User talk:Donspore

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Giada

If you think it's a notable enough topic for an article, then create it separately at Giada (company) or Giada (brand), whichever is more accurate. Once the article is established then I would have no problem with moving Giada to Giada (given name) and then moving the disambiguation page to the base term. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:39, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for that. I have created the new Giada_(brand) page, and would like to know how to go forward on this? Donspore (talk) 03:42, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Xezbeth, any way for me to have the page up again? Donspore (talk) 05:02, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

June 2019

Hello Donspore. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Donspore. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Donspore|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. GSS (talk|c|em) 14:55, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi User:GSS, Note that, its just that the client is chinese, and they have difficult publishing the article, and has consulted me on how to publish the article, but not paid for me to write/edit the article. The fee was not related to the article, but helping them to communicate with Wiki.Donspore (talk) 07:13, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

As per WP:Paid, please provide links on your Wikipedia user page to all active accounts at websites where you advertise paid Wikipedia-editing services e.g. your Upwork account etc. Thank you. GSS (talk|c|em) 10:22, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

the client is chinese, and they have difficult publishing the article, and has consulted me on how to publish the article, but not paid for me to write/edit the article. If you did not write the copy for the article, who did? Yunshui ^雲_水 09:14, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi User:GSS User:YunshuiGiada has written the article themselves actually. Donspore (talk) 11:45, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

If that is the case, you are committing a copyright violation by presenting their work as your own. When you add content to Wikipedia, it must be content to which you own the copyright; unless you can present proof that the ownership of the copyright for the text was transferred to you prior to its addition to Wikipedia, your edits constitute violation of copyright and cannot be hosted on Wikipedia. Yunshui ^雲_水 11:59, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi User:Yunshui, In that case, so I have to write/edit the article myself? Edits were done, but the original article were from them. Can they then try to post the entry themselves if me doing it is an issue.

Circumventing AFC

If you try to circumvent the Articles for creation process by creating a promotional page directly in mainspace again, you will be blocked from editing. As a paid editor, you are expect to pass your submissions via AFC so that users who are not biased in favour of your clients can review them prior to placing them in the encyclopedia. Your attempts to promote your client by creating the same content at multiple page titles to avoid scrutiny are disruptive, and will not be tolerated going forward. Yunshui ^雲_水 09:11, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi User:Yunshui, I was advised by an admin to create the Giada (brand) page before, and I did as advised. Somehow, now I am considered to be a paid editor, but actually I am not. I updated my upwork page to include wiki editing work, because, I was asked to as well. I am just an associate of Giada, who is assisting them on ecommerce site, and this is a just assistance to help them get the article published. Think it is a confusion, and the fact is that I have informed them its was there last month, and suddenly now its removed, for assuming i am doing this for money, so can you please let me know how to solve this, moving forward?

The solution is simple. Stop editing Wikipedia on behalf of your client. Yunshui ^雲_水 12:05, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi User:Yunshui, This is quite misunderstood. But I got your point.

Donspore as previously requested please provide links on your Wikipedia user page to all active accounts at websites where you advertise paid Wikipedia-editing services e.g. your Upwork account etc. Thank you. GSS (talk|c|em) 06:34, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi User:GSS, I am not a paid editor. Giada does not pay me to edit their article. I work with them on other project work like ecommerce. I am just indirectly linked with them, and I have posted the new article Draft, Draft:Giada_(brand) and i am just a connected contributor. Sorry for the confusion.

Your submission at Articles for creation: Giada (brand) has been accepted

Giada (brand), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Missvain (talk) 00:01, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Curiel (brand)

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A tag has been placed on Curiel (brand) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.curiel.it/aboutUs/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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I have since rewritten most paragraphs. please assist to remove copyright notice. Donspore (talk) 08:24, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Reply

I see that you have a draft of the deleted page, which suggests that you have cut-and-pasted to namespace, that is incorrect, you should Move the draft.

If you have a conflict of interest, you must declare it. If you work directly or indirectly for an organisation, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. If you are paid directly or indirectly by the organisation you are writing about, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at Donspore. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Donspore|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message. Also read the following regarding writing an article:

• you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the organisation or company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, logs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company or organisation claims or interviewing its management. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls

• Much of your text was unsourced, sourced to the company or affiliates, or to sites that were more like fan pages.

• The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:

1. significant coverage in
2. independent,
3. multiple,
4. reliable,
5. secondary sources.

Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability.

• it's all about what the company sells, little about the company organisation itself other than locations. To show notability you need hard verifiable facts such as the number of employees, turnover or profits. Instead we just get spam. What people think about the company or its products isn't a criterion for notability, but that's all you've written

• You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.

• I note that you capitalise every mention of the company, obviously to highlight it, and you give virtually every sentence its own spammy heading, like 'The Fusion of Haute Couture and Art".
• The text itself is just fact-free, often company-source spam, like heritage of femininity of four generations, and renowned for its history... provided the high society a unique style and empowered them with the spirit of “La Dolce Vita”... The simplicity and delicacy of Curiel made it very famous and popular among the upper-class... From her very first collection, her artistic touch and sensitivity can be noticeable... refined embroidery needleworks merged to reach an overall elegance that distinguishes her from the others. Her outfits are appreciated also by celebrities and politicians... The "Intellectual of fashion" has been having a worldwide success since her first show. and so on, just opinions.

• There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
• You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

• I don't know whether you resolved this or not, since I deleted as spam and didn't check copyright.

I see that you didn't have any wikilinks, such as fashion, Milan or La Scala

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I have since rewrite in encyclopedic tone, as well as removed unecessary information, and provided more independent news sources. Donspore (talk) 11:38, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Please see WP:CITEKILL. Any citations that do not support the content on the article can be removed. Jeraxmoira (talk) 11:42, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I have removed some citations as current ones are sufficient. Donspore (talk) 13:38, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Also i have noted that you have added Undisclosed paid tag in the article, once again, I am not paid to edit the article, i am a business solutions director working in firm that provide services to financial entities like banks, and I am not related to the brands. I have in the past worked with them in my job like 6-7years ago. But this is now totally unrelated and edited on my own, because I have interest in the history of the fashion brands. In the past, I did not want to explain much, as it just caused more misunderstanding. Donspore (talk) 13:45, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I have removed the Undisclosed paid tag. Please follow WP:COIEDIT and disclose the same, thank you. Jeraxmoira (talk) 14:16, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

once again i have no conflict of interest with curiel, previously yes with Giada, but curiel not the case. i only write about it because i saw they have a long history. Please.. Donspore (talk) 03:02, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

please remove the coi tag thanks. and read the article if its neutral. Donspore (talk) 15:24, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

If they were your former employers, then you still need to disclose the COI. Jeraxmoira (talk) 17:44, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

once again i said i am in IT, i never worked for curiel. i do not understand why you are assuming this. how can i prove this. Donspore (talk) 17:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

I am not assuming anything here. You have replied I have in the past worked with them in my job like 6-7years ago. Jeraxmoira (talk) 18:05, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

i worked for an IT company as a PM for a company TMO group which did a website for Giada. And not curiel. not curiel. that's 6-7years ago. i have put an Userbox coi on my user page explaining. i again emphasize they are never my employers. Donspore (talk) 18:16, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. By them I thought it was for both the brands. I have removed it from Curiel (brand). FWIW, you only need to mention Giada in the COI tag and not Curiel. Happy editing <3 Jeraxmoira (talk) 18:31, 28 December 2023 (UTC)