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I was truly shocked to see that you were the author of that page. May I ask what the purpose was? If you are getting discouraged with the project, or anything like that, I'd be very happy to discuss it with you, either here or privately. Sincerely, decltype (talk) 15:17, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Just fun. Just pure fun. Just trying to loosen things up a bit around here. Is that a WikiCrime? Sometimes I think that editors take things way too seriously,... Dr. Cash (talk) 15:50, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, the reason for my reaction was that since you are a long-term editor in good standing, who do not have a history of this kind of thing (as far as I know), I was just worried that there was something more serious going on. I hope you did not take offense. Regards, decltype (talk) 15:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

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Chauncey Leopardi

  • Thanks for your assessment of the above article (in reference to my nomination for its speedy deletion). I'll respect your judgement, but I would like to see someone do a proper job of the article, rather than leaving it in its decrepit state. With this in mind, I might take it upon myself to improve and expand the article at a later time. bwmcmaste (talk) 19:17, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
As would I, but tagging for speedy deletion is not the solution. CSD A7 is for articles which does not at all indicate why their subject is important or significant. Leopardi has quite a few credits to his name, which is a clear indication of significance. Regards, decltype (talk) 21:47, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I should probably emphasize more strongly that I emphatize with your sentiment that the article should be improved, and I wish I had the necessary time, resources, and of course, inclination to do so every time I came across an article of poor quality. decltype (talk) 22:52, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Nicolai Cleve Broch

Here's a good picture on Flickr. If you ask nicely, the owner might release the rights in time for the DYK. Lampman (talk) 22:10, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip! I did send a standard request for permission. I always ask nicely, and so far I've had a reasonably high success rate on my requests. Thanks again. decltype (talk) 22:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Nicolai Cleve Broch

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E-mail

You should feel free to use whatever you like. Cheers, Joe (talk) 18:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:

Done. Thanks for the heads up. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 04:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Replied over there. decltype (talk) 04:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Nup, no worries. :) -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 04:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

You could've come down harder on me for using rollback on the Norwegian language edit I made. I am always trying to be careful, but I do make mistakes. I just wanted you to know that I don't use rollback for content issues. Regards Tiderolls 16:29, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

And I've no reason to doubt that. Like I said, it's an understandable mistake considering the circumstances. Keep up the good work. decltype (talk) 17:20, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

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Copy/paste moves

Hi decltype. Sorry to bother you again, but could you fix the copy/paste moves of Parcel of Rogues (album) and A Parcel of Rogues (album). They're listed at WP:SCV. Thanks, Theleftorium 16:21, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing them! :) Theleftorium 16:36, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Ahh..I think there's one more..(S)he is making a mess :) decltype (talk) 16:37, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick and effective fix of my ham-handed content move. I had actually caught on via CSB's tagging of the pages and listed them at Wikipedia:Cut_and_paste_move_repair_holding_pen, but you seem to have sorted them out in record time. Sorry that my learning curve caused you this labor! Shorn again (talk) 16:57, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

It's not labor, it's a hobby. Or at least it's supposed to be...:) Either way, it's not a problem. The fact that you found your way to WP:REPAIR so fast, indicates that you're a quick learner :) Regards, decltype (talk) 17:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

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Decltype

Can someone say COI? ;) --Javért  |  Talk 06:35, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Haha, yes. Been wanting to write this for a long time :) decltype (talk) 12:14, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Anglo-Italian Cup

Regarding this edit [1], instead of removing the Stub rating why not just reassess it according to WP:ASSESS? It probably was a stub but the assessment hasn't been reviewed for a while. --Jameboy (talk) 17:28, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I am totally unfamiliar with WP:FOOTBALL so I didn't know if they had special assessment criteria, like e.g WP:ALBUMS. So to be sure I simply removed the old rating so it would be valid for DYK. Regards, decltype (talk) 17:30, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Decltype

Updated DYK query On September 9, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Decltype, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

≈ Chamal talk ¤ 17:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Decltype written by Decltype. Obvious COI and self promotion But seriously, good idea and nice work! ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 02:47, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. In the future, I shall recuse myself from editing the article, and only suggest changes on the talk page :) decltype (talk) 05:49, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

{{talkback|SimonTrew|Wp:PNT}} I replied to your welll justified (and half expected) question, on WP:PNT.

Best wishes keep it up your good work SimonTrew (talk) 15:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC) SimonTrew (talk) 15:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Noted, thanks. decltype (talk) 15:22, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I Love America

Hi, thanks for the note: I actually declined the speedy deletion myself if you look at the history, I didn't tag it for speedy deletion, that was User:Sander Säde. The reason I reverted the decline is that while the article appeared on the face of it to be notable due to the number of blue links, the comment on the db tagging implied it was part of a "walled garden" of articles. My intention was to put it back in the pool for another admin (such as yourself) to have a look at as I didn't have time to follow through on it. As it is, I certainly concur with your reasons for declining and would have done the same myself. --Canley (talk) 01:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Replying over there. decltype (talk) 01:42, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Re:Swedish question

"Ett ögonblick"? :) Theleftorium 06:17, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah. "Låt mig tala till punkt"? Theleftorium 06:43, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Help

{{helpme}} Please leave me a message. I am testing the css for the "New message" notification. Thanks, decltype (talk) 08:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Certainly not, and kindly desist from soliciting help for such frivolous reasons in future.  Skomorokh  09:11, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry you considered my request for assistance frivolous. To the best of my knowledge there is no way to trigger the notification without the assistance of someone, and the category does not exactly seem to be backlogged, but your objection is noted. Regards, decltype (talk) 09:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
I kid, sir!  Skomorokh  09:18, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Ahh... I totally missed that :) decltype (talk) 09:25, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Alexander Stepanov

You know what, you're right. I'll fix it. Geregen2 (talk) 14:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, you've already fixed it. Thanks! Geregen2 (talk) 14:15, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
No, I only changed the redirect. I wanted to hear your opinion before I performed the actual move (since it requires the article to be deleted), in case there was a dispute. Regards, decltype (talk) 14:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with you that after all it should have been kept as the primary page. Sorry about the confusion. Geregen2 (talk) 14:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Not a problem. I personally find all the rules and conventions surrounding DAB pages confusing :) decltype (talk) 14:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Message

let me know how Ms.Ryden can contact you concerning the removal of her name from Joshua_French_and_Tjostolv_Moland article. she clearly doesnt want to be quoted in wikipedia neither she wanted in that article.Im wondering why stating her name is so relevant for this at all and why is the author so persistent in reverting it back.she just doesnt want her name to appear here.post link to article but dot place her name.some people dont like to have their name on public display. thank you

I have posted the contact e-mail on your talk page, here. If Rydén wants to e-mail me, she can write to decltype@live.com, in Swedish or English, whichever she prefers. decltype (talk) 19:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

thanx.she will in swedish :-)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donkeytail1 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Auto C++

Decltype, I was on it, this mission of writing Auto C++, and I thought I'd start by reading 'your' article. I got to the second sentence. Actually, I got the second sentence, but not the first. This may take a bit longer than I imagined. On Tedder's talkpage I suggested you don't hold your breath; let me add to it that you shouldn't 'hold' other biological functions either. Sorry, Drmies (talk) 01:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, no worries. One of these days, inspiration will strike me, and I'll grind something out in a couple of hours. Thanks for having a look, though. It is a bit worrying that the lede is so confusing — and I can see that it is. It's supposed to be understandable by a twelve-year-old, after all. I'll have to think about how to accomplish that :) Regards, decltype (talk) 05:36, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
You know what, that makes me feel a LOT better! No, honestly, the lede is probably not confusing to someone who knows the terms--but I'd have to jump around from one word to another to even understand the terminology. I still think an alternate alternate name would be the best solution. See you around, Drmies (talk) 15:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Hehe, thanks for the tip. Drive safe, now. decltype (talk) 05:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: WT:RFA

Hey, I've noticed that myself actually (hope it didn't look like I was advertising on WT:RFA, I'm always stalking that page and happened to recognise Javert :D). I have given some thought to it, and since my last run I've been trying to improve in the areas that the opposes said I should (to the extent that I now agree with them). If you'd be willing to give it, I'd be happy to hear your opinion on my suitability. Otherwise, the answer to your question is essentially "yes, I'm still game" :D. Cheers - Kingpin13 (talk) 18:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Don't like the back-and-forth stuff, so I'll reply here:
For sure, I think you have improved vastly. First of all, I'm sure your great bot work has been noted by many project members. I have only briefly sampled your CSD work. I would recommend that you not mention "notability" or "nn" at all in your A7 summaries, since only a credible indication of importance or significance is required. You clearly seem to understand the difference, and I realize it's a bit more to type, but I still think it's an important distinction. I agree with almost all the taggings / altered tags / prods I encountered. Finally, I see that you have collaborated on some DYK's, to alleviate your lack of article work. I'm very happy with what you did to Jon Willis. Lastly, I have on occasion noticed your useful input at the RFP pages. I believe that covers my own concerns from the last RfA, and this is the stuff I look for in a candidate (apart from conduct, which trumps all). Others may still not be satisfied. I am sure the large number of auto edits could garner a few opposers, but I would unconditionally support at this time, unless some very bad diffs were presented :) Sincerely, decltype (talk) 19:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the review :). Aye, "notability" is what I'm used to typing, old habits I guess :). I will try and substitute it for importance/significance from now on. I think I've got the bad diffs hidden between hundreds of good edits, so nobody should find them . You'll probably see me at RfA sometime in the foreseeable future (perhaps after one or two more DYKs). Best - Kingpin13 (talk) 19:39, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome. In fact, if you want me as a nominator, feel free to let me know. Regards, decltype (talk) 21:30, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Will do, I'd be more than pleased with that :D. Thanks - Kingpin13 (talk) 21:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I trust decltype's judgement and also good form in welcoming a fellow wikipedian [2] even though we are both de-0! – B.hotep •talk• 22:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I had German in school for five years. It taught me enough to get by, that is, nothing :) And I was considered one of the best in my class... decltype (talk) 22:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

re:Notification

And again with the back-and-forth conversations... decltype (talk) 21:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi decltype. I'm flattered to be considered, I am however not interested in adminship. I strongly suspect it would take up far too much time, time I'll rather use to make contributions. So if you could just cross my name off that list that would great. Thanks, though. Manxruler (talk) 20:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Will do. Cheers. Manxruler (talk) 20:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, re your notice, yes I'd like to be considered. I've been around for 4 years now and am starting to find my way around, although I realise I've still got a hell of a lot to learn. Anyway, WP:MILLS needs an admin amongst its membership. <g>. Put me forward and we'll see what happens. Mjroots (talk) 20:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Not all that familiar, but I'll read up on WP:ADMIN. Mjroots (talk) 20:46, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Yo decltype, it is my turn to not know if you are joking. I'm thinking of assembling a few more lists at WT:RFA, any objections?  Skomorokh  19:25, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

No objections, but I may not be volunteering for doing the notifications. From where will you be taking the candidates this time? decltype (talk) 19:39, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
No worries, I'll notify. The unsuccessful RfA candidates didn't turn out so well, for reasons that in retrospect seem obvious. I'll try to focus on content areas, GAN probably. Thanks for the help and feedback,  Skomorokh  20:29, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Happy to help! decltype (talk) 22:14, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for putting the article back, it is a good article and there is no excuse for deleting it. 74.249.149.228 (talk) 22:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome, but it may still end up being deleted after a deletion discussion. Regards, decltype (talk) 22:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

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Rfa

I haven't gotten any answer from Bigtimepeace so I thought I would pose the question I asked him to you. Do you think I am ready and if not, where can I improve? I have been reading up on most of the administrative rules and such and feel like I have a pretty good hold on them. In any case, thanks for any input you can provide!

Regards, Gaelen S.Talk • Contribs 06:58, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

If you were to stand for RfA again today you would probably face much of the same opposition you did on your first. Having followed RfA closely the last months, I can safely say that the community is very reluctant to promote anyone who doesn't have at least 4-6 months of experience, even in the presence of excellent conversance with policy, demonstrated both through the candidate's contributions, and their answers to questions. However, different people look for different things in a potential candidate. You seem to be primarily the vandalism-fighter type. As such, you could also expect to be opposed based on a high number of automated edits (Huggle) and lack of content contributions (article writing). Others want an admin candidate to have participated in various areas of the Wikipedia namespace, such as XfD, the noticeboards, and similar.
My advice for now would be to not worry too much about adminship, and just do the things you want to do. Of course, if you are interested in expanding into the areas I mentioned, by all means do so. And most important of all: Always be polite, treat others with respect and be ready to admit your mistakes. If you have further questions, do not hesitate to ask. decltype (talk) 07:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
I should probably also point out that some administrators offer "admin coaching", with the specific goal of the coachee standing for RfA at one point in the future (and hopefully passing). Regards, decltype (talk) 07:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

RefDesk

Haha, sorry, Jack was complaining about the low standards of English on the Language desk, and that post on the Entertainment desk was a perfect example. Adam Bishop (talk) 15:25, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

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Thank you!

Thank you for the kind words in your latest reply to my RfA section - I will most definitely keep in contact, and come forward with any questions, problems, or queries, that I may have in the future. For now though, I am going to rest. Its past 12 noon here in the UK, I've not had a wink of sleep, as I've been up monitoring the comments and answering questions on my RfA, and plus having swine flu hasn't helped matters either. This poor little soul is ready for his mattress. I have added your name, to my list of Wiki-friends, I hope you don't mind. I use that list as an easy point of reference, whenever I need to contact someone I can trust. Very sleepy regards, Gareth aka Pr3st0n (talk) 11:21, 23 September 2009 (UTC)zzzzzzzzzzz lol.

I don't mind at all, in fact, I very much appreciate it. You shouldn't take this so seriously. An RfA is certainly not something to lose sleep over! Regards, decltype (talk) 11:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

COI

Hi Decltype, I had a favor to ask. Since there is a concern that I may have a WP:COI on my talk page, I've decided to remove my admin. hat altogether. I was wondering if you'd be willing to monitor the situation, and keep an eye on the "Train wreck" thread. Nope, the irony is not lost on me here .... lol. If you'd be willing, you could just put it on my wiki-tab - I'll pay up somewhere down the road .. honest! ;). Thanks. ;-) — Ched :  ?  13:20, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words, you give me too much credit. Sure I can. The situation seems to have resolved itself amiably, though. I wouldn't call it exactly a COI, but I suppose you may be considered not to be uninvolved when it comes to Bugs. Since I am a perpetually uninvolved administrator, that shouldn't be a problem, and I don't think I've ever been accused of having loco motives, either :) Regards, decltype (talk) 13:52, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

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I hereby award you this barnstar for making Wikipedia a better place by showing kindness to other editors, including myself. Thank you! :) Theleftorium 22:23, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Henrik. I'm very happy to hear that. Sincerely, decltype (talk) 22:27, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
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Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#DYK reviewers

Hi Decltype; belated thanks for the notification of the above. I will prepare some comments giving my views on possible candidacy and add them to that section, hopefully before it gets archived! Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 12:49, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

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Rollback?

Hi, I noticed your name in the category for admins who are willing to grant rollback requests. Granted, I'm a relatively new user but undo/Twinkle don't seem to be "cutting it". I don't do a lot of vandalism fighting, but I believe what I have done shows that I understand what vandalism is and I always leave a warning on the vandals talk page. It is getting frustrating to always get beat by people who use rollback. I would appreciate the right, but will leave it to your discretion. Thanks, –Katerenka (talk • contribs) 02:49, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I don't have a problem with that. Thanks for helping. Regards, decltype (talk) 06:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, decltype, I appreciate the display of good faith extended to me. Warmly, –Katerenka (talk • contribs) 06:58, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Greetings from Spain.

Hi, decltype.

Thanks for your assistance on my article. I am working on improving it in the following days. There are some more possibilities of the blp template that I want to look at and more references I want to polish. I do have a question, though, concerning the references. I saw in other articles that people use regular links for references. However you cleaned up mine by using anchors and the reflist tag. Is that the way it should be? For me it´s perfectly OK and it does indeed make sense. I am just wondering about how to comply to the guidelines.

The other thing is although my account is older than 4 days and I have done more than 10 contributions, I still can´t upload files. Not sure if those 4 days start actually counting since creation or since first contribution. In case of the later then I still have like 1 or 2 days to go. In any case, the picture for the article is ready and it´s just a matter of time before I can upload it and link it.

Thanks for your help.

Jean

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Responding on your talk. decltype (talk) 06:51, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for sorting out my first wikipedia page on the film Under the Skin. Much obliged!

Superbeecheese —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superbeecheese (talk • contribs) 07:09, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

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Request to userfy and email copy of deleted page

Dear Decltype, The article I created named TRASSET_Services_Group has been deleted this morning. Please userfy my page and email me a copy of the same. If you don't have time for both things, please userfy the page and post a note in my talk page. I need to Wikify my page and resubmit it. Thank you, Regards, Deepu Mohan.P (talk) 11:28, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I have userfied the page to User:Deepumohan.p/TRASSET Services Group. Make sure you address the concerns raised before moving it back to main space. Regards, decltype (talk) 11:34, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
You do not seem to have e-mail enabled on your account, and I was not able to locate your address, so I can't email it to you, but it is easily available to you from the link above. Regards, decltype (talk) 11:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the help :). Its okay about the email. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepumohan.p (talk • contribs) 11:56, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome. Let me know if you need further assistance. Regards, decltype (talk) 11:58, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
I've one doubt Decltype, you had commented the image in infobox of TRASSET Services Group, was that a mandatory step while userfying? I have uncommented the image, to work on the article and have to show to my seniors. Please notify if there is some problem in doing so. Deepu Mohan.P (talk) 11:22, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

<- In a way, yes. We do not normally allow copyrighted images, such as company logos, in userspace. This is to avoid copyright infringements. It is probably okay for a temporary article draft, but it should definitely not be there permanently. I suggest that you try to make the article acceptable to be moved into main space as soon as possible, so that the problem disappears. Finally, I see that you mention showing the article to "your seniors". I should probably point you to our conflict of interest guideline, if it is the case that you are affiliated with the company. It is important that the article is neutrally written and not promotional / advertising. Regards, decltype (talk) 11:41, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Controversial edits in Kjell Aartun

Hello, as you can see from this difference there has been made a series of edits changing the neutrality of the article, towards a noncontroversial celebration style, in the article about mr Kjell Aartun today. The edits now actually contradict the references. This edits are all made by one new user, Bjørg Anne Sundfør. Name similarities (see here)indicate that she might be a relative of Aartun.

Similar changes has been pushed to the norwegian version of the article today, and has been rolled back by an experienced admin, as you can see here.

I urge you to roll back ms Sundførs edits, survey and if necessary lock the article. Bw admin at no:wp --Orland (talk) 18:58, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me. I see that the changes have been reverted by another user, User:Finnrind (another no.admin?). I am aware that Aartun is somewhat controversial, and clearly there is a potential COI here. The edits to Susanne Sundfør were good, but I'll watchlist Aartun and we'll see if further action becomes necessary. mvh decltype (talk) 19:16, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Re-assessment of my assessment

Hi, since I don't want to get into an assessment war ;-), I was just wondering why you felt the assessment of the SFINAE be at a start class. My own feeling is that articles in an encyclopedia, including Wikipedia, need not be huge overwritten descriptions with a hundred references, especially if the topic is a relatively low-importance one. Most good encyclopedia articles are brief and to the point with the exact number of valid references available and necessary. I think the article meets a considerably higher standard of quality even though it's small in size. Do you think there is more that the author could elaborate on the subject? If not, I'd like to give it a more proper assessment. Thanks! Daydreamer302000 (talk) 08:15, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. I just noticed that you had assessed it for WP:C++ (which does not assess quality currently, and I don't think it should) as "Start", so I moved your assessment to WP:Computing. It is definitely true that a short article can be of high quality, as long as it covers all the major points of the subject adequately. A Start-class article "[p]rovides some meaningful content, but the majority of readers will need more.", while a B-class article "is mostly complete and without major issues". I did not examine the article very carefully, as I was mass-assessing articles for importance for WikiProject C++. However, now that I have revisited it, I feel that the article is not comprehensive enough for B-class. I would expect the article to provide, if not an exhaustive list, at least an overview of which cases constitute deduction failures that does not make the program ill-formed. The article currently only gives a single example without further explanation. Namely, that deduction fails because the program attempts to use a non-class type in a qualified-name, which is only one of many valid instances of SFINAE.
As for the assessment, may I propose C-Class ("Useful to a casual reader, but would not provide a complete picture for even a moderately detailed study") as a compromise for now? Regards, decltype (talk) 09:07, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
To clarify, it wasn't my intention to "assess-war", as I had no strong opinion about the article's quality then, I just copy-pasted your first assessment, and edit-conflicted with you, IIRC. But now that I have looked more carefully at the article, I don't think it is B-Class, per above. Regards, decltype (talk) 09:14, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough! Daydreamer302000 (talk) 12:11, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
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