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I detest conflict and have removed myself from editing since my articles have become a point of contention with one particular user intent on starting edit wars. Also, when applying for page protection, it is a conflict of interest when the user you are trying to block has the ability to delete those requests. I have zero tolerance for this. I have closed out my open peer review and have inactivated myself from my WikiProjects. Wikipedia didn't just lose an editor, they lost a donor. Put a fork in me, I'm done.

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Hi. I am really glad to see all the good work you have done on Elcor, Minnesota. Just a note on your most recent edits, however. Encyclopedias by nature are tertiary sources. That means (as I am sure you know) that original research is not allowed. One of your recent cites noted an interview. That would be considered original research. All sources must be published. They do not have to be internet accessible, but the do have to be accessible in some way. Still really good work though and thanks for improving the people's encyclopedia. If you ever need any policy or technical help, feel free to drop me a note on my talk page. Happy editing! John from Idegon (talk) 19:06, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In reply to your email, I am going to leave you in the hands of my much more capable than I friend Coal town guy. Original research is not allowed; I think even the email you mentioned would be considered OR. Although using primary sources such as documents is allowed, secondary sources like books, periodicals, newspapers and academic journals are much preferred. CTG is amazing at writing about places that formerly were. Me, I do better with places that are still. Happy editing!

BTW, userpage messages are the usual way of communicating on Wikipedia. Email is generally only for sensitive things. John from Idegon (talk) 00:10, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, JFI. Per your constructive criticism, I have removed the personal citations that might be construed as OR per Wikipedia guidelines and is unavailable for verification by independent third parties save one: the article I wrote which was accepted for publication in the periodical Range Reminiscing. Copies of this article are available for purchase or public review at the Iron Range Historical Society research library, and was reviewed by it's Secretary prior to publication: I believe this qualifies as a "Secondary Source" per Wikipedia guidelines. The question I have is this: I have one other interview cited in the Elcor, Minnesota article. It is an interview with a former Elcor resident by someone other than myself, and I am in possession of the manuscript. The problem is the manuscript is not dated so I have no idea when she conducted the interview, and I do not know which city the interview took place (the resident may have been in a nursing home in Eveleth, Virginia, Aurora, etc. at the time of the interview). The manuscript is available to the public as I have had a copy in my possession for some time, but I would have to do some research of my own to remember where it came from (it may have come from the Iron Range Historical Society or the Minnesota Discovery Center). Thoughts? DrGregMN (talk) 12:54, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While it is correct to remove those sources and data that cant be verified, it is within possibility that IF its possible, is there a verifiable source for the data? Morbid curiosity here as that has been an issue with many of the places I document for certain. A good source for me has been local published historians, news paper archives..Just some ideas..Coal town guy (talk) 13:38, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks CTG. Hope you got my message on your talk page. I did leave JFI a message and went to his email which was apparently inappropriate. The previous interview with Micheal Smith was deleted. It was not published, and he is dead. However, the other interview I cited was a result of email correspondence with the general manager of Minorca mine at ArcelorMittal as to how the mine was renamed. JFI's opinion was regardless of the email documentation, this could still be construed as original research. DrGregMN (talk) 14:40, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly, that is correct...HOWEVER, do you happen to know if there was a news paper interview? OR has there been any attempt to have a news paper publish local historical data? Just thinkingCoal town guy (talk) 15:04, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a thought. My old hometown newspaper would occasionally run history articles on their features page. Perhaps you could interest a reporter in interviewing the person you interviewed. The resulting article would be WP:RS. John from Idegon (talk) 15:21, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OR try these Found some data in Minnesota Place Names a Geographical Encyclopedia, also spelled Elcore...and its post office is noted......The Mining Directory of Minnesota also mentions a few names, AND company data. [You can try to look for tokens associated with the mining operation here].....There are also societies dedicated to mining in general for Iron or coal etc etc. These places can have data about a place in documented form...Coal town guy (talk) 15:27, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, gents. I am familiar with the USGS disambiguation of the "Elcore" Post Office; the correct spelling is "Elcor" (kind of like the main street in Elcor was "Manilla" street, named after "Manila" in the Philippines). I have deleted all of the footnoted OR; however, I have elected to leave the Sedgeman interview since it is available in manuscript form. Otherwise, all citations (except web) are from the newspaper archives at Minnesota Historical Society; the Iron Range Historical Society, the Northeast Minnesota Research Center at UMD; the Iron Range Research Center at the Minnesota Discovery Center; the John R. Borchert map library at the University of Minnesota, or the public library. Hopefully, this will pull the article up to Wiki standards.

The article was and is great. The only effort here would be t veracity, I for one am still impressed as hell Coal town guy (talk) 22:44, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

CONGRATS!!!!

		WikiProject Ghost towns Barnstar
		Your work on Elcor, Minnesota deserves this at least

This is beyond impressive. Without hesitation, the editor deserves the ghost town barn star.....I have awarded it, what fantastic work.. From personal experience, it is extremey difficult to locate data on remote locations, much less have them in a form that is wiki friendly, jaw dropping and impressive from a remote town point of view. My user name is User:Coal town guy, my life on wikipedia revolves around remote locations in WV and KY..BUT I MUST say, WOW. I have read your article in detail, when you have time, I would very much like to help it grow, there are of course some wiki things which can be addressed, and I would very much like to volunteer to help as I have great respect for the work this article must have takenCoal town guy (talk) 20:37, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Coal town guy! I have made significant revisions to the page Elcor, Minnesota since putting it out there for peer review. The comments I've received from peer review seem to indicate the article was a point for direct nomination to GA status, and potentially FA status. At one point (3 years ago), you and John from Idegon gave some very helpful suggestions with regard to the article and how to improve it. I am trying to get as much feedback as possible now, and welcome your suggestions (one of the nice things about ghost towns is there is only finite information available. I would love to put this article to rest and start work on expanding Manganese, Minnesota and Withrow, Minnesota).DrGregMN (talk) 02:11, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Editor of the Week

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User:Coal town guy submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

WHY? Because, like myself, this editor has dedicated extraordinary time and effort to articles about remote towns; places that most people see by accident in the rear view mirror on a long country drive. It takes guts, dedication, and the facility to almost absorb endless questioning about the veracity of not only a location, but literally, was it real (?), who lived there (?), etc., etc., etc. These types of efforts take time and resources: making them wiki worthy, is nothing short of amazing. See the work I speak of at Elcor, Minnesota and, of course, further work at Iron Range Historical Society. Ergo, it is with zero hesitation that I nominate DrGregM. As a former Editor of the Week myself, I can appreciate what it means.

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Elcor, Minnesota in the early days

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Has dedicated extra "above-the-norm" time and effort to articles about remote towns and places.

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Thanks again for your efforts! Go Phightins! 12:58, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see you get some recognition. It looks like you have dedicated a lot of time and effort at Wikipedia, and it is obvious that you make a difference. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 22:08, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for improving the encyclopedia. ```Buster Seven Talk 06:12, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, everyone, for the nomination and the kind comments. I'm sure there are other editors out there who are working as diligently and are more deserving than deserving than me.

There are a lot of great editors, but don't underestimate the value of your contributions. Your focus on quantity and quality of articles makes Wikipedia a better place for the reader. It really is worth the recognition. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 15:46, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A great encyclopedia gets made by thousands of people dedicated to improving just one or a few areas each. Just like an army is only as strong as its weakest platoon, strong editing, even if it is only on a few subjects, is what makes Wikipedia great! Thanks, Doc! John from Idegon (talk) 16:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Congrats on a great article! Gandydancer (talk) 02:00, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there and thanks for the great article! I'm guessing that you are perhaps from The Range? My mother's family was from Tower and I went to high school there. I've written a few Minnesota articles--most of the Ely and Duluth articles. I hope to hear from you and hope that you stick around and do more writing. Gandydancer (talk) 02:08, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the barnstar (my second for this article - I'm sure others are more deserving than me). I am from the Range, but not from Elcor, although I have some personal experience with this particular ghost town (and I have been warned by other editors to cite only reliable sources and to avoid any original research in this article). My family is from Aurora, and I also have relatives still living in Biwabik, Virginia and Buhl.

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Elcor, Minnesota

Hello, DrGregMN. You sure put lots of work into the Elcor article. I see that you did the vast majority of work on it. I don't have the time right now to work on the article but I did submit a request for copy editing [1] that is sometimes painful but always helpful. Good luck with the process.Wpwatchdog (talk) 16:10, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Wpwatchdog. I had submitted this article for copy editing by Wukai. He edited it on a couple of different occasions and I have left most of his edits intact since the article definitely reads and flows better, but I did revert and reword some of his edits. You can view these yourself in the history, but I changed back the wording in the introductory paragraph since the copy edit made it sound like Gilbert had annexed Elcor before it had been abandoned and that the citizens of Elcor were actually citizens of Gilbert, which is imprecise. I also added back the sentence regarding the communication system and respect for the different ethnicities, which I feel is important from a standpoint of the cultural assimilation many immigrants experienced, but also as a statement on our current society as a whole (although I can understand why Wukai felt it might be irrelevant). I also went back and retained some of the references which otherwise would have been lost due to the copy edits, although I can also understand why he felt these also might be irrelevant (the one criticism that I received from peer review is that the article may be "oversourced", although when writing about a ghost town, I don't believe one can have too many sources).DrGregMN (talk) 20:29, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Updating Elcor to GA status

Congratulations! The article now meets all the criteria, and I repromoted the article. Codyorb (talk) 15:37, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

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	Great work, Doc! Elcor, Minnesota is now a GA. It was a long road, but you've reached this goal. So what's next? FA for Elcor? Another great effort on a new and soon to be formerly obscure community? Only time will tell, but whatever you choose, I'm certain of one thing. You will do it well. John from Idegon (talk) 03:58, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Precious

Minnesota ghost towns

Thank you thank you for quality articles and plans for Minnesota ghost towns, such as Elcor, Minnesota, Manganese, Minnesota and Withrow, Minnesota "as time permits" based on research, for Iron Range Historical Society, - Greg, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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Thank you, Gerda! DrGregMN (talk) 14:01, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Two years ago, you were recipient no. 1883 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:09, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Gerda! I have just completed the new page Manganese, Minnesota. Please feel free to take a look! DrGregMN (talk) 21:48, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Elcor, Minnesota

My best wishes and congratulations on the Good Article recognition for the article about Elcor, Minnesota. I started the article and User: Catalyst31 added the info box and map to the article. I want to acknowledge with thanks to TheCatalyst31 for help with the article when I started the article. Thank you-RFD (talk) 12:04, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Elcor, Minnesota

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Unfortunately, this is not eligible for DYK: it has not, within the past seven days, been created, been expanded five-fold, or been made a Good Article. Indeed, there have been no recent changes in the article status, and it was made a Featured Article back in December. On the other hand, it will be on the main page within a month in the main "Today's Featured Article" slot, so it will be appearing on the main page soon, for which my congratulations. I hope you will try submitting to DYK in the future, but with a newly created or expanded or listed article. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:17, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Elcor

I translated the introduction, and I'd say about 10/15% of each section so far, but all of it in a docx document on my laptop, hence why the article does still not exist on the Danish Wikipedia. I'm really short on time lately. I actually prefer translating it in bits and pieces while at school or at home, so I'm going to continue doing it that way for a while. Just an update. Kind regards, Doctor Papa Jones • (Click here to collect your prize!) 11:42, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Doctor Papa Jones. I am curious to know how the Danish translation is coming along for this article! Regards, DrGregMN (talk) 14:15, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yo, just got back from vacation; didn't see this. The translation is pretty much complete, but it's still all on my laptop. I'll message you with a link soon. Kind regards, Doctor Papa Jones • (Heeya!) 13:20, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DrGregMN, I apology for my late response to your translation request for Elcor. I can not take this over, I'm sorry, it's especially because of lack of time and because the topic is a bit off my primary interests. I only edit articles where I have sufficient knowledge and interest in the covered topics. I would like to congratulate you for your effort, I truly admire the amount of work you invested in gathering the sources and facts about this abandoned town, which many would not consider a notable enough topic. I'm really glad to see something like this happen on Wikipedia, as I strongly believe that this kind (and actually any kind) of knowledge is valuable to people and hope Wikipedia will once improve the rate of such contributions. Regards, --Ajgorhoe (talk) 13:38, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Peer review of Manganese, Minnesota

I have completed a fairly detailed review of Manganese, Minnesota at Wikipedia:Peer review/Manganese, Minnesota/archive1. Please let me know on my talk page if you have questions or need more information from me. It is clear you've put a lot of time and effort into the article and I hope my review helps to improve it further. - Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 16:04, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I took a second look - while it is much improved, I still found some things to hopefully make it even better. - Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:56, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PS I also made a few typo fixes and tried tweaking the images a bit. Feel free to change my edits. - Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:27, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, I appreciate the edits! What I find interesting about this particular town is despite the fact that it was an incorporated community, there's not a lot of information to work from, so any thing that improves the article is fine by me. Thank you, Ruhrfisch! DrGregMN (talk) 14:05, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would have thought having an unusual name would help in finding information, but the searches I tried also had lots of hits on the element, not just the town. Mn MN ;-) - Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 13:57, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for the barnstar - you are too kind. I will take another look at the article soon (am a bit busy IRL). - Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 22:02, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

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	Your work on ghost towns is incredible. I like reading random articles on Wikipedia and that is how I came across Elcor and Manganese. They are so well-written, and clearly you have put in a lot of time and effort. It has been an absolute pleasure reading them. Thank you for your dedication! — The Most Comfortable Chair 05:00, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! But please give some credit to Jonesey95. He is an amazing copy editor! DrGregMN (talk) 13:04, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you today for Manganese, Minnesota, "about Manganese, Minnesota, one of a handful of small mining communities on the Cuyuna Iron Range of north-central Minnesota, and the only one to be abandoned. Manganese was an incorporated community, platted and quickly settled in what was a new iron rush to Minnesota's Cuyuna Range. Manganese boomed quickly, then suffered a slow demise after World War I, existing just over 48 years before it was completely abandoned. A lot of time and resources went into amassing information about the veracity of the community. Despite the fact that Manganese was an incorporated community, very few photographs are know to exist or survive."! --

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Manganese, Minnesota

You reverted one of my edits at Manganese, Minnesota, but did not leave an edit summary. Could you please explain your edit. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:20, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, Magnolia677! I'm not much for leaving edit summaries; I had one prepared but must not have posted. The image speaks to the veracity of both the post office and bank at Manganese. I have been meaning to revert some of your previous edits to reflect the requests of previous GA and FA reviewers, but have not had time until now (I have been working on another article). Best regards, DrGregMN (talk) 17:31, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February 2023

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, as you did at Talk:Withrow, Minnesota, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Your comments were disrespectful and unacceptable. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:25, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Precious anniversary

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