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Neemuch

Please don't copy and paste material from other websites. Copyright violations can cause legal problems for Wikipedia. Rick K 06:52, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

I have to agree, though the Neemuch article could be rewritten rather easily, as Ive started to do. Please rewrite it in your own words to the best of your ability, and look to other articles for examples for how to write and organize such articles. Welcome again, and thanks for showing interest in documenting this area of knowledge. -SV|t 06:55, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Indian Railways

The Indian Railways is the current INCOTW and your vote helped select it. Let's all now make it up to featured status. =Nichalp (Talk)= 19:40, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

Analysis

I have tried to address your valid concerns about Eurocentrism on the mathematical analysis page by adding a paragraph about the origins of analysis before Newton/Leibniz, including the work of Madhava. Obviously, feel free to change what I have written if you think it does not do the job. The POV tag is a very blunt instrument for resolving this type of problem - in my opinion, it is best reserved for articles that are so hopelessly POV that they cannot be rescued. Gandalf61 15:50, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

Islamic Golden Age

I reverted your edit on the Islamic Golden Age. Adding a Totallydisputed tag without an explanation is somewhat controversial. If you wish to readd the tag please provide your rationale on the talk page. Thanks. freestylefrappe 02:17, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

"LeT"

You said, "LeT has claimed responsibility of some of these terrorist acts. Why still say "India accuses......." for other incidents?"

Because as you said "some" of these acts. India has accused them for several things, infact if it were possible, it would probably blame the group for a lot of its problems. Regardless, there need to be sources for definite acts by the group. Btw, there is also a source needed for the "pamphlet" material that you added otherwise those sentences will be removed. I will leave the material as it is for now, but unless a source is provided, it is objectionable. Just thought I should point this out. Thanks. --Anonymous editor 02:20, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

A neutral source in this case would be one that is not inclined towards an Indian political opinion and one that is not inclined towards LeT ideologies. A fairly neutral source shouldn't be hard to find if this group is as well-known for its "acts" as you have implied it is. Thanks.--Anonymous editor 03:37, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

History of India

Well, you can always count on me ;-]. I have a few changes to suggest:

The article needs to have an introduction.
Mauryan Dynasty was the most signicant dynasty in India. That section needs to be expanded.
The article does not mention much anything about the Marathas, first war of independence in 1857 and all the famous people who fought during the war including Tipu Sultan, Rana Pratap, Bhadue Shah Zafar and Rani Luxmi Bai.
We can mention something regarding the role played by Indian soldiers during the 2 World Wars.
How about something on the Aryan invasion and the changes they bought.
The article only mentions about Indian dynasties and rulers but theres nothing on India philosphers, artists and other intellectuals like aryabhatta and acharya shrishti to name a few.
Mention the trade which India had with other countries and also write on their architecture, literature, ancient laguages (like Prakrit) and culture.
More can be written on the kings that ruled before Maurayans including King Porus (famous for his battle w/ Alexander) and King Vikramaditya.
The Gupta Dynasty was an important one. Mention the achievements made during the so-called Golden Era and also include what Huang Tsang had to say about India.
Indians had a lot of interaction with the Greeks. The school of Gandhara is another important topic which needs to be mentioned.
Mention more on the national and freedom movements headed by Gandhi; reform movements, especially those to uplift women (sati) and backword classes (untouchables) and the Partition of India.

I think that the article can be made a lot better. I can refer to my 10th grade textbooks, we had an entire chapter on Indian History. Thats why I know so much about it. Thanks --IncMan June 28, 2005 05:35 (UTC)

Well, I am having holidays and presently, staying with my parents. They have kept all my high school books intact. So I can always refer to them if required. I think we should focus more on the literary content and less on the pictures. I will contribute to the article during my free time. Thanks --IncMan June 28, 2005 06:05 (UTC)

I think this collaboration of the week can be extended for two weeks. I too will contribute in whatever way I can. -- Sundar (talk · contribs) June 29, 2005 03:38 (UTC)

Islamophobia

That's OK, Deeptrivia: it's big of you to be the first to pop along to my talk page and defuse the dispute :) I suggest we "reset" the discussion and attempt to work together to make the page satisfactory to both parties.

Your point is quite valid, the Google test placed in the context of the other searches does reduce its validity (it is just the method its of delivery that causes one to pause). I propose we get as many references together as possible first and then attempt to see what we can do with the article. Axon 30 June 2005 09:24 (UTC)

VANDALISM

Deeptrivia, this text asserted that the Sarasvati river was east of the Indus:

The Indus Valley Civilization is also sometimes referred to as the Harappan Civilization of the Indus Valley, in reference to its first excavated city of Harappa, or the Indus Sarasvati Civilization, in reference to the Sarasvati river which supposedly dried up at the latest in 1900 BC. The largest concentration of Indus Valley sites appears to be east of the Indus, at and near the region where once the ancient Sarasvati River flowed.

I changed it into:

The Indus Valley Civilization is also sometimes referred to as the Harappan Civilization of the Indus Valley, in reference to its first excavated city of Harappa. A minority position wants to rename it the Indus Sarasvati Civilization, based on the hypothesis of a connection with the Sarasvati river which supposedly dried up at the latest in 1900 BC.

This you call VANDALISM by saying:

rv Vandalism 1. sometimes ref .to as, nobody wants it renamed 2. "supposedly" emphasizes uncertainty (3) undisputed conc. along sup. Sarasvati (see map in article) Discuss your prb on discussion page)

Now, have you actually read this article Vedic Sarasvati River? It says:

The river has been identified with various present-day or historical rivers, particularly the Ghaggar-Hakra river in India and Pakistan; this course continues into the Raini Nala riverbed. Other suggestions include the Helmand River in Afghanistan, which historically bore the name Harahvaiti, which is the Avestan form for "Sarasvati". However, this Afghan river flows into a small lake in the Iranian plateau, which does not match the Rig Vedic description of a "sea going" river. There is also a river in Iran which has been given this name. Sometimes it also means the heavenly 'river' - i.e. the milky way - and it is also personified as a goddess. The goddess Sarasvati was originally a personification of this river, and later developed an identity and meaning independently from the river. There is also a present-day Saraswati River in India which appears to be one of the branches of the ancient river.

You cannot assert things and accuse people of vandalism when they tell that your assertions are disputed.

If you want to get along with people on Wikipedia, you should read assume good faith and NPOV. They are guidelines for interacting with people on Wikipedia. Thank you very much.--Wiglaf 30 June 2005 21:52 (UTC)

Headings of the India history page

I've commented on Talk:History of India. =Nichalp «Talk»= July 2, 2005 09:19 (UTC)

History of India

The History of India is this week's INCOTW. Thank you for voting and showing your commitment to make this the latest India FA. =Nichalp «Talk»= July 3, 2005 09:09 (UTC)

Bangla script?

Did you want to leave a message in my talk page? There was no text under the heading ... --Ragib 4 July 2005 23:45 (UTC)

Well, did you try looking thru IE? It seems fine with that. The reason is that you need to enable Eastern language support in Windows XP, to be able to see it from Firefox. See Control Panel->regional and language options->Languages->Supplemental language support. You need to check Install files for complex language support. You also need to have windows XP Service pack2 installed. IE does that natively, so the bangla script in unicode shows up fine in IE. In Linux, the script should show up in any firefox version with Pango rendering compiled in. Thanks. --Ragib 4 July 2005 23:51 (UTC)

History of India

India's cultural history is vast. Think there should be a separate article on it. What do you say? --IncMan 03:19, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

I couldn't work on Saturday on History of India. Will try to find some time to work on it soon. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 05:29, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism

I am not an administrator. Adam 09:31, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Elastica

Hi Deeptrivia. I noticed you'd turned Elastica into a disambiguation page, with Elastica (band) and Elastica (theory) as the two dab links. However, as Elastica (theory) is a redlink, it seems kind of pointless. Were you intending to create an Elastica (theory) page? Proto t c 15:28, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Images

Hi, I have put {{no source}} on Image:Swasti.jpg since you have not provided a source. If you can provide one please do so so we know that the image is free. Also, many of your other images (mostly logo) are likely fair use in some sense (although maybe not on your userpage) but you need to add tags such as Template:Logo or Template:Fairusein to them. Thanks. gren グレン 02:30, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Eventually after 7 days it can be deleted... no idea when anyone will delete it. I encourage you to find another copy of the image that's under a free license (it's a geometric shape so it shouldn't be too hard to find). Just the new policy is trying to get rid of the money images that are probably copyright violations. Would you also add the proper tags to your school affiliations? They are probably all "logos" so you could use Template:Logo... you might want to research it more (since you uploaded it, you're supposed to be the one to assert its copyright tag). Thanks gren グレン 02:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous editor Rfa

Hi, I'm wondering about how I should vote on this. I notice you said "Had some really awful time with this guy while editing Lashkar-e-toiba and Islamophobia." - if you could give me any background or references on what the problems were, that'd be really helpful. Regards, Dlyons493 Talk 06:50, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Thanks for taking the time to reply Dlyons493 Talk 01:09, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Translation help

Hi Deeptrivia, if you have time could you help translate the main page of Yellowikis into Hindi? It's about 320 words. I'd be pleased to send you a limited edition t-shirt if you can help us. Thanks --Payo 23:02, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy/geographic divisions

Deeptrivia, your comments at [Epistemology]] set me to thinking again about the systematic bias in the philosophy articles. I've started to address this issue at [Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy/geographic divisions]], and would greatly appreciate your input into the discussion. Banno 21:38, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to join Wikiprojects:Philosophy

I notice that you've edited a few philosophy articles. Have you considered joining the Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy? It is an effort to coordinate the work of Wikipedians who are knowledgeable about philosophy in an effort to improve the general quality and range of Wikipedia articles on philosophical topics. We could use some non-Western input! Banno 21:41, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

== History of Rupee ==

d is the old abbreviation for penny. Nik42 08:27, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation

Thanks! I will see what I can do on those pages (though I don't know much about philosophy). I didn't have enough material for the Kerala school which is why I didn't make it a separate article myself. I wanted to see how far I could go on Madhava's page and then split it out when it was too much.. Also another reason was that I think the phrase Kerala school is used for want of a better name - it probably did not have a name but called Madhava's school or some such name back in the day. --Pranathi 00:00, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Deeptrivia, I've made a few changes in Malwa. I didn't take a broad look but focuused on correcting/changing sentences. Will try and look again from a broader perspective. I have included some suggestions as well - you can spot them by comparing my version in history. --Pranathi 08:35, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Barnstar

Hey, thanks a lot for the Barnstar. --Ragib 03:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Hi Deeptrivia, thanks for the barnstar! Though I wont be producing any FAs for a while, I still will keep an eye on potential articles. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:45, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Vegetarianism

Hi deeptrivia, You recently put in edit in the article about the main reason for the practice among Hindus. I think it may be one of the reasons (to be concluded from the logic) but not the main reason. In any case, the Hinduism section under the religious motivations heading covers the reasons - maybe it can go there. The first parah in the history section also covers reasons in a brief sentence. Ideally I think these sections should be short and followed up in detail later. --Pranathi 01:43, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome notices

You should probably post these to users' talk pages, not their user pages. -- Curps 03:44, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Malwa

Hi. Good edits to Malwa; keep them coming. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 06:41, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've reviewed the article and posted them on the Malwa talk page. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:04, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Use the style that we use for cities/states. The coloured heading is optional but if you have to use it, pick a new colour that goes with the grey. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:12, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a ton !!! ......

...for the barnstar of National merit. Only the other day, I was wondering how many active non-admin Indian wikipedians are around and I could count only you and tintin1107 apart from myself. I have been thinking of working on some Indian articles that can be improved fast to FA status. We'd need a free image and a book reference apart from hardwork to ensure that articles are easily passed to the FA status. I shd be having more free time on my hands after a couple of months. We can then work on some articles in bringing them to FA status. Thanks once again, --Gurubrahma 09:28, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]