User talk:David Haslam/Archive2

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Catt and dog fights

Although I found Catt's original articles thought provoking, I am really unsure as to whether to stir up this possible hornets nest on WP. As you know his ideas, whilst interesting (possibly some are correct) are extremely controversial. Catt doesnt really do himself any favours by his attitude of trying to bully people into saying things which he then uses against other innocent people in trying to promote disagreement. However, I think, when I am feeling bored, I may introduce one of Catts older ideas about displacement current and capacitors/ transmission lines (as this is one area I know a little bit about) into the arena and see what people think. The trouble is that too many diversions (whilst promoting thought processes), may not help in the final goal of writing an encyclopedia. Light current 15:40, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

As long as one maintains a NPOV in reporting a controversy, I can't see any serious objection to writing a concise and dispassionate summary of Catt's theories and his critics. The Wireless World stuff is now 27 years old, so we'd be reporting it as history.

One of the nice things about WP is that you can still obtain useful information about people generally deemed to hold and teach controversial views. Just over a week ago, for example, I had a look at the article about William A. Dembski who is one of the stars of the Intelligent Design movement. I've read his book, The Design Inference, and found the argument to be of considerable merit.

Last night, for want of anything better to do, I did some updates on the Eric Laithwaite article. He too had a phase in which he espoused highly controversial views, in his case about gyroscopes, and just as with Ivor Catt, the establishment spurned him rather than explaining exactly where he was incorrect in his thinking. btw. It was attending Laithwaite's lecture demonstrations on linear motors in 1965 that inspired me choose a career in electrical engineering.

I agree with you that Catt is now doing himself no favours by the agressive and accusational tone he has adopted. I guess that 35 years of frustration at being ignored could well drive someone to such measures.

As for displacement current, I've been discussing this subject during lunch breaks with my Russian friend and colleague in the semiconductor business, someone who expressed doubts and raised questions about how this is commonly taught and interpreted, back when he was at university in the former Soviet Union, where dissident voices usually suffered worse fates than being ignored.

DFH 20:02:11, 2005-09-09 (UTC)

OK I think you convinced me to try to debunk displacement current. I never liked the idea anyway. But if things get too hot--- I shall blame you! ;-) --Light current 07:39, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

I have lit the fuse on Talk:Capacitor. and am now retiring to a safe distance!!!--Light current 01:03, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

So I noticed, but so far still only a three cornered fight. Also picked up today in Talk:Displacement current, I see. DFH 17:38, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Interesting controversies

In this section of my talk page, I will list other areas of controversy which I personally find very interesting. I will usually give the link to the article about the person who advanced the controversial theory. This will be an ongoing activity. DFH 09:42:55, 2005-09-10 (UTC)

• Thomas Gold
• Immanuel Velikovsky
• David Rohl
• Michael Ruppert and David Ray Griffin on the September 11, 2001 attacks.
• Michael Behe and William A. Dembski
• Ivor Catt

Parkinson's Disease

Mr. Haslam, were you the poster who informed me that user General Tojo is Keith Bridgeman? I've been unable to find anything in the scientific literature on or by him, and since Nobel nominations are kept secret for 50 years, that bit is impossible to confirm. I did note on earlier editions of Braintalk, prior to his banning, he was plugging a treatment that he's come up with. And his biochemistry explanations are way out of the mainstream. Doesn't mean he's wrong, mind you, but if they made sense one would expect some journal articles with controversial responses. Instead, nothing. I'm inclined to think the man is a fraud and snake-oil salesman. What's your take? --Dan 22:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Dan, I didn't add any post regarding the name Keith Bridgeman. I'm not qualified to know whether General Tojo's posts are good science. My involvement with the Parkinson's Disease page was limited to (a) query the necessity of multiple instances of the same external link (which did have the visual appearance of being vanity links, whether or not that was intended), for which I received an overheated accusation of vandalism by user General Tojo, and (b) to attempt improvements to the format. I've since been focussing on other articles, so I hadn't even noticed that he had been banned. DFH 17:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Q. Would a real Nobel laureate post under the name of General Tojo – a convicted war criminal? What's your take? DFH 17:09, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

- He claims to be Nobel nominee, something that cannot be confirmed because the names of nominees aren't released until 50 years after the nomination. But in any event, that is an odd choice of user name. --Dan 22:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Compare this for instance with the banned user name User:Adolf Hitler. Just because his Japanese contemporary is less well known in the West shouldn't mean that General Tojo is equally inappropriate! DFH 20:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I just searched Google for "Keith Bridgeman"+biochemist and found [1] which includes the word 'banned'. Is this what you were referring to, Dan? DFH 17:15, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I can't find any evidence to indicate that User:General Tojo is banned or blocked in Wikipedia. See [2]DFH 20:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the Braintalk banning is the one I was refering to. Another user, evidentally not yourself, pointed me that direction. A google on "Keith Bridgeman" and Parkinson's comes up with one hit, a patent for a medication containing among other things, l-tyrosine and iron, something evidentally sold by some outfit called Dopavite, referred to in Tojo's section entitled "Nutrients". The whole l-tyrosine hypothesis depends in large part on General Tojo's argument that the dopamine-producing neurons aren't dead but are slacking off for whatever reason. That leads to his patented product, and is why I wondered about him being a snake-oil peddler. That and the fact that he has nothing published on PubMed. --Dan 21:31, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Something further I just noticed - Bridgeman has deleted that whole discussion of vanity links, looks like about 8:30 June 16. Same thing he did to my argument with him about incidence and prevalence. Guess he doesn't want to talk with us. --Dan 22:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I have no inclination to revert. On his track record, the response would be predictable. DFH 17:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree, but in that case how do I and the others interested in doing so go about putting up a reasonable wiki on Parkinson's? --Dan 18:23, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Good point! This kind of conflict of interest is not something I've had to deal with before in wikipedia. Maybe you and others need to gather sufficient evidence to convince the site administrators that your view of GT is really the case? First study the grounds why users can be blocked. Have a look in the page Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. DFH 20:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Ooh, look at that! General Tojo is spamming - those links with the toxins go to his private website, and he does link to dopavite, for which he holds the patent! --Dan 15:10, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

If you post further replies here, Dan, it will be over a week before I get to read them. Also, just to remind you, that I have no expert knowledge about PD. You'll see from my user page that I'm an electrical engineer. DFH 21:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, the same is true for me - I'm about to leave for my annual professional meeting in Seattle. We'll see what the page looks like when I get back. He just took down a rather nice entry of mine in the incidence section, so I scolded him & put it back up. We'll see what happens to the scolding & the reversion. Lay odds that both vanish. --Dan 15:06, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Pages wanted

• James Norman Dalrymple Anderson — Head of the Department of Law, School of Oriental & African Studies, London 1953-71; Professor of Oriental Laws, University of London 1954-75; Director of the Institute of Advanced Legal Studies in the University of London 1959-76. As well as being an expert on Islamic Law, Sir Norman Anderson was a prominent Christian scholar. He wrote a number of books, including:
  • Islamic law in Africa, (1954)
  • The Evidence for the Resurrection
  • Christianity: the witness of history - a lawyer's approach, (1969)
  • Christianity and comparative religion , (1970)
  • Law reform in the Muslim world, (1976)
  • Christianity and World Religions : the challenge of pluralism, (1984)
  • An adopted son : the story of my life, (1985)
  • Islam in the modern world : a Christian perspective, (1990)

His son Hugh Anderson was a President of the Cambridge Union and a contemporary of mine at Trinity College, Cambridge. DFH 19:05, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

See 1969 Michaelmas in the List of Cambridge Union Society Presidents. DFH 18:13, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Page created. DFH 17:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

A Quick Question

If you're not busy, I'd appreciate it if you'd take a look at this. Black Carrot 13:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I see others have responded satisfactorily before I logged in. DFH 16:23, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Good Job!

You have done a good job on Higher Life movement and Keswick Convention. I appreciate your improvements. Logophile 02:24, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Your comment of approval is much appreciated. DFH 17:04, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

General Tojo

Hi David,

I've opened up a case file on General Tojo at WP:ANI#General_Tojo. As you've dealt with him before in the past, I'd appreciate it if you could provide us with any comments at the above link so that we might find some way to end his abuse and attacks on Wikipedia once and for all.

Thanks,  Netsnipe  ^(Talk)  18:26, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the other genuine users who have added comments in the above link. Before his username was first blocked, I observed that he was editing only the pages on Parkinson's Disease, which made me suspect he was suffering from monomania. Even before all his abuse escalated, it was becoming pretty clear to me that he is a highly disturbed individual who entirely lacks civility in his online dealings. I have nothing further to add the case file, as my own involvement was somewhat serendipitous; merely it was I who first had the temerity to challenge his vanity links in the PD page by means of comments in the Talk:PD page. This being so, I prefer to record these comments here, rather than at WP:ANI#GT. DFH 18:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Response from Bzehr - reverts on glossolalia page

I am not sure if this is how I respond to your comments. However, I had already posted commentary to that effect on the talk page for that article.

I believe the edits stand strongly on their own merits - they were obvious POV on topics, interpretation and "sign", already discussed in the article. The Bible references should be added to those sections as may fit into the context. Redundancy should be avoided.

As far as the vein of my postings - I write where my interest and knowledge lie, as I would most Wikipedians. I feel my contributions to the Holy Spirit Baptism article have taken it from a Pentecostal/Charismatic-only focus to a more balanced, NPOV article, by adding breadth and accurate information.

By all means, respond to the discussion on the talk page for the glossolalia article if you feel the posts I removed warrant a place - at most, I feel the Scripture citations should be placed in the section already discussing those issues. bzehr

You didn't sign & date the edits in Talk:glossolalia regarding the alleged POV edits. Nor did you follow the guideline to keep talk page discussions in chronological order as much as possible. It would help if you could do that in future. You might wish to move the "POV Additions" section from the top of the talk page to the bottom.

The question I need to put to you is how charismatics actually read the verses from 1 Cor 14 that I inserted into the section headed "Tongues in the NT"? Do they take them to mean the opposite of how they plainly read? Or is it that they take the view that somehow they don't apply to the present situation? Cessationists and continuationists should at least be able to agree on the plain meaning of the Biblical text, even if they differ on how to apply what it teaches. DFH 16:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure how I missed this response until now - sorry it has been so long. It is now an older discussion, and the 1 Cor 14 verses I still think are off-topic in the section they were added to originally - but your as far as concerns your question about how charismatics defend their position on tongues-speaking in light of verses such as 1 Corinthians 14:28, "But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God," I think rests on their reliance on other scriptures, mostly from this same chapter. Indeed, charismatics may point to the last phrase of the same verse, "and let him speak to himself, and to God." It seems there is a command to simultaneously, "let him keep silence" and "let him speak (to himself and to God)". What does it meen to keep silence and to speak at the same time? I believe the charismatics' explanation is found in whom is being addressed by the tongues-speaking. When spoken to other people, and interpreted, charismatics claim that tongues function as prophecy: "...for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying" (1 Corinthians 14:5). When not interpreted, tongues are spoken to God ("...he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God" v. 2) as a language of prayer ("...For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth..." v. 4), singing praises to God ("...I will sing with the spirit" v. 15), blessing God and giving thanks to him (vv. 16, 17: "...thou verily givest thanks well..."). Tongues additionally are spoken to oneself, in the sense that they build up the speaker ("He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself" v. 4). So in response to the criticism that charismatics ignore 1 Corinthians 14:28, they would counter that they simply read that verse in the context of the rest of the chapter: when speaking tongues in the church (that is to other people in the assembly), unless they are interpreted, keep silent, because it is not doing them any good for you to get their attention and speak to them in tongues (no preaching in tongues, no giving announcements in tongues, etc.). But minding your own business, as it were, and praying (in tongues), is between you and God -- and you can pray or praise in church to yourself and God just as legitimately in tongues as in English or any language for that matter. They might say that in a multi-cultural service, the woman praying and siging next to you in a language you do not understand should not bother you - you pretty much know she is praising God even though you do not understand a word. It could be one of many languages, or tongues of the spirit. It matters not. As long as she is not trying to preach to or address the assembly in that language without an interpreter, there is really no disruption or confusion. bzehr 18:43, 07 October 2006

In view of the delay in your response, I guess you won't mind if I take time to cogitate before responding to these points. DFH 16:46, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Harry Ironside

Thanks for the additions to the Harry Ironside page! Assuming it survives the AfD listing, would it be more appropriate (at least giving WP's naming guidelines) to have the article listed under "Harry Ironside" without the "A."? As I'm still a fairly new editor, I'm not exactly sure how to move the article...would you be available to help?Akradecki 20:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd prefer that redirects were made for Harry Ironside and H. A. Ironside to the existing page. Better still, let's move the article to his full name Henry Allan Ironside and make all the others into redirects. (Harry is a familiar nickname for Henry). DFH 21:13, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

cf. COPAC has 70 records for his full name! DFH 21:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes - I'm willing to assist, but not tonight, as it's past bedtime in England. DFH 21:17, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan...ironically, it's bed time here in California, too! Akradecki 06:07, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Looks like another editor has changed the date formats on the Ironside entry...looks non-encyclopedic. I've asked him about this on his talk page, but I think it should be changed back. Your thoughts?Akradecki 18:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, David...finally got around to re-writing Harry A. Ironside. Probably could use a copyedit to compensate for my fat fingers. Needs more on the theological influence section (probably a good idea to delve a bit into his holiness and dispensationalism ideas), but don't have time right now. Would now be a good time to move the page to Henry Allan Ironside like you suggested earlier? Any suggestions/critiques would be most appreciated! Akradecki 19:37, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Alan.... Look's pretty good to me (though maybe slightly POV in terms of using Christian terminology, etc).
I've just Wikified some more of the place names, and removed the word denomination. Some questions:

1. Was his son called John Schofield or John Scofield ? [= was he named after CIS ?]

2. Can we find anything more in Wikipedia about Hazzard's Pavillion?

This was called Hazard's Pavilion, with only one Z. See [3] and [4] but it is not listed in List of Registered Historic Places in Los Angeles County, California. DFH 19:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Since I live in Los Angeles County, I thought I'd take this one on...there's now an entry for Hazard's Pavilion, and I modifed the text of the Ironside page, as the Temple Auditorium is really the same building, just renamed by Temple Baptist Church, which leased the building because they were opposed to boxing, and a lot of big boxing matches were held at Hazard's. Akradecki 20:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Your excellent new page leads me to suggest an update might be nice in Los Angeles Philharmonic to describe it as the venue for its earliest concerts. Over to our local correspondent, Alan Radecki. DFH 18:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Done. I'll probably eventually create seperate entry for Philharmonic Auditorium, but don't have the time at the moment. Moody Church comes first! Akradecki 19:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

After further thought, I see little point to move the page. DFH 19:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

It was Schofield, after the mother's maiden name. I've tried, but can find very little on the pavillion. I understand what you mean by POV...I tried really hard, but I guess some of my background shows through. Because much of what he did was based on his convictions, it's hard to explain his motives without using some of the terminology...please feel free to edit!! Akradecki 19:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree, writing as a Christian about a prominent Christian, it is very difficult to keep strictly to a NPOV. I'm not unduly bothered, as other users are free to make improvements if they feel they can achieve this goal concisely and without removing the factual information. You can see my discoveries about Hazard's Pavillion above, and also as referenced footnotes in the article. DFH 19:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Another challenge for you, Alan. Find the lyrics for his hymn Overshadowed anywhere online. It's not in the Cyberhymnal. DFH 19:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

It's at http://www.gospelmusic.org.uk/n-r/overshadowed.htm ... I'll hold off adding, because it looks like you're currently editing, and I don't want to collide. Akradecki 20:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Done as a ref. note. (Thanks for finding it). DFH 18:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Moody Church page created

David, the Moody Church page is now up and running, and I'd very much appreciate it you would take a look at it for copy edit, POV and anything else you can think of. This one's personal for me...I went there for 2 years while I attended Moody Bible Institute in the early 80s. Also, I'm named after Alan Redpath, who resigned from Moody Church the year I was born. Thanks much!! Akradecki 03:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

It's a good article, Alan. Very informative. Some of the dates could do with canonicalization. DFH 10:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Done.Akradecki 18:42, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Your connection leads me to suggest you might wish to create a Wikipedia page about Alan Redpath (1907–1989). See [5]. DFH 10:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

It's definitely on my "To Do" list! I got to hear him speak once, at MBI's "Founder's Week" conference, and afterwards went up to introduce myself and explain the name connection. Unfortunately, he was quite aged, and hard of hearing, and didn't really understand what I was trying to say. He was a great speaker from the pulpit, though. BTW...looks like someone vandalized your user page? Akradecki 18:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Some of my recent contributions that were vandalised (it's a long story! — see section 8 of this page) have since been repaired by administrator Tom harrison, for which I am most grateful. DFH 18:55, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, Alan Redpath is up, though a bit shorter. Gotta run to the store, will do more research later. Akradecki 19:07, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Alan, I have just Wikified some items in the Alan Redpath page, added 2 more external links, and corrected a few typos. DFH 19:50, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

And subsequently updated the bibliography section by reference to COPAC. DFH 21:39, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Cool...thanks! My teenage daughter was about to throw a fit 'cause I wouldn't get off the computer. More to come....Akradecki 21:48, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Solution: Wireless home network and her own laptop PC! DFH 21:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Found the page for Amzi Dixon and linked it within Moody Church. DFH 22:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Dr. Verna Wright

As yet there is no Wikipedia page about Verna Wright (1928-12-31–1998-01-31), the rheumatology specialist of Leeds University and co-founder of United Beach Missions. Might someone care to take up the task? DFH 19:46, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

A CMF obituary of Verna Wright is at [6]. DFH 19:48, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Done...could use a copyedit. Akradecki 00:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

A. C. Dixon

I found that the text on the A. C. Dixon page was pretty much cut-and-paste from an outside website, and thus presented possible copyright vio, so I tried to rewrite it. I had to call it quits to do family stuff just as I found another source, so I'll be back. Your copyedit would be appreciated! I also realized that the R. A. Torrey article is the old one from the 1911 Britannica, so that'll go on the To Do list. Akradecki 21:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

In-work evangelists pages

Hi David, the changes to Reuben Archer Torrey is now up for your perusal. (And, though I couldn't add this to the entry...I hold a bit of distinction when it comes to Torrey Auditorium at MBI, besides the fact that my father before me graduated from there. Upon a bet with some friends, I designed and built a paper plane and flew it from the top row of seats at the very back of the balcony all the way up into the choir loft...can't recall how long that hall is, but it's long enough that no one - and we were all Missionary Aviation geeks - said it could be done! If I remember correct, the bet was for a hot-fudge sundae) Akradecki 22:53, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Alan, Do you still remember the design of your paper plane? DFH 13:12, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

It was a variation to the classic Sherrill glider (featured at Scientific American's First International Paper Airplane Competition in 1967 [Robert D. Sherrill was an engineer for the Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB]). The standard design is not very directionally stable, so I modified it (based on some things I'd tried that won a high school competition) a bit so that it wouldn't tend to turn as much. Air currents in the auditorium were a problem, and IIRC, it took a couple of attempts to get the plane straight from the back to the front (Torrey Auditorium has a wrap-around balcony, and the plane tended to end up at the front end of the wrap around. All good fun, and it was a nice change from theology debates we tended to get into in my dorm until 3 am!Akradecki 16:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

For another hark back to the First International Paper Airplane Competition, see [7]. btw. I assume from your MAF interest that you are well familiar with the story of Jim Elliot and Nate Saint, &c. DFH 16:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, quite familiar with Elliot and Saint. While I never ended up as a missionary pilot (in real life I'm crew chief on a medevac helicopter, though I haven't put this aspect of my life on my user page), a close friend of mine, Alan King, at Moody went to MAF and was killed when his plane crashed on takeoff. Quite a loss. And thanks for the White Wings link...I've spent many an hour with my kids building those! Akradecki 17:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi again...I've rewritten and expanded the article for James M. Gray, and would appreciate a copyedit and other additions, when you get a chance. Thanks!! Akradecki 23:49, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Anthony Norris Groves

Thanks David Haslam for editing and adding more info to the article. --Nmj 19:34, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. May I suggest you create your user page, just to give a little bit about yourself? DFH 19:46, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Walk Thru the Bible

David, I just got done wikifying and expanding the Walk Thru the Bible entry...I tried to keep NPOV, and would really appreciate a doublecheck from you! Akradecki 22:30, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Alan, WTB is not a ministry I was aware of beforehand. Earlier today I corrected one typo, that's all. DFH

If you ever get a chance to go thru one of their seminars, it's definitely worth it. One of our former asst pastors is now a training instructor for them, so we get them fairly frequently. Akradecki 18:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't be a priority for me, even if one took place in my area. I've been "walking through the Bible" for nearly 40 years since I first believed on Christ unto salvation. DFH 18:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Amen to that, bro! What WTB does more than anything is present the "big picture" of the overall flow, with some innovative ways of remembering what's where. I'm just about a year behind you, at 39 years as a believer, but I went to take my kids, and they really benefitted. Thanks for the edit help! Akradecki 19:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Alan, I just edited the page for WTB abbreviations. DFH 19:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Persecution of Christians

Hi David, this article is getting overly long, and is terribly disorganized, and really doesn't have the encyclopedic quality it should. I've posted a notice of intended rework on the talk page, as I'm going to try to take a stab at improving it without causing additional controversy. Any help you want to provide would be much appreciated! In the intitial pass, I intend to just deal with section organization to make it flow more logically as a integral article. Then, we'll go from there. Are there any things that you particularly see as needing improvement? One thing I see is that statements should be sourced with ref tags better. Can you help with that? Thanks!! Akradecki 15:13, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

An admirable task, though I may not have much time to assist you after the coming weekend, when I'll be having a short break. DFH 18:11, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Dalits

I have no connection with the Methodist minister called David Haslam who is the chair of the Dalit Solidarity Network (UK). He's just one of my many namesakes. DFH 21:03, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Plymouth Brethren

This note is for anyone wondering why I have sometimes edited the articles on Plymouth Brethren and Exclusive Brethren. Fact is that from 1968 to 1974, I was in fellowship at a meeting of the Glanton Brethren in Levenshulme. DFH 21:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Dear David. Thanks for the offer of the Brethren Chart. I was looking for something like that to try and put a bit more flesh on the bones of the EB page - Dry bones indeed some might say. I do think that it would be a useful reference to list some of the groups and the dates they reunited together I have got quite a bit jotted down but some other verification would be helpful. Some of the more isolated groups could be listed too. At the moment I am looking into those who left during the "reign" of the Taylors senior and Junior before Aberdeen and I expect your chart might help there too. I am on the advisory board for the Brethren Archive at Manchester so tend to feed in MSS I get to their archive. Many thanks

Gregory Morris, St Deiniol's Library, Hawarden 12:03, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

See You at the Pole

Can you help with categories for this article? Thanks! Akradecki 21:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

First time I'd ever heard of it on this side of "the pond". DFH 21:56, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Really? I'm surprised. My teens are really into this...they had a pretty good crowd around the pole this morning. Akradecki 22:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Not all British schools have a flagpole, and those that do have one rarely use it like schools do in the USA. In Britain, there is no legal equivalent to "that first amendment". Even so, there are pressures in some state funded schools for Christian teachers and pupils. DFH 22:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm...no flag pole...hadn't thought about it. Kinda like when I was a kid and we didn't have a chimney in our house, so I never expected Santa. I'm surprised there are pressures, though, because isn't the Church of England still the "official" state religion there? Akradecki 22:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

The Church of England is "established by law" in England, just as the Church of Scotland is established in Scotland as the national church though not the state church. The Church of Wales (Anglican) was distestablished, as was the Church of Ireland. See also state religion — a phrase that even includes situations where other religious groups are suppressed by the state. Secularism and humanism are more entrenched in some parts of the Education system in the UK, but there is still more access into state schools for voluntary groups that have a religious ethos than you seem to have in the USA because of the restrictions imposed by the legal application of the Establishment Clause. Pressures on teachers can come through the National Curriculum, or because of the personal whims of individual headmasters. DFH 10:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I guess that many evangelicals in Britain would be dissuaded from associating their religious activities from anything symbolic of their national allegiance, such as the country flag. I should like to think that we are sufficiently mature to recognise that our position in Christ not only makes us "citizens of heaven" (Phil. 3:20), but gives us an obligation to have fellowship with Christians throughout the world irrespective of national boundaries. Traditionalists might not see it from this perspective, but IMHO, that is to their loss rather than their gain. DFH 10:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

That's a great perspective! The Church in the US is by-and-large opposite of that, being some of the most ardent supporters of the "pledge of allegiance". Personally, I very much agree with the position you enumerated, and feel that the US church suffers from such earthly allegiances. Akradecki 15:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Alan, if you're an avid reader, get hold of a copy of That First Amendment and the Remnant by (the late) Leonard Verduin. Sheds an unusual perspective on the Establishment Clause, etc. DFH 18:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Will look for it...I'm usually reading 2 or 3 books at the same time.... Akradecki 19:36, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Simple church

New article I thought you'd like to know about. Akradecki 04:16, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Alan – I had a brief look at it yesterday evening. DFH 14:02, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Blue Letter Bible

Hi David...I've been asked to provide input for this new article, and wouldn't mind having your input as well. As they say today here in the former Colonies, "Happy Thanksgiving!" Akradecki 16:32, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Never come across this before. DFH 20:06, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you gentlemen for your edits to the BLB article. David, I am enjoying some of your articles. I'll keep your list in mind for CIM, as I come across references. Aslo, we will be starting a new "Ladies Devotional" section on the BLB, which will include two of your interests, Havergal and Elliot. It will include about 20 audio devotionals/messages by Elisabeth Elliot, for which we just received permission. And, some tiny devotionals like Havergal's Grasses and Rose Petals. They will be put up using ajax script, like this one. The link is not public yet. I am using ajax with two overlapping images for special effects, and the page doesn't come out right on Firefox unless/until you perform a refresh. Driving me crazy, I can't fix it! --Frank Rabinovitch 07:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Semiconductor curve tracer -- done!

David, check out Semiconductor curve tracer and see if it meets your expectations. If it does, you can take it off your "to-do" list. Otherwise, please feel free to [[WP:BB}be bold]] and expand and/or correct the article as you see fit. Atlant 01:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks - that's a very good start for the article, with nice pictures - though it does need some categories adding. I'd also be keen to add some details about the following models:

• Tektonix type 576 (solid state, but now obsolete)
• Sony-Tek types 370A and 371A (and their predecessors)

DFH 18:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

St. Paul

Dear Mr. Haslam, You may not have noticed but the references to the recent excavations, apart from being referred to briefly in the article on St. Paul are also cross referred to the article on St. Paul's Basilica. It would be easy to expand any part of the article, as St. Paul's influence was so great. However, it does seem to me that the excavations are marginal to the life and teaching of the apostle and I rather wonder at the inclusion of a subject which is parhaps important to the life of the Roman church, but less to the historical and doctrinal questions to which the article is devoted. Attempts have been made in recent weeks to shorten and clarify an article which the talk page calls 'a former good article'. Interesting though your edit may be I wonder if, given the cross reference, you would object to its being deleted? Roger Arguile 18:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC) PS As it stands it is not long, but as a separate heading I fear it will attach to itself a blow by blow account of the excavation business and will become a long tail.Roger Arguile 19:13, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your courteous approach, Roger. My additions were fairly modest — I only inserted "Excavations at the site began in 2002 and were completed November 2006. Archaeologists working for the Vatican have unearthed a sarcophagus containing what they believe are Paul's remains.", in place of "(The site was recently excavated.)". btw. Recently is not a suitable word in an encyclopedia article. The rest of the paragraph was already there, though did insert a sub-heading. I see no strong reason to delete, though I would agree that we should not continue to add to this sub-section details which are best placed in Basilica of Saint Paul Outside the Walls article. If we compare Paul to any other historical figure, it would seem odd to omit some coverage of his burial place, now that archaeology is shedding light on the facts (& extra-biblical traditions). Though the Church of Rome might see this as more important than would other Christian churches is perhaps beside the point. I reckon that many Protestants (such as I) will be intrigued by the news. DFH 19:33, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Category tags on REDIRECT pages

Hi, David!

Say, I just noticed that you slapped a category tag on Pólya-Burnside lemma. That caused the page to come up on the list of "new" mathematics articles, sending me on a wild goose chase after a "new" article that has been around for a long time.

Would you please explain the utility of categorizing REDIRECT pages? As far as I can see, such category tags serve no useful purpose whatsoever. All they really do is clutter up the category pages and make the automated lists of "math pages" a lot longer than they have to be. Thanks! DavidCBryant 01:49, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi David - fair question; to avoid repeating myself, please see Talk:Lax-Milgram lemma. DFH 19:24, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Second Great Awakening

I saw your comment and thought maybe better to respond to you in this venue as I've already made one in another part of the "Awakenings Revivalism combination controversey". I think part of the trouble here is that wikipedia is currently not making a distinction between England and America in its History of the Protestant Revivals and Awakenings. English and Americans number the revivals differently. Part of this is that we didn't have all of them at the same time. Factually the "First Great Awakening" in America is in the 1600s. The "Second Great Awakening" in America is the one they have here as the First Great Awakening, however that is only the name it is given in England, in America it is called The Second Great Awakening. So right now wikipedia has a big mess in the articles on Protestant Religious History, especially Revivals and Awakenings. Part of the problem here is that in the 1600s America was farther ahead in the area of Protestantism than England. John5Russell3Finley 03:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, which is duly noted. DFH 19:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

George Verwer

Hi! You added some stuff on George Verwer, do you know when he was born? or can you find this information somewhere? thanks -Sucrine ( ><> talk) 19:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't have the exact date, but the year would have been circa 1939. [8] DFH 21:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. If you find something more precise, please change it. -Sucrine ( ><> talk) 21:43, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

re: Dynex Semiconductor

I'd be grateful if you would undelete Dynex Semiconductor, which was a technological company stub that I was hoping to add some further information to. DFH 19:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I restored your first 2 edits, before copyvios were added. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 19:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Friendly suggestion: add a notability assertion so it doesn't get speedy-nom'd again (see Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)). Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 19:52, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Done - two references from independent sources cited a couple of days ago. DFH 16:37, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for adding some stuff about dynex semiconductor, I work there and it deserves a place on wikipedia :)

re: John Blanchard

I noticed you have added biblio info to this article. It appears the bulk of the article is copied from http://www.johnblanchard.org/ with only a few superficial changes. Rather than deleting the article, I've blanked the copyvio part and left a stub and your bibliography. If you are interested in the article perhaps you would like to rewrite a short bio. Thnx killing sparrows 05:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me. I have just tagged the first part with {{expandsection|biographical details}}. Not sure yet how soon I can get round to working on this. DFH 16:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Invitation

You are cordially invited to participate in WikiProject Calvinism The goal of WikiProject Calvinism is to improve the quality and quantity of information about Calvinism available on Wikipedia. WP:WikiProject Calvinism as a group does not prefer any particular tradition or denominination of Calvinism, but prefers that all Calvinist traditions are fairly and accurately represented.

--Flex (talk|contribs) 16:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind invitation, which I accept. My interests as a Wikipedian are wider than theology & church history, so I may not be as active in the project as perhaps you'd like. DFH 19:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Extrinsic semiconductor article

I noticed you are a regular editor of the Wikipedia semiconductor article and was wondering if you would mind checking out the article I created on extrinsic semiconductors. It is the first article I have written for Wikipedia, and I would appreciate some feedback and any suggestions on changes that should be made. Thanks!Adeut85 22:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I will have a look at that new page when I get time. Always sign talk page edits. DFH 18:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Duhamel's integral

Hello, David.

I noticed your edit to this page. Thanks for adding a link to an external source. Next time, please place a new external link in the "External links" or "References" section of the article. "See also" should be reserved for intra-wiki links. Thanks! DavidCBryant 11:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, David. My idea was for the redlink Duhamel's formula to be made into a proper article, thus obviating the need to retain the external link. However, it's not my area of expertise, so I hope someone else can pick up the thread. It was a reference to Duhamel's formula in a recent ESD/EOS paper given within NXP Semiconductors that made me curious enough to find out more. DFH 12:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Go Bible

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Go Bible, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Mattinbgn/ ^talk 20:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Earlier this evening, I have begun to list some reasons against the proposed deletion in the Talk:Go Bible page. It's getting late here, and tomorrow I will not be on-line, so it may be Friday before I get chance to continue improving the article. DFH 21:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Plymouth Brethren

you wrote:From my own experiences in the early 1970s, there were huge differences between the Taylorite Exclusive Brethren and other Darbyite brethren groups, herein referred to as Closed Brethren. Because of the leadership scandals, some people left the Taylor meetings and joined meetings of the Glanton Brethren or Kelly Brethren, etc. A lot of these earlier divisions among Closed Brethren were healed in the later 1970s. DFH 21:27, 15 June 2006 (UTC) rv, let them make a reasoned case for inclusion on the talk page) Hello!. But a hard problem with editors from these article is: The editions from users Rholton and Big DT are patently absurd. Him posted introduction requested citations,and deleted it when I posted it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eliecer (talk • contribs) . This page seems to be fairly inaccurate. It seems that you've mixed Plymouth Brethren with another seperate unrelated sect of Christianity also sometimes known as Brethren that was started in Scotland shortly after the PB movement by a group of Scottish Christians. Several theological and structual particularities that have been assigned to the PB movement in the article are unique to one or the other movement, but not to both. It is not uncommon for the two to be confused as the beginnings of the Brethren movement are fairly obscure compared to the PB movement, while both movements are quite similar in their present state. Still, gives me faith in Wikipedia as an accurate source of info!

This comment is interesting but confusing. Just what in particular in the main article is not accurate about the Plymouth Brethren? You have just caused confusion by saying it is inaacurate but not specifying what is in question.I have lived my entire life within the Open Brethren and find the article quite accurate. If you can identify particular information that is incorrect, you are very welcome to edit the main article in the Wkikki tradition with proper source documentation, or at least list list the corrections here for discussion. - S DuPlessie Closed Brethren are NO same people as Exclusive Brethren,and it are no same as Exclusivists. Encyclopedia Britannica says clearly there are 8(eight) branches from Brethren. And Closed/Open are NO same as Open/Closed Communion Brethren-another entirely different division-. But every reference to differences between closed and exclusives is deleted. And as usual you depends exclusively from USA sources. By example in Latin America,Open Brethren had more characteristiques similar to Closed,but no gives any role to Darby. Dispensationalism is no mentioned in the article.Here's an example of inaccuracy (under History): "Despite the disparate nature of the movement, adherents to the Plymouth Brethren are often generalized into two main categories: Open Brethren and Exclusive Brethren." Such generalisation is only by the uninformed. The Exclusive Brethren, for example, whilst admiiting their ancestory in the Plymouths, would not consider themselves a category of them. Personally, I think that, unless the Plymouths continue to exist as a speatate entity (I do not know of such an organisation), this article should not try to cover both sects. (Open and Exclusive) except as a referrring link to separate articles. Without such distinction being made, Wikipedia will not be a reliable source of information on either group: it is more likely to just encourage The Edit Wars. 203.173.3.110 07:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)drw

Hello Mister David Haslam: I´m an Evangelical Baptist from Venezuela, a country in South America, ruled by Dictator Hugo Chávez, a darling from dogmatic communists you fight against; but this time I want to tell you on another completly different issue: An Article in wikipedia on Plymouth Brethren falsely claim Closed P.B. are same group as Exclusive Brethren or Taylorites. Because you are a New Zealander, -by the way an University in your beautiful homeland had a Venezuelan Rector/President-, you must to know by first hand this is simply untruth. New Zealand had many Open, Closed P.B. congregations, and Exclusives are important as a religious (and in lesser grade as a political one also), group there. http:www.cultwatch.org is a ministry by baptists and presbyterians evangelizing to Exclusives. My mother is a Closed Plymouth Brethren, her group NEVER talk on Taylor or teach any doctrine linked to him. I work as columnist/colaborator for a Spanish Closed Brethren Magazine, Gethsemaní, led by Joan Soler i Rius. I have tried to fix it, but many users delete my work, my references to sources and links proving this. I think there are political reasons behind it, because Exclusives- nowithstanding any heresy a Christian can find in them- are supporters and endorsing right-wing politicians and candidates. This situation ofuscate and irritate so much to comunists, that these people tries to create guilt by association on Closed Brethren. Help me with the article please.

At the present time, I don't have any new information to add to these and related articles. DFH 10:45, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

wrong on Harry Ironside

Your edits on Harry Ironside are unright, because Harry was P.B. I will post him in the list, please no delete his name this time.

Just go ahead and update the article with corrected facts - and please always sign your talk page edits with four tilde. DFH 09:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)