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Tea Party protests and the CNN poll

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I see you are interested in editing the Tea Party protests article. We welcome your contributions. Please join us on the talk page. (Go to Tea Party protests and then click-on the "discussion" tab at the top of the page.)

I also see that you've been inserting information about a CNN poll at the bottom of the Composition of the movement section or in the lead section; that is, in the paragraphs before the table of contents. The other editors and I believe that this information belongs more properly in the subsection on Public opinion polls so we've moved your information there. We haven't deleted your material; we've simply moved valuable information to a new location and combined it with other statistics from the same poll.

If you disagree about the movement or anything else we've done, you are welcome to express your opinions on the talk page in the section named CNN Poll. Please do not re-insert your material back in the lead until and unless all the editors, including yourself, have reached another consensus. You are also invited to participate in any other discussions we are having on the talk page.

By the way, I have left in your implicit assertion that the word "White" on the survey results form means "White Americans" as defined by the US Census. Isn't "white' more likely to mean "described self as white" when taking the telephone poll?

Thanks a bunch and good-luck on your wiki-editing, RoyGoldsmith (talk) 05:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your Flint Hill School Modifications

This article has too few citations as it is. There is an implication from listing two date connected events that they are related. In this case you need to provide a citation showing they are related, or leave the non-related data out.

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Ecragg (talk) 23:51, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you can provide a citation directly connecting Flint Hill School's (then known as Flint Hill Academy) founding to the Stanly Plan and Massive Resistance please do not connect the two. Now if you want to include the fact that until it's acquisition by the break away St Stephen's School group, it was a Jock Academy feel free.

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Ecragg (talk) 23:51, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Promotional/unsourced edits

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. TEDickey (talk) 01:09, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add soapboxing, promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. TEDickey (talk) 01:42, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Use a scalpel instead of a machete. If you are concerned about "disruptive editing" or about the article on Chantilly, VA having a neutral point of view, you can take the time to make those specific edits. I included sites to a historical map, a picture of a museum, a picture of a hotel that hosted an event that is of topical, political and historical import, with proper, factual citations and in an objective tone. Simply because you disagree with those things being included, because you have some vested interest in not showing Chantilly, VA as a diverse, interesting and vibrant place is not enough to justify your edits. I included further detail on issues already included in the article, and information generally on what makes Chantilly, VA an interesting place to live. Further, the CDP maps are old -- yet you made no changes to those. So, I suspect your problem has more to do with the fact that my user name refers to civil rights, than any kind of genuine issue with the merits of my edits. So please stop YOUR disruptive editing.

My editing history shows that people disagree with me about historical facts -- that is not the same thing as not presenting a "neutral point of view". Disagreement does not constitute disruption. You may not like the edits, but that is your, personal issue, which reflects a bias that you have -- not a Wikipedia issue.

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My edit on the Chantilly, VA article DOES explain why. It states "Air & Space museum and other relevant photos were kept because they are notable features of the community and NOT advocacy, opinion or PR." If you do not think that is detailed enough, again, that is a value judgment rather than truth--since there was an explanation. If you don't *like* the explanation, that is different. Further details are provided above--you should read them.

Chantilly CDP

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. TEDickey (talk) 12:15, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Regarding the article, please have a look at Template:Cite newspaper. The problem with the current state is that the wording is very strong. Naturally, if that's the case, it can stay in. However, that leads to a very strong need for verifibility. With the current citation, we don't have an accurate date or page number, unless we have that particular library card. If you change the citation, I'm sure there are numerous libraries with that edition. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 02:34, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Digagecivrights (talk) 03:10, 13 February 2018 (UTC)I am incredulous that my wording would be considered "strong". That seems like a subjective consideration. I have no control over The Washington Post's decision to put this article behind a wall. However, the citation is valid. I am looking at the article on my desktop. I cannot attach it here because I cannot make it available to the commons. So not only did I properly cite the article in question, I have complied with Wikipedia's rules regarding the posting of copyrighted material.[reply]

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You're a fool for having let this get this far; if you don't get blocked after reverting a half a dozen times, it's certainly not because of you. Drmies (talk) 02:58, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Digagecivrights (talk) 03:07, 13 February 2018 (UTC)Thanks for the insight. I wrote facts with citations. I'm not sure what there is to "war" about when it comes to facts that are properly cited but for a copyright restriction over which I have no control.[reply]

The Citations are valid

(@Bellezzasolo:),

All of the citations are valid. The only non-neutral tone is the tone of those who wish to suppress these historical facts from being documented.

The Washington Post article is protected by copyright. Unfortunately, I do not decide for the Washington Post what they do and do not decide to protect by copyright. The relevant inquiry is whether the article is valid--and it is. The fact that it is behind a wall at ProQuest and the Fairfax County Public Library should not preclude an important historical fact from being documented.

The assertion that my "tone" is somehow strong is purely subjective. I have reported nothing but historical facts.

Talking about race is not a Wikipedia violation

Those who are challenging my edits are basing their objection solely on the fact that I am discussing race in a way that challenges a particular ideology that says their comfort is more important than reporting facts. Frankly, I do not care about the fact that they are uncomfortable with this history. It is history. This is not the State of Texas preventing schoolchildren from learning about slavery by deleting all "offensive" references to slavery in text books. This is Wikipedia. I am not concerned about hurting people's feeling by reporting facts. That is not my role.

No, I submit that there are other concerns with your edits that have nothing to do with race, such as verifiability, which is always a potential concern in every article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:42, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Washington Post reference

Hello Digagecivrights,

Here is how the reference now reads:

"Fairfax Approves Tuition Grants For 60 to Attend Private Schools". The Washington Post, Times Herald. 1959-09-20.

I am a paid subscriber to the Washington Post and I cannot find this article when I search their database. I am a bit confused about this reference because it seems to incorporate the names of two newspapers. Can you clarify what "Times Herald" means here? Are there two articles in two newspapers? Can you supply a few sentences of direct quotation from the article(s) that supports the content you have added? Please email me a copy of the article(s) if possible. I have email activated, which you can reach by using the menu on the left side of my user page. If racial discrimination was a significant factor in the creation of this school, then that fact belongs in the article. But, let's do it right. Thank you for whatever help you can provide. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:40, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Cullen328, good point--I was wondering about that, but all-too briefly. I think I just thought it was an AP story that was run in various papers. Drmies (talk) 16:04, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Cullen328 and Drmies: Ahead of you on this, see our Washington Times-Herald article; the article was published during the period when the Post had the Times-Herald name also on its masthead after acquiring the rival paper. I've modified the citation since this is confusing for modern readers, but we have a redirect at Washington Post Times Herald. Digagecivrights: since this article is not available online, as Cullen, with a subscription, just confirmed, could you please give us one or two pieces of further information to help out readers or editors who look for it on microfilm? Is there an author listed, and what page or pages is it on in the newspaper? If you printed a copy, I reckon you may have that information on it. Thanks for finding the source. I've done some editing to the article. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:18, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Our excellent article Stanley plan describes the vile and foul and dedicated efforts of the people who ran Virginia in the late 1950's to continue school segregation, against the rulings if the Supreme Court. What we need is a good source that connects the founding of this school with that racist venture. If that connection can be made, then I believe that it should stay in the article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:03, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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