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Hello. The wikipedia entry you wrote for the Pomona Hotel Fire appears to draw extensively from both my MFA thesis and an article I submitted to the Oregon Historical Society several days prior to your article's creation. I understand we are both members of the Portland State community and I would be grateful if you would take this down or minimize the text until such time as my work has had the opportunity to be published. Thank you. MLSchepps (talk) 19:27, 1 April 2020 (UTC)ML Schepps

Hi, @MLSchepps: This is has to be a pure coincidence, as strange as that sounds—I did write this article back in September, but I assure you I did not use your thesis or an OHS article when writing it—all of the information was gleaned from newspaper articles that are cited in the footnotes, most of which I excised myself on Newspapers.com (my username there is the same as it is here, and the clippings should come up as having been done by me). Is it possible we merely both cited the same newspaper articles?

If you did in fact submit a thesis at this same time, the similarity is purely serendipitous. The timing is admittedly very strange. I am an alumnus of Portland State but have not been a student there in many years, and I assure you I do not have access to current students' pending theses. I don't know if I can delete the article or what could possibly be done to mitigate this, but I promise you I did not crib or plagiarize of your thesis, nor did/do I have access to it. I have an MA myself and would never, under any circumstances, copy someone's work. --Drown Soda (talk) 22:00, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

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Interesting development with Tom Hagen who was arrested today for the alleged murder and faked kidnapping of his wife.--BabbaQ (talk) 10:09, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Oldest case solved by DNA was announced a few days ago. [1]BabbaQ (talk) 17:40, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

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@Doniago: I added the category because a mass poisoning is a central element to the plot; it was not described in the current plot summary, but I've elucidated it and have restored the category. --Drown Soda (talk) 22:50, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up! DonIago (talk) 23:32, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hello Drown Soda, For about a week now, I have been working on a draft on an obscure 1985 horror film called Attack of the Beast Creatures and I am in need of some assistance tracking down some information on the film's production and releases. Since you are pretty good at gathering obscure sources I was wondering if you could do a little digging and see what you can come up with (you don't really need to add the information as I can do that part myself. If you are willing to do so please feel free to let me know.--Paleface Jack (talk) 23:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Paleface Jack: I did a search through Newspapers.com and only came across a couple of mentions regarding this film's home video release; it's mentioned in this New York Daily News article, and briefly in this Los Angeles Times article. I couldn't find anything other than those, but I can check again. I looked at your draft and it looks like you have all the substantial book sources I could find from running a search on Google Books. --Drown Soda (talk) 21:06, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I found a VERY rare interview with the director today that I will start incorporating tomorrow. The main thing I need is a plot expansion, but other than that I think I am good.--Paleface Jack (talk) 21:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

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A Continued Collaboration of Sorts

Hello Drown Soda, I just wanted to congratulate you on your continued work through various WikiProjects and offer you a proposition of sorts. For a while now I have been working on an article for the Old West serial killer Stephen Dee Richards, which was recently passed as GA. My plan with the article is to get it all up to Featured Status, but there are some tasks I want to get done on it before I submit it. Since you are also a part of the same Old West task force, specializing in roughly the same subjects, I thought it would be beneficial to have a continued collaboration on expanding articles up to Good and Featured Status, which would start with the Richards article. I have already jotted down a list of tasks that I was going to do myself but if you can help me with that, I think it will all go a lot smoother (and relatively quicker). If you are or are not interested in this, please let me know. Sincerely, --Paleface Jack (talk) 15:53, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Paleface Jack: I would be happy to assist where I can; let me know and I can try and do some work on it where I have time. --Drown Soda (talk) 17:11, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Right now I am going to be scanning over all the sources I have used in the article to see if there is anything I have missed. Depending on whether or not you would be willing to do this, I have been trying to find additional images on Richards but have been coming up near empty-handed. I did find one (an illustration on his execution) but it can only be used (hopefully) by requesting it at the Nebraska Historical Society which I have. In the meantime, I have been scouring the corners of the web in hopes of finding an actual photograph as there is a mention of it in one of the newspaper reports and behavior of such people at the time makes it likely that there is one out there. If we can both put our heads together on this we can hopefully turn up something (who knows it might be in a photo archive or something). If you can help me with this and some additional searching feel free to let me know or you can look at the list of tasks that I added on the article's talk page.--Paleface Jack (talk) 17:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hello Drown Soda, can you please expand the Jean Negulesco article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.124.48.57 (talk) 19:42, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

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Sources for Sosie Bacon's WP:DOB

Combining an WP:RSP and WP:SYN is a really bad practice. If you don't have a solid source for it, the date should not be there. Toddst1 (talk) 00:50, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

@Toddst1: I didn't even realize I was doing this to be honest, though I can see why it poses problems. That being said, I have to ask: Would using one instead of both of the sources qualify as reliable? Neither source disputes the other; if anything, the newspaper source seems to be reliable confirmation that she was at least born in March 1992. --Drown Soda (talk) 10:33, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, the newspaper could support March 92, but not a specific day. Toddst1 (talk) 17:38, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

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Create the Fifth Season page

Hi Drown Soda, can you create the Fifth Season page (formerly Trans World International, IMG Entertainment, IMG Productions, IMG Original Content and Endeavor Content) for me pretty please. JacHarv (talk) 18:23, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

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Dear Drown Soda! Can you add sources and news in article about The Witches Mountain? Thank you! --2A00:1FA0:C41A:12C4:A9CF:62AA:9A3:C66F (talk) 11:18, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

The Last Horror Film

Hi @Drown Soda,

While I appreciate and thank you for proof reading The Last Horror Film. The page was a complete gong show. Now I have some disagreement with some of the stuff you added.

While this is debatable you changed the headings. I realized after editing them back the way I did it, that the way you did it was fine just another approach. Just do what you feel is right there.

While I may be wrong about that, I didn't think that it's partially lost film status should be locked in with releases unless. I think its two different matters.

But I do think it's doable. As the article mentions its limited theatrical release and limited VHS run.

I do think that the bit about about Troma licensing the film to Severin, was a bit much and the citation comes from Facebook, also there is nothing that confirms that they own the film prior. I feel it lacked of context and good citation.

For the Severin release, I felt you go way too deep into their packaging instead of the simple the fact of the film rediscovery. It almost feels like a promo.

I felt that David Gregory's statement, was a bit irrelevant for this article but has a place on the page of List of incomplete or partially lost films (where I moved it) and List of rediscovered film footage.

Anyways let's chat it's no worries. Filmman3000 (talk) 14:28, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

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Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2

Hello DrownSoda, I noticed you expanded the article on Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2. Just wanted you to know I had a huge expansion on Leatherface, however a lot of the information needs to be trimmed and refined but some information that could be transferred into the respective film articles is there on. my archived revision draft if you want to take a look. I will probably return to refining the Leatherface article in the near future after finishing a couple more articles but until then just wanted to give you a heads up Paleface Jack (talk) 02:07, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi Paleface Jack, thanks for the heads up—I will try and take a look at this in the near future. --Drown Soda (talk) 17:02, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Ethan Hawke is English, Scottish, Irish and Cornish

Robert Thurman is of English, German, Scottish, and Irish descent. Should we include all of them? Why is Swedish more important? Serendi^podous 08:10, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

My point was not that her Swedish ancestry was more important; it is simply that it was the only one I could find a published source for that pertained directly to Maya Hawke. I suppose you could use the citations regarding her father's ancestry as sources in her article to flesh out the rest of the picture, but I'm trepidatious about doing things like that only because the references aren't describing the subject at hand (even though common sense would likely overrule that). Obviously she has other countries/ethnicities in her background—it's just a matter of finding a reliable source that supports all of them. This is why I only listed Swedish, since it could be supported by a source which attributed it to her. --Drown Soda (talk) 05:00, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Death Bed

Hello Soda, It's been a while since we chatted. Anyways, I have been meaning to expand the article on Death Bed since I have the proper sources to do so and saw you were editing the article. If you plan on getting it to GA, then I can help. if not, I can try that. I have a bunch of other projects I have been working in incrementally, including expanding the Eyes of Fire film entry on here via my separate userspace. I can always use your help with those things but if you are busy I understand. Paleface Jack (talk) 01:43, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Use of sources for WP:BLP

Hi, I've been noticing that you've been using certain sites as sources for actor details such as WP:DOB. Rotten Tomatoes in particular. A few months ago there was a RFC regarding it and the consensus is that it's fine to use for stuff such as TV and movies, but not for WP:BLP as it's not a journalism site and it's main purpose is film aggregation.[3] You also can't just use whatever websites you find online that show a DOB without considering whether or not it's a reliable source. Many of them don't indicate where they got that info from and many of them have the incorrect DOB listed for other actors. For all we know they could be web scraping. That's why the consensus for Rotten Tomatoes was made.

When it comes to WP:BLP the number of reliable sources is quite slim and there are only very few acceptable options. A truly reliable Secondary source(IE a magazine such as Entertainment Weekly, Los Angeles Times or New York Times. And preferably multiple of these) reporting their exact DOB. Or a social media post from the subject themselves where he or she confirms his or her birthday and preferably either his or her age or YOB in the same post as well. Failing either any of these, that info should kept out of articles for the time being. Kcj5062 (talk) 00:53, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

@Kcj5062: thank you for this information. I know reliable sources for birthdates has been a topic of contention here, but I wasn't aware that Rotten Tomatoes didn't fall under that category anymore (though I understand why—I have to wonder if some of their sourcing comes from places like IMDb, though there isn't really a way to tell). I will keep note of using social media sources for birthdates from the confirmed subjects—I tended to shy away from those because they are firsthand sources rather than secondary reported ones. --Drown Soda (talk) 01:40, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

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Sorry, couldn't resist a title like that in this context. ;-) Kudos on your expansion of Dogs (Nina Nastasia album), which you did several years ago but I only just noticed. Great work. If you ever feel like expanding the article even further, I thought I'd point you towards this. Uncut magazine did an extensive feature with Nina in July 2022, where she discussed all her albums in-depth. Unfortunately, content for The Blackened Air to Riderless Horse is exclusive to the physical magazine, but they posted the Dogs stuff online. Thought you might be interested, if you feel like expanding on your work. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 23:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

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