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AFT5 newsletter

Hey again all :). So, some big news, some small news, some good news, some bad news!

On the "big news" front; we've now deployed AFT5 on to 10 percent of articles, This is pretty awesome :). On the "bad news", however, it looks like we're having to stop at 10 percent until around September - there are scaling issues that make it dangerous to deploy wider. Happily, our awesome features engineering team is looking into them as we speak, and I'm optimistic that the issues will be resolved.

For both "small" and "good" news; we've got another office hours session. This one is tomorrow, at 22:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office connect - I appreciate it's a bit late for Europeans, but I wanted to juggle it so US east coasters could attend if they wanted :). Hope to see you all there!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Okeyes (WMF) (talkcontribs)

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WWE pay per view section

In the WWE pay per view section. Those are the names of arenas. You did a mistake.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Harryjunior1000 (talkcontribs)

I have not done a mistake all additions need reliable sources to back up the information added. You and others before you have not provide a single source to back up the additions of arenas. Till a source is added along with the information, I and others will continue to remove the information added.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 02:17, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

First of all the building in Rosemont, Illinois is called the Allstate Arena The arena in Philadelphia is called the Wells Fargo Center The arena in Los Angeles where Summerslam has taken place and will take place is called the Staples Center The arena in Detroit is called the Joe Louis Arena The arena in Buffalo is called the First Niagara Center The arena in Miami is called the American Airlines Arena I live in Boston and the Survivor Series will at the TD Garden And in Houston the arena is called the Toyota Center What more reliable do you want? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harryjunior1000 (talkcontribs) 19:09, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

A source that comes from a reliable news organization. And please stop posting any where else this is my talk page if you need to ask me something it goes here not else where.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 20:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Insulting me does nothing for you. As it stands the Information that you and another user have added does not have a source to back it up which is required here. Just because you live in Boston doesn't mean a thing to me. The city's that the events are set to take place in has a source the Venues do not. Provide one and the info can stay in.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 20:59, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Please, I am giving you the right venues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harryjunior1000 (talkcontribs) 21:08, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
But your not providing any source to back it up they may be the right venues but they still need a source. Please read this reliable sources for more information.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 21:26, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Okay I understand what you are reliable sources. But, I would never give false information to this site. And I wouldn't lie to you or this site.Harryjunior1000 (talk) 21:34, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
See now your running into Original Research. Just because you say the info's true doesn't mean it is this is why we need a reliable source to back up the information. If you can find a source that states the info you want to added that is reliable Secondary source then by all mean added the info but till you have a source the info stays out.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 21:46, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
I will get you that source I will get back to you--Harryjunior1000 (talk) 21:51, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Ok good now we're getting somewhere. I look forward to see this source.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 21:54, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
I have tried every wrestling web site and all they mention is the city where the PPV is. Why they don't put the venue is hard to believe. The only person who give us what we are looking for is Mr.McMahon himself, but he wouldn't give us the time of day.Harryjunior1000 (talk) 22:00, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Ok then till a source can be found the information stays out.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 22:02, 14 February 2013 (UTC)Still nothing on sources regarding WWE PPV venues. To be honest with you, more excited about Wrestlemania, and a Rock vs Cena rematch for WWE Championship.Harryjunior1000 (talk) 20:34, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

WrestleMania 30

You undid my edit on "WrestleMania 30" to avoid a faulty double-redirect. Any reason? You left no description. If you search for WrestleMania 30, it should a redirect page for WrestleMania XXX, which is a faulty way of showing the page. Srsrox (talk) 02:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Never mind I see someone made a page for WrestleMania XXX now. That wasn't true earlier. Srsrox (talk) 02:36, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Yea that page was made an hour before I changed the redirect. But its whatever no harm done in the long run.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 04:52, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

New Article Feedback version available for testing

Hey all.

As promised, we've built a set of improvements to the Article Feedback Tool, which can be tested through the links here. Please do take the opportunity to play around with it, let me know of any bugs, and see what you think :).

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WWE PPV's

Still no information regarding WWE PPV venues yet they announce Wrestlemania 30 will be at the Superdome in New Orleans. Go figure.Harryjunior1000 (talk) 18:07, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

You just need to be patient.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 18:28, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
I am holding till after the April 9th Smackdown which will be here in BostonHarryjunior1000 (talk) 03:48, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Like I said just be patient source will come up as we get closer to the events.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 03:50, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2013 February newsletter

Round 1 is now over. The top 64 scorers have progressed to round 2, where they have been randomly split into eight pools of eight. At the end of April, the top two from each pool, as well as the 16 highest scorers from those remaining, will progress to round 3. Commiserations to those eliminated; if you're interested in still being involved in the WikiCup, able and willing reviewers will always be needed, and if you're interested in getting involved with other collaborative projects, take a look at the WikiWomen's Month discussed below.

Round 1 saw 21 competitors with over 100 points, which is fantastic; that suggests that this year's competition is going to be highly competative. Our lower scores indicate this, too: A score of 19 was required to reach round 2, which was significantly higher than the 11 points required in 2012 and 8 points required in 2011. The score needed to reach round 3 will be higher, and may depend on pool groupings. In 2011, 41 points secured a round 3 place, while in 2012, 65 was needed. Our top three scorers in round 1 were:

  1. Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), primarily for an array of warship GAs.
  2. London Miyagawa (submissions), primarily for an array of did you knows and good articles, some of which were awarded bonus points.
  3. New South Wales Casliber (submissions), due in no small part to Canis Minor, a featured article awarded a total of 340 points. A joint submission with Alaska Keilana (submissions), this is the highest scoring single article yet submitted in this year's competition.

Other contributors of note include:

Featured topics have still played no part in this year's competition, but once again, a curious contribution has been offered by British Empire The C of E (submissions): did you know that there is a Shit Brook in Shropshire? With April Fools' Day during the next round, there will probably be a good chance of more unusual articles...

March sees the WikiWomen's History Month, a series of collaborative efforts to aid the women's history WikiProject to coincide with Women's History Month and International Women's Day. A number of WikiCup participants have already started to take part. The project has a to-do list of articles needing work on the topic of women's history. Those interested in helping out with the project can find articles in need of attention there, or, alternatively, add articles to the list. Those interested in collaborating on articles on women's history are also welcome to use the WikiCup talk page to find others willing to lend a helping hand. Another collaboration currently running is an an effort from WikiCup participants to coordinate a number of Easter-themed did you know articles. Contributions are welcome!

A few final administrative issues. From now on, submission pages will need only a link to the article and a link to the nomination page, or, in the case of good article reviews, a link to the review only. See your submissions' page for details. This will hopefully make updating submission pages a little less tedious. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail) J Milburn (talk) 00:47, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

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Article Feedback deployment

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I just did an article concerning the Food Network Show Chef Wanted with Anne Burrell. If you have a chance, please take a look, and and if you can make it better, I could always look for help. Thank you Harryjunior1000 (talk) 18:48, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

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Wrestlemania is tonight. I am hoping that your fellow Oklahoman Jack Swagger wins his match tonight.Harryjunior1000 (talk) 18:04, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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Albert C. Hamlin article

I have created an Albert C. Hamlin article and would humbly request your review of it. Okheric (talk) 14:51, 17 April 2013 (UTC) Additionally, I have made multiple changes to the Oklahoma House of Representatives if you would like to weigh in on possible future improvements for that article Okheric (talk) 14:51, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

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Assessment Request - Pioneer Library Systems

I'm afraid this article is not as complete as the A.C. Hamlin one. I hope it is okay. Okheric (talk) 17:18, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done--Dcheagletalkcontribs 22:42, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Assessment request: Green Currin article

One more, taking a break after this one Okheric (talk) 19:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done--Dcheagletalkcontribs 22:42, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

One last request - Photo issues

I have been adding public domain photos of Oklahoma legislators to those articles. On a few of them, with thumbnail photos, which is necessary due to the size of the photo, they are not centered in the infobox. Is there a way to correct this? Okheric (talk) 20:35, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

What articles in question are the ones with the un-centered photos. Let me know and Ill take a look.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 22:33, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

R.C. Pruett, Todd Thomsen, Joe Dorman. I didn't write these articles, but I added photos to them. I think on other articles, where the photos fit, it's because they were smaller photos. Okheric (talk) 23:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Fixing issue by replacing photo on Wikimedia Commons with smaller version. The size of the photo was at least a part of the problem. Okheric (talk) 23:38, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok the issue you were having is easy to fix when you put a photo in instead of this code [[File:example.jpg|thumb]] Use this one [[File:example.jpg|200px]]. When you add an image to the infobox you don't want to add it as thumbnail image cause if you do you get the image with the box around the image like the top photo
, But if you use the second code your image looks like the bottom image and will align centered in the infobox and if you need to adjust the size just change 200px by adding or lower the number. Hope that helps.

Tried to add a photo to T.W. Shannon and it is not formatting corretctly , could you take a look

Tried to add a photo to T.W. Shannon and it is not formatting corretctly , could you take a look Okheric (talk) 15:32, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Sure hang on while I take a look. Ok I believe I've fixed the issue let me know if I haven't.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 18:38, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

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Pending release of Notifications

Hey Jeffrey R. Clark :). I'm dropping you a note because you have signed up for the Notifications, or Echo, newsletter.

If all goes according to plan, we should be launching Echo on en-wiki either tomorrow, or next Tuesday - I'll drop a followup tomorrow when we know what's happening. Should the launch succeed, we'll begin the process of triaging bugs and gathering feedback on what features work, what cause problems, and what we should do next; I hope you'll help us out on these fronts by leaving any comments you might have on the talkpage.

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Echo test

Yo this is a test for Echo.--FuinnForever 14:31, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Sweet this works.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 14:33, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

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Notifications box replacement prototypes released

Hey Dcheagle; Kaldari has finished scripting a set of potential replacements available to test and give feedback on. Please go to this thread for more detail on how to enable them. Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 15:24, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for tip

Thanks for letting me know. I will stop adding See alsos already mentioned in the article. Okheric (talk) 01:18, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

A, GA, FA

I want to start getting some articles assessed at A or GA or FA and could use some help going about it. I see that the A just takes kind of a group assessment from the WPOK group and want to start there. How should I go about getting the project's members to assess it. The article I would like to start with is: Oklahoma House of Representatives. Okheric (talk) 15:11, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

For an A-class assessment just leave a request at here and I will go about finding some other users besides my self to review the article there isnt to many active users besieds myself but I do know a few users who I think would be wiling to help out on a A-class review, as for GA and FA take a look here and here for GA and FA requirements. If you have more questions just let me know.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 20:27, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Lawton High School and Lawton High School (Lawton, Oklahoma)

there are two articles covering the same topic. THe second one has much less information and could probably be deleted. Okheric (talk) 22:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

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Do you own the copyright for this photo? According to this, it is a staff photo for The Oklahoman.--William S. Saturn (talk) 22:55, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

No, But I don't even remember uploading that image but I apparently did. Uh what needs to be done here so I can fix this issue.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 23:35, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
On commons, you should add a speedy delete template to every image you uploaded without proper permission.--William S. Saturn (talk) 00:28, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
All of my images have the correct permission but that one but ill take care of it.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 00:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Norman, Oklahoma

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Your GA nomination of Norman, Oklahoma

The article Norman, Oklahoma you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Norman, Oklahoma for comments about the article. Well done! - Adam37 Talk 13:24, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

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2007 NFL Draft Fiasco

Ok, we started this back and forth editing thing a few months ago, and we ended it when you said that I couldn't have the Draft table on 2006 Oklahoma Sooners football team because it wasn't sourced. Well, I sourced it, put the information that I deleted from the other section, and you still won't accept it. I don't understand. Every single Oklahoma Sooners season article from 1999-2012 has an NFL Draft table, as does all of the Texas Longhorns season articles, yet you've decided that the one on the OU 2006 article shouldn't be there. I'm a fan of consistency, and a fan of stuff that makes sense, and what you're doing is against both of those. Please. I've sourced it, I've included the information, and I've made it consistent with the other 20 or so articles, so can you please just stop deleting it? Kobra98 (talk) 20:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe its better to write the info in prose text it allows us to go more in depth then a table does as for the other pages I'm in the process of converting the tables to text so in the end everything will look the same and in the long run be better for getting these articles to GA Class and FA Class which is the end goal in my book. Give me some time to finish writing up the one for the 2012 season and you'll see what I'm trying to do.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 20:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
I don't understand how in depth you need to go. The only information needed is the player, the position, the round, the pick, and the team, and the table does all of that. Also, the table is much easier and faster to read, and I see no reason to change something that's been used for years and has worked fine. Kobra98 (talk) 21:41, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Go for GA nomination!

Hey, I appreciate the comment. I am very foggy on how to do the GA nomination. Okheric (talk) 13:54, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I can do it for you.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 16:56, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

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GA-nomination Request

Bruin2 has asked to have John Ross (Cherokee chief) GA-nominated again, but I am not really familiar with the process and since you had done so for the Oklahoma House of Representatives article, I thought you might consider putting in this request. If you think it is not ready for the nomination you might speak to him about it. I have gotten him to expand the lead a bit more. Okheric (talk) 02:42, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up I don't know how I missed Bruin2's request, as for the article it still needs work but I have stated a discussion with Bruin2 on his talk page and if the issues are fixed it will make a really good GA nomination.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 04:46, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
I would appreciate your posting your list of issues, so this article can move forward. Thanks for your review. (talk) 15:53, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Please post your list and any other comments on the article's talk page. Thanks. Bruin2 (talk) 17:36, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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2007 NFL Draft Fiasco

Ok, we started this back and forth editing thing a few months ago, and we ended it when you said that I couldn't have the Draft table on 2006 Oklahoma Sooners football team because it wasn't sourced. Well, I sourced it, put the information that I deleted from the other section, and you still won't accept it. I don't understand. Every single Oklahoma Sooners season article from 1999-2012 has an NFL Draft table, as does all of the Texas Longhorns season articles, yet you've decided that the one on the OU 2006 article shouldn't be there. I'm a fan of consistency, and a fan of stuff that makes sense, and what you're doing is against both of those. Please. I've sourced it, I've included the information, and I've made it consistent with the other 20 or so articles, so can you please just stop deleting it? Kobra98 (talk) 20:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe its better to write the info in prose text it allows us to go more in depth then a table does as for the other pages I'm in the process of converting the tables to text so in the end everything will look the same and in the long run be better for getting these articles to GA Class and FA Class which is the end goal in my book. Give me some time to finish writing up the one for the 2012 season and you'll see what I'm trying to do.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 20:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
I don't understand how in depth you need to go. The only information needed is the player, the position, the round, the pick, and the team, and the table does all of that. Also, the table is much easier and faster to read, and I see no reason to change something that's been used for years and has worked fine. Kobra98 (talk) 21:41, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Go for GA nomination!

Hey, I appreciate the comment. I am very foggy on how to do the GA nomination. Okheric (talk) 13:54, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I can do it for you.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 16:56, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

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GA-nomination Request

Bruin2 has asked to have John Ross (Cherokee chief) GA-nominated again, but I am not really familiar with the process and since you had done so for the Oklahoma House of Representatives article, I thought you might consider putting in this request. If you think it is not ready for the nomination you might speak to him about it. I have gotten him to expand the lead a bit more. Okheric (talk) 02:42, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up I don't know how I missed Bruin2's request, as for the article it still needs work but I have stated a discussion with Bruin2 on his talk page and if the issues are fixed it will make a really good GA nomination.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 04:46, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
I would appreciate your posting your list of issues, so this article can move forward. Thanks for your review. (talk) 15:53, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Please post your list and any other comments on the article's talk page. Thanks. Bruin2 (talk) 17:36, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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2007 NFL Draft Fiasco

Ok, we started this back and forth editing thing a few months ago, and we ended it when you said that I couldn't have the Draft table on 2006 Oklahoma Sooners football team because it wasn't sourced. Well, I sourced it, put the information that I deleted from the other section, and you still won't accept it. I don't understand. Every single Oklahoma Sooners season article from 1999-2012 has an NFL Draft table, as does all of the Texas Longhorns season articles, yet you've decided that the one on the OU 2006 article shouldn't be there. I'm a fan of consistency, and a fan of stuff that makes sense, and what you're doing is against both of those. Please. I've sourced it, I've included the information, and I've made it consistent with the other 20 or so articles, so can you please just stop deleting it? Kobra98 (talk) 20:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe its better to write the info in prose text it allows us to go more in depth then a table does as for the other pages I'm in the process of converting the tables to text so in the end everything will look the same and in the long run be better for getting these articles to GA Class and FA Class which is the end goal in my book. Give me some time to finish writing up the one for the 2012 season and you'll see what I'm trying to do.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 20:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
I don't understand how in depth you need to go. The only information needed is the player, the position, the round, the pick, and the team, and the table does all of that. Also, the table is much easier and faster to read, and I see no reason to change something that's been used for years and has worked fine. Kobra98 (talk) 21:41, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Go for GA nomination!

Hey, I appreciate the comment. I am very foggy on how to do the GA nomination. Okheric (talk) 13:54, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

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GA-nomination Request

Bruin2 has asked to have John Ross (Cherokee chief) GA-nominated again, but I am not really familiar with the process and since you had done so for the Oklahoma House of Representatives article, I thought you might consider putting in this request. If you think it is not ready for the nomination you might speak to him about it. I have gotten him to expand the lead a bit more. Okheric (talk) 02:42, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up I don't know how I missed Bruin2's request, as for the article it still needs work but I have stated a discussion with Bruin2 on his talk page and if the issues are fixed it will make a really good GA nomination.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 04:46, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
I would appreciate your posting your list of issues, so this article can move forward. Thanks for your review. (talk) 15:53, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Please post your list and any other comments on the article's talk page. Thanks. Bruin2 (talk) 17:36, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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Stub deletion

I am noticing a lot of stubs in our project that our highly likely to never grow further, such as Brenda Reneau. I'm not very familiar with article deletions. It seems like it is difficult to get people to weigh in to help complete the process. I thought we might work together to get a few of these deleted, starting with the above-mentioned article. Okheric (talk) 15:48, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Ok Well the first thing that needs to be done is we need to go over the list of stubs and see if any of them meet the Notability guidelines and if there is any chance that the could be expanded. If not then we can start the process getting these stubs deleted.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 20:22, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Okheric,
I concur with both you and Dcheagle about going over the list of WP:Oklahoma stubs, and would like to help.. The example you cite certainly doesn't address the notability requirement very well. In such cases, I would post on the article talk page that it is being considered for deletion. This would be a heads up to the original author or anyone else that is really interested in the subject to add more relevant information. After a short period, say two weeks, then proceed with deletion process. Sometimes people start an article then get sidetracked on something else.
I have been pursuing stubs about several topics in WP:Oklahoma, especially counties, cities, and some general topics for this very reason. Usually I avoid the people articles unless I happen to know something about the subject, or it fits with another topic that I have worked on. Not a very scientific process, but hopefully will help get us to the same end point. Bruin2 (talk) 01:14, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
I cited the Notability guidelines as a base line for determining what can stay and be expanded and what just needs to be deleted because if its not notable and doesn't meet the baseline requirements then there's no need to try to keep and expand it in the first place.
Is there a particular tag used to cite its being considered for deletion? Brenda Reneau is no longer in office and I don't think it is likely much more will be written about her. Labor Commissioner in Oklahoma is like a stepping stone job. Either the individual goes onto something else from that office or they disappear into obscurity. There are a lot of these pages that have been started by officials and have gone nowhere since their initial writing. I looked at expanding them initially but there really wasn't much out there. Okheric (talk) 13:46, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Placing a {{notability}} tag on the articles I am questioning. Okheric (talk) 13:56, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
That would be a start in the process, place the tag's then wait two weeks then if no one steps in to expanded it or contest the tag then we mark it for deletion. Before we start to do this we need to come up with some guidelines to follow while we do this Ill try to come up with some starting out then we can tweek them if we need to.
I am removing some notability tags. Someone stepped in and contested notability challenges to Brenda Reneau, noting that statewide elected officials qualify for notability, even if not much information is available. He also challenged notability challenges to some of the athlete and Division 1 head coach categories. So far this is the only feedback I have received. Okheric (talk) 15:03, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I was also able to expand Brenda Reneau. I did a Newsok.com search for her and found some stories. The article is still a stub, but at least not so pathetically tiny. I also added an infobox. Okheric (talk) 18:22, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
After looking over the stubs, most if not all just need to be expanded. I think only a hand full will need to be deleted. So its just a matter of slowly expanding these stubs. I'm also getting ready to start a simi-automated process of going thru all the stubs to see if any just need to have there assessment changed.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 19:38, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Removed notability tag on Mareta West and expanded article. I also removed the notability tag for an OU head coach, though the article was scarce. About 5 articles remain tagged. Okheric (talk) 19:53, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, was more than 5, here's the list:

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2007 NFL Draft Fiasco

Ok, we started this back and forth editing thing a few months ago, and we ended it when you said that I couldn't have the Draft table on 2006 Oklahoma Sooners football team because it wasn't sourced. Well, I sourced it, put the information that I deleted from the other section, and you still won't accept it. I don't understand. Every single Oklahoma Sooners season article from 1999-2012 has an NFL Draft table, as does all of the Texas Longhorns season articles, yet you've decided that the one on the OU 2006 article shouldn't be there. I'm a fan of consistency, and a fan of stuff that makes sense, and what you're doing is against both of those. Please. I've sourced it, I've included the information, and I've made it consistent with the other 20 or so articles, so can you please just stop deleting it? Kobra98 (talk) 20:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe its better to write the info in prose text it allows us to go more in depth then a table does as for the other pages I'm in the process of converting the tables to text so in the end everything will look the same and in the long run be better for getting these articles to GA Class and FA Class which is the end goal in my book. Give me some time to finish writing up the one for the 2012 season and you'll see what I'm trying to do.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 20:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
I don't understand how in depth you need to go. The only information needed is the player, the position, the round, the pick, and the team, and the table does all of that. Also, the table is much easier and faster to read, and I see no reason to change something that's been used for years and has worked fine. Kobra98 (talk) 21:41, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Go for GA nomination!

Hey, I appreciate the comment. I am very foggy on how to do the GA nomination. Okheric (talk) 13:54, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I can do it for you.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 16:56, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

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GA-nomination Request

Bruin2 has asked to have John Ross (Cherokee chief) GA-nominated again, but I am not really familiar with the process and since you had done so for the Oklahoma House of Representatives article, I thought you might consider putting in this request. If you think it is not ready for the nomination you might speak to him about it. I have gotten him to expand the lead a bit more. Okheric (talk) 02:42, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up I don't know how I missed Bruin2's request, as for the article it still needs work but I have stated a discussion with Bruin2 on his talk page and if the issues are fixed it will make a really good GA nomination.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 04:46, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
I would appreciate your posting your list of issues, so this article can move forward. Thanks for your review. (talk) 15:53, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Please post your list and any other comments on the article's talk page. Thanks. Bruin2 (talk) 17:36, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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Stub deletion

I am noticing a lot of stubs in our project that our highly likely to never grow further, such as Brenda Reneau. I'm not very familiar with article deletions. It seems like it is difficult to get people to weigh in to help complete the process. I thought we might work together to get a few of these deleted, starting with the above-mentioned article. Okheric (talk) 15:48, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Ok Well the first thing that needs to be done is we need to go over the list of stubs and see if any of them meet the Notability guidelines and if there is any chance that the could be expanded. If not then we can start the process getting these stubs deleted.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 20:22, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Okheric,
I concur with both you and Dcheagle about going over the list of WP:Oklahoma stubs, and would like to help.. The example you cite certainly doesn't address the notability requirement very well. In such cases, I would post on the article talk page that it is being considered for deletion. This would be a heads up to the original author or anyone else that is really interested in the subject to add more relevant information. After a short period, say two weeks, then proceed with deletion process. Sometimes people start an article then get sidetracked on something else.
I have been pursuing stubs about several topics in WP:Oklahoma, especially counties, cities, and some general topics for this very reason. Usually I avoid the people articles unless I happen to know something about the subject, or it fits with another topic that I have worked on. Not a very scientific process, but hopefully will help get us to the same end point. Bruin2 (talk) 01:14, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
I cited the Notability guidelines as a base line for determining what can stay and be expanded and what just needs to be deleted because if its not notable and doesn't meet the baseline requirements then there's no need to try to keep and expand it in the first place.
Is there a particular tag used to cite its being considered for deletion? Brenda Reneau is no longer in office and I don't think it is likely much more will be written about her. Labor Commissioner in Oklahoma is like a stepping stone job. Either the individual goes onto something else from that office or they disappear into obscurity. There are a lot of these pages that have been started by officials and have gone nowhere since their initial writing. I looked at expanding them initially but there really wasn't much out there. Okheric (talk) 13:46, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Placing a {{notability}} tag on the articles I am questioning. Okheric (talk) 13:56, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
That would be a start in the process, place the tag's then wait two weeks then if no one steps in to expanded it or contest the tag then we mark it for deletion. Before we start to do this we need to come up with some guidelines to follow while we do this Ill try to come up with some starting out then we can tweek them if we need to.
I am removing some notability tags. Someone stepped in and contested notability challenges to Brenda Reneau, noting that statewide elected officials qualify for notability, even if not much information is available. He also challenged notability challenges to some of the athlete and Division 1 head coach categories. So far this is the only feedback I have received. Okheric (talk) 15:03, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I was also able to expand Brenda Reneau. I did a Newsok.com search for her and found some stories. The article is still a stub, but at least not so pathetically tiny. I also added an infobox. Okheric (talk) 18:22, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
After looking over the stubs, most if not all just need to be expanded. I think only a hand full will need to be deleted. So its just a matter of slowly expanding these stubs. I'm also getting ready to start a simi-automated process of going thru all the stubs to see if any just need to have there assessment changed.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 19:38, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Removed notability tag on Mareta West and expanded article. I also removed the notability tag for an OU head coach, though the article was scarce. About 5 articles remain tagged. Okheric (talk) 19:53, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, was more than 5, here's the list:

Okheric (talk) 19:58, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

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2007 NFL Draft Fiasco

Ok, we started this back and forth editing thing a few months ago, and we ended it when you said that I couldn't have the Draft table on 2006 Oklahoma Sooners football team because it wasn't sourced. Well, I sourced it, put the information that I deleted from the other section, and you still won't accept it. I don't understand. Every single Oklahoma Sooners season article from 1999-2012 has an NFL Draft table, as does all of the Texas Longhorns season articles, yet you've decided that the one on the OU 2006 article shouldn't be there. I'm a fan of consistency, and a fan of stuff that makes sense, and what you're doing is against both of those. Please. I've sourced it, I've included the information, and I've made it consistent with the other 20 or so articles, so can you please just stop deleting it? Kobra98 (talk) 20:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe its better to write the info in prose text it allows us to go more in depth then a table does as for the other pages I'm in the process of converting the tables to text so in the end everything will look the same and in the long run be better for getting these articles to GA Class and FA Class which is the end goal in my book. Give me some time to finish writing up the one for the 2012 season and you'll see what I'm trying to do.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 20:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
I don't understand how in depth you need to go. The only information needed is the player, the position, the round, the pick, and the team, and the table does all of that. Also, the table is much easier and faster to read, and I see no reason to change something that's been used for years and has worked fine. Kobra98 (talk) 21:41, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Go for GA nomination!

Hey, I appreciate the comment. I am very foggy on how to do the GA nomination. Okheric (talk) 13:54, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I can do it for you.--Dcheagletalkcontribs 16:56, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

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