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October 2013

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Moving Error

When starting two articles in my user-space before starting the actual article, I only copied the text when starting the actual page, rather than moving the pages. I apologize. Dustin talk 16:52, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Protesting Against the Deletion of a Page

You ask "Is there any was to protest against the deletion of a page". There are several ways, but starting multiple threads on the help desk, or indeed at any forum, is a bad idea. It is apt to make people respond negatively or not at all.

The formal way to contest a deletion is via Deletion review. For a speedy deletion, such as this, a private conversation with the deleting admin, on his or her talk page, is often a good way to start.

I am going to look at the deleted page now, and I may comment further after that. DES (talk) 21:46, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Hey, since I posted that, a few things have happened. Someone restored the page, and moved it to a user sub-page. I tried to say thank you to the person who did this on the article talk page, because it is a potential step to saving this page. I am sorry for having multiple sections; I was very desperate to receive a reply. I apologize. Dustin talk 21:52, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
Yes i just found the page at User:Charmlet/National Weather Service Norman, Oklahoma. I marked it as a userspace draft. As it stands it depends pretty much solely on primary sources, that is, NWS web pages. It needs sources showing that it has been significantly discussed by independent reliable secondary sources to establish notability. While I wouldn't nominate this for A7 speedy deletion as it stands, i don't think it would pass an WP:AfD process as it stands. And as per Wikipedia is not a directory I think the list of individual radio stations should go. They add length and bulk to the article without adding significant content in my view. DES (talk) 22:01, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
By the way, don't use spaces to indent talk page posts, that triggers formatting meant for code samples and similar oddities. Use leading colons as I have done here. This is a fairly obscure wiki feature until you learn it. DES (talk) 22:01, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
DES - significant coverage in independent sources is only required for GNG, but per the non-commercial organizations section of WP:ORG, it could be argued notable. I'd lean for deletion as it stands now, but it could probably be improved. ~Charmlet -talk- 18:32, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Note the statement in WP:ORG that " Individual chapters, divisions, departments, and other sub-units of notable organizations are only rarely notable enough to warrant a separate article." If anything, the WP:GNG seems like the way to go if this is to be deemed notable, but everything depends on relevant content and sourcing. DES (talk) 23:35, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
I'd argue that " they are substantially discussed by reliable independent sources that extend beyond the chapter's local area." is met for this one, just on a purely random note - TWC talks about NWS Norman almost every time there is a severe weather outbreak :) ~Charmlet -talk- 23:37, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the review! I will try to enhance the information in the article to a great enough degree that it can stay! Also, though you might not be the person to ask, when I think it has been improved, is there any way to nominate an article for review? Thank you for taking the time! Dustin talk 22:05, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
(Just dropped in here from the Help Desk) Yes - if you'd like the article reviewed, you can click the link in the box at the top, where it says "Finished? Submit the page". -- John of Reading (talk) 06:19, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

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SineBot... you're a little late! I made my first edit months ago, although I didn't become very active until more recently. Well, it doesn't do me much good to reply to a bot, does it? Dustin talk 22:31, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

fr article:1999 tornado

Hi,

Tracks of tornadoes around Oklahoma City on May 3rd, 1999

I understand your arguments but this image of the multiple tornado tracks on that day shows that they all could be named "Zone d'Oklahoma City", not only the F5 that passed into Moore. The reason, as I can figure out, that it is known as the F5 Bridge Creek–Moore tornado is specifically to identify the track that reached the F5 level and discriminate from other tornadoes, whatever damages it has caused when it was F0 to F4. The text describing the event shows anyway the extend of its track and the title of the section does not have be the list of cities impacted or a vague "Oklahoma City zone" moniker.

In any case, you might have good arguments but since you are from English Wikipedia, you should discuss there first about any changes. I will remind you that there is many SPC and NWS contributors to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Severe weather and that is the place for you to discuss the matter. If the English community accept and make any change, I will do the same in French, but not before. You cannot impose something on other Wikis that you cannot pass on your own Wiki.

Sincerely yours,

Pierre cb (talk) 03:42, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for the reply. I understand that some people might think the proposed name (by me) to be vague, but the real intent was for it to be more inclusive. Also, while the name of the tornado itself's article is 1999 Bridge Creek–Moore tornado, the tornado is not always referenced as such in-text. In any case, the section name I was discussing in my previous comment should at least be changed to be at least somewhat more inclusive (e.g. Bridge Creek–Moore, rather than just Moore). That is not all I have to say, but I do not have much time to say anything else for the moment. Also, I am not sure where you would prefer for me to place future responses to this discussion should I decide to say anything else. Dustin talk 23:25, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
After the Severe Weather Project and you arrive at a decision. Just let me a short message with the link to it. Pierre cb (talk) 04:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of 2013–14 North American winter storms for deletion

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re: It's me!

Yep, Hurricanehink is my go-to name I have online for most websites :) I don't talk much on the political forum, but sometimes when something strikes my interest, I do. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:24, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Recent Vandal attack

Don't bother warning that user (Oops IP18), or any of his sock IPs. They are all sockpuppets of User:IPhonehurricane95, and no, he will not stop vandalizing articles or creating new accounts. He's been known to vandalize tropical-cyclone articles, as well as the articles you saw him dumping junk at. He's been vandalizing since August 2011, with 334 sockpuppets as of today, and he's also resorted to attacking his blocking admins. However, he's rangeblocked for a month, so that should take the problem off our hands for a while. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:28, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Wait, I'm confused about some of this. First of all, it seems that this user, iPhonehurricane95, when I checked its contributions, was a good editor. Maybe I just didn't see all of the user's contributions and there were bad edits somewhere, but I didn't see any vandalism coming from that user. Do you know anything about this? In any case, I noticed, that it seems that the account creator had a lot of sock puppet accounts that were used for vandalism. One of them was a user, OopsIP, a similar name to the vandal from a few days ago. I then went to the user page of OopsIP18 again, and noticing the 18, decided to change it to say 17. There had been a blocked user with that name. Then I tried 16, then 15; it seems that almost every number between 21 and 2 (with 1 being the original OopsIP), inclusive, had been a vandal account of iPhonehurricane. The main reason in bringing all of that up is to say that I think that OopsIP is a common name being used by iPhonehurricane, especially recently. There are still some things I don't understand about this, though.
—Some of these answers I could probably answer by searching, but I will still ask:
  • What does it mean to be rangeblocked?
  • Why does iPhonehurricane seem to hate the user Yellow Evan so much? He isn't a sysop, so he couldn't be one of those blocking admins you were talking about.
  • How are you connected to this user? You seem to be making quite a high number of edits at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/IPhonehurricane95. I'm not trying to make accusations or anything of a similar sort; it's just that I noticed you were temporarily blocked a brief while ago, and I noticed that it involved accused socks of iPhonehurricane.
Sorry if I am asking too much; thank you for the notification and for any future responses. Dustin (talk) 02:47, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

IPhonehurricane "hates" more users than just Yellow Evan. He also hates pretty much every single admin that ever blocked him, probably because his block is upsetting him that much, as well as a handful of other users responsible for reporting him, including me. He also has some hate issues with Americans (because he blames America's bombing of Nagasaki for the death of his Great-Grandparent), Japanese (because of their cruelty to the Chinese during WWII), and Koreans, as revealed on some his his talk pages as well as his SPI case archive. However, he is a vandalist; some of his contributions from that account seems good, but keep in mind that he typed some swear words and other personal attacks using that account as well. Also, it's not the account that determines whether the editor is good or bad; it's the person behind the accounts. And this guy has abused over 336 IPs and sock accounts to vandalize repetitively across multiple Wikimedia Projects since May 2011, with his IP edits extending back to 2006. I can't explain everything here, but this should give you at least a general idea. You can ask his blocking admins for more info on his vandalism. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:26, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

PS, a Rangeblock is the blocking of an entire IP Range, depending on how large the blocking admin sets the block parameters to. His current IP Range is a highly active mobile one, so in order to minimize collateral damage, a Checkuser has enforced several smaller blocks (6 I think) in order to cover the entire range. That means that he can't edit Wikipedia mainspace through any of his IPs for another month (when it expires), unless he switches to a different range. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:26, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
A large number of his edits have been censored by admins because they were extremely vulgar. That might be why you are having a hard time finding terrible edits on some of his major sock accounts. I have a link to a list detailing every known sock account he's ever abused, in case you really want to delve more into this. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:28, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
If he shows up again, feel free to file a report on the sock account(s) that he is using in the SPI casepage below:

User:IPhonehurricane95 Sockpuppet investigations The Sockpuppetry guidelines page should help you file this report. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:31, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply; I'll try to give some of the aforementioned things a closer look. Regarding whether or not iPhonehurricane95 is a good account, I was trying to say that it looked like at least a somewhat okay account in terms of vandalism, although the actual person behind the account was a significant vandal due to the excessive use of alternate sockpuppet accounts. Also, on the part about the anti-American sentiment, that surprises me to some degree; before the indefinite block was applied, the userpage seemed to indicate that iPhonehurricane was in someway or another a Chinese American. It is too bad that he had to make all of those bad sockpuppet edits; it looked like he was a genuinely good faith editor, at least with that account, and it's too bad that it couldn't have just been the good editor there without the bad side. That's all I will say for the moment. Dustin (talk) 01:54, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
I feel the same way. Unfortunately, we cannot control the actions of other people. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:00, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
I am aware that you have just been blocked; that is disappointing, for I now will have to wait two weeks for a reply to this question. You didn't address everything that I said with your recent reply, such as how iPhonehurricane95 seems to have an anti-American sentiment despite there being some reason to believe he is a Chinese American. That wasn't really important anyway, but I don't feel happy about having to wait half a month for what would likely be an otherwise five-minute long wait. Maybe you will reply two weeks from now; in any case, goodbye for a while. Dustin (talk) 04:38, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
Dustin V. S., regarding your question, everything that you have discovered about IPhonehurricane95 is true. It just so happens that he is like that. However, his good edits are a result of his attempts to utilize "good-hand and bad-hand" accounts in an attempt to trick Wikipedia Admins into giving him rollback rights. You can see the Wikipedia sockpuppet page, or ask an admin for more information on the "role-playing" that prolific sockmasters often use. It is one of the nastiest types of socking, and it also causes the most damage, as well as the most confusion as to which of the "bad-hand" sockmasters is the real one, and the question of if they are all socks of another (possibly a "good-hand") account. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:08, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
I am sorry that I didn't reply immediately once I saw your comment; okay, I think that the situation is a bit clearer. Most of this concerns certain other users and tropical cyclone articles, though, so I probably won't be getting very involved. I don't understand why sock puppets wouldn't just use the Twinkle rollback ability; do you? (please reply) In any case, thank you for the reply, even though it took a bit of waiting! Dustin (talk) 19:53, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Well, vandals (especially sock accounts) lack the rights to use Twinkle or Rollback. Additionally, Rollback rights must be granted by administrators, so it is impossible for vandals to acquire at all. An interesting fact to note is the IPhonehurricane95 created his Vicky870 family of socks after he failed his Rollback nomination, due to an insufficient amount of counter-vandal edits, which led him to role-playing his sockpuppets as "good-hand and bad-hand" (IPhonehurricane95 Vs. Vicky870 and other "vandal" socks). LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:38, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

I am confused; maybe you have to be autoconfirmed first (which is pretty easy), but beyond that, all that is necessary to use TW is to enable it in your user preferences under "gadgets." After that, when you are viewing diffs between edits, you have the rapid rollback ability (it will only work on (mostly) main space pages, though). It appears like this, with slightly different colors: [rollback (AGF)] || [rollback] || [rollback (VANDAL)]; pressing the right-most button will instantly revert the edit with no questions asked. Dustin (talk) 03:56, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Oh. But if they try that, those edits will only get reverted by the good users. As for your question, this section should only be split if we delve more into editing tool-specific topics. :) LightandDark2000 (talk) 04:06, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Okay then! I add a bit more to this comment in just a bit, but I will first reply to your comment in the section below (#Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!); as an off-topic comment, I notice that your user page says you live in California, but that would mean that you make most of your edits (at least lately) very late... Not that that is really important, though. Dustin (talk) 04:12, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Just another thing, you probably want to keep a close on on this user, because he has been known to vandalize/attack other users the day his block expires. He is also notorious for harassing users that he has interacted before in the past, so you might want to watch out for that as well. Just a heads-up. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:43, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
How does his block expire? Has he spoken to you alot? In any case, that is all I will say for the night, I will likely be back tommorow! Dustin (talk) 05:49, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
I meant his rangeblocks. You see, Admins are usually forbidden from imposing indefinite blocks on IP/IP Ranges, meaning that his Rangeblocks will expire eventually. This means that in a couple of weeks, his blocks will need to be extended if he decides to resume vandalizing articles and user pages. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:51, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Did you click on the [rollback (VANDAL)] button when you randomly undid my edit just a moment ago to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Weather Service Chicago, Illinois? That button is meant to only be used when there is very obvious vandalism, especially when it is essential that it be removed quickly. You undid the revert though, so it is fine. Goodbye now! Dustin (talk) 05:57, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I'm new to the function, and I didn't expect it to automatically revert. I'm more used to having to inputting data manually. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:49, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

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What is this? .... Dustin (talk) 03:30, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Ah, it seems that I arrived at this link while examining LightandDark2000's contribs to see if he was still active; I left a {{talkback}} on his talk page. Dustin (talk) 03:34, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Wait a minute... Did you get this message while viewing my contributions without actually playing The Wikipedia Adventure??? That's very interesting; I have never seen anything like this before. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:39, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
There's more to it than just that, so don't become too confused; I mention later, let me read your other comment at #Recent Vandal attack first, and I'll bring it up again afterwards. Dustin (talk) 03:44, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Oh... Well, anyways, it's still and interesting development. I was actually playing The Wikipedia Adventure when you posted the talkback notice on my talk page, and I didn't finish until I really finish until the time when I posted my comment in the section above, so maybe that was part of the reason why you got this message. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:51, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
I clicked on the link to see what it was, and I decided to go along with it for just a little while. I guess at some point, without me noticing, the above was added as part of the simulation. You no longer have any need to wonder! Dustin (talk) 04:16, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

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Creating the outbreak maps

This might seem complex at first glance and first try, but once you do it one time, you'll understand. So, here we go.

1) Download QGIS (link here)

2) After the download, you'll see that 6 programs we're installed. We're only interested in the "QGIS Desktop 2.2.0" so you can move the other stuff to the recycle bin.

3) The next step is to download the base map. To do this, go here and click "Download Large Size" for the 3rd to last map titled "Cross Blended Hypso with Shaded Relief and Water".

4) Go here scroll down to "Lakes + Reservoirs" and click "Download Lakes"

5) Go here and click "Download land boundaries" under "Admin 0 - Boundary lines", and also click "Download states and provinces" under "Admin 1 - States and provinces". !All these downloads are ZIP files and will need to be extracted before moving on!

6) With all that done, open QGIS and go to the top where it says "Layer" and click "Add Raster Layer". Open the file with the base map (folder title should end up being "HYP_HR_SR_W") and double click the .shp file only. That should load the base map.

7) Go back to where it says "Layer" and click "Add Vector Layer". Open either the Lakes, Admin 0 Boundary, or Admin 1 Boundary folder and click the .shp files. This should load those as well.

8) The colors will be all wacky at first, so to fix this there should be a box on the left side titled "Layers". It'll list the names of the vector layers you just loaded, and underneath their titles should be little boxes and lines depicting the current color of that said layer. Double click the color box. Lakes should be the color "water", and the other two boundary lines should be "Residential road".

9) With the technical stuff out of the way, the coordinates still have to be plotted. To do this, you're going to have to open Excel (doesn't matter which version), and create a spreadsheet with touchdown coordinates using "Latitude" and "Longitude". Because we're going to eventually change the color of them, you're going to have to create a spreadsheet for all EF0s in a particular outbreak, all EF1s in a particular outbreak, and so on. When you save this file, do not do so as an Excel workbook, but instead save it as "CSV (comma delimited)".

10) Go back to where it says "Layers" and click "Add Delimited Text Layer". The coordinates should load. To change the color, go back to the box on the left side and double-click the layer. Click the color bar and change the RGB values to match the EF scale:

EF0 - 0 250 244

EF1 - 255 255 204

EF2 - 255 231 117

EF3 - 255 193 64

EF4 - 255 143 32

EF5 - 255 96 96

11) Now, to get the map to focus on a particular region that captures the entire outbreak, there's a button above the map that says "Zoom to Layer". Click it.

12) Go to "Project", click "Save as image" (save it as a .png). Done.

Let me know if you have any questions. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 04:00, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

I understood most of this up until step 9; how do you enter the coordinates? Do you use only one row or one column for each spreadsheet? Do you include the degree symbol? Do you include N/S/E/W, or do you enter the coordinates based on positive and negative values? I don't understand how to enter the values into the cells, but everything else was pretty clear. Ask me if I need to clarify on my question; thank you for the instructions. Dustin (talk) 22:18, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
That's my fault, I should have clarified. So, once you open excel, cell A1 should be titled Latitude and cell A2 should be titled Longitude. Just enter the coordinates below that...no directional letter is needed, no degree sign. Just make sure all the longitudinal values are negative. See this example. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 22:21, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
I tried it, but I think that it is actually cells A1 and B1 you were referring to. Thank you for the answer! Dustin (talk) 22:31, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
I was forced to save each spreadsheet as a separate file; it still worked, but now, I have no way of auto-zooming to encompass my prefered area. I can almost guarantee that I will have no problems beyond this. Dustin (talk) 00:07, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
As a general rule, EF0s usually occur over the largest area relative to EF1+ tornadoes. Zooming in on the EF0 layer should get the rest. That said, in the case that they don't, select the zoom in button above the map and you can click and drag to zoom to a particular region you want. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:22, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Okay, I still have one last problem; how did you adjust the dot size? Dustin (talk) 00:38, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Under the same menu that you changed the color of the dots. EF0s and EF1s should be 1.5 (the program only provides increments of 1, but 1.5 is a valid option; just type it in and click okay), EF2s should be 2, EF3s should be 3, EF4s should be 4, and EF5s should be 5.

Oh, and another thing -- when you're importing your excel files, always import the EF5s, then the EF4s, and so on. This way, the lesser tornadoes will be plotted atop the bigger ones. If you don't do it this way, the EF4 and EF5 dots will hide the rest. Sorry for not saying that sooner! TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 01:03, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for all of the help; I have created an image at File:October 2013 North American storm complex.png (I was rushed, so left out the word "map," for which reason I have already added a move request). Dustin (talk) 01:40, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Hey Dustin, I saw your addition of the May 26-31 map and read your edit summary. If you could, go through some of the outbreak pages and only do the ones with complete coordinates. That way, it'll make it more simple to find ones that need to be done and not completely finished. The issue that we (WikiProject Severe Weather) have is that a lot of the tornado outbreak pages rely on information from the local NWS offices at the time of the event, which may not be complete fully and are subject to change. NCDC storm data comes out several months later; many of the pages before 2013 are missing it. I'm working on the List of tornadoes in the May 21–26, 2011 tornado outbreak sequence page right now so I can get that one completed, but it'll take a while..and even then, there are numerous more pages to do. We might have to stop making maps for a while until the pages are complete. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 01:12, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

I understand what you are saying; however, I figured that since I have saved the QGIS and CSV files for the maps, I can upload updated versions when new information becomes available. All I would need to do is update the CSV files, and the QGIS file (when reloaded) would automatically update the values when it reread the CSV files; all I would need to do after that is recrop the image, and create a new PNG. Dustin (talk) 02:36, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Twinkle and SPI

Hi. In followup to your comment, I see what you mean about Twinkle. I did find that to report multiple socks at once, you have to go to the sockmaster's page and then use the "Sockpuppeteer" function. You will see two spaces for sockpuppet accounts and a button to add more. I hope this helps. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 23:58, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Also, especially with the extra-disruptive sockmasters like this guy, we advise that editors not notify the suspected sockpuppets. Cheers ​—DoRD (talk)​ 00:01, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for the advice; I will make use of it if I see any more of what appear to be iPhonehurricane95's sock puppets (or other socks). Dustin (talk) 00:19, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


Talk:Kingdom of Cambodia (1975-76)#Growing stub

Some thouhgts about the scope of the article. Please share any you may have. Cheers, walk victor falk talk 04:36, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

2014 PHS revert

Regarding this, why do you think the template exists then? I really don't think it matters much; I'd just rather stick with what I've used for years. YE Pacific Hurricane 21:58, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

@Yellow Evan: I hate to say it if you've been using it for years, but just look at {{Es icon}}; it's only for external links, use the "language" parameter for citations. Dustin (talk) 22:02, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Meh, I don't think it matters much whether what we use that or the |language= parameter. YE Pacific Hurricane 22:47, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

IRC

Hi, I noticed your reasonable discussion on the 2014 Pacific hurricane season. Most of us who edits weather articles hang out on #wiki-hurricanes connect where we tend to coordinate WP:TC discussion, and discuss weather, especially hurricanes/cyclones in general. It's a friendly community and I invite you to join and check it out. :) Thanks Secret account 22:27, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm in the discussion right now, but thanks for the invitation; it is far better for discussing certain things. Dustin (talk) 00:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

IPs/Users aren't always rational

I response to the question in your edit summary, not all IPs (or users for that matter) edit constructively. The reason why they keep changing it to a Cat 5 hurricane is either because they are misinformed, or because they just want it to look that way. I really don't know how else to break it down to you. In either case, just revert it and inform them on their talk page. That should do the trick, but if all else fails, report them to WP:AVI if vandalism occurs after a Level 4 Warning. LightandDark2000 (talk) 09:15, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

That's what I was planning on doing (I already sent a warning to at least one of them); the thing that was confusing me was they didn't appear related. In any case, thanks for the response! Dustin (talk) 13:28, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

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Re:Commons Page

Hello. I noticed that you suggested me to redirect my Commons page to my active Commons account. I had known for some time that I could do this, but the reason why I have not was to avoid further abuse from sockpuppets. If you examine the revisions history of my Commons account, you can see that I have experienced quite an amount of abuse recently. Since there are more sockpuppeteers on Wikipedia who know me by the name "LightandDark2000", I did not want to identify myself directly on Commons in order to avoid their abusive attacks. Just so you know. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:27, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Well, I always figured that since you quite clearly say on your impressive user page how your Commons account is named "BlueHypercane761," it would not make any difference. The only apparent benefit I see is that vandals who are only on Commons, which shouldn't know you as "LightandDark2000" anyway. I'm partly confused by this, but you can do what you want, though, as I said earlier. Dustin (talk) 05:33, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Well, sure I advertised it (in order to avoid any unintentional sockpuppetry), and it may come in handy, especially since the unified login has automatically registered my Commons account on Wikipedia. That being said, I still don't want to make it any easier for vandals to launch personal attacks at me. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:36, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Caution

Hey there, just a heads up, 68.111.70.220 is possibly a sock IP of User:IPhonehurricane95. It originates from where IPhonehurricane95 claims to live, and the articles he has edited (a Japan article, for example) matches those that he used to edit, which hits that he may have found another loophole in his rangeblock. Anyhow, I'm taking this to the admins, just it is really him. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:34, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Note the "possibly" here; the IP didn't actually break any rules. I do suspect that IPhonehurricane95 was being honest about his location, though, because he brought it up before he was ever blocked in the first place. In any case, I'm not really directly involved with this, but I noticed that you left an angry edit summary in reply to IPhonehurricane93, and I've just got to say that referring to his "ugly hide" is a terrible idea. Don't insult him, you'll only make him even angrier (as is the case with most disruptive editors). This is just a piece of advice for the future that you should have already known about, no offense intended. Dustin (talk) 05:41, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Eh, when people get mad, they tend to lose it a bit. I realize that he may have been trying to provoke me, but I had to tell him that he wouldn't get away with it (especially since Checkuser evidence and Wikimedia Global Account data has linked all of those accounts to him), even though I probably didn't have to say that. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:03, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
I don't know what you mean by Wikimedia Global Account data, but okay, thanks for the reply. I hope that at some point you will be able to be present at earlier hours. I must leave now, so good night. Dustin (talk) 06:04, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm going to add, FYI, if you haven't already checked the sock puppet investigations page, your request failed. The IP has apparently stopped editing (at least for now) anyway, so I don't think it would've made much of a difference. Dustin (talk) 05:35, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Punctuation in quotations

Re Federal State of New Russia: I'm not sure what you mean by bare references since I didn't add any references, bare or otherwise. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:MOS#Punctuation_inside_or_outside, which state clearly that:

On Wikipedia, place punctuation marks inside quotation marks only if
a) they are present in the source material, and
b) their inclusion makes grammatical sense.

Wikipedia follows its own convention regarding quotations, not the American convention. Thanks. --Nizolan (talk) 05:48, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I see that your edit was a mistake. Apologies for the unwarranted pedantry. --Nizolan (talk) 05:49, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
As I said in my edit summary, that was a mix-up. I thought that you were removing a bare ref template from the page I had edited just beforehand (New Russia Party), so reverted your edit. I realized that I was looking at the wrong article, so undid my edit. Sorry about that. Dustin (talk) 05:51, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Because you thanked me

You thanked me for one of my recent edits, so here is a heart-felt...
 YOU'RE WELCOME!
It's a pleasure, and I sincerely hope that you enjoy your continued improvement of this inspiring encyclopedia! – Paine

02:16, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

No problem! I was going to try to make some additional changes to The Ukraine because I realized it was probably not good to leave it uncategorized, but you saved me all the work. Thanks again! Dustin (talk) 02:21, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
No problemo . Along with other editors, I monitor Category:Miscellaneous redirects, which is where the {{This is a redirect}} template sorts when there are no parameters used. That is how I found that redirect, so feel free to do it again when you find a redirect that needs improvement. Joys! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 06:16, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

IPhonehurricane95's return on Commons

Yeah, I read what you posted on my talk page about 7 hours ago. It's pretty discouraging how he came back and decided to launch another personal attack, but I guess that a tiger doesn't change its stripes. Just a piece of advice; you should stop warning him and instead just revert and ignore him, as it is highly unlikely that he will quite his disruptive behavior. And those IPs are his, just so you know. As for the IP I was using, don't assume that it was mine (it's not), I wasn't home at that time so I was editing through my friend's IP during a break on a Physics project. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:15, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Also, there are a few points you missed out on. For one, when will you be able to edit earlier than midnight (10:00 p.m. your time)? I hardly have any way of replying to you, so I think that this really is an issue. Also, we should still try to find a way of either forcing or convincing IPhonehurricane to stop vandalizing. The comment he left on my Commons page, that was extremely rude, but I really don't care because he is only using that as a way exerting his anger about ever being blocked. I say that's a stupid move on his part considering that I am actually using words and not just saying rude, angry comments in reply like some have (I had a great weekend, so his words didn't make a difference anyway). Back on the point, this is important because of the massive extent of rangeblocks can have terrible effects. Dustin (talk) 05:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
The Checkusers have narrowed his IP Rangeblocks to 6 separate blocks on smaller ranges on his current mobile range, so the collateral damage is very minimal. (However, blocking his entire mobile range would only block a max of 16,230 contributors anyways.) Also, my editing schedule should return to normal by the end of this week, assuming of course that I don't edit during the nights in which I stay up late to study for my finals. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:26, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
That is still a massive number of potential contributors... so we should think of something at least, in my opinion. Something new. What do you know about him before he started creating vandals? I mean, before he created fake vandal accounts so he could revert them (to make him a better candidate for rollback rights). This information may be helpful (I'll say more in a bit). Also, just a comment, but wherever you go to school must last late. I have never gone past June 1. That's all. Dustin (talk) 05:31, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
I am not going to name my area of residence other than saying its in a Southern Californian city (otherwise, I would be revealing personal info). The school district that I go to begins school inn the middle of the 3rd week of August, and ends in the 2nd week of June on the following year. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:32, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
(One of) The elementary schools that I used to go to in my area used to have school for another week, but they chopped it out about 8 years ago. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:33, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
I live in the Central United States (not exactly), and here, school ends third week of May. Also, (not suggesting that you say what it is) many Southern Californian cities are so large that you could say and I would still be hopeless to find out. Only the school would actually make a difference. Dustin (talk) 05:38, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Wait, you are still in school and there have been times when you have stayed up until 1:30 a.m. your time? Dustin (talk) 05:41, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I am still in school (not on weekends though ). As for the second question, I don't really want to answer that one. Let's just say that I'm going to work on curbing the number of times that I do that. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
So what times of the day will you be able to edit during once school ends for you. With others, I can just set up IRC chat at nearly any time, but since you're not part of that group (at least not at the moment), I am restricted from having discussions involving you to between 12:00 and 1:00 a.m. my time, which is really annoying (I go to bed at 1:00 a.m. usually). I am okay so long as you will be able to edit before 9:30 p.m. (7:30 your time) (hopefully). Will you be able to in the future? Collaboration has been severely restricted because of your late hour of editing; it's like with Typhoon2013 (on a worse scale). Dustin (talk) 05:48, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

I usually edit around 8- 10 PM or 5-6 PM (if I am lucky, during school). This will likely be my editing schedule once I get out of school, though I will probably go an hour or two over the mark. As for now, I don't think that I will be able to edit during the 5-6 time, but if I do, you will probably know. And don't blame User:Typhoon2013, he's a kid in New Zealand. He obviously can't stay up this late (or early, depending on what time it is for him). And if I caused any serious damage in collaboration, I apologize. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:51, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm not blaming Typhoon2013; I know. Also, my question on time is for after you are out of school. Also, you don't have to apologize; if you have school, you have school. So don't worry about that. Dustin (talk) 05:53, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
After I'm out of school... Wait... I have swim lessons and summer classes. ... Ugh. Maybe around 3:00 PM to 4 (I don't know, I don't know the times for those events yet). Probably 5-6 PM, maybe 8-10 if it takes me longer to kill the homework. During the weekend, it should be around 3-6 PM, with maybe a break or variation. I may also edit during the late morning hours if I am feeling like it. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:59, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Summer classes... doesn't sound nice to me, in any case. Well, it sounds like the situation will get better in any case. Thanks for the reply. Also, I know you might not want to, but I still think we should find a way to better combat iPhonehurricane... he's doing nothing more than trolling everyone and being annoying, and I don't want potentially good editors to be affected by his rangeblock. That's still a pretty high number. So, please leave any additional ideas you might have. I will not be able to respond again beyond the next ten minutes. Thanks. Dustin (talk) 06:05, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I agree that we must combat his vandalism. The good thing about that rangeblock is that hardly anyone else ever edits out of those IPs (last I checked) so we should be good on this end. The 16,230 is for his entire range, but like I said earlier, due to the 6 narrower rangeblocks, the collateral damage is minimal. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:17, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
@LightandDark2000: Okay, we can talk more tomorrow (if necessary). Goodnight! Dustin (talk) 06:19, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Talk Page

I saw your advice, the problem is i didn't know what to do--Arbutus the tree (talk) 19:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

@Arbutus the tree: So, did you go to your preferences page to change your signature? I notice that your signatures have links now. And also, if you are confused, just ask and I will try to clarify. Thanks. Dustin (talk) 19:28, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes i did--Arbutus the tree (talk) 00:12, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay; good! If you have any questions, then like I said earlier, you can just leave a message on my talk page. One more thing - when replying to someone, you should indent your comments by adding a colon (:) before your comment. Dustin (talk) 01:08, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

InHg

Thanks for pointing this out. I had noticed this myself and I thought I had fixed it, but I hadn't noticed it occurred twice! Fixed for the future.--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 06:24, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

It's no problem, I just was trying to help out by mentioning the error. Also, sorry for getting frustrated the other day; I hate edit conflicts. I am glad that you added the "current status" area to accompany the infobox, but then, on the actual warning box... I just put "MEXICO" to start with the plans of updating in just a moment, but then I tried to submit and had an edit conflict. So yeah... please forgive my frustrated edit summary. Thanks. Dustin (talk) 15:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps see this

…article needing creation… [1] Leprof 7272 (talk) 14:10, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Eh, I'll give it a look. Dustin (talk) 15:50, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Timeline

Yeah, I have dealt with that during my previous two years. But, there is no sense in reverting when you will just have to change it right back. United States Man (talk) 18:27, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Well, that is okay with me. United States Man (talk) 18:51, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Userboxes

Whenever i try to add a user box onto my userpage, i can't place it on the right of the page. It template only has the userbox itself, with nothing there saying where you can place it (example right center left). Do you know how to do this? --Arbutus the tree (talk) 22:21, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

I think you can tell it to stay on the right. I group most of my userboxes together; I have {{Userboxtop}} followed by all of my userboxes, then I have {{Userboxbottom}} If I were a user named "Person" and I wanted to have the templates {{User American}} and {{User American English}}; I would enter the coding as the following:

{{Userboxtop}}
{{User American}}
{{User American English}}
{{Userboxbottom}}
It would then display as the box you can see to the right. I don't know if will help you any, but I hope it does. Dustin (talk) 22:48, 3 June 2014 (UTC)


Thanks, that helped.--Arbutus the tree (talk) 23:42, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Re:Mr Wiki Pro and IPhonehurricane95

Yes, I know a lot about this. In fact, I'm heavily involved, as I am caught in the crossfire between the 2 sockmaster's efforts to disrupt Wikipedia (as are many other users). I believe that Mr Wiki Pro reverted IPhonehurricane95's edits on Commons because he was in a good mood for some reason and wanted to help out (from what I can piece together from a message he left on an admin's talk page on Commons). As for why he isn't blocked on Commons, I don't know. It may be because he hasn't socked yet on Commons, but I'm not really sure. I do find this suspicious though, and I will probably take this to an admin for more attention to this incident pretty soon. It's a shame that he can't edit positively on Wikipedia like he does on Commons (well, most of the time). LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:19, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

PS, you're not bothering me when you bring these users to my attention. In fact, I encourage reporting them when the situation deems it, although you should caution yourself when dealing with these sockmasters, as vandals are notorious for retaliation whenever they feel provoked. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:20, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
I checked your talk page's revisions history, and that is definitely Mr Wiki Pro. He has been causing a lot of disruption lately, so honestly, it isn't really all that surprising to me. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
PS, I see that you have a new edit notice. I think that it's really cool. The most notorious vandals will probably ignore it (similar to the cases on my userspace), and you may want to add them to your watchlist if you haven't already, in case some nasty users decide to pollute them. But now, they no longer have an excuse. :) LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:20, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I saw that IPhonehurricane95 thought he could use another loophole to vandalize when he created User:OopsIP25. I get that you are trying to deter him from vandalism and attacking other users, but he probably isn't going to stop. I do appreciate your efforts, though. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:25, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

By the way, you missed one: User:Decline nonsense request. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:44, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
@LightandDark2000: According to what Mr Wiki Pro said on your Commons talk page, he has been rangeblocked and so will not be hassling on Wikipedia. Dustin (talk) 05:01, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Yeah. He just told me that he would no longer return to cause disruption on Wikipedia (via my Commons talk page). And about your photos, don't feel too bad. There's another guy who got an even higher quality photo of an Iridescent Cloud than I did, although I could have sworn that the Iridescent Cloud I saw 2 years ago had the same clarity. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:53, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Extremely Rare Rainbow event in Southern California

Hello. I would like to share these images with you that I have taken myself. They detail an extremely rare rainbow event in Southern California that occurred on Sunday, June 1st, including some rainbow clouds and a Double Halo (I did not even know they existed until I saw that one).

Here is a list of the images:

1. Rainbow Cirrus Cloud

2. Rainbow Cloud Band

3. An extremely rare Double Rainbow Halo (optical phenomenon)

4. Center of the Double Rainbow Halo

Have fun! LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:18, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Those are some really nice pictures you have taken; they are also of high resolution, which will gain you some points. In the first picture, just in case that car belongs to some random person, you might need to go back and blur it's license plate, but apart from that, the pictures look excellent (a strong word with a positive meaning, in my opinion)! I myself saw a strange looking cloud with rainbow colors at sunset within the last week or so, but I don't have anything near the sort of camera you do, so wouldn't consider it entirely worthy. I didn't see any halos though. Thanks for sharing; I love high-quality pictures, and I even have put my most high quality picture of all (not created by me, of course) on my user page (you have to scroll down a bit). High-quality images also can be some of the best on Wikipedia, another reason for which they are useful. On the side, at least some of this information could probably be better conveyed via off-wiki means, such as IRC or forums, but on the IRC part, I don't know of a channel that would be closely related enough, and on forums, I don't know if you use forums... it would be useful if there were some sort of wiki-forum or something of the sort to discuss not completely on-topic stuff, but I don't know yet. I don't think there should be any issue here for now, at least, but what I am saying is that it would be very useful if there were an IRC channel or some sort of forum for this stuff. I don't know if you know about IRC, but there's some information at WP:IRC. I didn't even know much at all about IRC until recently, but I now know of a few channels, for which reason I brought up my considerations for a yet unknown channel that probably exists that would be better than talk pages (at least on weekends when you are around). In any case, sorry if I am being confusing or have presented undesirable options; these are just some of my considerations which I brought up because they allow for a greater amount of text to be conveyed between users regarding both on-wiki and off-wiki things. Thanks again! Dustin (talk) 16:04, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't really use forums. If you happened to see a similar event sometime near the same date that I did, does this mean that this was possibly a large-scale Rainbow cloud event in the United States? LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:43, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
I don't use forums either, but I am not aware of any relevant IRC channels (if you have heard of them), and off-wiki means would actually be better to help with on-wiki contributions, if that makes any sense. IRC allows messages to instantly be sent back and forth, and are far more capable of being discussed. You should look at my link to WP:IRC if you haven't already; I think it is great for communicating with other users things that would take a very long time otherwise and that might not be completely relevant. On the rainbow clouds, I had several days of storms and rain, and that is when I saw the colors, unlike where you live where it was clearer. It's still interesting though. Thanks for the response. You replied earlier than 1:00 a.m. in my time, which is pretty helpful. Dustin (talk) 01:50, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
It hasn't rained where I live since late April 2014 (I actually like that, except for the part where it played a part in causing the May 2014 San Diego County wildfires). The rainbow features did get quite sharp at certain points, and I snapped most of my photos during the peaks of activity, one of which included the Double Halo. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:54, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
I would like to communicate some things with you which would otherwise take a long time... so if you are willing, I would like it if you would enter an empty non-specific IRC channel; I think it will still work. If you choose to do so, go to this channel: #privatecommunicationschannel connect. I think this should work, but in any case, leave a message if you have time and say "yes" below my comment here. Just enter some random name and it should work. It might not work, but I think it will. This is definitely better than forums. If you do not want to, that's okay; I just think this is a useful form of communication that allows for text-only chat between users, so it is really useful. Dustin (talk) 02:05, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
You were there for a second, but then you left. Dustin (talk) 02:12, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
I joined the IRC channel and saw your username, but I was unable to see any comments or reply. I'm not sure if something went wrong or if I was supposed to do something else once I got there, but it didn't really work. LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:15, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
You should have said something. I think it was working until you left. I wasn't paying attention to the IRC channel at the time because you didn't leave me a message saying "yes" on my Wikipedia talk page. I would suggest that you return to the IRC channel, and I will be watching this time. You may leave comments by typing into the bottom bar and pressing enter. Dustin (talk) 02:17, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
You seem to have at least temporarily disappeared, but I would ask that when you read this, you just reenter the channel where you can see my name. If you see my name, then it has worked. Don't leave so quickly. Thank you. Dustin (talk) 02:37, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
IRC is so easy to use, and all that is involved is text. Assuming that you do not return within the next three hours, we will not be able to use IRC, which really disappoints me. It is so easy; you shouldn't have left after only being there for just two minutes. That's the only problem there was. Had you just stuck around for a minute longer, I would have seen that you were there. Now, it seems that you have probably left your computer entirely and so can't even read my comments to you on my talk page, which ruins it. You only seen to edit in the middle of the night, so I can practically never say anything to you, which is why I came up with this idea. There is a lot that I want to say, and a very large degree of it would probably be useful, but inappropriate for talk pages. If do return within three hours of this comment, I would hope that you give it another chance. I communicate using IRC with many other users on other channels, but this channel is empty except for me (and you if you join) so that we don't have to remain on a specific topic. Dustin (talk) 03:08, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I was thinking, since you shared some images you created with me, I would share a single, less impressive image of mine with you. I uploaded the following image a little over twelve hours before this comment: File:Red Soil Oklahoma 2014-06-06.JPG. You have all of those rainbows, and all I have is a bunch of red dirt. Dustin (talk) 05:05, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Hey, that's actually not a bad picture itself. I've never really seen red soil like that before. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:14, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't know if you missed my comment about the license plate; I mentioned it incorrectly. Dustin (talk) 15:21, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I don't have Photoshop, and I'm not experienced enough to use Picpic to blur only the license plate. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:20, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Agh! Forget what I just said. I think I just figured out how to do it. Let's see if it works. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:25, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay. I blurred the license plate and tried to upload the new version, but for some reason, the changes didn't carry over. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:32, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) May we see indeed. Dustin (talk) 00:34, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, it did work (you could still blur it a little bit more); your browser saved the old version so it wouldn't have to re-download every time, so the new image is there, but you will still see the old one. Try clearing your browser's cache of images, and see if that helps. Dustin (talk) 00:37, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
I haven't cleared my internet cache yet because I'm still actively editing. However, I'm sure that I'll see how it turned out tomorrow, unless I decide to do some browser cleaning today. LightandDark2000 (talk) 04:09, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay. Also, if you look at my user page, I have uploaded two new photos of clouds. They aren't the best, but they still are decent I think, and have high resolution. You or anyone else may use them if you want. Dustin (talk) 04:18, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Nice. They would look better if the background was brighter, but if the clouds or the time of day was causing the darkness, then I guess they're okay. LightandDark2000 (talk) 04:37, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I was in the shade of some of the clouds when I took the pictures, so it was pretty dark, despite it being mid-afternoon. I still think they're okay though (I agree that it would have been nice if the pictures were brighter). Dustin (talk) 04:50, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Concerning the Iridescent clouds, I happened to see another one at around 7:10 PM PDT, on Monday, June 23, 2014. The shade was much lighter, and there was only one that time. Unfortunately, I didn't get my smartphone out in time, so the rainbow cloud faded before I could get a picture of it. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:06, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Reviewer granted

Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.

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Re:Edit Summaries

What was so out of line by saying that? YE Pacific Hurricane 03:49, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I only just saw this; just go to your talk page, I left a comment for CycloneIsaac that you may read. Dustin (talk) 03:53, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Re: Edits just a moment ago on Jonathan Wilkes

Re your message: No worries. =) I had figured that you had made a mistake. The vandalism was going fast and furious for a bit. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:17, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

There was a bit of a scuffle between Jonathan Wilkes ‎and Edgar Davids at a charity soccer match, so the trolls are out on the respective articles. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:27, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay, that would explain a bit. Whenever recent things occur such as this, the trolls always come out. It'll simmer down later, though. Dustin (talk) 22:30, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Your rollback request

Hi Dustin V. S., I have granted rollback rights to your account in accordance with your request. Please be aware that rollback should be used to revert vandalism, spam and blatantly unconstructive edits; using it to revert any other type of edit - such as by revert-warring or reverting edits you disagree with - can lead to it being removed from your account...sometimes without any warning, as some admins do not give a warning if they become aware of any misuse. If you think an edit should require a reason for reverting, use a manual edit summary instead of using the rollback tool. For practice, you may wish to review Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback.

Also, I am sorry for the delay with your request; your query on the talk page was reasonable and not at all impatient. Best. Acalamari 22:40, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the reply. If I think that an edit is a serious issue but needs an explanation, I can probably just stick with Twinkle (or one of the tools which enable rollback edit summaries). Thanks for the response. Dustin (talk) 22:43, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

In what way is it better to link a redirect than a strait link. The bot is just an automated editor, you do not have to follow it. Excuse me, but I think you are starting to get too involved here, such as jumping on Yellow Evan about a harmless edit summary. Just calm down and go with the flow. United States Man (talk) 14:43, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

See the talk page. Dustin (talk) 14:44, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, that edit summary was not harmless in that it used inappropriate wording; the internet easily masks one's true intentions, and there are many possible bad interpretations of that edit summary. If he made that edit summary to someone who was either young or was not fluent in English, then it would become much more likely that they would interpret the edit summary as negative; he did practically call that IP illiterate. And it has nothing to do with this, so please don't bring it up here. Dustin (talk) 14:52, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
I'd agree with USM you're being way oversensitive about the edit summary. Man, let us have some fun. Was it the polties things in the world? No. But it was a fairly light hearted edit summary. It wasn't directed towards him/her, so I don't see the major problem. Not everyone is touchy. Now, on a more relevant note, DVS, FYI, you broke WP:3RR my making 3 reverts within 24 hours (here 22). I doubt you'll blocked given that it's settled down, but consider yourself lucky that an admin did not notice and you were not blocked. YE Pacific Hurricane 19:43, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
@Yellow Evan: The 3-revert rule only applies for more than three reverts, so I am fine. Dustin (talk) 19:47, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
I just looked it up. I had no clue; I've known it for six years as 2 being the limit. Shows you learn something new everyday. YE Pacific Hurricane 19:51, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
It sure does (on that last part). Also, you can better convey tone by using emoticons or by switching around your words. I don't usually need to make changes in my edit summaries, but if I think I was being too hard in my edit summary, I try to apologize, or if I think my emotions are not being conveyed well enough, I will use try to use {{smiley}} with the relevant parameter. I know that you may not have had bad intentions, and I don't think you did either. I just mean, on the internet it is not always clear. No worries though. Sorry if this was too troublesome. Dustin (talk) 20:03, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

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Falling Trees

Sorry for intervention - I had not read the detailed report below in the article. You might as well revert again imo. --Askedonty (talk) 21:23, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Revert what? Dustin (talk) 21:27, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
No, it looks very fine now. Is the victim not gendered in the title ? --Askedonty (talk) 21:31, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
@Askedonty: The main title is "Causa Amanda un muerto en Guerrero" and there is a lesser title of "Cae árbol en carretera y ocasiona choque fatal". I don't see any indication of gender here. Dustin (talk) 21:37, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Flag of the Federal State of Novorossiya

Thanks for your help with this, how do you link the flag article to the infobox in the main article (Federal State of Novorossiya)? When you click on "flag" in the infobox it should lead you to the flag article. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Hmm... I am not completely sure. If you go to the United States article (I picked because I have a link from one of my userboxes), it doesn't have a direct link to the relevant flag article either. I am sure it's possible though. I am just not sure if {{Infobox country}} supports it. Dustin (talk) 18:28, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I see that there is a link below the actual image. I'll just look at that in a second, and we can have that link. Dustin (talk) 18:30, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! =) - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:30, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I have found that none of the infoboxes actually contained direct links to their respective flag articles; I may be wrong, but I have reason for which I believe that the link it gives will just be the name of the image minus the file extension. So File:Flag of the United States.svg would be read, then a link would be added to Flag of the United States. I checked the same thing with Germany, and that is how it appears. I noticed that the name of the New Russia/Novorossiya flag is File:Flag of Novorussia (project).svg; that project part of the name may just be the problem, but I don't see a parameter for directly specifying the desired flag page. I could be completely wrong here, but that is what it looks like. Dustin (talk) 18:39, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Because it seems you are still around editing but you have not replied, I am going to ask: have you seen my above comment yet? Dustin (talk) 19:28, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Im not sure either, (Sorry was away for a bit) I will try and tweak the picture link then and see if it helps. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:33, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Well I tried t otweak with the picture with no luck, maybe this needs admin help or ask the wiki flag project? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:40, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Well, I don't see why not. I will try to ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology because it appears to be the most relevant WikiProject. After I do so, I guess I will leave a message here (or on your talk page, whichever is preferred) saying I have done so. I will put it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology#Linking the relevant flag article from the country infobox when I ask. Dustin (talk) 19:44, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay thanks! - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:57, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I have created a section at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology#Linking the relevant flag article from the country infobox, so you can look if you want. Dustin (talk) 20:03, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
@Knowledgekid87: I received some help from an editor at the linked page, and I now have adjusted the infobox at Federal State of Novorossiya to display the desired link. Dustin (talk) 22:00, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay and thanks again, happy editing. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:18, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
No problem. The late response here may be attributed to some sort of internet problems I have been having for the past few hours, but since that's not important, I'll just say I am glad to no longer have to worry about that issue. Also, just because I respond here doesn't mean you have to reply, so if that's it, that's it, and if you still want to say something, that is fine too. I just felt it necessary I say that; I do so on certain occasions where I feel it is necessary. Dustin (talk) 23:02, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the hearty welcome, Dustin! Very kind
I've been encountering some problems with edits to the Pan-Arab colors page by other IPs attributed to me incorrectly. To be clear, I agree with these edits entirely and they are in line with my own efforts to prevent the page from being vandalised by a particular user, however, the false accusation of sock puppetry has been raised. I have highlighted that in some instances the geographical distance between some of these IP addresses is several hundred miles within the UK, but this fact has seemingly been ignored. Can you offer any advice? 2.28.240.160 (talk) 16:22, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I believe that there are certain ways of comparing editing behaviors between users and/or IPs, but I cannot seem to remember. I don't know of a specific way to distinguish between IP addresses, but I will say that these at least sound like unfounded claims. Sorry, but I can't think of much else to say. You might be able to get around this issue by registering an account, but you might not want to. If you do decide to register an account, choose a good name; you'll be stuck with it. In any case, welcome again! =). Dustin (talk) 16:29, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your advice. Hopefully the issue will be resolved (but I'm not sure). Thanks again. =) 2.28.240.160 (talk) 16:38, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Dustin, ty for visit to my User Talk page

@Dustin (talk), in re: this comment…

Please listen… Now don't just be plain out rude; if you don't want to reply or take any response from someone's comment, then at least say you don't want to. You shouldn't just delete what appears to be an innocent comment and act like it never existed. You have done this multiple times. You don't own your talk page; others have the right to comment. You should at least leave an edit summary saying why you don't want to respond. Sadly, you are probably, if you are like most other users who I have met doing the same thing, just going to delete my comment here just like all of the others. Please at least give a reason. I am trying to say all of this while being as friendly and civil as possible; please listen to me. Thank you. I intend to cause no trouble here; I just am afraid that you may be causing other users offense in your refusal to discuss and your refusal to give reasoning (it wouldn't be so much of a problem if you at least gave reasoning). Dustin (talk) 03:17, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Do you recall, we have interacted here, at your page above, see [2]? It was about getting the Paul Julian (meteorologist) page up and running. Why not open your Talk to me with AGF, with just ask me "Why do you…" ? (Have I ever been "plain out rude" to you, before?)

As I have explained to others, I am preparing for retirement from WP. As part of process, I am moving the bulk of all longterm interactions/discussions away from my Talk pages. In this way, people experience seeing particular important and long discussions (e.g., on pseudoscience, patents, etc.) away from my pages. In doing this I make it clear that mine is intended as a minimally active Talk page. To further keep it clear, I delete all BOT entries as soon as I have settled the question raised (disambiguation, brackets, etc.). And when a person addresses me over a matter easily settled, I usually paste the full text of their comment back into their talk page, and reply there (as I am doing with you). In other cases, there is no real substance at all to the entry, merely a "come see me" type of entry, and so I skip the cut and paste, and merely reply at their Talk page. This has been a successful strategy. Fewer and fewer people are stopping by.

Regardless of the deletions, nothing is ever lost —— The Edit history is always in place. And others who that dislike me, for being a pain-in-the-neck (because I call attention to unreferenced/unverifiable scientific content, or because I call attention to truly rude treatment, for instance, of new editors by old ones, etc.)—those people routinely go through my Edit histories to find things to bother me about. (!) (This is one of the reasons I am retiring to write elsewhere.)

So, to close, I would invite you to visit my Edit histories to ensure nothing bad is going on. (No one is being misled, and the little extra work of looking to the Edit history, for the fewer and fewer deleted/moved entries—this is not so much work is it?) Also note, I have had this idea/practice reviewed by an editor and an administrator. While neither were excited about it, both indicated it was within my rights. To paraphrase, the answer was "Users are given quite a bit of freedom with their User, and User talk pages. As long as you are not doing anything to mislead people, you are fine to keep your talk page the way you like."

So, I am sure I am OK. Are you OK? With all respect, Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 04:34, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

@Leprof 7272: Sorry, I may have been a bit hasty on that first part, but I had your talk page, and when I think of my own comments being deleted... still, I was afraid that you might cause offense. In any case, thanks for your thorough reasoning here. I myself was being kind of ruse in jumping to conclusions, so I apologize for that. Sometimes, I may just be too sensitive, so sorry again, but thank you for giving me a considerate response. Dustin (talk) 04:58, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Oh, and by the way, I have seen other users who would just delete comments on their pages due to a refusal to speak to others; that's why I included the "if" earlier. Also, I am sorry if the Wikipedia community has been unkind to you. I hope I am not being one of those people driving you away, but if I am, again, sorry. I need to watch when I call others rude. I could have at least changed it to "please don't act like what some may consider rude" or something other... too late for that. Dustin (talk) 05:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
We are good, and I look forward to collaborating (in the non-wikipedia, positive, brick-and-mortar sense of that word). Have you seen the Paul Julian (meteorologist) article? What do you think? Some citations there that need skimming, and putting in, if the MJO is of any interest… Cheers. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 08:38, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I have seen that article. I noticed that when it was submitted at AfC, most of the content was deleted: Special:Diff/609746130. I don't really understand that. Also, because I didn't see reason to the original topic of Paul Julian to be more notable than the others, I moved Paul Julian to Paul Julian (artist), converted the now redirect Paul Julian to a disambiguation page, then finally, I had to go to Special:WhatLinksHere/Paul Julian and re-point every single link to Paul Julian to Paul Julian (artist). It took multiple days for me to finish, but I eventually did. I sometimes do the uninteresting things that no one else wants to bother to do... but I really don't care what they think. On some occasions, taking the time to make those really monotonous edits can actually be very beneficial. So don't take earlier too hard. That's all I think I have to say! =) Dustin (talk) 15:46, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Re:User:WhoopsIP2 "reviewed" by me (User:LightandDark2000)

Sorry about the late reply. Google Chrome crashed on my smartphone 3 times in a row when I tried to respond to your message (and I was kind of busy doing some other things, which prevented me from using my computer), so I wasn't able to respond right away. But to answer your question, I believe that you were notified that I had "reviewed" that user page because I had accidentally clicked the "mark as patrolled" button on the bottom of the page. That wasn't my intent, but apparently, that's what happens whenever someone "patrolls" a page that you are monitoring.

PS, my school year ended last Thursday, but now I have summer school in the mornings and swim team in the afternoon, so other than the weekends, I may not be able to contribute much except during the late afternoons (and mid-afternoons if I am extremely lucky). LightandDark2000 (talk) 23:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Has that button always been there? I have not seen it until now. In any case, thank you for the response. Dustin (talk) 14:40, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
No, I actually don't think that the button was always there (from what I was aware of). I think that only registered users are able to see/use that function (well, duh), but I didn't really notice it until some time this year (when Wikimedia sites began to undergo some major changes). LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:44, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Silly messages

Dustin, good grief. I hate to be rude, but could you stay out of everyone's business. I know exactly what I did; I hit the wrong rollback button. I don't usually leave a message if it isn't a big deal. I don't need to be told how to edit. I'm not sure what it is about you trying to correct everybody, but it is causing me to quit taking you seriously. Nobody wants to be corrected all the time. United States Man (talk) 14:31, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Then you should correct yourself and warn the IP. See Wikipedia:Reverting#Explain reverts. I believe your revert was in good faith, but other editors may not be able to tell that. I believe you should have had a similar response to what is expected should you accidentally use Wikipedia rollback. This is not just me being paranoid or whatever you may be thinking of me; this is how things are. Dustin (talk) 15:09, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, most importantly, if an editor has his/her good faith contribution rejected without explanation, he/she may jump to negative conclusions regarding those who edit the project. In this way, what may have eventually become a 10,000+ editor would never have really started editing due to being scared off the project. I know how it makes good faith contributors feel, and I know that it damages the project when editors are scared off. I am aware that the editor was an IP user, but many current editors started off as IPs. You should never revert anything apart from blatant vandalism or a BLP issue without providing reasoning somewhere, whether it be via an edit summary, the user's talk page, the article's talk page, etc. I mean, I know you don't like to be corrected, but if you fail to ever correct yourself in some situations, you are bound to scare off editors (not just with you, but with anyone is a similar situation). You may not know what it is like to have your contributions reverted without explanation, but I do, and many others do. I am just saying, even if it may appear minor to you, it may not appear so insignificant to others. Please understand me. Dustin (talk) 15:30, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Flag of the Federal State of Novorossiya for deletion

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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flag of the Federal State of Novorossiya until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Okay, thank you for notifying me of this. Dustin (talk) 12:41, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

3RR

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The report has been withdrawn, but I would advise you to caution against future edit warring, unless it happens to be vandalism or a blatant insertion of false information, in which case you would be free to revert on sight however many times necessary. But for this incident, if there is no requirement in the English grammar as to whether or not "tornado warning" should be capitalized, please discuss it on the article's talk page (if you haven't done so already). However, something for the IP (and the other users) to consider is that it is a meteorological article, meaning that if the Weather Channel or any weather agency capitalizes the spelling in their usage of that terms, then it should be capitalized here on Wikipedia. (To the other users) Please keep this in mind the next time you want to accuse someone over something so trivial as this. Dustin, the reason why I posted here wasn't because I wanted to meddle or anything; it's just that I don't want to see you get blocked. It wouldn't be cool if that happened. Anyways, good luck in your future dealings on issues like this. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
I don't consider this to be nosing in or anything like that. I appreciate your concern. However, I did in fact attempt to give my reasoning every time, so I would not consider this to be edit warring. Just see what I posted on the IP user's talk page. The IP did not check my contributions for attempts to display my reasoning, so I believe the report was faulty from the start. It matters what the official sources (from NOAA and the NWS) say, regardless of what all others might say. Dustin (talk) 00:58, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
I agree. That should definitely be the protocol. Unfortunately, not everyone else sees things that way, which is why we need to resolve arguements/conflicts like these whenever they arise. I kind of thought that something was off with the at report (especially when you consider the tone of it), and people just need to think before that act. After a discussion, they should get the point, but if any such reports like that one pop up again, feel free to report them if they are doing it to harass you, or just out of overreaction. After all, filing reports on other users without actually considering what they did or the reason behind their actions is not constructive at all. PS, if the weather agencies capitalize the spelling, then feel free to reflect that in the article. We should always apply terms the way official groups do, but if the editors here can't see that, then that's their problem. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:00, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
@LightandDark2000: Thank you for the response. Sorry for my late reply; I was online, but I was not on Wikipedia. In any case, I don't know if the IP user will reply. I mean, I do think that the IP actually may have believed I was edit warring, but I do think it was also much too hasty. The main thing that I did not like was that the IP appeared to be assuming bad faith of me without good reason. Again, thank you for your concern for a fellow editor, and thank you for the reply. Dustin (talk) 03:53, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Never mind the last bit of what I said earlier. I decided to make the changes to the article myself. And just a side note, since "Tornado Warning"'s article only has the first word capitalized, you need to format the title the way I did it (you can see the article history or my contribs for more details). Just bear this in mind in the future, since article titles aren't always configured the same way that we would usually capitalize them. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:22, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

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December 2013 North American ice storm

Greetings Dustin V.S.! May I ask you to help find some references on the United States sections of the article. Since I live in Canada, getting American results are somewhat limited. Best, ///EuroCarGT 06:00, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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Earthquakes

Just to continue my mentioning of images to you, I have uploaded two new images: File:Oklahoma 3.0 earthquake graph 2014-05-02.gif and File:Oklahoma seismicity map.pdf. I posted more information at User:Dustin V. S.#Oklahoma earthquakes, in case you find it interesting. I have been feeling these earthquakes all the time, and you live in California, so I thought you would be the one to mention it to. If possible, I might consider writing an article about it. I think that some of the sources indicated more earthquakes in Oklahoma than in California of 3.0+ magnitude on the moment magnitude scale. So, any comments? Thanks! Dustin (talk) 04:59, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

The only place I can really think of inserting that kind of information into is Earthquakes in 2014. But feel free to update it withe what you have shown me. LightandDark2000 (talk) 23:22, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
You don't have any thoughts to share regarding the events or perhaps the proposed independent article? I was thinking of creating an article of some sort, perhaps "Oklahoma earthquake swarms" or something similar; the earthquakes have been ongoing for long enough that I think there may be enough coverage. I found another link with a lot of graphics here. I believe this confirms that there have been more 3.0+ magnitude earthquakes in Oklahoma than in California (an obviously earthquake prone state, #2 after Alaska) in 2014, and the numbers are still on the rise. This ongoing event is unprecedented, and it is unlike anything I have ever observed from intraplate earthquake swarms in the past. Dustin (talk) 23:41, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
You mean the Oklahoma earthquake swarm from this year?? Go right ahead and start the article. I'm sorry, but I didn't really understand what you were actually getting at until now. But when you're done, link the new article to the one I me toned earlier, as this is very interesting. Here's a good title: 2014 Oklahoma earthquake swarm. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:15, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. By the way, I don't know if earthquakes interest you or not, but if I create an article, I will link it for you in case you want to read and/or edit it. Dustin (talk) 03:17, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Actually, I do have an interest in Earthquakes. (As a matter of fact, I was caught in the 2010 Baja California earthquake, my first major earthquake.) I also have an interest in volcanoes (most likely an obsession), and Geology. It's just that I haven't edited anything in those fields for a while. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:24, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
With this drastic increase in earthquakes, there is an elevated risk of 5.5+ earthquakes, and if a 6.0+ earthquake occurs, people could be killed with the non-earthquake-resistant structures. 6.0 earthquake once seemed like a distant fantasy, but not so much anymore... there was even a 5.6 magnitude earthquake in 2011, although the earthquakes have increased to a huge degree since then. Over 60,000 people nationwide reported feeling that earthquake... and the earthquakes have moved much closer to the Oklahoma City area since then. It is a swarm of swarms (see the link I provided). This is the new earthquake country. In any case, if you have anything else to add, please do so. Thanks! Dustin (talk) 03:37, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
That's already an ample amount of information that you could use to start the article. I highly encourage it, in fact. Remember to be bold, since after you start the article, other users will come along and fix the errors and add more information to it. Additionally, an article like that will attract thousands of viewers, so don't worry about whether or not you have enough information to get started with. LightandDark2000 (talk) 04:48, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
I started the article at User:Dustin V. S./Oklahoma earthquake swarms. I will probably soon be opening it for a lot more editors to edit soon when I will move it to draftspace, but this is it for now. It is a big deal, in my opinion. Thank you for the response! Dustin (talk) 05:48, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

You're very welcome. It's a start, to say the least. Another thing, if this trend really began in 2009, you may want to title the eventual article "2009–14 Oklahoma earthquake swarm. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:50, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

@LightandDark2000: Woah, that was a fast response! Also, I named it swarms because it is actually (literally) a swarm of swarms. See the link from earlier. This is a really interesting topic, in my opinion. Also, mainly because the current rate of earthquakes is unlikely to suddenly drop off (it is still increasing), I figured that I would eventually have to change the title, and since there haven't been any other major swarms of earthquake swarms (or any for that matter as far as I am aware), I decided to choose the title I did. Thanks for this response as well! I will tell you more about this once I have done more work. Dustin (talk) 05:56, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
It was fast because I happened to be editing a different area of articles at the time . But yes, this is quite an interesting development. I do hope that the earthquakes will taper off, because it will not be a good sign if they continue to increase in frequency or intensity. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:58, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

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I wasn't going to respond to such a silly question, but, check the past advisory archives on the NHC website. Also, please use a little common sense and go with the flow when it comes to these things. Instead of trying to do everything your own way, do things the way everyone else does and cooperate with other members of the project. It will cut out a lot of this.

Also, when/if you create a forecast track map, please do it through commons as everyone else does. It is easier to keep track of that way. Thanks, United States Man (talk) 21:56, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

I would appreciate it if you would stop treating me in such a way. That was a sincere question. Also, concerning the upload location, "everyone else" isn't entirely correct. See File:01E 2014 5day.gif. Dustin (talk) 22:03, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
That actually surprises me. I would've thought TAWX would've went through Commons. Anyway, I don't guess it matters all that much, as long as it is on there. United States Man (talk) 22:15, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I forgot to say, I also replied to you on Wikimedia Commons. Dustin (talk) 22:22, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for telling me (I had already forgotten). As you can probably tell, I don't get on Commons much. Anyway, in reply to that, that's alright; I just didn't know exactly why you were doing that. Sorry for being snappy above, but take what I said seriously in some situations. United States Man (talk) 22:30, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Tim Howard

"The user was evidently hiding change to Tim Howard with other edits". What kind of a nonsense statement is that? My other edits were just correcting grammar and punctuation. I was not "evidently" hiding any change. Skaterboy2012 (talk) 23:34, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Not hiding anything... like this edit? The other edits appear to have been okay, but I just figured you added the aforementioned edit first so it would be harder to track. Dustin (talk) 23:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @Skaterboy2012: Ah, you were just fixing parts of your Tim Howard-related addition. This isn't nonsense, just a misunderstanding on my part. After having been warned, while it is somewhat humorous whenever that is done, I would not suggest that you do that again. Dustin (talk) 03:54, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
WP:AGF.—CycloneIsaac (Talk) 03:45, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
@CycloneIsaac: AGF does not really apply here the way I see it... I was neither assuming good faith nor bad faith. Regardless, like I said above, while humorous, I would not suggest to that user to make those edits again in terms of his/her edit record (still mostly fine from what I can tell, so this individual instance won't make much difference alone). No bad faith assumptions are involved! =) Dustin (talk) 03:59, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

CKill1480 was the one who vandalized the Secretary of Defense page.

It was User:CKill1480 who vandalized the Secretary of Defense page. Please punish him by blocking him infinitely. You may be asking how I know this stuff? He confessed on my talk page.--69.112.113.84 (talk) 15:59, 3 July 2014 (UTC)69.112.113.84.

@69.112.113.84: If that user makes those edits again, then you may leave a level 2 warning. If the user does it again after that, leave a level 3 warning, and if the user does it again after that, leave a level 4 warning. If the user keeps on making changes such as that after a level 4 warning, you may report CKill1480 at WP:AIV. I cannot block the user because I am not an administrator, so just follow those instructions. Warning template may be found at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace/Multi-level templates. Thanks. Dustin (talk) 16:32, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

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You need...

...to stop reverting so often. Communication should take place on talk pages, not through edit histories. Please remember that you don't own any articles, and if you feel that people are constantly undoing or modifying your edits, there might be a reason. Edit warring is not restricted to multiple reversions on a single page, mind: reverting half a dozen good-faith edits in about a day also constitutes militant editing. If somebody makes a valid change that you disagree with, take it up with them and ask them to explain their thinking. Thanks. – Juliancolton | Talk 21:49, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

@Juliancolton: I am sorry about that. I just really don't like it when users don't leave edit summaries. Another part of this may be that I get lazy sometimes... I suppose that would be an issue on my part. I do sometimes revert good faith edits, but I try to give some reasons, and I don't like my good faith-assuming revert to get re-reverted without a reason being given. But yes, sorry. I need to be less impatient. Dustin (talk) 22:12, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Let's try this again

I suggest you try to be less sensitive next time around. As for the tag itself, why should Arthur have it and not any other current event-related articles? YE Pacific Hurricane 22:46, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

I really am sorry if I seem too sensitive. I didn't like that comment by Cloudchased. I do think the template should eventually be removed, I just think the template should be left for the next few days while the storm still gets the occasional news mention and other stuff. Dustin (talk) 22:48, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not a reason to revert edits or remove comments. {{Use mdy dates}} is used to indicate to bots to switch any citation dates to MDY format. This was already been done for all citations, so hence I removed it. Cloudchased (talk) 22:52, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

{{Use mdy dates}} should be standard for articles as they help maintain the integrity of the date formatting on the page and serve as guidance for bots when fixing links, references, etc. In short, in my opinion it's advantageous. TheAustinMan(Talk·Works) 22:50, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

While I would be frustrated if I was you over Cloudchased's comment, I happen to agree with some of the things he said and I personally am not a big fan of removing talk page messages. Back to the tag, should all current-event related articles have that tag then? YE Pacific Hurricane 22:56, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Cloudchased acted like I was removing the earlier section to hide a discussion regarding disruptive behavior, but I actually removed it because I considered the article-writing comment to be terrible, acting like I never write new content. That was completely unnecessary, and only did more bad against my mood. Also, I don't see why not have all current event-related articles tagged. The current articles tend to have the most references added, so as a result, they have the most dates added in the references. Do I make sense? If not, just ask, and I will try to clarify. Dustin (talk) 23:02, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Well, would removing the section really help? Regarding the tags, it makes sense. I mainly want some consistency; it's not exactly worth fighting tooth and nail over IMO. YE Pacific Hurricane 23:07, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
No. The template has nothing to do with current event articles at all; it indicates to bots to reformat citation dates, which were already correctly formatted. The way you continue to immaturely vehemently deny any wrongdoing or disruptive behavior is not helping whatsoever. Please read WP:IDONTLIKEIT. The comment raised valid concerns, and to be frank, you sound like you're making excuses. If you believe you articles were written well, why don't you submit them for GA status? Anyway, as long as you stop needlessly reverting edits and contribute positively, I'll drop this. You're not the only one who's getting their patience tested; I've been barely tolerating your behavior for the past few days. Cloudchased (talk) 23:13, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I suppose it doesn't do any good... the only time I remember removing a section prior to that was when I was warned by a user who gave me a faulty warning (that user was later indef-blocked as a vandal). To elaborate on what I said earlier, I think everyone should both try to leave edit summaries and try to discuss on talk pages, even if it is a minor issue even if the importance is low (not negligible). I obviously failed in that latter matter... Dustin (talk) 23:15, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
You removed the section I added. *cough* The issue, again, is not about edit summaries. You still have not acknowledged any disruptive behavior or displayed any understanding of the issue at hand.. Do so, carry on. Cloudchased (talk) 23:22, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
I am not denying wrongdoing. I have apologized multiple times for my actions. I am tired of this a hundred times over. I have not been making excuses. Dustin (talk) 23:17, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
You have not acknowledged the point. "I need to be less impatient." "I just really don't like it when users don't leave edit summaries." "Another part of this may be that I get lazy sometimes." None of those constitutes a clear understanding of what you are requested to stop doing. Cloudchased (talk) 23:22, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
While I agree it is better to discuss on talk instead of reverting, this issue was IMO minor enough to avoid a talk page discuss (or to be honest, edit warring about). I agree that you don't understand what you are doing wrong, which is having a habit of reverting too many edits. YE Pacific Hurricane 23:32, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
The issue was to stop multi-reverting without bringing up talk page discussions. I am sorry to have done that so much. Really. Being only a user talk page, what more is there to say? On a user talk page, you can't do much more than apologize after saying what the issue is. Dustin (talk) 23:43, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
In the future, will you try to minimize the amounts of times you revert, period? No offense, but that's what we're most annoyed at you in general. YE Pacific Hurricane 23:48, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Okay. There isn't any apparent loss in doing so. But I must ask, how do I deal with sneaky vandalism? If I don't revert unsourced edits such as to statistics and the editor refuses to ever comment, what do I do then? (I swear I am not bringing that up just as an excuse for certain purposes; it's a legitimate question.) Regardless of what I do, it will be hard to be nearly as restrictive on first reverts as on 2nd reverts because there are too many other issues. However, I will still do more talk page discussion before reverts though except for issues such as obvious vandalism. Thank you. Dustin (talk) 00:07, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
I forgot to say, sometimes when I do try to discuss on talk/user talk pages, no one ever replies. What do you think I should do then? It has happened multiple times, so... Thank you for responding! Dustin (talk) 00:10, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
"minimize the amounts of times you revert" does not mean do not revert at all. If someone makes a trivial change, don't revert. In regards to your second question, the answer is nothing. When that happens, it is usually trivial and probs not worth discussion. YE Pacific Hurricane 00:19, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Okay then. Dustin (talk) 00:25, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Just a note

Removing an entire section attempting to raise concerns about your disruptive behavior doesn't exactly put you in any more a positive light in the eyes of other editors. I didn't make any personal attacks in my edit. Yes, it might have been strongly worded, but that was only because I – and others – feel that your behavior has not been constructive and despite being warned, you seem to be unable to understand the point of these warnings. Cloudchased (talk) 22:51, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Despite being warned? Where? The only thing I might consider to have been a "warning" occurred after the matter. Dustin (talk) 23:06, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Above. You have still not yet acknowledged any understanding of the points raised by myself and other editors above. Is that not clear? Cloudchased (talk) 23:13, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
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Incorrect information on help page

Thanks for adding to the help page, but I think that you may lead a new editor astray with your comment. The article, Bhumihar, is semi-protected right now, so new editors and IPs cannot edit it. You may want to update you comment, as not to confuse the new editor. Thanks Piguy101 (talk) 00:24, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I was also busy doing something else. Thanks for leaving that comment, I will respond swiftly. Dustin (talk) 00:26, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
No problem. Piguy101 (talk) 00:30, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

RSMC

Please be aware of RSMC - Tokyo operated by the Japan Meteorological Agency. Despite some specific information, contents of a typhoon should be mainly based on RSMC, not JTWC. -- Meow 04:50, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

@Meow: Yes; the JMA is the official center so should be responsible for most of the information. I don't know if you are talking about the infobox... I was mainly trying to follow the tag which said <!--JTWC-->; the <!--RSMC--> tag wasn't there earlier, so... if you have anything else to say, I am willing to listen. Thank you for leaving this comment. Dustin (talk) 05:00, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Also, by the way, I am new on editing current typhoon articles. Do you have a link or something to help me with the RSMC? If you could provide that, it would really help. Thank you again. Dustin (talk) 05:04, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for chipping in, but do Regional Specialized Meteorological Center and tropical cyclone basins help you at all? YE Pacific Hurricane 05:29, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
@Yellow Evan: Sort of. I was just looking for a more specific link to use for Super Typhoon Neoguri. Maybe you can help there? This is kind of confusing me, so I hope you have patience... Thank you. Dustin (talk) 05:34, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Did you mean the current warning provided by the Japan Meteorological Agency? It is at the bottom of the Neoguri article. -- Meow 06:08, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Ooh... I only just saw this. It didn't ping me on my notifications for some reason. Well, thanks for pointing that out. The RSMC is the JMA, but the JTWC must be used for the relative location because the JMA does not provide that. Thank you again for the response. Dustin (talk) 18:38, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
JMA provides when a storm is affecting Japan. -- Meow 07:40, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:2014 Pacific hurricane season#Location of 5-day forecast maps

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:2014 Pacific hurricane season#Location of 5-day forecast maps--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 09:04, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

MODIS pictures

It is not necessary to use PNG for a MODIS picture on Wikipedia, so you can export it as a JPEG file with 95% quality. Moreover, border lines could be removed before you download it on the Worldwide View website. -- Meow 07:40, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Why should I remove border lines? They are faint enough as to make little difference, and they are better at revealing the actual location of an image. Also, I thought that I read somewhere about a preference for PNG files on Wikipedia over other file formats, and I don't get the thing about "exporting it as a JPEG file with 95% quality." Dustin (talk) 15:48, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
By adding the location information when uploading, anyone could understand where it is easily, and border lines really destroy the quality. PNG is preferred in Wikipedia but not for photographs, so it would be totally a waste of file size. You could download the PNG picture first and export it to a JPEG file. 95% is the value which would not hurt the quality of pictures when exporting. Why couldn’t you take a look at other people’s pictures? -- Meow 19:01, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Stop

Ok I will stop — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bldkiller7 (talk • contribs) 05:09, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

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