User talk:Dascyllus

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Haikubox (January 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by EchidnaLives was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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echidnaLives - talk - edits 03:24, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Dascyllus! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! echidnaLives - talk - edits 03:24, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Haikubox (July 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ca was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

For example, "Haikubox supports community science and seeks to improve environmental literacy and stewardship by helping people learn and care about birds. The Haikubox website and smartphone apps include images of identified bird species, sound recording clips, spectrograms (a visual representation of sound), summary and detailed bird vocalization data, and connections to authoritative ornithological websites including eBird and All About Birds." is not neutral at all. I see that you found reviews of this technology. Quote those reviews instead.

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Ca ^{talk to me!} 11:25, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Haikubox (November 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by GraziePrego was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Haikubox and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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GraziePrego (talk) 01:20, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Haikubox (November 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by GraziePrego was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Citation needed for last statement, and also the images appear to be broken.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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GraziePrego (talk) 05:52, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Haikubox has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Haikubox. Thanks! WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 01:21, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Haikubox (November 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

I'm sorry, but the evidence of notability just isn't there. Of the five sources cited, #1 is the company's website, #3-4 are papers that don't even mention Haiku, and #5 is an award notice. Only #2 contributes towards WP:GNG notability, but it alone isn't enough.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:21, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Haikubox has been accepted

Haikubox, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:07, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion discussion about Haikubox

Hello Dascyllus, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.

While your contributions are appreciated, I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Haikubox, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haikubox.

Deletion discussions usually run for seven days and are not votes. Our guide about effectively contributing to such discussions is worth a read. The most common issue in these discussions is notability, but it's not the only aspect that may be discussed; read the nomination and any other comments carefully before you contribute to the discussion. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

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Andre🚐 09:34, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We also posted this as a reply to the list of Software-related deletion discussions, so apologies if this is a duplication.

Thanks for the opportunity to participate in this discussion.

We agree that the two articles mentioned by the editor do not reference Haikubox, but did not mean to suggest that they did. Our intention in including them was to show that passive acoustic monitoring (PAM) and the inclusion of machine learning with PAM is becoming a more well-established scientific method for studying animals without impacting their behavior, and can be done in a low-cost, scalable way. This provides an introduction to the bioGraphic article and how the author believed Haikubox fits with these efforts. We would be happy to fix the wording if it is found to be misleading.

We included the Github page for anyone wishing to check the open source BirdNET project.

We listed the unbiased Haikubox reviews that were posted in birding magazines (Audubon Magazine, Birdwatching Magazine), news stories about Haikubox (Axios, Sarasota Herald Tribune), and WIRED articles which included Haikubox. The original WIRED review was in no way routine coverage -- it was selected for review by the reporter who then independently tested it. In the huge consumer electronics market, very few products are selected for testing by WIRED, so we believe it is notable that it was not only selected, but received a high rating, something we did not tout in the Wikipedia article. We also believe that it is not routine to be included in an even more selective group of products that were so highly considered, they were endorsed for their annual Wish List.

Please note that we had no input into the content of any of these reviews or news articles.

We chose not to include articles, blogs, mention in a recent book about bird conservation, or reviews posted by individual Haikubox customers, feeling that they did not meet Wikipedia's standards. Had we included them, the REFBOMB notation would have been justified. Instead, we included only those in notable, reputable, independent sources.

We again thank you for considering this during the deletion review process, and would be happy to answer any additional questions. We are committed to improving our Wikipedia entry and will update it with notable new information and publications as they are released. Dascyllus (talk) 22:48, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]