User talk:Drmies/Archive 11

For my pal, CoM.

Miracle of the roses

"And he had made a trumpet of his rump." Inferno XXI.

I just read this article. Interesting - it shed light on the mythological context for something that happens in a novel I'm reading now, Small Favor. Water coming out of a sprinkler system in a building is described as stagnant and stinky; however, after a Knight of the Cross uses his holy sword to kill a bunch of hobs, the water smells like roses. LadyofShalott 12:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, the rose does that sort of thing. You find one at the end of the Divine Comedy also; maybe you should read that next (I just finished The God of Small Things last night). Did you see this? Drmies (talk) 15:39, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I do need to read the Divine Comedy! I bought a copy of the Inferno a while back, but haven't actually read it yet. That's cool about the article; no I had not seen it previously. :) I may have to see if the university library here carries that journal. LadyofShalott 20:30, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Ha, we don't even have it, but big Auburn does (electronically). The Comedy is great; which translation do you have? I teach Mandelbaum's--cheap and good. Drmies (talk) 20:37, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't remember right off (and it's not where I am right now) - it's whatever version Barnes and Noble has for their bargain editions. LadyofShalott 23:03, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Whoa. I hate to break it to you, but you're in for a ride--it's Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's (available on the internet, copyright free). I once had a couple of students who thought they'd save money, and they never got through it. Say the word and I'll send you a different translation! Drmies (talk) 23:30, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Ah, that does sound right. (And I did start it right after I got it, but never read more than a few pages. It looks like I can borrow Mandelbaum's translation through PINES. Is that the one you'd recommend? If I had another translation, I'd probably have fun making comparisons of some of the passages. LadyofShalott 00:39, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

<--Yes, I think Mandelbaum's is good (I'm no expert on Italian, though) and it has nice pictures and good notes, and a cool map of hell. And it's cheap ($6 for the Bantam pocket). Drmies (talk) 02:36, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If I want a copy I'd better hurry. Tiderolls 06:00, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Whoa, what's going on down there? Is there no B&N at all anymore? The one in Tuscaloosa is nice--we could meet for coffee there before some spring training session! And maybe Altairisfar and the Lady will join us...will someone drop User:Alarob a line to invite them? Drmies (talk) 15:11, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

That stinks, Tide. I think all the brick and mortar bookstores have been having a hard time competing with online retailers. LadyofShalott 16:05, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

• Seriously, one of these days we need to have an AlaWiki conference, with barbecue, wings, and wine. Y'all should come up for this. Drmies (talk) 15:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

That would be neat! LadyofShalott 16:05, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

(Although I still can't make that book conference this year. One of these days, I won't have to work every Saturday.) LadyofShalott 16:08, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Message to Drmies

You sent me message about my edit to Disturbia(film). I didn't know I put a lot of info in plot. How am I supposed to know? Isn't alot of info important? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.88.78.94 (talk) 05:06, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

• You have been told a number of times now that your edits are not according to Wikipedia's guidelines. I just left you a message on your talk page telling you to look at WP:FILMPLOT, the same thing User:Deftonesderrick told you yesterday. You've been blocked at least once for disruptive editing. To say now that you didn't know, no one will accept that. And to answer your question, no, that is not important, and if you look at your own contribution you will see that all of them are continuously reverted by other editors--such as here. Besides, those edits suffer from great grammatical problems, and you continue to insert personal commentary into plot summaries, which, as I have pointed out to you before, is a no-no.

  If you continue to edit the way that you are, you might face a longer block than you got last time. Drmies (talk) 05:11, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

  • And stop blanking your talk page--it suggests that you are not paying attention to what other editors say, which explains why you started asking me the question you did--"how am I supposed to know". Well, you've been told plenty of times. Drmies (talk) 05:14, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

New Message

Hello Drmies, I'm really sorry. It was hard for me to understand Wikipedia's guidelines. Can you please tell me why does there have to be limit of info for plot? What's total amount of word has to be in plot? I want to know clearly so I don't disrupt editing. When I look at my user talk page, I reply to messages. After I reply, I delete them. Is it okay for me to delete them after I reply? If I'm blocked from editing, then is it possible to send messages to you or other user talk pages. If it's possible, then how do I do it? Hope I'm not vandalizing your talk page. Again, why's it bad to put alot of info in plot? I type every detail for movie, because some people want to know everything that happens in film. I added some info to Disturbia(film). If I edited Disturbia film plot in bad way, then you could delete it. Fine with me.(--99.88.78.94 (talk) 02:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC))

• No, you're not vandalizing my talk page, don't worry. You shouldn't delete messages; you should archive your talk page (see WP:ARCHIVE), even if only for your own sake--you would have seen the recommendation to read WP:FILMPLOT a couple of times. And no, it's not a good idea to put every detail in there. This is an encyclopedia, not an exhaustive fount of knowledge: people do not want to know every detail. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 03:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

2nd message

Hi it's me again. I received your message so many times. I'm just asking when I'm editing, what's the limit of info. --99.88.78.94 (talk) 02:09, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

• Look up the page, where it says "read WP:FILMPLOT". Same thing it says (or said) on your talk page a couple of times. Drmies (talk) 03:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I have replied to your message on my talk page. Eagles 24/7 (C) 04:35, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

File:Goya sofrito.JPG listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Goya sofrito.JPG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 19:47, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

• No! Damn deletionists... Drmies (talk) 01:16, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Phi Beta Sigma

Phi Beta Sigma has been vandalized again by the same user. A lot of information is missing.--Coquidragon (talk) 00:30, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

• They won't be doing that anymore. Hey, did I see a Puerto Rico box on your user page? Have a look at sofrito. Drmies (talk) 02:13, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

BIOSIS and Geotomez

It appears that Geotomez is the author of the book that he cites. The book is self-published, and I have not yet found any reviews of it. He is correct that the founding date was 1926. I must have mistyped it originally. "The J.R.S. Foundation" but not "The J.R.S. Biodiversity Foundation" is supported by other sources, Business Wire for example, but apparently the attempted name change didn't last, as news reports continued to refer to it as BIOSIS. --Bejnar (talk) 04:52, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for your note, and for exercising patience in your edits to the article. I don't understand incommunicado editors. Drmies (talk) 14:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Note of return

Have now returned from an extended work-related absence. Left a note for you on my User Talk page; then decided it would be well to come here to point you to it. Looking forward to resuming my interrupted tasks here. Happy spring! PrairyWriterGuy (talk) 09:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for your note. I'm having a busy semester myself and am not as working as much here as I did before; feel free to drop me a line anytime you like. Happy editing! Drmies (talk) 14:38, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ann K. Schwader

Thank you for pointing me to WP:Author, I was not aware that the Wikipedia:Notability criteria were so finely grained. Thepisky (talk) 18:36, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

• Sure thing. It's the author's variety of "existence doesn't mean notability," I reckon. Another way of putting is that books published by an author are "only" primary sources and don't, in their own right, establish notability, esp. given the plenitude of vanity and DIY presses. Later, Drmies (talk) 18:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Groove metal

Hey Drmies, how's it going? I noticed you recently edited the groove metal article and I need some outside opinion with the issues with that article. Should the article be put up for deletion or not? I've searched high and low, but they're doesn't seem to be very much info on the topic. What's your take on the situation? RG (talk) 19:07, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

• Hey RG, thanks for your note. I gotta say, I don't see much notability there (if your searches were done accurately, which I don't really doubt). Now, if you really want to get rid of the genre, ask Sugar Bear, haha. Seriously, a redirect (but where?) would be a good thing. Have you asked Blackmetalbaz, Portillo, and Cannibaloki? I value their opinion. Thanks, and take it easy, Drmies (talk) 19:32, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

The only things I could find on it were a Blender entry refering to a GNR song and Pantera's Allmusic bio. Musicmight uses the term sometimes, but they are a user edited website making it likely unreliable. I discuss the topic with other users here. In the mean time, have a good one. RG (talk) 20:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I saw your note on the talk page. If you nominate it for deletion, please let me know. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 20:20, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I seriously didn't want to do it, but I've nominated the article for deletion. "Deletionist", I personally find to be a dirty term and it's not something that I really don't want to be associated with. RG (talk) 02:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

See note on your talk page. Drmies (talk) 05:05, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

No apology needed. I wasn't aware of the fact that you couldn't PROD an article previously put up for deletion. RG (talk) 18:17, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, I think I finally got this deletion thing right. Feel free to comment on the discussion. Again, I absolutely hate to be the one who pulls the plug on this, but I just don't see any notability. RG (talk) 00:01, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

New Weird

Nice work cutting out a lot of the problematic material in the New Weird entry. I've reinstated the definition section only because 1) I felt like this cut left a vacuum and 2) I think Jeff VanderMeer is a notable source for the discussion. Still, I agree that the definition section (and the rest of the article) needs work. Just thought I'd drop you a message to explain. --Junius49 (talk) 00:57, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

• I appreciate the explanation and the courtesy. Still, it is too problematic to retain. First of all, the quote is way too long and gives undue weight in terms of length (it's as long as the actual article) and authorship (it elevates VanderMeer to the status of sole authority--and he is noted as a writer in the genre) and is written in a kind of jargon inappropriate to an encyclopedic article. Also, no reference is given, Tachyon isn't a very notable publisher, and the rest of the section, proposing all this debate (of which there is no evidence whatsoever), has nothing but fact tags. I'm sorry, but I am going to remove it. Reinstate text that is verified, please? Drmies (talk) 02:57, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Asaram Bapu

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Thanks, this was quite enjoyable. —Joshua Scott (LiberalFascist) 16:00, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: Eyes of the Insane

Replied on my talk page. LuciferMorgan (talk) 20:43, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

As far as the musical structure goes in songs, I know hardly anything, so I wouldn't let it stop you from writing on music. To answer your question, you can't have any original research in a music article. Any comments as regards musical structure and composition you need to have cited really. If you wish to take it to GA/FA, the Santana article, drop in at WP:ALM and ask some of the experts over there for some advice - without doubt, the lead would need expanding on. LuciferMorgan (talk) 10:08, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Young Buck =

As seen here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Young_Buck&diff=355859576&oldid=355859453 I wasn't doing vandalism but reverting it. So I deleted the un-needed warning from my IPs talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.163.213.249 (talk) 00:02, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

• Odd, considering that an act of vandalism came from the exact same IP in the same minute. Drmies (talk) 00:55, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

YouTube as a source

I'm not sure I understand or agree with your edit summary on this edit to Earth Day. The fact in question is that CBS used a particular logo in a particular broadcast. Is not a video of that broadcast a valid reference to that fact. One can view the reference and verify the fact. Isn't that the point of the reference in the first place? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for your note, Dan. Well, that it's a primary source, I don't see how you could disagree with that. But beyond that, I think that in this case a few statements can be made based on YouTube--but not a decision about CBS's decision making process, as mild as it is here, or the quantification of the "largest segment" part. Look at my rephrasing of it. Sourcing in that article is, in all honesty, pretty bad anyway--way too many claims are referenced with links to organizational websites (the first nine of them), and many of them indicate (like the statement currently verified by note 9) a measure of original research not wholly appropriate to Wikipedia. Drmies (talk) 13:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

• I see what you mean. Thanks for the clarification -- I'm always looking to learn more about the project, especially the validity of various sources. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:22, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

• I was going to leave you a talk back template, but you beat me to it. I think there is some grayness in this area, which is why I didn't remove the entire section saying "no YouTube stuff here," and I wonder if there is some discussion somewhere as to what can and cannot be sourced from what kinds of YouTube material. If you ever run into such a discussion, I'd appreciate it if you could drop me a line. Thanks, and take it easy! Drmies (talk) 13:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk Back

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Drunken ramblings

Hehe, I don't normally go around stalking you, but I did happen to check your contributions just now, and I was surprised to see you mention me in an edit summary. I'll have to check out a Grand Cru sometime, although the Triple Imperiale intrigues me with its 10% alcohol. I see that you also edited Regenboog Brewery, which I mention only because the similar word "regenbogen" is my favorite German word. [I only know the word because it was included in the title of a painting I saw in Munich's Alte Pinakothek (or was it the Neue Pinakothek?)] It's good to know that I'm not the only one who is sometimes guilty of DWI (doing Wiki intoxicated). BTW, I seem to be seeing a lot less of 99 these days (unless there's a new level of stealth), but the registered alter ego has been a lot more active. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:58, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey Doc

What's happening? Just had a BBQ, not Mongolian, more South African, those guys can sure make lousy steak turn out good, especially when they are cooking it over home made grills made of 45 gallon drums split in half. The weather is warming up 18 today (in "rest of the world degrees"), with not much wind. Cheers. --kelapstick (talk) 11:55, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

• Hey K, good to hear from you. Sorry I haven't gotten back to you yet, been kind of busy, but I'll drop you a line soon. I had barbecue for lunch today and yesterday, and last night for dinner, so I'm good for now, but I'm glad you're enjoying it. Thanks for the help on that Novotel hotel, by the way, and thanks to the lady also!

  PS Lady, it was great fun today--especially this guy. Drmies (talk) 21:30, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I love Pete the Cat! I so want a Pete print. Glad you had a good time!LadyofShalott 16:17, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I am about 300 charachters from expanding Oyuu Tolgoi to DYKable (see User:Kelapstick/Oyuu Tolgoi, it really should be at Oyu Tolgoi mine or Oyu Tolgoi project). Anyway I am done for the day, but I could use some of your excellent proof reading skills to cross my t's and dot my lower case j's. I have been scrounging for something reliable to say that the shaft is the largest (diameter and in depth) in the country, but haven't found anything (poor internet connection and lack of time). The #2 Shaft is going to be HUGE (that's what she said), 10m diameter, nothing like that in Canada. That I know of anyway. Hopefully I can find more in the coming days, but I would appreciate your assistance, I see a dynamite hook in there somewhere. Cheers.--kelapstick (talk) 13:41, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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Merge Reply

Yes will do, sorry I'll keep it in mind in future since I merged articles in List of Neon GenesisEvangelion albums I will amend this quickly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Necrojesta (talk • contribs) 19:26, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks. I have made the same mistake in the past; I think undoing, then repasting the content in the target article, and then editing it should do the trick--but all edit summaries must say where something is going and where it is coming from. Also, please don't forget to sign your name. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 19:27, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes my signature isn't finished about to edit it, otherwise even when I sign it doesn't really count since there is no link to my talkpage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Necrojesta (talk • contribs) 19:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Sure it counts. Just sign four tildes, ~~~~. Look above at your own signature, courtesy of Sinebot. Drmies (talk) 19:31, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

there, I had checked sign my name exactly as shown, my mistake. Necrojesta (talk) 19:34, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

• Look at that--you look great. Drmies (talk) 19:35, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

7 days a week at the job doesn't make for much editing

Yes, I know it's been a while, but my job (architecture) has put me on a seven day a week schedule for some time now. I tried the doughnut challenge, however, after calling specialty doughnut shops up and down the Hudson Valley, I could not find anyone who was selling that particular derivative of oliebollen. So much for the homogenization of our culture!

Could you possibly sidle over to my talk page and take a quick look at a Biographical information section that I'm working on for the Dale Bozzio page? It would replace her Career section. Also, the Personal life section would be deleted. Since I have found it awkward to separate her work outside of the music business into its own section, I thought that a Biographical information section would be more appropriate. It would be followed by as yet unwritten sections that would detail her work with Frank Zappa and Missing Persons. What do you think? Doc2234 (talk) 00:05, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

• Hey Doc, I'd love to have another look at it (the basic setup, I understand the struggle--I agree that very often these two things come together pretty quickly), but it will be a couple of days before I have time...Thanks for your note though, and welcome back. BTW, I made some oliebollen for New Year's, and they were delicious. Drmies (talk) 19:03, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Thank you! Doc2234 (talk) 08:51, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Mandelbaum

My hold on Allen Mandelbaum's translation of the Inferno came in today. :) LadyofShalott 18:47, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

• Happy reading! And you have facing page translations, wonderful. Have a look at 1.8-9, and you'll note there's no "also" in the Italian. Drmies (talk) 20:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Asaram Bapu

Looks like User:Fragin2010 reverted to an old version (I couldn't figure out which one) that wiped out all the improvements. I've reverted. I thought I'd let you know, since you seem to be more familiar with the article. —Joshua Scott (LiberalFascist) 01:28, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Cherrypal

Hi, thanks for notifying me about the reversions. Do you think Cherrypal is a legitimate company? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blownfire (talk • contribs) 04:48, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

From the top

you want to tell me why you're tagging my page for speedy deletion? (Itskyleharris (talk) 23:30, 23 April 2010 (UTC))

• I didn't. Check the article history--and I gave you the explanation for why this could be considered a candidate for speedy deletion on the article's talk page. Drmies (talk) 23:33, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Thank you for quickly removing the heavy vandalism from my talk page. Imperial Monarch (D•R) 02:26, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

• My pleasure. Drmies (talk) 23:15, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Door in face

Quite sorry about this link reinsertion. It was totally my mistake, and I put it back the way you had it. If it is meaningful to you, I assure you that I checked all of this guy's links (he had two here, then one about windows on another page) and found them all to be irrelevant to the article's subject. Then when I wanted to revert them, I failed to notice that you already had. By this I want to convey that my problem is a rectifiable lack of attention, and not inability to recognize a poor link. If you have further thoughts then bring them to me; I will try to be more careful. Blue Rasberry 02:33, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

• Hey Blue, thanks for your note--I figured you had done the homework, I just wanted to make sure. Thanks, and happy editing! Drmies (talk) 11:47, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Boba Phat

An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Boba Phat. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Wikipedia:Notability and "What Wikipedia is not").

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Boba Phat at AFD again

An AFD you participated in 6 months ago, is being done again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Boba_Phat_(2nd_nomination) Dream Focus 08:23, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Doc, I can't believe we have such differing opinions on such an important subject....I thought I knew you...--kelapstick (talk) 10:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

That's what my wife said too. BTW, DreamFocus, thanks for letting me know--I appreciate that you would engage in what amounts to anti-canvassing. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 03:18, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

BTW, K-stick, we're talking about a dude who dresses up as Darth Vader and goes to conventions, right? Not exactly a bacon explosion... Drmies (talk) 03:19, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Err, why isn't that notable doc? Do you do it? If not, it should be. —SpacemanSpiff 06:13, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Delete Drmies, for not knowing the difference between Darth Vader and Boba Fett. Mrs. Drmies is invited over the next time we have Bacon Explosion. You can stay home...--kelapstick (talk) 10:46, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. Well, if that is enough reason for deletion, then I'm gone! Spiff, I looked at the video, and all I can say is WTF. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 14:43, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

I think the standards of notability have dropped heavily since that unsourced BLP thingy started. I haven't been around AfD for a while, but found this out based on participating in a few over the last couple of weeks. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 15:01, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, as the case of Kunej proves abundantly! Thanks Spiff, and have a great day. Drmies (talk) 15:02, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone planning on asking for a review of the Kunej case? It seems I'm not the only one who felt the closing admin misinterpreted the results. Respectfully, Agricola44 (talk) 18:33, 28 April 2010 (UTC).

<--Hey Agricola, I don't know. I see a couple of "weak keeps" from experienced editors, and a couple of "keeps" from relatively new editors, and I'm not impressed by any of them. The only strong keep from an experienced editor is from Turqoise themselves. I don't believe that this was the greatest closing I've ever seen, to put it mildly, but at the same time I'm sick of it: it's an autobiography of a non-notable person, period. However, Turqoise has already accused me of bias (in the first AfD they accused me of hating Croatians, or some such silly thing); this playing the victim mode is so irritating, and these hounding accusations so easily thrown around, that I don't feel like I want or should bring this up. I do believe that on further review the article itself won't stand up. I do thank you, though, for your level-headed and policy-oriented arguments, and I am impressed by your coolness under pressure. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 20:04, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks. I'm fatigued as well, having spent way too much time on that discussion. The subject is very pugnacious and it seems that none of the folks who felt it should be deleted (with good cause) has the appetite to escalate this. FYI, I've simply added a dissenting statement on the notability verdict to Talk:Kresimir Chris Kunej. My guess is that someone else will prod or AfD this article in the future anyway. Thanks, Agricola44 (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2010 (UTC).

Genre Page

With all due respect, I believe it is in the best interest of the Genre page if you would restrain yourself from such heavy-handed edits, especially when drastic revision was called for for years on the talk page.

In response to your denigration of the theorists under History as "non-notable," I am forced challenge your understanding of the concept of genre (which is what the page is for), since especially Bitzer and Devitt contributed heavily to aforementioned concept. Granted, rewrites are extremely warranted and welcome, but blanking entire sections and literally setting back the section over two millennia is not conducive to a thorough and professional page.

In essence, I ask you to, rather than erase sections, use whatever knowledge you have of the topic to rewrite and enhance or replace what has been written with something of comparable value and do not dismiss scholars as "non-notable" simply because they aren't household names. - Sanguination (talk) 05:13, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

• For a critic to get a full paragraph or more on Wikipedia, they have to be household names--that's the nature of the beast. These are not term papers, they are encyclopedic articles. Your group's edits, while I applaud the effort, do not entirely conform to Wikipedia guidelines by placing undue weight on a number of lesser-known critics, and even (as I see now in the second paragraph of the "history" section) the bigger ones, Plato in this case, are treated indirectly, via the words of another critic. Not that Genette isn't notable in his own right, but one could hardly expect a structuralist critic to provide an encyclopedic overview of an earlier theorist: those are the kinds of things one finds in an essay, not in an encyclopedic article, and with all due respect, as an editor here and as someone employed in the business of teaching literature I think I can distinguish the two. That you would call my edits "setting back the section over two millenia" speaks volumes--you'd consider Plato useless unless a (post-) structuralist had addressed him, it seems. Anyway, while I dispute your contention about "the best interest of the Genre page," and while I believe that the history of the article clearly reveals that "heavy-handed" edits were made by you and yours, I will leave it alone for the while. I have left a note at the talk page also, urging you and yours to follow Tenebrae's advice. Thanks for your message. Drmies (talk) 14:41, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

I was just lazy and didn't log in --67.119.90.98 (talk) 17:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC) AKA Kevin Murray

• I figured I wasn't dealing with a newbie. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Re:User talk:203.202.234.226 and my talk page.

You are correct. I am sorry, and will be more careful in the future. :) --MithrandirAgain (talk) 03:30, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

• Sure thing. As you can see on the talk page, I was momentarily puzzled also--but especially when you're leaving a level-3 warning, you should make sure that it is absolutely justified. Take care, Drmies (talk) 03:32, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not a vandal! Kendrick Meek

Please pay attention to the revision history (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kendrick_Meek&action=history) before tagging an IP as a vandal. Now people think this IP is racist. I was just trying to clarify the petition section. I guess somehow the section that was vandalized by 98.207.79.173 got reintroduced because Mcydoogle and I were making simultaneous edits.

• Maybe you should be more careful then, reintroducing the subject as "Kendrick Nigger Meek". What you say is possible, but there is no way to deduce that from the history. The Preview button is a great device, please use it, and when you see an edit conflict, don't just overwrite the previous editor. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 14:05, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Likewise, when you reverse vandalism, please look at *all* of the changes before reverting to a previous version and tagging the IP as a vandal. Wikipedia has a handy "compare selected versions" that you can use. If you're unfamiliar with it, try googling or something.

• Wait--you want me to apologize for removing the word "Nigger," which you were responsible for, from the article on an African-American politician? Are you kidding? Drmies (talk) 18:04, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

No I want you to apologize for suggesting I put it there intentionally.

• I already removed the vandal warning, which was perfectly justified, since there was every indication that you used a racist slur on purpose, and there was no indication you were just being incredibly careless. You're an idiot, and you owe an apology to representative Meed and to the mother who gave birth to you--and I cheerfully bid you a good day! Drmies (talk) 20:04, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Message to Drmies

You sent me a notice regarding providing references for Colonie High School informational page. I'm some what curious. There are NO references for ANY of the claims on the page, yet, it has content. How is this? I provided names of people for when I went to school there that I know made something special of themselves. I think I am within my right and experience to announce these individuals. Are you an Alumni? If you are so concerned about reference, can you explain to me on that page how you have Kenneth Olsen (b. 1984), Cellist in the Chicago Symphony Orchestra referencing the Founder of DEC? So, where is this reference? Wanna dig deeper? How about this: Jason Bittner never graduated from CCHS, but went to Linton High School in Schenectady. Are you sure you should be the person maintaining this page? And if you are going to enforce references on me, I better see some references for the rest of the claims on that page, or it should not be there. Or, are you only selectively enforcing references? Please let me know, and I appreciate if could restore my edits. I am actually making an effort to find out who from my high school made something of themselves beyond the norm. To leave off the name of a Super Bowl winner is laughable. I dont know about you, but I would want to know who from my school accomplished such a feat. Thats just scratching the surface as we have some other notables. Im just trying to confirm my details before I post further. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.128.15.226 (talk • contribs)

• In all these articles, "notable" usually means "having a Wikipedia article." Barring that, such a name at the very least needs a reliable source (and classmates are not reliable sources--that's original research. Now, that a Super Bowl winner would not have an article, that of course cries out to the heavens--but the job then is to give the guy an article, see Wikipedia:Your first article. Follow the model of any decent article--like the one for this guy. As for Olsen and Bittner, no need to yell at me, I'm not the Wiki police, and I had nothing to do with this article until recently (check the history). That the one was incorrectly linked, I just corrected that. That the other never graduated is immaterial as long as he attended. A lot of the guidelines can be found on the project's section, Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools. Sure, you are within your right to add them--but I, and every other editor, are even more in our right to remove them if they are not verified by reliable sources: just look right below your edit screen, "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." I hope this helps. Drmies (talk) 03:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes, look before you leap. Talk page etiquette: new comments go at the bottom. Also, please sign your name using four tildes, and provide edit summaries. Now, I've gone ahead and written David Gamble as a stub, so you can add him. You can spend your time more wisely than by seeing problems where there aren't any: fill in the article! Happy editing. Drmies (talk) 03:31, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Idiopathic Intracranial Hypertension

drmies - We sponsor a free online non-profit and non-commercial teaching file of medical images, mostly radiology. We feel that linking to these are a valuable addition to the Wiki project. If you follow the link, you will see a TF case that complements the fine work of your Wiki on IIH. These are not spamlinks. Thanks for your consideration.

• We disagree. Thank you for your message. Drmies (talk) 14:06, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

From the top

My English is not good to explain. But you can compare, some temples were empty. Dongsonese (talk) 02:51, 2 May 2010 (UTC) *Your contribution appeared to be merely promoting some entity. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

• • Sorry, got the wrong guy--confused you with a spammer. Dongsonese, I am not saying that you were wrong to revert those edits, I just wondered what your reason was. Big thing here on Wikipedia is that you explain what you are doing with an edit summary, or that, in this case, you find out what's happening: Dr. Blofeld is a long-time editor who probably knows what he is doing, even if these changes puzzle me a little bit also (Ernst, please include edit summaries!!!). Andewz, thanks for chiming in; if you hadn't I wouldn't have realized my mistake. Dongsonese, does that help? Thanks, and take care. Drmies (talk) 13:09, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
  • If you use edit summaries, everything will be fine. Even "content was somehow removed" is a valid reason. Andewz111 (talk · contribs) (typo intended) 17:33, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Okie, thank you! Dongsonese (talk) 17:52, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Drmies vandalizes wikipedia pages on a regular basis. It is amazing he/she/it hasnt been banned considering how many pages he/she/it has vandalized. Drmies regularly removes factual well sourced information from pages if he/she/it doesnt like the information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.171.233.71 (talk) 20:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

• Ha! It's the dude who keeps adding promotional, unverified material to Langerado! Yes, I still haven't been blocked--it must be a Jewish/American/European/feminist/whatever conspiracy. Well, long time no see. Next time you drop by, don't forget to sign your name. It only requires the typing of four tildes. Thanks for the love, Drmies (talk) 20:52, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!

WOW! A Barnstar for an anon IP? I am truly, truly touched, as well as inspired to try to finish the ENORMOUS task that I have started. Thank you very much, you have really made my day/weekend/month/(maybe even year?)!! 98.82.34.167 (talk) 02:16, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I have great admiration for those who take up such tasks. In my early days on WP my dream was to clean up the articles of all death metal bands. What a fool I was! Fortunately for me I found that bacon and Neil Diamond were more rewarding topics. All the best to you! Drmies (talk) 02:25, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

That sounds like a daunting, truly unfinishible task. My chosen task is more modest, merely requiring nanoparticles of intelligence and terraparticles of time; ultimately, it is (in theory) finite. (And it goes well with television.) 98.82.34.167 (talk) 02:52, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Haha, you're one of them multitaskers--laptop on lap, TV on, and pretending to focus on both while the groin is frying. I know the type well: my wife married one of 'em, I'm embarrassed to admit. Well, if you want something more exciting than friggin' frickin' asteroids: I just found out that there is no article for "She Caught the Katy", that great Taj Mahal song. Have at it! Drmies (talk) 03:31, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but the third sentence of your stub exhausts my knowledge of SCtK, and I'm surprised that it didn't already exist as a redirect to that great Landi homage to carrozzacide . But thanks for the offer. 98.82.34.167 (talk) 04:03, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

<--Oh, I knew almost none of the things I just put in that stub. What would I do without Google? Hey!...you just invented that word, didn't you. You know there are laws against that. I still need you to add 1000 characters or so, to qualify for WP:DYK. BTW, I saw that movie long before I came to America, and of course I had never heard of SNL, nor did I understand that it was a comedy/parody/tribute etc. I thought that America really was like that, with hundreds of cop cars in pursuit. Oh, I ran into a wiki article months ago about the mall where they filmed those spectacular scenes, forgot what it was called, but it's here. Cheers, Drmies (talk) 04:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I invented that word, but it must be a pretty good one since you appear to have got the meaning. Well, real life responsibilities beckon; I'll be off for at least a couple of hours, if not days. Good talking to you. 98.82.34.167 (talk) 04:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

The pleasure was all mine. Have fun with real life. Drmies (talk) 04:29, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Thought you'd like this

OK, this is disgusting. I love all animals, but not all animals are equal.

I'm sure this party has all the right answers for the motherland. Don't you agree? Ucucha 20:06, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks! Holy moly, I'd rather die in an oil spill than live in that kind of city. And what is their problem with primitive man? At least De Tegenpartij was funny. Drmies (talk) 20:10, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
  • And please refrain from making disparaging remarks about my talk page in your edit summaries. First of all, your initial comment did make sense, since I do have all the answers. Second, the quality of the page is greatly dependent on what hand I'm dealt by allies and detractors. Third, such comments should really be placed on the talk page for my talk page. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 20:12, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
    • The front page is the most sensible part, though. The election program is worse. It seems to be a mixture of Christianity, pantheism, Eastern thoughts, animal rights, communism, and nonsense. The piece that doesn't make sense, by the way, was not meant to be your talk page (although it may well apply), but the site of this great party which will give great happiness to everyone, resurrect the dead, and keep the population of the motherland below 10 million. Ucucha 20:17, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
      • Whoa, resurrect the dead and keep the Dutchies below 10 million? That's even more exciting than having one's genital pore located directly above the oral sucker. Drmies (talk) 20:18, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
        • Notocotylus fosteri is getting around, isn't it? The bad thing is that this feature is in fact its main diagnostic character. Ucucha 20:27, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Lancaster Mall

Sorry about that, it was a mistake. Tallen90 (talk) 22:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

• No sweat, just wanted to let you know. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:09, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk Page Stalker

*You know all the above stuff, but this is the only template I know, and I can't edit the redundancies out of it. Drmies (talk) 22:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Per this edit left on User talk:12Minutes to 10pm on May 9th,08's talk page... There are many other Welcome templates here; perhaps you can find one that you like better.

Cheers, Acps110 ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:11, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

• Wow, that's a lot of templates! Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:23, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Certainly! Acps110 ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:33, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Rained in

Apparently it does rain in the Gobi...this morning it was too cloudy for the plane to come in, and now the runway is to muddy for it to land. So in the morning, I think we are going to take the first camel to Dalanzadgad, which happens to be the closest paved runway...--kelapstick (talk) 08:03, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

• K, what an adventure! This was for your flight out of there, right? And then it's back to the motherland, eh? Drmies (talk) 14:08, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes, I am out, well in UB now. We drove 5 hours across the desert in what looked like a tundra buggy. I leave for Seoul at about midnight local time.--kelapstick (talk) 06:50, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Removal of everything about DZRH

Please forgive me! And revert about DZRH! - Gabby 00:05, 5 May 2010 (PST)

• No forgiveness necessary--but I reverted an edit: the people you removed were in fact notable--they had Wikipedia articles. In general, such lists are OK if the people listed have Wikipedia articles, and possibly OK if the entries have references to reliable sources. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:10, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Re:Talk:Memory work

Thx for the advice.--Thanks, Ainlina(box)? 17:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

• Sure thing. Keep up the good work. Drmies (talk) 17:33, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

article about Joe McCarthy

would be glad to discuss but clearly the proven communist/Soviet subversion dating to the 1920s caused the Cold War, not the other way around. But that really had nothing to do with McCarthy; he just was known for his crusade against State. He definitely was not the face of the Cold War as the article said as of noon 5/4/2010. Nixon was the face of the Cold War from his HUAC days to debating Kruschev (sic) in the 1950s to the recognition of China and the detente with Breshvev in the 70s. Mixing up McCarthy with the Cold War is misleading —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dennisbyron (talk • contribs) 20:11, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

• Eh, as far as I know the Cold War started after the Second World War (look it up), and it was caused by global politics, not by local political developments and paranoia blown out of proportion in hindsight. In America, he was one of the faces of the Cold War, epitomizing the Second Red Scare. I'm not sure what you mean with "crusade against State." Drmies (talk) 22:48, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Climbing the greasy pole

Hi Drmies. A while ago you were kind enough to ask me, if I had contemplated putting my name in the hat for admin. Well, now I think I'm ready to go for it, but in relation to that I do have one question to ask you: why aren't you an admin? You have created tons of articles and have lots of DYKs to your credit, plus of course your anti-vandalism work. I'm surprised your weren't conscripted ;) Favonian (talk) 21:07, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

• Well, thanks! I thought I'd get up to 30,000 edits first, and then I thought maybe 40,000 will do nicely. But I'm also wondering if I have the temperament for it (and I'd hate to find out at RfA that I didn't), and the last few months I've done nothing but occasional anti-vandal stuff and a couple of short articles--I don't really have the time I'd like to be able to devote to the project. But I'm keeping it in mind and I'm very honored that you would suggest it.

  Do you have anyone to nominate you yet? I'll be glad to have a more thorough look at your work in the next few days, if you like. One thing that speaks for you immediately: I really like your name, I don't know why. It's got a nice Renaissance ring to it. Drop me a line and let me know what you're up to; I'm in your camp. Drmies (talk) 22:46, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Thank you! My own record on the article creation front is a bit thin, and I expect that to be brought up, but we'll see. There will be no such opposition to your candidacy when that time comes. Regarding my user name, it's actually a bit tongue-in-cheek. The pampered, Mediterranean bloke who thought of associating "mild, gentle" with the west wind obviously never spent any time on the North Sea coast of Denmark ;) Favonian (talk) 10:52, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Pieter Quast

Honestly - not much, I fear, as I cannot speak Dutch. Does it say he was born in 1620? --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:22, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

There's also this, which supports the other dates I found. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:24, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I'm not trying to mess with your dates, don't get me wrong. The link I sent you does have 1620 as a birth year, but it claims to derive that from a source with two names--one of which was the name cited in your source also (can't remember what those were and I'm too lazy to look it up). I'll have another look at that entry to see if there's anything useful, but what I was really trying to do was find some Dutch sources for you--there weren't a lot of them around, and I found, for instance, nothing yet in the Dutch papers. All the best, Drmies (talk) 15:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

Vandalism is a big word my friend. Clearly you don't see the difference between vandalism and constructive editing. I lieft justified reasoning for each edit I made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.173.146.220 (talk) 02:49, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

• Alright, friend, new comments go at the bottom and sign your name with four tildes.

  Then, look at this page, which has your contributions. Then scroll down to the edits from February, where I undid some of your destructive edits. See where it says "references removed," "categories removed"? Without explanation? And how does this edit have anything constructive in it?

  I've been here long enough and seen enough vandals to know the difference. So Dan Ilic ran off with your girlfriend, or hit your dog? Get over it. Drmies (talk) 03:20, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

confused

Is this for me? I take it no, but I left a message on that IP's talk page. --Tommy2010 03:29, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

• It's so that you don't have to count and put the lie to their assertion. At least they didn't call you "friend." The IP is clearly full of it, and I saw your correct response on their talk page. Cheers, Drmies (talk) 03:31, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, just wanted to clarify Tommy2010 03:40, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for reminding me with regards to user page and not the talk page. pardon the mixup. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Informationnest (talk • contribs) 03:45, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

• Sure thing--I did the same thing for your user page. Feel free to remove the template. At some point, I hope the two of you can get along. I looked at the history of the article, and it seems to me that the current version has decent sources. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:49, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Informationnest (talk) 04:19, 6 May 2010 (UTC) do you mind helping me out on the jg wentworth page, it is certain that the user that keeps changing the page is an employee for jg wentworth, i was hoping you could help restore a accurate version (i believe my last version is well sourced and 100% accurate). id really appreciate your help in this matter, i used to represent a client of jg wentworth and it struck a cord when their wiki page is shear propaganda that forgets to mention anything inconvenient to them. If there is anything thats not 100% okay in my version, id appreciate your help in resolving it.

• Well, you two are having a content dispute. The other user cannot be directly accused of vandalism--while you can guess at their motivation, their edits are not completely destructive. In addition, they only (consistently) remove one source (if I saw that correctly), and they could argue that your text is a bit on the long side and by being long is tendentious (see the undue weight guidelines). Both of you, it is obvious, have a certain interest (and possibly a conflict of interest) here, though that doesn't mean that no one is at least partially right. I think (but I could be wrong) that the first thing you could try is post a message on Wikipedia:Content noticeboard, where an uninvolved editor or editors can weigh in. Thanks for your message, and good luck. Drmies (talk) 14:58, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • I just had a look at Talk:J.G. Wentworth, and User:E. Ripley is doing a great job mediating and helping cooler heads prevail. They are right in saying that slinging insults back and forth isn't just counterproductive, it's also against the rules here. Work with them, and maybe posting at the Content noticeboard won't be necessary. Drmies (talk) 15:02, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Dark Iris deletion

Hello Drmies, I hope this is the right place to contact you. I would like to ask you not to delete the articles I just submitted because even though we are not signed to a major record label, I run my own label and Dark Iris is on the roster. The label is called Triple A Records. We are a notible act because even though we are not yet among the mainstream, we are finishing our debut album now which will have two singles that will be played on the radio across the US, UK and Canada and we are also sending in news articles about the band to notable music magazines such as Alternative Press, Kerrang and Metal Hammer. We have not send in our press releases yet, but will do so the instant we finish our debut album. Not only that, we already do have a bit of press coverage across the internet, most of it is just hard for to me to find to post right away. I know it's there because I've seen it. As far as physical album releases, we are working on a deal with the Hot Topic chain to have our CDs sold across the country, but is still pending as of now. So in some cases, I believe we are a notable band, and we're not just another up-and-coming local act. We are also going to apply for SXSW 2011, Warped Tour 2011, submit our music to Music Choice and our music videos to Fuse Channel and other like things. I would hold off on deleting our article right away, but if you do, please email a copy of all the articles you delete to darkiris@Live.com formatting and all. The articles I wish to keep are Dark Iris, Victims of Circumstance (Album), The Guardian (Album) and Larry Hansen. So if you do decide to delete all of those articles, please send them back to my email. I don't want my hours of work to go to waste. If you decide to delete these articles, I will update them and repost them when our albums have been released, the press kits have been released and when we are more 'out in the open' so to speak. But I would still prefer you not to delete the articles as we are an independent band. Thank you. - Larry52333 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Larry52333 (talk • contribs) 03:56, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

• Larry, see the AfD discussions: the band clearly does not meet the notability guidelines for Wikipedia. See WP:MUSIC for specifics. Also note that the editor named Uther would have speedily deleted the articles for lack of notability. They, by the way, are an administrator and could let you "keep" the articles in user space (it's called userfication, or something ugly like that), so maybe you should drop them a line. As far as notability goes--you need a record deal with a notable company and two records, or a hit, or, and this is really the way to go, coverage in the press. Good luck, and I'm sorry I have to nominate you--but all the best. Drmies (talk) 04:00, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'm getting your talk page and Uther's page mixed up. Sorry. This is what I said on his talk if you had not already read it:

Quote: Alaska has a fairly small music scene, and I've been a part of it for about five years, and as so, I've been titled as a veteran of the music scene by fellow musicians, venues and promotors, so it's kinda hard to contest that claim regardless of my age. As for my Dark Iris article, we are a notable act because we have been covered in newspapers and local magazines and partially on the radio, but even more so this summer after our debut album official releases. And it clearly states in Wikipedia's Notability (Music) page that newspaper, magazine and radio coverage are good enough reasons to consider a band notable, as stated below:

"This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries"

If the statement above is true, then there is no reason why we can be considered otherwise a notable band. I reference all of our news articles, reviews, magazine articles, etc. as links on the reference section of the article. I'm not sure how many I have posted as of now, but I can think of a few more sources to post to the references section which I will do right now and will continue to do every time I find new press releases and other related objects. If this does not explain well enough why I think Dark Iris is a notable band, please tell me how this does not apply. Thank you. --Larry52333 (talk) 05:14, 7 May 2010 (UTC) :Unquote

Now if none of this is correct and the band is not notable regardless of the forementioned press releases and news releases then at least userfy my work as I requested before and I will ask Uther the same request if all else fails. Thank you. --Larry52333 (talk) 05:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

• Larry, the above quote from WP:N is correct, of course--but the sources in which these articles etc. must appear have to be reliable. Second, it must provide substantial, significant, in-depth discussion of the subject. Obviously a Craigslist ad is not coverage according to these guidelines. The announcement of a concert in LocalSpur is not discussion, it's only a mention. The link to Make a Scene delivers nothing about the band, and I searched their archive. The "article" on Anchorage Daily News is obviously something that you submitted yourself--the writer for the short piece is "Darkirisak" and even if that is not you, it's a user who submitted something, not an in-depth piece written by a journalist. Finally, "Anna Ricky" does not write for a newspaper, and at any rate this piece is published on a blog and really amounts to no more than the comment that the band is "sick" (in a good way, I imagine) and an injunction to check out their MySpace.

  I'm sorry, but you're clutching at straws here: there isn't a single article listed that would qualify as significant in-depth discussion published in an independent reliable source. Drmies (talk) 14:31, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Man, it feels like a court room up in here! haha Well, I see your point. It's valid. I put up the Craigslist ad as a reference to the keyboard player search thing. As for the ADN article, I did submit that myself, but I'm pretty sure a lot of what you read in press is submitted by the band themselves because how else are you going to get accurate information? The Make-a-Scene article is in existence, I suppose it isn't posted on their site. Well, when I linked that, I kinda just did that in a hurry so you wouldn't delete my article right away. Just wanted to put something on the table but apparently the article isn't present on their site. That's my bad. Anna Ricky is not a newspaper writer, but she is a blogger and she wrote a piece about us and like most blogs, her's probably has an RSS feed on it somewhere. I think that one should count as an eligible work. The Localspur thing I just came across when searching for some of the press releases I found on us. I couldn't find much, and that was the first time I seen that one so I just decided to post it in good faith. We are also on tons of lyric websites among other websites if that makes much of a difference in the matter. If you google us, use keywords like "Dark Iris" or "Dark Iris band" or "Dark Iris Alaska" or, here's the ones that come up with most results usually "Dark Iris Reborn" or "Dark Iris Victims of Circumstance" and you may come across more results and perhaps find something that you can consider eligible. If that doesn't work then I don't know what will right now. I think for what we've done in less than a year as a band, we've got a lot of promotion and a lot of press and we've been working hard since formation and we will continue to do so. If this article gets deleted now and you can userfy it for me, then I will just post it updated later after we get our stuff on the air across the country (which is guaranteed at this point) and when we get more press, quite possibly in Alternative Press or Kerrang or another notable magazine or news source. So hope we can keep our article, if all else fails, we will just repost after more has happened, but honestly I think we have done enough to be considered notable and having an article on Wikipedia will only increase our notability. So whatever happens happens I guess. Thanks. --Larry52333 (talk) 01:12, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

J.G. Wentworth

Thanks much for the encouraging note. — e. ripley\^talk 12:08, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

• No, thank you for taking up the yoke of peace brokering! Drmies (talk) 17:29, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Hirondelles

Dear Drmies, all students in Germany and Vietnam (in Vietnam they will slepp now and we have last lectures in Germany and I have to prepare my flight to Saigon) in turmoil. Prof.em. Volker Martin, Mr. Hajo Sauer can give you evidence about the student public and reliable project Hirondelles. Next week from Saigon (or we will ask one of student colleagues tomorrow, or Mr. Hajo Sauer???) can paste the workshop curiculum of the symposium. We designed 8 workshops for Wednesday, 1st December 2010. Prof. Steffen Lehmann is the Chairman, Prof. Volker Martin is the Vice Chairman, the ministry of construction is the official sponsor, as well as the ministry of natural resources and environment. NPOs like ENDA and Green Building Council Vietnam, as hopefully LEED from US will attend the symposium. We started the first round table with highest scientiest and goverment people and NPOs. IFHP-International Federation of Housing and Planning is with us. It will be the biggest and most science based symposium about green building design and clean development in Vietnam - a symposium made from students, examiness together with our professors. Our English skills are so la la, but we are all better engineers. This Wiki site is for us a unique chance to get public data for all students, examinees. If you delete the file, it will be for no student understandable. Hirondelles is the first huge project in min 3 countries. Actually the Australian in the start-up position..... we are faster.

Volker Martin and Hajo Sauer expect always an open name in the net, it´s our code of ethic. We all use our real names and show where we study. Michael Gade - examinee urban planning Brandenburg Technische Universität Cottbus / Germany. From Monday on in Saigon.Michael Gade (talk) 17:18, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

• Michael, I am not entirely sure what you're telling me. I'm not about to email a professor to ask for verification of the content of the article, or tell you my name and affiliation--was that what you're asking? The subject of the article itself, if it is such a huge project, should generate interest (as Sheeana said at the AfD) in what here are considered reliable sources--it is the essence of the enterprise of Wikipedia. And Wikipedia's audience is not a group of students or examinees: it is the general audience. Anyway, the core of Wikipedia is verifiability, and without significant discussion of the topic in reliable sources the article is likely to be deleted. If you find those sources, please add them, and that will change the discussion. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 17:29, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Sri Chinmoy

Three socks & master all blocked. Cheers —DoRD (talk) 18:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks! Drmies (talk) 18:49, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Play Me

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

SENsational POV

Hey Doc, could you help cleanse the contribution history of Sinsen (talk · contribs) / Sen45 (talk · contribs) / Senindia (talk · contribs) of POV? I tried before, but couldn't finish it up, and the socks haven't made matters easy either. The chap makes up things in favor of Erode and populates many articles with such crap, sometimes he uses real refs to say things that they don't say. e.g. In Erode he says that it's the fastest growing urban region in south India, while the ref states in Tamil Nadu; the source itself is a bit suspect as they are saying why they're investing in that location and more importantly it doesn't say how it's the fastest growing (a high % for a small area shouldn't probably qualify!) and so on. I'm quite tied up these days, and I figured you've spent some time with this chap, you might be interested in a doing a little more, no? cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 16:15, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

• I'll be glad to help out, Spiff--I did notice that he dropped stuff all over the place (see my recent contribution on bullshit). But first I gotta fix the lawnmower... :( Drmies (talk) 17:24, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks Doc, you'll get good Karma and in appreciation of your efforts, your Gap t-shirts (made in neighboring Tirupur) will never wear out. —SpacemanSpiff 17:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Thanks doc, and I'm glad that your neighbor was able to lend you his mower. I hope the grass is green and well trimmed. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 13:16, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
      • A couple of the ones I haven't dealt with yet are localities of some sort. Your Sen-writer, however, is so unclear that it's hard to figure out if these have independent notability: they might be villages, they might be neighborhoods. Of course they're all unverified. I redirected one of them but will leave the rest be, lest some inclusionist come and club me for my pelt. Speaking of pelt, no GAP for me--I'm wearing a HEMA shirt today. And the lawn looks great, thanks! Drmies (talk) 14:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
        • Now you know why I don't do any article writing anymore! These chaps use up my limited on-wiki time these days. This chap is one of the more prolific POV pushers, there's another sock drawer if you're so inclined - Wikindia24x7 (talk · contribs) / Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Wikindia24x7 (not all the puppets have made it into the redlinked cat yet). This ones worse, I'm keeping the main account open only because it's easier for me to monitor, otherwise the throw away accounts become too difficult to track! Are you teaching this summer or do you have it all to yourself? cheers —SpacemanSpiff 17:54, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou

Thankyou for the welcome and User talk:Jacobhughessr does not seem to understand what vandalism means. I do not know how to report someone but he is soon welcome to it. Wiooiw (talk) 02:50, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

It seems I was a liitle late asking for that. Thankyou. Wiooiw (talk) 02:51, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

• Hey, thanks for your note. That account is evidently vandalism-only and I've just reported them; no doubt it'll be shut down soon. I use Twinkle to report them, at WP:AIV. Thanks again, and happy editing! Drmies (talk) 02:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Does User:Farmvillesucks9723 violate the username policy? Wiooiw (talk) 04:08, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Well he is a vandal [1]. Wiooiw (talk) 04:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's directly in violation, though it's kind of a dumb name, and you often find that such names belong to vandalism-only editors. And who would want to vandalize Mike Tyson? What if he finds out where you live? Foolish. Drmies (talk) 04:27, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Pulaka

No worries. Interesting subject. Earlier I started Zaans Museum and Eugène Brands. If you could weave your Dutch magic we could go for a dual DYK together? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 17:28, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

• Sure. Zaandam is where I grew up. Drmies (talk) 17:36, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Is it? Cool. Thanks for the expansion. I'll nominate it shortly.. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 11:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC) I've started Hotel Pulitzer and found some images. I also made a map of Amsterdam. Can you expand/ref and we can go for a joint DYK again. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 13:25, 14 May 2010 (UTC) I guess you're busy or just aint a fan of hotels. Don't worry I've expanded it and gone for a solo DYK. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 11:35, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Looking for help, part XVIII

Hey, Professor. I found a redlink in a category and I've no idea how to fix it. Do you know anyone that's category-skilled? I've looked over the project page and no one looks familiar (plus, it's not heavily edited). If you have any ideas, let me know. Three more months 'till kickoff :) Roll Tide Tiderolls 04:35, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

• Hey Tide. Where's the problem? Chances are I know less than you do, but User:LadyofShalott knows a ton of things--and we keep it within state! Yes, three months only--by which time we'll all be covered in a thick layer of oil. BTW, I wanted to chime in on your talk page. Run! Drmies (talk) 13:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: Caution: Adding unreferenced controversial information about living persons on Dark Lord.

I think you will find that the information I added is directly quoted from the Wikipedia entry on Peter Mandelson, and is referenced in the body of that article. If there is any question of the accuracy of the information, I would suggest you raise the issue with the originator of the content in the aforementioned article. I refute the controversy you attach to the information - reading the article on Peter Mandelson will clarify the issue for you and you may feel that the information is worth reinstating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.71.101 (talk) 14:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

• I stand corrected. I did look at that article and for reasons unknown did not find the information, which was there at the time, apparently. I have removed the warning and replaced it with a welcome message and a yummy cookie. Please accept my apology. Drmies (talk) 15:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

My edit to the motorhead album.

I didn't vandalize the article. I only changed "united states" to "north america." You're probably just offended by my statement in the edit summary, calling out americans who think they are the entire world. 24.138.188.72 (talk) 19:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

• This is correct, as I pointed out in the warning on your talk page. Your edit summary said "fucking americunts," which is kind of a dumb thing to say. If you want to go around insulting people that way, get a Facebook account. Drmies (talk) 20:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

So you agree, that I wasn't actually vandalizing, then? 24.138.188.72 (talk) 20:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

• Can't you read? Your edit summary was an act of vandalism. Drmies (talk) 20:10, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

A simple statement that cannot be seen by anyone who doesn't click "edit history," (which will still be seen by those who do), and does not show up anywhere on the actual article makes an otherwise contributory edit vandalism? lol. 24.138.188.72 (talk) 20:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

• That's right! Drmies (talk) 20:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Regardless of how petty my statement was, or how butthurt you got over it, the edit was from March, and was one of the last things I did on here. Why am I being warned about it now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.138.188.72 (talk) 20:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

• You're not being warned about it now. You were warned about it last week, when I saw it, and I pointed it out on your talk page for future reference: you have a history of making unconstructive edits. I hope you will continue to contribute, but that you will do so positively. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 20:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Stuff

Took care of the song article to the best of my ability. Unfortunately, I can't act as strongly as I would like ... pesky concepts like WP:INVOLVED get in the way.

I'm getting increasingly irritated by the new skin, which gives me a button row reading "Take me back New features Kww Mijn overleg Mijn voorkeuren Mijn volglijst Mijn bijdragen Afmelden" I know how to fix it, but want to check with a native speaker. I assume "take me back" should simply be "terug", but I'm not certain whether "Nieuwe capaciteiten", "Nieuwe dingen" or a third unknown choice is best for "new features".—Kww(talk) 04:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

• I didn't notice a new skin until I started hitting the wrong buttons tonight (granted, I had some (free) wine). I think "nieuwe dingen" is always best--it has a nice Osdorp Posse flavor to it. Drmies (talk) 04:10, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Verkade

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:03, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Dekkers

I just received the booklet you send me—thanks! Now I'll have something good to read on the plane back to the motherland; I appreciate it. Did you know, by the way, that there is at least one other place in the Dutch literature where rice rats are mentioned? (Now go find it.) Ucucha 00:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Rijstratten, or something like that? Must be some Japanese internment memory? Glad you got the book. I enjoyed it immensely. BTW, Gerrit Komrij wrote a poem or two featuring his cat, and he compared himself to a dog ("Er is een fabeldier dat Komrij heet..."). Hey, have a good time back home. I'll be there in a week and a half, so if you like we can have a beer in the WW, or, better yet, in Amsterdam. Drmies (talk) 01:12, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
  • You're right about the name, but not the genre it's in. There are no real rice rats in Southeast Asia, after all, though there is a "rice-field rat", Rattus argentiventer.
  • Vraag: Waar werd oprechter trouw

    Dan tussen man en vrouw

    Ter wereld ooit gevonden?

  • Antwoord: Bij de honden.
  • (Now I wonder who wrote that. It's tempting to say De Schoolmeester [why is that link red?], but the source appears to be anonymous.) Compared to that, Komrij is a better poet, though, and I liked his "fabeldier" poem.
  • Good idea! (No beer for me, though.) Ucucha 13:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Response about YouTube.

Okay, I was wondering about that...because I've noticed that people never use youtube as a resource for information on here and I just never gave any thought, I guess. See, I'm new to this editting thing, but I'm learning a lot of things fast.
So thank you kindly for the tip, Gariseiro (talk) 02:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Sure thing. See, at the base of it, the problem is that YouTube gives you primary information (see WP:PRIMARY), and a reliable encyclopedia is built on what reliable sources have published about a topic--not on what you or I can see directly about a topic, whether what we see is true or not. Sometimes that's counterintuitive, but if you think of the validity of information in the long run, then it makes sense. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 04:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Courtesy note

You are receiving this note because of your participation in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iceland–Mexico relations, which is now being revisited at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iceland–Mexico relations (2nd nomination). –xeno^talk 17:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks xeno. I am sure no one will mind if I stay out of this. Drmies (talk) 19:14, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Canvassing/Meat puppetry

He asked me on a different website how to vote to keep it so I posted it on his talk page telling him how.--Lunagron (Talk)  20:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

• "A new user who engages in the same behavior as another user in the same context, and who appears to be editing Wikipedia solely for that purpose, may be subject to the remedies applied to the user whose behavior they are joining." From WP:MEAT. 20:59, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

• He engaged in completley different context then me. He didn't even understand the rules which pissed me off because it made him seem like a child trying to save his little fun page. I didn't even recruit him, he just signed up and wanted to know how to vote. I told him that voting didn't really do anything but he wanted to know so I told him.--Lunagron (Talk)  21:06, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Pocky

Hi! You removed Starship Girl Yamamoto Yohko from the popular culture section. I removed a lot of trivia. 1:There is no linked article in the entry and 2:There is no reference to a word "Pocky" in the linked article. But as for the anime, Pocky is mentioned twice in the linked article. I don't like this kind of trivia but because of the reason above, I didn't remove it. I'd like to know your criterion. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 06:26, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, but in both cases we're talking about unverified, in-universe mentions. Such mentions aren't good to begin with, and to then extend that unverified reference to another article in a trivial mention ("someone eats this cookie" when that someone is not Bono or the pope) is pushing it too much (besides using Wikipedia as a source for Wikipedia). All those animes already suffer from extremely excessive in-universe detail. I left the other one because it had the word in the title, and that subject has its own Wikipedia article. Does that make sense? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 13:40, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
  • That makes sense perfectly. Probably I respected editors who added such trivia too much. I will remove trivia mercilessly from now on. As I wrote above, I don't like trivia at all. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 14:42, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Haha, thanks. Be careful with chopping, though, since some people love their trivia. I love cutting trivia, but I'd like to be able to do so with a somewhat valid reason. Happy editing, and thanks for asking in the first place! Drmies (talk) 14:43, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Eastern Docklands

Hi Dr. Would you like to collaborate with this. It needs translation from nl wiki. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 12:35, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

• Click on history for some explanation of changes. You know this is a ton of work, working on tons of redlinks! But I'll be glad to pitch in a bit. I'm going to leave the others since I can't work on so many things at the same time, sorry. Drmies (talk) 15:00, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

I've also started Theo Bitter, Dirk Bus, Aart van den IJssel and Pulchri Studio. If any take your fancy let me know. Please respond .thanks. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 14:49, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, oh don't worry about the red links,pretty scary. Just take it completely at your own pace and ignore them. I'm not asking for you to translate all of the Amsterdam districts! I will probably stub them all in due course but there is certainly no rush.. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 17:15, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Chandana Prasanna

Dear friend: Please Propose to dont delete page of mine "Chandana Prasanna" best Chandana —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.135.135.24 (talk) 14:47, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

• I got nothing to do with this, but I did remove the AfD template since a. that needs to be done by a registered user and b. it was incomplete. Drmies (talk) 15:02, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Mien Ruys

Happy to be of help. Honestly, I don't see much in any of the three that I'd change, apart from some tenses in the Eastern Docklands article (I'd use more past tense where you've used present tense). Other than that, they look good.

By the way, if you're in a translating mood, I created Leo Glans some while back. Seems interesting; I'd do more, but I can't speak Dutch, I'm afraid. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:53, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Odd bug picture

Odd bug picture

I have a question and I was wondering if the all knowing Drmies could answer it. I was reading through China Airlines Flight 006 and I noticed something odd about the picture. Looking at the image you see the airplane pulling to the left of the screen. Yet when you click on the image to bring up the wiki page (Chinaair006.png) you see a completely different image of the plane in a nose dive.

It looks like there is a glitch in the wiki page or maybe the thumbnail. Whenever you link to Chinaair006.png, the thumbnail looks like the old version but when you click the image it brings you to the new version.

I've never seen anything like this before and I was wondering if you have. --Triesault (talk) 21:37, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

• Wow. I got no answer for you there! Never seen this before. Let's hope that some of the geeky talk page stalkers have an answer for this? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 23:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Where do you think I should go with this? The talk page on that picture wouldn't get any attention. --Triesault (talk) 05:14, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Sorry, I don't know. User:LadyofShalott knows lots of things, and she checks in here occasionally, as does User:Bongomatic. You could try Wikipedia:Questions--that page has a couple of suggestions for where you might pop your questions (you're right about the talk page, of course). Sorry! Drmies (talk) 05:26, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
      • I got it to display the other (nose-diving) image, but oddly the file history is also wrong: the "current version" shown in the history is not actually the current version. Perhaps WP:VPT can help. Ucucha 18:25, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
        • Further on: when you go the actual image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Chinaair006.png/230px-Chinaair006.png), which one is displayed varies depending on the thumbnail size (the number before "px"). When you set 260px, you get the one that is flying to the left, but when you set 259 or 261 you get the nose-diver. It might be some oddity in the image itself. Ucucha 18:29, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
          • Ucucha, you're in the motherland, and still you are bored enough that you are checking in? Thanks for your help, but now get lost and go drink some beer! See you next week in the WW?? Drmies (talk) 19:07, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
            • Oh, I never drink beer, not even when I may, and I'm still not sure what the WW is. I don't think I'll need to see the WW, that I am eligible for the WW, or that I would like to be at the WW. Ucucha 19:13, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
              • Well, I'm talking about an entirely different WW--regular attendance is mandatory for students in Leiden, from what I understand. You're supposed to go to Plato first, of course, and then spend what's left in the WW. Drmies (talk) 19:19, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
                • Really! I've never heard of either, and I do know a fair number of students in Leiden, some of whom are of the kind that frequent such establishments. Google Maps told me that Van Stockum is quite close to De WW, so no wonder that I missed it. Ucucha 19:30, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm so glad you asked. You can see that I'm an expert on the topic.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bongomatic (talk • contribs)

Re:Hackforums

Hello, Drmies. You have new messages at MC10's talk page.
Message added 21:53, 17 May 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Welcome Templates

Just a quick note, can you make sure you subst welcome templates when you add them to a users talk page? Thanks =] ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 18:15, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

• Sure. Didn't know that was necessary. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:16, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Request

Hello Drmies, thank you for your welcome. I looked up how to use the "Sidebar" template yesterday and made a new version of the "Sex and the law" template with it on the "Sex and the law" discussion page. If you think it's okay, perhaps you can update the original. 212.84.121.75 (talk) 17:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

• No! Haha. Do it yourself! It looks great. First, though, I'd sign up for an account--template changes by IPs are sometimes treated with suspicion, and then just copy and paste the code (you're obviously much cleverer with this sort of stuff than I am). This is also an opportunity to get a really cool user name that you'll be famous under for years to come. Thanks for your helpful edits (I saw the Shelly edits--I love Trust) and happy editing! Drmies (talk) 17:55, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad you like the template - the Sidebar instructions were pretty easy to follow. But the "Sex and the law" template is locked, so I thought you might be able to update it for me. Thanks. 212.84.121.75 (talk) 00:45, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

• I didn't see that until I edited it. I've put your changes in (with some modifications, in that category section--don't ask me exactly what it was). Sign up and get an account and you can do this yourself! Drmies (talk) 02:26, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Cork Student News

Thanks for the message. I am not convinced that being indexed by Google News implies any notability, but reasonable minds can differ. The lack of sources (both in the article and online) is more troubling. If the claims made in the article are true, there have to be some somewhere. – ukexpat (talk) 18:59, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

• Right you are. Still, I found it odd that GNews would index it--it's either a sign of marginal notability on the paper's part or, more likely, an indication of how lax Google's standards are. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 19:01, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

At least my trip wasn't wasted

Not my flight, but I took one just like it.

I was able to get a picture of the Dalanzadgad Airport for the article, and update the runway surface.--kelapstick (talk) 23:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Ha! Original research if I ever saw it! ^Bongo_matic 03:26, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm no--the photograph is "primary" but wouldn't mean anything without an article based on solid secondary and tertiary sources, which, in this case, is, ahem, well, this. *Sigh* off to AfD we go again... Drmies (talk) 03:36, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm . . . right--not OR, just unsupported by RS. Asphalt ≠ concrete! Tsk, tsk. ^Bongo_matic 03:58, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey, check out Saint Boniface for some unsupported crap. Only reference it had was some stupid weblink to a patron saint's index. Drmies (talk) 04:06, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

hmmmm it may be concrete. I have a couple of some planes on the runway, I have to check. I just wanted it changed from grass. I didn't drive 5 hours through goat and camel remains for a grass runway! kelapstick (talk) 18:36, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Aside from the link, I did look at my picture (which I am going to upload), and it was a concrete runway. It was a long day,and all I really remember is the camel hooves on the side of the road outside Dalanzadgad, and the Airport Manager having a beer at 10:30 in the morning. I head back next Saturday, through Beijing next time, want me to pick anything up for you?--kelapstick (talk) 23:06, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

As long as it's the Airport Manager, and not the pilot, you might be OK. ^Bongo_matic 01:38, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

<--Haha, I am not sure I'd want what you can pick up easily there. But, goat and camel remains? Do pave the road with carcasses? You should be in a death metal band. How's mrs. K and the little one(s)? Drmies (talk) 01:47, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

The road into DZ goes through the "landfill" (liberal use of the word), not a word of a lie, I saw camel hooves on the side of the road, and what the other guys were calling "deadheads" (you can use your imagination as to what those were). I have had a request for a picture of the Russian Embassy in UB, I was actually looking for it, on my way to the State Department Store (which needs an article to go with my picture), but didn't see it. I will have to look harder next time.

Mrs. K is well, as is the boy, number 2 will arrive in August, and will be a girl, or so I am told. --kelapstick (talk) 02:23, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Aww that's so nice to hear. Girls are great, as I'm sure Mrs. K. will agree. Say, do you have a copy of Everyone Poops already? (A one-hump camel makes a one-hump poop, A two-hump camel makes a two-hump poop--only kidding!) Drmies (talk) 03:50, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Justine Ezarik

You seem to be a fairly productive editor, but I find it unfathomable that you think you improved the article by removing the type of encyclopedic content that you did. BTW, there is no limit to free use images in an article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:24, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks! But, unfathomable? I've never seen such a bloated article so well documented. We seem to have very different opinions on what constitutes encyclopedic content. And this wholesale reversal of yours, with a summary dismissal, that's not improving anything. User:Mfield put it better than I can in Talk:Justine_Ezarik#Pictures. I'm waiting for you to add an explanation of her bathroom habits and her opinion on the oil spill in the Gulf; in the meantime, I guess I should be glad that the world will know that when she was interviewed in 2007, the interviewer commented afterward: "When Sites asked her to turn off her lifecasting equipment later in the interview, he noted that 'at once the conversation seemed more relaxed and natural,' and she discussed the difficulty of having people watching and publicly judging her all day." And her father remained supportive: fascinating! Drmies (talk) 14:17, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Scott D. Sampson

Happy to be of help. I don't know that much about paleontology myself; I just thought I'd give it a couple of cosmetic touches. Better for others who know the discipline to expand it. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:36, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

• Yes. Them science people, who do impact factors and citation indices and what not. Thanks for the note! Drmies (talk) 18:37, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: WGRZ

The reasons I reverted was, 1) there are lists like this on every television station page, 2) all these names can be verified by looking at the station's website under their Bios or Staff page and 3) removing any large amount of information from the page would require a consensus with other users at WP:TVS, the main Wikiproject for Television Stations. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 19:41, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for your response. Well, earlier I looked for guidelines there and didn't find any. Besides, I fundamentally disagree that 1. the fact that some stations (certainly not all!) have those lists means that it's OK and 2. that such hypothetical verification is easy and sufficient--and surely you agree that with former "personalities" this is far from easy. I don't rightly see how a consensus for such edits is required: I believe that WP:NOTDIR and WP:BLP give me and any other editor the right to remove unverified information on living persons. Besides, why, in most cases, only the TV personalities? Why not the camera crew? (and actually I have seen those on some articles) Why not the janitor? That is the problem with such directory information, which is what that is--limiting to "notable" people eliminates both BLP and directory problems. Drmies (talk) 19:53, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Per WP:TVS rules, we don't include videographers or live truck operators. We don't include news directors unless they have an on-air spot (in some small town stations, the ND is also an anchor). Now the former personalities (which is being renamed "on-air staff" for better, clearer language) can go and I would think twice about it, but the current staff can be verified by links to their bio pages, which on some pages does happen. To remove any section like this, you would need to remove it from all pages and that would require consensus, so one page would require all pages to be removed. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 20:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Wait--cleaning up one article mandates the cleaning up of all articles? That's not very logical. And the only thing that TVS says is "information on its personalities, past and present"--very vaguely phrased, no doubt, but I don't see how it says "including unverified BLP information." Again, that I could conceivably look it up, that's not satisfactory. It's rather the other way around: you should remove all that information from all articles and then reinsert it but only when linked to a reliable source--let's say an independent one, while we're at it, not just a company website. Drmies (talk) 20:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
      • All bios are written by the reporter/anchor/meteorologist. We aren't here to go through and source every single staff member with 4th party sources when a 3rd part source (the station's own site) will do just nicely. Also, yes, if you remove information from one page, why not others? What makes WGRZ-TV so special for clean up that some station in NYC doesn't? You and I both know that would be asked. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 20:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
        • So they are primary sources--autobiographies. Precisely the kind of thing we should struggle to avoid. There's no such thing as 4th party sources, and who would ask me that question? I haven't been asked why I haven't created the article on Annemarie van Haeringen even though I expanded Annie M.G. Schmidt. No, I remove this unverified information whenever one of these comes my way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drmies (talk • contribs)
          • First off, I was being sarcastic with "4th pary sources". Second, when did we decide that autobiography sources are bad? They are used all over, on pages not just TV stations. I don't think you have the weight to throw around to say "autobiography sources are bad". - NeutralHomer • Talk • 03:29, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

<--Sorry, didn't see the sarcasm there. "Weight"? How about the word "third-party" in WP:RS? Drmies (talk) 04:25, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

• BTW, nice! Pot? Kettle? Drmies (talk) 04:30, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

I am done playing little games and going through semantics with you. You need consensus to remove these, you have not gotten that, you haven't even tried. You are edit warring, and you are pushing 3RR. Your reasons are vague, as vague as BLP rules are. So, I am reverting and I recommend you take this to WP:TVS or WP:RFC for comment and stop edit warring. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:43, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

• And you got consensus? There's nothing in any policy anywhere on Wikipedia that allows you to reinsert unverified BLP information. Semantics--what a bunch of bullshit. There's nothing semantic about "third-party" unless you're being sarcastic or, as I think, you are seriously confusing the first and third person: that seems to be the case, since you think that your own opinion forms some sort of royal consensus. Drmies (talk) 04:45, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Link to the station's website's bios of the reporters/anchors/ meteorologists. Those are sources, and third party AND reliable. Otherwise, as you say, this discussion is "a bunch of bullshit". Also, I should warn you, you are at 2RR on WJLA-TV. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:49, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the warning! See how far it gets you. BTW, since you're confusing first and third person consistently, make sure you keep an accurate count yourself of every time you reinstate unverified BLP info. Don't you have anything better to do? Go and find references for your Yellow Pages--you seem to know where they are. Drmies (talk) 04:50, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
      • Seems you beat me. If all you can give me is arrogant attitude about reading the phone book (who has a phone book nowadays, honestly?), that shows you are willing to edit war this and misuse TWINKLE. That is fine, I can just ask for it removed for misuse. It also shows me you are not worth my time. Come back when you are willing to get consensus, get an RFC or be constructive. Otherwise, you are nothing more than a petty arrogant troll. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:58, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

• Oh, another warning, you are at 2RR on KHQ-TV. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:59, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
  • As are you! I noticed that you removed the notable personalities from that page? Wow. Careful, someone might cite you for removal of sourced content. I think you're throwing a bit too much weight around here. You know, next time I remove unverified BLP info somewhere, slap a vandal template on my talk page rightaway and save yourself some trouble. Or report me at ANI or AIV. Either way, stop threatening; it's not polite. Drmies (talk) 05:05, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Oh, that phone book thing, that's funny (Yellow Pages is actually a different thing. And I still use it, for coupons). And...when am I allowed to "come back" to my own talk page, massa? Drmies (talk) 05:07, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

• Now who is stalking who, hmmm? - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:41, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
  • So you admit to having stalked me? Nice. You know, I just read your talk page, and looked at the article one editor was having an issue with. BTW, the editor said someone was being "immature" (they didn't even mention your name) and you go whining to an administrator? You called me a "petty arrogant troll," on my talk page! How's that for civility?

    I looked at that discussion about a digital channel that the editor apparently had first-hand experience with and you didn't know jack about. You did act immature, edit warring over something you had no evidence for. Seriously, duh? Now that's immature. So here's the thing: an editor has a legitimate issue with you, you refuse mediation, you asked the user not to post on your talk page, and when they do ('cause they have no other place to discuss matters with you) you cry foul and twist an admin's arm into rebuking them. Two can play at that: stay away from my talk page. You can look, but you can't touch. OK? And if you too, I'll try and cozy up to someone and whine. (Yes, that's what it's called.) No need to respond, Homer. Stay away from my talk page. And no, I don't want to mediate shit with you either. Drmies (talk) 03:37, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Zaans Museum

The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your response. I have had enough with that member, and the administrators here seem to not be too concerned with the actions he is taking. I see I am not the only one who has problems with the actions he is doing here. Perhaps you could add to the section where I had to defend myself to the administrator user:Willking1979 's wall as well, I could use all the backing I can get. Necrat (talk) 02:20, 22 May 2010 (UTC)NECRAT

• Hey Necrat, Wilking did what they thought was right, and while I don't agree with them, I know that pushing the point is not going to help much. Leave it be as far as their involvement is concerned; your issue is not with them, and you know if someone is immature you don't necessarily have to point that out, though I clearly don't always practice what I preach here (TPS, not sarcasm--irony!). Listen, Wikipedia is big enough for all of us; there must be plenty of places where your interest in Wikipedia and your interests in the world at large can be put to good use. Stay away from articles that people you don't want to run into keep a close eye on, since it's not worth it. Let them be. Not all articles can be great. If all else fails, hit "Random article"--nine times out of ten you'll hit an article that needs improvement, and once every fifty hits you come across something fascinating. Did You Know that at one point someone tried to have "Every Sperm Is Sacred" deleted? Good luck, Drmies (talk) 03:44, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Audrey O'Brien Nelson

article says that it needs more citations. Current citations include the CDC (centers for disease control) the Veterans Administration, the University of South Florida, the Service to America awards site and the Washington Post. Many more sources are available, but if these do not qualify as good sources I am not sure what to look for. Please help. --Hainesfisherman (talk) 17:25, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

• Fisherman, thanks for your note. Look at the second paragraph, which is full of important in formation and qualifications. That her studies were funded, that she is a peer reviewer (might not be notable in the first place--it's not that special in academia), and especially that she is "well respected," those things need reliable sources. That means independent, third-party sources, and the two references given are to websites that are not independent and basically have her resume. Same with that CDC reference: that's not a reliable source the way that's defined on Wikipedia. Please see WP:RS for those guidelines. Even the Washington Post reference, that's not to a newspaper article, but rather to an editorial column by an interested group. If this Biography of a Living Person (BLP) is to stand, it will need independent verification of the information in the article, and parts of it will have to be rewritten so it doesn't read like a resume. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:18, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification... I had used another wikipedia page on a nurse academic Kate Lorig as an example of what you must be looking for. I will go back and make the changes as outlined.--Hainesfisherman (talk) 18:23, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

• Hmm I can't say I'm overly impressed with the sources in that article. I think you ought to try a Google News search and build the article around what you find there--or, conversely, scrap everything you can't find a reliable source for (not everything in Google News is automatically reliable, and not everything reliable is found through Google, of course). Drmies (talk) 18:25, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks so much for your help, I am trying to get this done as you have requested. Unfortunately the area of research in nursing sciences does not lend itself to a Google news Search. I went back through and checked the sources to see what sources may be unreliable, I also went to the catagory American Nurses to look at more articles on other nurses to see what sources were deemed reliable for those articles. I just started at the top of the alphabet and looked at pages on nurses who were known for nursing (not a nurse who was famous for being someones wife). Virtually every page I found listed little to no references or simply had links to falcuty bios as thier "verifiable" source. I have now linked to a number of references including websites of various groups that present awards as evidence of the awards. Various bios from a variety of different sources (which I believe Dr. Nelson does not have direct editorial control over) including the VA and as evidence of her education and credentials. A couple examples of research papers to verify her areas of research, and pages on sites that have biographies on Dr. Nelson and mention her selection as a speaker or presenter or award winner (examples to show she is "well respected") Some of these even use the words "well respected" and "nationally known" within the document itself. If documents showing she was selected to speak at various conferences and has spoken at events throughout the US and asia, as well at to congress and the united nations, do not constitute verifiable sources that she is well known and respected in her industry I do not know what would.. This is nursing academia, not professional baseball, there just is not going to be a bunch of newspaper articles on these subjects... everything is acedemic papers and reputation. The washington post article is an article on a recurring section about important federal employees that are under-recognised due to there field, I am not sure what makes that a bad reference. Dr. Nelson's numerous achievements, and research contributions are the very things that make her so notable in this field, if we take them out of the page and list only the most basic information there will be very little of interest in the article and it would be a stub. Nobody has written or likely will write the book "Top Scientists in Nursing, how the science of nursing is changing the world" but if such a book was written Dr. Nelson would likely be included in it. I edit on DMOZ and various other sites, I am not Dr. Nelson, nor am I a family memeber of close friend of hers, I certainly do not want to have a bias tone, but I do want this article to be interesting and present the noteable things about her. Other than scrapping the whole thing, or making it incredibly basic I do not know what would please you, unfortunately if held to standards beyond what I have tried to meet so far I am afraid that virtually no notable nurse academic could be listed in an article, and nearly every nurse article I read with the exceptions of a few outright famous and dead nurses like Florence Nightingale would also need to be deleted. Please help me figure this out, and thank you again for your time and teaching.--Hainesfisherman (talk) 20:03, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
• The sites you refer to simply don't count as reliable sources, that's the issue--of course a website for an organization that invites her to speak is going to speak of her in glowing terms. And the plain truth is that not everyone is notable by our standards: this applies to nurses as well as to journalists, professors, etc. But Mary Fields Hall has one very reliable source, Wilma Scott Heide does; Gertrude Nelson doesn't, but this search indicates that such sources exist. Those are the three that I picked at random from the category "American nurses". The fourth I picked (at random) was Florence Wald--also plenty of sources. Now, I stand by my comments on the Washington Post article (it's an opinion piece, and those don't count for reliable sources in this regard), but surely IF she is so notable, then real sources should exist, and notability ought to be proven either following the general rules or the rules for academics. I'll see what I can find, but I urge you to acquaint yourself with the policies. Happy source hunting, Drmies (talk) 20:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
• BTW, no wonder a Google search for "Audrey O'Brien Nelson" +nurse didn't deliver anything at all--professionally, she goes under "Audrey L. Nelson," which doesn't give a whole lot more, but that's better than nothing. Note, BTW, the sentence I rewrote in the article. Drmies (talk) 20:19, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
  • "Audrey Nelson" + nurse brings up 54 references including various newspaper and magazine articles quoting her work. I checked the requirements for academics and she meets many of them. I see that you are actively making changes, so I will hold off on doing anything else to mess it up until you're done. Then if you would like I can add in some other references I found and change the language if needed. Thanks again for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hainesfisherman (talk • contribs) 21:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
    • No no, don't wait for me--I got other things to do this afternoon! I just made the one edit because when I looked at the reference I saw that it added to her notability, and I wanted to make sure that the language in the article reflected that as well. Happy editing, Drmies (talk) 21:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
      • removed material that seemed bias or unbased, added new references and mentions of items that qualify her for a page based on the academics guidelines. Cleaned up the article. It should now meet all required guidelines, is it ok for me to take of the warnings now, or will you do that. Thanks again for the guidence and help with this.--Hainesfisherman (talk) 22:23, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

You're Larry, I'm Curley. Now all we need is a Moe

A trout slap for both of us for this one. I added this to Imagine Cup yesterday because I was an idiot and didn't read the source in its entirety. An IP editor tried to remove it twice and we both reverted him. Turns out he was right.

Still, a good example of why edit summaries are a damn good idea. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 19:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

• Ha, I agree. With the last part! It's kind of along the lines of "verifiability, not truth"--unexplained blanking is blanking, even if it's correct...I didn't leave a warning for this person, and I'm glad I didn't. Thanks for the heads-up! And I like my trout buttered. Drmies (talk) 19:28, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

• About "unexplained blanking is blanking", there is one major pitfall. A few years ago this happened to me. IP editor, multiple removals of large amounts of text, multiple reverts, no edit summaries. Turns out that what was being removed was a blatant BLP violation. I was warned but I was lucky. The other huggler involved lost rollback and huggle access. Revert yes but always take a good look at what is being removed first. (and that's why huggle is not a very good tool for anything but obvious vandalism because it only shows you quickfire difs) Doesn't apply in this case because Imagine_Cup isn't a BLP and what we both restored had a source, just a poorly applied one by yours truly. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 22:37, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bullshido.net (4th nomination)

Hi, Drmies. Because you participated in Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 October 2#Bullshido.net, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bullshido.net (4th nomination). Cunard (talk) 21:20, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

This discussion is making my head hurt.--kelapstick (talk) 00:23, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

A double thanks

I wanted to thank you for two things. You mentioned in an edit summary that the order of references using my preferred method didn't matter. Well, even though I knew this, for some reason I had gone out of my way to list them in the order in which they appeared in the article. Your comment got me thinking, and in the latest article I created, I listed the refs in alphabetical order by their names, which I think is much more logical. And secondly... for five wikiyears, I had never submitted an article for DYK. But your DYK work inspired me to finally go for it, with the above-mentioned article. I was surprised at how quickly it happened. Two days after I nominated it, there was my first DYK on the main page. So, thanks for the inspiration! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:14, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

• Mandarax! It's always a pleasure to hear from you, especially when it's nice things. Just the other day I was writing something and couldn't remember exactly how that method worked; I'm glad you reminded me. It is clean. As for the DYK stuff--well, it's fun, and I'm glad you enjoyed it too (I just had a recent streak of submissions but I think they're all in the pipeline; I was happy with Verkade, though I never saw any of those girls--before my time). And I edited your article the hard way when I looked at it. I meant no offense to Eisenstein, but those weren't improvements. Listen, I want you to know to which extent I look at you as a model to emulate--in this edit summary, earlier today, I wasn't kidding. Now, enjoy your weekend--come Monday I'm flying out again to the land of beer and cheese. If you (or 99, if you happen to drop by) need me to sample anything specific, I would be more than happy to oblige. Take care, Drmies (talk) 22:22, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your kind words. (I should change the heading for this section to "A triple thanks".) I'm definitely going to have to start stalking you more if you're going to continue mentioning me in your edit summaries. Unfortunately, in this case your edit summary was sadly but humorously ironic. Check out the further vandalism which existed at the time of my edit. There's no excuse for my carelessness. Having said that, here's my excuse.... That edit was just to correct a link, so I didn't look around as I would have had I been reverting vandalism.

Have a good weekend and a great trip! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:12, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Aiaiai--I should have checked more carefully...shame, shame...my excuse: they were vandalizing while I was cleaning it up so I wanted to be quick. Anyway, you caught it, and together we made great strides toward the furthering of knowledge. ;) Drmies (talk) 04:15, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Pulaka

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Lamborghini

Hi Drmies, I noticed that you've already warned the user 173.171.234.39 regarding their contributions to the article Lamborghini. I believe this user has now registered themselves under the name User:CHARLES400GT, and is now dedicated to ensuring that the content in the Lamborghini article is biased towards declaring Lamborghini's early cars as "perfect", under the absurd justification that such statements are encyclopedic because Ferruccio Lamborghini himself committed them to writing. As User:SamBlob has not answered back to my message to him, I was hoping I could call your attention to this matter, so we may decide whether we need to elevate this issue further. Thanks, Rodface (talk) 23:57, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

• Well, it looks like you got matters in hand...yes, I remember those edits now. The Lamborghini loving is fine, and I'm a fan, but this hating on Ferrari...what's the point? But wasn't there another article, for a specific car, where that editor was at it? Anyway, I'm going to leave them a message. Keep me posted. Drmies (talk) 00:11, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

WEWS

Hi.

I understand what you were trying to do on the WEWS page, but all TV stations listed on Wiki with news teams have the entire team listed.

It's like the roster on a baseball team, yes some are more notable than others, but the whole team gets listed.

Thanks.

Vjmlhds 16:29, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

• • • Vjmlhds, a false analogy, there. The problem lies in the definition of "team". (And I've pointed this out before.) A team is not selected people in an organization who happen to have had their faces on a TV screen. Compare with movie articles. There, producers, directors, writers, actors, editors all get Wikipedia billing, according to whether they made significant contributions. There is absolutely no reason to allow a Wikipedia listing, simply because someone happened to have held a certain job, but is otherwise non-notable. There are CEOs of corporations who have been flagged as non-notable. Job title does not = notability. Regards, Piano non troppo (talk) 18:06, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

• And they're all BLP violations. Just because something is done doesn't mean it's right. WP is not a directory. Drmies (talk) 16:35, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
  • ...and I reverted the rest. Take it to talk. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 16:36, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Haha, it's Homer again--master weight thrower, talk page stalker, and BLP policy ignorer. Didn't I ask you to stay away from here? Careful, I might complain to an administrator that I'm being oppressed! Drmies (talk) 16:41, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
      • Ah, it is Drmies, arrogant TVS overlord who knows all. Careful, an admin might tell you to take it to talk. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 16:43, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
        • Tsk, tsk--remember you called me a troll a few days ago? And now you're feeding them! Speaking of feeding, I left a cookie on User:Necrat's talk page. I'm sure you agree, as do a few others, that Necrat has been dealt with too harshly. Drmies (talk) 16:47, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
          • Ah yes, coddle the trolls, remember you are not supposed to feed them. Oh, if you are going to half-vandalize a page just delete the whole section not just 95% of it. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 16:49, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

<--Your analogy goes awry: you called me a troll, and look up, up: this is my talk page. I'm not dissing you on yours. BTW, That remark about "half-vandaliz[ing] a page" shows clearly that you don't know the difference between notable and non-notable, between verified and unverified information. But you proved that already. Remember also that your characterization of others' edits as "vandalism" has been criticized, in your treatment of good-faith editors like Necrat who clearly knew their shit better than you did. Don't give your critics any more material to work with, Homer. I say this for your own good, of course, not to suggest in any way that your actions and your edit-warring is petulant or anything like that. Now stop feeding the trolls--that is, stay off my talk page. Drmies (talk) 16:58, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Drmies, as you've noted there are substantial problems with the way NeutralHomer has dictatorial control over TV station lists. On the recommendation of various people in a dispute,[2][3], I added this comment to WP:TVS, where I made some of the same observations that you have.[4] (Note that NeutralHomer also recommended I take the issue to WP:TVS.) My comment was never responded to, but archived.[5] I've gone so far to suggest in Wikimedia Strategic Planning that a high priority should be controlling prolific, abusive editors who have managed to rig the system to continue their behavior.[6] Something needs to be done with editors who manage to run the editorial review process around in circles, until everyone is too confused or weary to take definitive action. Regards, Piano non troppo (talk) 17:35, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Piano, thank you. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one, though I take no joy in it, and I don't like having to resort to sarcasm and removing comments from my talk page. I saw a note on their talk page a couple of days ago from Necrat, and that got me wondering. I don't mind disagreement, and most of the times where Homer and I disagreed I didn't go back to it (except for one time, can't remember which article, where it turned out I made an edit where I had made one some time before, which Homer reverted--hadn't checked the history). But this name-calling and threatening, that has to stop. I can handle it, but Necrat was driven to despair (well...) by them. He claims continuously that there is broad consensus and policy agreement for his edits and there isn't (my claims come from a reading of BLP and NOTDIR policies, and are, of course, open to discussion and disagreement, but I'm not going around crusading and editing every TV station article). Thanks again, and I'll have a look at your comments. Drmies (talk) 17:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

BTW, I just saw the comment you made at TVS: I couldn't agree more. Drmies (talk) 17:56, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Beowulf's Children

I saw that you've contributed on Beowulf's Children page. It appears that I'm not the only one who thinks that the article needs improvement. I'm about to finish the book, so I can't contribute much just yet in fear of spoilers, but would you care to join us and help? I'm looking forward to your reply. 118.173.232.245 (talk) 03:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Nikki Haley

Couldn't you have been a bit more discriminating in your revert to edits to the Nikki Haley article? I and several others had made several improvements to the article, and then it was all thrown away when you reverted a total of 13 edits, instead of just fixing what you (rightly) considered to be a problem. RenniePet (talk) 11:45, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, I probably could have. Then again, I reverted to the edit right before this one, and that IP made three more. They were subsequently removed (I didn't see that at the time), but there were two more BLP violations after that, and I was interested in removing that nonsense as fast as I could, and I had asked for page protection in the meantime, since that gossip was coming in very quickly and very often, as the history shows. I apologize for also removing your constructive edit, sure, but I hope you understand where I was coming from. Drmies (talk) 22:06, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Mien Ruys

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Eastern Docklands

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Irony

Hi, I had told you that I should start stalking you more, and today I came across this edit. I hope you don't think of me whenever you see that anyone has "passed away"! I was amused by the "coyedit" irony. The funny thing about "ironic" is how frequently people misuse the word, where "coincidental" is often more appropriate. I once started mockingly using the word in situations where it clearly was not correct, as a comic tribute to those who unintentionally misuse it. But then it occurred to me... what if that's what all those other people are doing? Well, there I go prattling on again, and this time I haven't even been drinking, so I have no excuse.

I hope you had and/or are still having a great time on your trip. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

• Irony is coincidence if, for instance, the mistake bears a direct relationship to the content? We need to think about this--it's possible that we are on the threshold of a breakthrough in literary scholarship. And I do think about you and "passed away" since I've been organizing a passing and the attendant logistics, including advertisements and cards. Without any disrespect to vegetarians, present company included, I am pleased to say that I finally ate Zeeuws spek, and that Albert Heijn has an admirable selection of pork products. All the best, Drmies (talk) 10:33, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Some old friends

Heads up, some familiar faces are back. I get geninely bemused... do they think if they go away for a year, do no work on their articles and simply re-post them when SALT wears off, noone will notice and notability will miraculously have appeared despite a total absence of sources? Articles of note: Lucifugum and Wicca Music (the latter sounds legit until you realise it is another Themis advert; they have no notability, and when that is removed the article has no legs). Blackmetalbaz (talk) 12:40, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

• Nooooo... Sorry, I haven't kept my eye on them either. Wicca music has been deleted before, hasn't it? Maybe I'll drop SpacemanSpiff a line--he's a diehard metal fan, and as an admin he's even more a fan of WP:N. So, where were you? Did you finish your thesis? Good to hear from you! Take care, Drmies (talk) 13:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

archimania

i am not affiliated with archimania, just an architectural fan of theirs. if it seemed that i was too close, it is only in that i really respect their work. they are one of maybe 2 firms in the region doing really quality work. i noticed that a few firms that are only okay have entries, and i wanted to rectify that. thank you for cleaning up my messy refrences. it was my first attempt at writing an article. i haven't contributed anything else since your initial fact check. i have noticed recently that there have been others who have subsequently contributed and changed the article. what does it take to get the warning off the header of the entry? i want the article to be as fair and neutral as possible. any advice or assistance would be greatly appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmcrae (talk • contribs) 21:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

• I'm just going to take your word for it (and I also like their work a lot, after your article alerted me to it). Please feel free to write up any other architects of firms you deem notable. Thanks for your contributions, and happy editing! Drmies (talk) 11:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for KNSM Island

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

I never thanked you for the virtual cookie after dealing with that headache here! I appreciate it! Necrat (talk) 07:39, 2 June 2010 (UTC)NECRAT

FYI The headache continues. I filed a complaint on the WP:ANI about him after the nonsense today. Necrat (talk) 18:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)NECRAT

Etymology of Excalibur

Hi Drmies, I wonder if you might have any thoughts on the discussions taking place on my talk page and Talk:Excalibur. I am attempting to broker a compromise, but it's not going very well. Any thoughts? LadyofShalott 15:04, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

POTY

Hi, have you voted yet? Vote for one you like best - more participation makes the results better I think. Funny, you're also someone without login unification - isn't that annoying to always have to login to every project separately? Best Hekerui (talk) 21:57, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks! I voted for the panorama of the Southern Sky. Login unification? I'll look into that, thanks. Take care! Drmies (talk) 10:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I loved that sky image! I voted for the image with the sikh, and I'm excited to find out how this ends. Hekerui (talk) 11:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

There are some pretty awesome pictures there...I went for the one of the mine...--kelapstick (talk) 12:38, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer granted

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Interesting reading

User:Awadewit/TeachingEssay LadyofShalott 04:35, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks Lady--that is interesting. I'll read all of it when I get back, in a day or two. BTW, my own Wikipedia assignment, in the end, was pretty much an abject failure, due to an unhealthy combination of too many not-working students (we can't use the word "lazy" anymore), lack of computer facilities, and a total WP crash on one of the days we had a lab. Shame. Oh, I hear it's hot over in your neck of the woods... Drmies (talk) 10:19, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

There was at least some success though, I believe. Perhaps it would be worth trying again? Of course, there's only so much you can do to get students who don't want to work to do so. Yes, it has been very hot here of late! Have you had a good trip? LadyofShalott 00:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I was casually observing it, and it didn't appear to be a failure, (although I didn't see it through, I'm not very active these days). Some articles got created, so success for Wikipedia at least...and if one of your students caught the bug, success for them too. Funny, you are associating "not working" with not editing Wikipedia, where as when I am editing Wikipedia, I am clearly "not working"...

On a more selfish note, I finally (after 6 months in the making) moved Oyu Tolgoi mine to the mainspace and put it up for DYK. If either of you (or any TPS) would care to fix my atrocious (ferocious?) spelling, grammar, and over all poor copy editing ability, I would be much obliged, and would buy you an airag, should you be in the area (or a Cass if that is more your speed). Also it was 41 °C (106 °F) here today....and that is just the beginning....argh. Cheers, and much thanks. --kelapstick (talk) 12:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Nice article, K. Hey, can you explain this, "The Oyu Tolgoi mine is in the South Gobi Desert of Mongolia, 80 kilometres (50 mi) and the mined copper is expected to be shipped ..."--80 kilometres from what? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:33, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Bahhhhh....Fixed (I think)...much thanks. --kelapstick (talk) 23:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

It's in Queue, but I am a little disappointed that they didn't include the picture in that set...--kelapstick (talk) 01:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Did you ask any of the DYK people why? (Sorry, I haven't been following the DYK pages for a couple of weeks now.) Maybe Ucucha knows what's happening. Hey K, the mrs. and I drank a few bottles of Reserve speciale from La Binchoise--very, very tasty. Lady, they're available in your town as well. Drmies (talk) 02:15, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

William March

I champion your additions to the William March page...I got injured and was unable to finish the work, but it makes me feel much better to know someone (who cares) is adding material and such...I will hopefully be doing some more work in the near future, as my condition has leveled off a wee bit...Thanks for your work! - Dia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diarmada (talk • contribs) 20:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

• Hey, thanks for the note. I ordered a couple of the books and was able to make some additions to the main and other articles. Sorry to hear about an injury, but welcome back. Keep me posted if you ever want to (again) consider GA status for the article. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 21:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for your kind words...I was originally writing a fairly short bio on March years ago, but pretty much gave up when an aspect of his life (that is critical to the bio) could not be included and have his remaining family appeased (with maybe some legal issues tacked on as well)...I think Beidler was going to do a bio as well, but he turned his attention more to the Vietnam-era writers.

  I wish there was a way to do March justice, showing his torment and also his great humanity, but I do not think it will ever be done - the Simmonds biography might as well have included his grocery lists and hospital charts (it does have great researched material and depth lacking in most bios), but it suffers from the lack of a (decent) editor and an emotional connection that is sorely needed.

  There is not much renewed interest in him; even with the Company K movie and short bio/docu (although, there was that Bad Seed remake planned a few years back). I hate that he may be doomed to fall into the shadow of less worthy folks...anyway, thanks again; if you have not seen the movie or docu, I have them both on DVD, and am willing to share - just ask - Diarmada 06:26, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Thanks. I feel exactly the way you do about Simmonds; it's wonderful to have, but one can hardly see the forest for the trees. Beidler teaches March, but I guess you're right, he had too many other interests (including that book on the Iraq war). I have the movie on DVD but haven't even gotten around to watch it; I planned to have a showing at my school but Shakespeare got in the way. (Is the documentary on the DVD?) BTW, I had also thought about taking March on the road in a lecture series for the Alabama Humanities Foundation, but apparently that's been done before. I may still do it in the future. Thanks again for your note, and keep in touch. Drmies (talk) 13:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Spanish is dead in the Philippines. It was abolished by the Filipino government in 1987 because of political reasons. It is an Extinct language.

Hey, stop adding Point of Views to gain attention. Spanish is no longer spoken in the Philippines. It was abolished during the government of Corazon Aquino in 1987. Wether you like it or not. Spanish is dead and one speaks these language anymore and that's a fact.

• That's nonsense. Drmies (talk) 14:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Just so you know, IP blocked 48 hours for block evasion. Elockid ^(Talk) 20:14, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Elockid! Drmies (talk) 17:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

New message

Thanks for the help on my new article. BTW if what this guy says is true then President Obama should abolish "four letter words" from the USA, as if it was that easy. :-) Borock (talk) 15:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

• You're welcome! A really small thingy in code sometimes has big results, and you can destroy your eyes trying to find it--I speak from experience. Take care, Drmies (talk) 15:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Terese Nielsen

Hello,

I am letting you know that Terese Nielsen has been nominated for deletion again, as part of a series of AFDs based on the deletion nomination of List of Magic: The Gathering artists, as you participated in the previous AFD for Terese Nielsen. 204.153.84.10 (talk) 19:37, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the revert on my user page. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:36, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

• Sure thing! I don't like people messing with dodos--they have a hard enough time already. Drmies (talk) 17:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Cheers

Hehehe, Thanks for the backup there :D James'ööders 15:34, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Greenhouse

Hello! I was wondering if you could translate the Netherlands section to this article. I saw it on a documentary the other night and I was astounded at the scale of the greenhouses in the Netherlands. In fact it may be worth having its own article. ANyway can you translate the section? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 11:28, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

•  Done Drmies (talk) 15:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Lovely job. Thanks! Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 19:52, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Anthony and FFL

Last November, you added a section entitled "Disputes after her death" to the Susan B. Anthony page, a section about Anthony's words being co-opted by FFL to further their aims. That section was removed by a recent editor, and FFL was given more of a voice, more weight. I'm taking a stab at returning the information you supplied, augmented, so please keep an eye on the page to see how I fare. Binksternet (talk) 01:49, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

• Binkster, I went through the history and looked at the current version, and I have to say that I think you did an excellent job in terms of references, balance, and prose (and I added the article to my watchlist). Thanks! Drmies (talk) 02:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your time and attention. Binksternet (talk) 13:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
    • I must say that overall the changes are quite good. But I wonder should I go around the community and track down folks that agree with my version. I don't think so because I would be trolling for supporters and that is just bad form.--InaMaka (talk) 15:20, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
      • I'm glad we agree on at least one thing. But what Binkster was doing in no way resembles trolling: they were, in my view, seeking a second opinion and building consensus in the best way possible, by leaving a message on my talk page. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 15:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
      • Bad form would be Wikipedia:Canvassing. Good form is finding the one editor who worked to add similar material to the article, to ask for another eyeball. What I did was good group editing, not canvassing. Binksternet (talk) 16:46, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

new signing

Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did to Marco Motta. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Juve and Udinese did not announced the deal, and Motta did not having a medical test yet, means the deal is not completed. Which means there is no relible source to support he is a Juve player. Matthew_hk tc 16:43, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

• Haha, you template me for adding a period to the end of a sentence? With a level 3 warning? Even if I had added that information, a. this warning is overkill and b. you don't template the regulars. Drmies (talk) 16:50, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Please check the history, and then kindly remove that silly warning you left on my talk page. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:49, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

someone add an unsourced content and someone improve it, instead of remove it. I will consider he know what happened. I already revert the edit and given warning to the user that first add the transfer is done. And it just spent little to check history and talk page for a smart guy to find what happen before edit. Matthew_hk tc 16:53, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

That's the worst apology I've ever read. Are we having language difficulties? You give me a level 3 warning for correcting punctuation, and then you try to make up for it by saying you warned the other editor? Drmies (talk) 16:57, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm still waiting on you to explain why you'd give a level 3 warning to someone over a perfectly correct edit. You haven't apologized or removed the warning from my talk page. If you forgot the content of my original question to you, you deleted it from your talk page here. Drmies (talk) 18:32, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

I said you deserve it. Everyone a give level 3. Matthew_hk tc 03:22, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

• You're a moron. You're giving me a level 3, adding unsourced material warning, for the proper insertion of correct punctuation. Do you have any idea how ridiculous your actions are? Drmies (talk) 04:29, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

  I was going to post this at ANI, but I agree with the closure of the report, so I will post it here because Matthew hk has helpfully removed my message already.

  I have just posted at User talk:Matthew hk (permalink) asking that they not issue warnings unless they are able to explain the action in reasonable English. I think the civility lapse from Drmies is entirely acceptable under the circumstances. Johnuniq (talk) 05:20, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Cheers Drmies, this senior templator rampage was quite embarrassing. East of Borschov 09:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

i apologize for giving wrong templated message and i should not giving any warning and explained Motta's transfer rumours in the view point of WP:Footy member. 210.6.121.21 (talk) 13:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

(Just wanted to add that Matthew has been unblocked and is not socking here. :)) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:16, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Moonriddengirl--and thank you Matthew; apology accepted. Drmies (talk) 14:49, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Caponigro.

Whew... what a lot a fluff. Looking at what you nominated, I applaud your good sense. But as it was good practice for me and a decent challenge... I took that spammy piece[7] and made it something much more neutral and encyclopedic.[8] And, not finding any about acting anywhere other than on his own website(s), I removed all the acting stuff as unverifiable... sticking only to facts as could be cited. It appears his work is definitely of some note in his industry, as they always speak about his work and quote him,[9] and he has found his way into numerous books as a "paragon" or "guru" in his field.[10] What say? Worth a keep for further improvement, with a very very careful watch-eye so the spam does not return? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 01:09, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

As Kahn said to Kirk, and with far less whimsey... "You task me... you task me." (chuckle) Even if I could not do it, the mere experience was helpful. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 01:25, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Haha MQS, I always enjoy what you come up with. Hope you're doing alright as a regular rank and file editor. Cheers from the Deep South! Drmies (talk) 01:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Some wins, some losses... but no major complaints. Hope your weekend is fun. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 01:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

It's La Binchoise time

I really need to keep a closer eye on your contributions. I just discovered this. Thanks for the offer of a beer. That's mighty kind of you. I'm envious of the wide variety of beers you seem to have sampled. My limited experience in that field pales in comparison.

BTW, I had previously issued you a very premature welcome back, and now that you're apparently really back, I'll wish you a very belated welcome back. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks Mandarax, that's really nice of you. I actually had another diff for you and directly inspired by you, this one, but another editor thought the topic wasn't notable enough, and that "it wasn't even a good stub." Ah well, what do I know. Anyway, I bought another 4-pack of La Binchoise (it is really good and ridiculously expensive), and I have some Chimays, besides the obligatory Stella Artois. So come on by--the weather here is beautiful today, and we are about to fill up the pool (it came with inflatable dinosaurs, which I'm sure you'll love). Our neighborhood even has a 4th of July parade, so come on down. Drmies (talk) 15:12, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation. I don't think I've ever been to a 4th of July parade. (However, I did attend the Santa Barbara Solstice Parade last weekend.) I've had expensive beers, but never a "ridiculously expensive" one. Sounds intriguing.

I did notice that other edit summary after leaving the above note, but by then I was too tired to write. While adding a DEFAULTSORT certainly is my type of edit, that specific one actually wasn't, as I almost always avoid adding sort keys for any article where the subject's name looks like it might be Arabic, Chinese, or Icelandic (even if they're Swedish).

Have a fun 4th! And with all that fancy beer plus inflatable dinosaurs, I'm sure you will. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I gather you're back in America, while I'm still enjoying myself studying fossils in Leiden. Perhaps some other time. Today, I found the article De mésaventure van een Fransch heertje zonder pantalon aan het strand te Zandvoort, and I thought I should tell you about it. But, of course, you actually wrote the article (part of it, at least). Have a fun 4th of July! Ucucha 19:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

That article was fun. Yes, I'm back here now--and I am glad you're having a good time. They have microscopic remains that could once have been teeth in Leiden? A friend of mine is the professor of Frisian there; please tell him I said hi if you run into him. Hup Holland hup! Drmies (talk) 20:00, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Real teeth (hundreds of them, in fact), and some other things. It's always full of Mikrotia teeth here (from Gargano), which are of a rather more convenient size than the things you're thinking of. However, the fossils I study are smaller; the smallest tooth I've ever measured was 0.51 x 0.54 mm (a Calomys hummelincki). I think the chances of my running into a professor of Frisian are slim, but if I do, I'll remember it. Fryslân boppe, of course. So far, I have been able to avoid seeing even a minute of the Dutch team's play. Ucucha 20:17, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

So you don't drink beer and you don't watch football. Are you sure you're Dutch? Do you like bitterballen? And if you need something to sink your teeth into, can you figure out which journal/periodical is indicated by "Church Q. Rev."? I'd appreciate it! Drmies (talk) 20:18, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Never mind: Church Quarterly Review. Found it thanks to the good folks at Cornell. Drmies (talk) 20:29, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Bitterballen? Terrible! But I have a bike; is that enough? Ucucha 20:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

• No. Drmies (talk) 21:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Did you see the things I wrote about the Church Quarterly Review (or something similar) on my talk page? Ucucha 08:43, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

No, not yet, but I'll have a look tomorrow. Thanks Ucucha, and I hope those noisy lower-class soccer fans did not keep you from your work. Drmies (talk) 04:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

List of words having different meanings in Spain and Latin America

The article List of words having different meanings in Spain and Latin America has been submitted to the Articles for deletion process.

As you were involved in the previous deletion discussion for this article, I thought I would inform you of the new discussion;

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of words having different meanings in Spain and Latin America (2nd nomination)

Thanks,  Chzz  ►  14:20, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Nice to see you . . .

. . . here. ^Bongo_matic 09:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

• Ouch, already a redlink. Good to see you again, Bongo. We just came back from a fool's errand, for which we drove ten hours today. Drmies (talk) 03:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Summer fun! ^Bongo_matic 08:39, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Kirby vacuum cleaner removals

I am disturbed by your removal of so much sourced content. The ConsumerAffairs site appears reliable, as does the Post-Standard article. Savidan 16:28, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

• Sorry, I don't know what Post-Standard article you are referring to. The problem with Consumer Affairs is that that entire article consists of complaints by customers: I do not see any editorial oversight in that article or indeed on that website, and I doubt that the site would qualify as a reliable source by Wikipedia's standards, but feel free to post that question on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard, and if the community feels it is a reliable source then it can be used as such. But you will have to agree that Kirby Company suffered from a serious lack of serious documentation, and basically read as a long complaint--that falls foul of Wikipedia:Reliable sources and undue weight as well. I am sure there are many valid bones to pick with the company, but they need to be a. sourced reliably and b. represented fairly. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 16:37, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

The Post-Standard was the syracuse.com. Savidan 16:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

• Which verified the following statement: "On June 20, 2010 two salesman were charged with damaging a mattress during a demonstration." I am happy to see that you did not reinstate that rather silly sentence. And while I applaud your improvements to the article, there is no need to be snippy in your edit summary. After 40,000+ edits on Wikipedia, and 35 years of reading newspapers, I would deem the Wall Street Journal reliable enough, yes. Thank you very much. Drmies (talk) 17:03, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Virginia Military Institute

Thanks for the fine pruning of my alma mater page. Mac Riada (talk) 17:15, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

• You know, I think that lead could use some expansion--a few general remarks on the school's history, place, and function might make for a nice second paragraph. Perhaps you could try your hand at it? Drmies (talk) 23:18, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Good luck with that!

Hi there my friend, VASCO here,

2010 FIFA World Cup over, you came close to the glory, alas it was not to be...My team? I had no national team in this tournament (Pepe, Liédson, Deco). Now, for the title of my message: one more time, this absolutely cold-hearted mean machine that answers to the name of User:Matthew hk has done it again (speaking about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drmies#new_signing), and you said you were still hoping for an excuse and he basically said "You deserve the warning"? What on earth is this?!?!?

Years ago, when i was editing anon, got two of these warnings, NO apologies of course. This user also has ZERO knowledge of English, with all due respect (for most users) what is he doing editing here? Hope you fare well on your vacations (now on in a few weeks, and if you already had them, hope they were spectacular), keep it up, from Portugal - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 01:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

• Ahahh!! I noticed he has been blocked, but watch this man: he has continued to operate after that, anon (this IP and "contributions" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/210.6.121.21), also had "the pleasure" of receiving a message from him from that address (watch the "stupid" remark, typical of the person http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:VascoAmaral#Mauricio_Pinilla) Watch out, cheers - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 02:03, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Hey Vasco, thanks for your note, man. Hey, at least we deserved to lose, I am sad to say. Still, I would have gladly accepted an undeserved win. No more vacation here I'm afraid, but I saw the beginning of the World Cup from the Netherlands. Maybe next year or the year after we will spend some time in Portugal--I hear it's lovely! Take care, and thanks again for your message; I really appreciate it. Drmies (talk) 04:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Jonathan Rossini

Hello, Drmies. You have new messages at 210.6.121.21's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

210.6.121.21 (talk) 10:11, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for filling in the source on John McDowell Leavitt, which I'd left dangling for a very long time. MarmadukePercy (talk) 02:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Faraz Anwar

Take a look at Faraz Anwar's article, maybe you can "save it" by doing a cleanup.--Cannibaloki 19:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I did what I could with the sources I could find, Loki. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:22, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

This article looks clean now. Thank you. ← looks like a gremlin with lipstick—aaaaahhhhh!!! --Cannibaloki 15:11, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Did you know

... that groundhogs don't know? Ucucha 20:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• Haha, that's funny. Drmies (talk) 20:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Faraz Anwar

Sorry about that. The reason I removed that "Pakistan's master of progressive rock" part was due to such claims not usually being fit for wikipedia. Come to think of it, I probably did not think the edit over as much as I should have, especially since it is actually sourced. Do you think that sentence is in harmony with the neutral point of view policy on wikipedia. It could be, though, because it is stating that someone said it as such (with a citation) instead of actually passing it off as fact. Happy editing. Backtable _{Speak to me}^{concerning my deeds.} 02:55, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for your note. That he is hailed in a reliable source as such a master, that statement is neutral: he was hailed as such--it's not unlike the listing in the lead for Meat Loaf, that he is #96 in some ranking. Ordinarily I wouldn't put something like that in the lead, but there isn't much else to go on. There's little doubt in my mind that he has notability, but sources from that part of the world are sometimes hard to come by--in English. So that's in part why it's in there. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:59, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
  • We should concern ourselves about Backtable's deeds of flesh? --Cannibaloki 15:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Do we? It looks pretty clean, thanks to your edits also. It's not a well-sourced article, unfortunately, but they're on a notable label, rights? There's really nothing here. Drmies (talk) 15:53, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
      • Only books and printed magazines can save this [Deeds of Flesh] article.--Cannibaloki 16:53, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Wi[k]ihounding

I was going to try discussing this with you first, but since you seem determined to hound me and push your POV at every opportunity I guess well have to go straight to ANI. Sucks really, but you leave me no choice. TJ Black (talk) 06:04, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

• No, thank you. Drmies (talk) 14:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)