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Recent edits to Null-subject language

I wanted to write that I disagree with your recent edits to Null-subject language, which 1) removed the content of the previous Literal Translation and renamed the previous Actual Translation to Literal Translation in the examples for the Latin language; and 2) removed the parentheses around the pronouns within the English translation in the examples for the Spanish language.

(1) I believe that your edit goes against the point of the Examples section, which is to illustrate how the null subject appears in these languages. The intermediate step – whatever it may be called (I'm not a linguist) – is necessary for the example to have substantial value. I advocate putting the intermediate step back into the examples. I do think the intermediate step could be called Literal translation, judging by the description of the term in the linked article.

(2) I think an alternative to your edit would be to use square brackets (i.e. []) around the pronoun. This preserves the fact that the pronouns were not used in the original language, while keeping the sentences understandable in English and mirroring the parentheses from the Spanish text. As the linked article indicates, square brackets are commonly used to "enclose explanatory or missing material"; I see the value in using them here.

Please let me know your thoughts! ~David Rolek ^(talk) 06:06, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Latin and Spanish are not null-subject languages, their inclusion in this article is erroneous. Latin and Spanish are overt-pronoun languages. In Spanish, both 'estoy' and 'yo estoy' mean 'i am,' but both 'estan' and 'ustedes estan' mean 'they are.' the subject is contained within the conjugated verb (-oy, -an, etc), so it is not null-subject. using the separate pronoun word is optional, so it can be considered a pro-drop (pronoun dropping) language in which null-pronouns occur. the pronoun can be omitted becuz the subject is evident in the finite tense verb. Donutcity (talk)

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Original research? My -minor- change was deleted (totally fine by me), and the deleater left a long haughty comment, now I get one from you too! Is Jimmy Wales going to message me next? Donutcity (talk)

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definitely not minor

Hello Donutcity. I was reviewing some material and happened upon some of your edits. I noticed that you had marked the edits as "minor" edits, but in fact, they are not. Don't undervalue the importance of your own edits by marking them as minor. Per the policy named WP:MINOR the minor edit checkbox should only be marked if the edit meets certain criteria, such as fixing a citation, copyedit (with no change to the meaning intended) fixing vandalism, etc. Adding or removing even one word can change an edit from a minor edit to one that should not be marked as minor, even if the total impact on the article is "minor" within common usage of the term. Good luck. Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 08:52, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the positive feedback Etamni, i really appreciate it. Donutcity (talk) 00:16, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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2015–16 CONCACAF Champions League

If you read my edit note it says, Everywhere else in the article the full name is used. I have no problem using the short name but it should be the same throughout the whole article. So before you go bringing up an entire nations preference that you know everything about...maybe you should actually edit the whole article not just one instance you happen across. I was simply reversing sloppy editing, had nothing to do with the content of the edit. It looks really stupid if the name of a team is shown multiple ways in one article. Chris1834 Talk 02:38, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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It appears that you are the only person who feels disrupted by this edit, and that your removal of it appears to be driven by personal connection to the article. The edit is unique and interesting information, completely relevant to the subject. You have offered no reasoning or constructive criticism, only your opinion that it is trivial and disruptive. Donutcity (talk) 23:29, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

that

On February 22, you went on a rampage against the word which in List of enclaves and exclaves. You gave the edit summary "grammar". I understand how in some cases you prefer restrictive that to nonrestrictive which. But by also removing "of which" (from "some of which" and the like) you changed a bunch of good sentences into comma splices. —Tamfang (talk) 20:23, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Which is often misused, but thanks for pointing out the comma splices. Donutcity (talk) 01:38, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Please stop piping FC Cincinnati and Nashville SC

When we write about MLS teams where the name of the team is "FC City" or "City SC", we always write out the full name. The rest that you are piping are fine, but please stop piping these two. Jay eyem (talk) 23:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's superfluous to keep the FC/SC when no other country does that. Donutcity (talk) 23:29, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mexican clubs don't keep the FC/CF. Look at Pachuca, Toluca, Monterrey, etc. People figure it out. Donutcity (talk) 23:31, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter what other countries do. When discussing MLS teams where they use that name format, we always write the full name. Please gain consensus before making such a change again. Jay eyem (talk) 23:34, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If I recall correctly, I think the reason this became the consensus is because of WP:BRANDING. It was decided that this is how MLS teams are referred to most commonly in independent reliable sources, while the same is not true for other countries. That is, Arsenal is not usually referred to as "Arsenal F.C." outside Wikipedia, but Toronto FC is usually rendered as such. Feel free to challenge that, but it is the current consensus. Bmf 051 (talk) 00:33, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the background and input. The WP:Branding doesn't explicitly mention team naming conventions, but i get the gist of it: don't assume the reader will know. However, in articles about football clubs playing in club football competitions, readers will deduce that Monterrey, Pachuca, *Cincinnati* and *Nashville* are all football clubs; they won't see the US city names alone and suddenly think the municipality itself has entered the tournament. The insistence on emphasizing the FC/SC on clubs names is unique to US football culture, but it's used inconsistently even in US circles; this article is continental in scope. Donutcity (talk) 14:25, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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