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0001870810002586?via%3Dihub and Earwig scan doesn't work. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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