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Admin help

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{{adminhelp}} What help are you looking for?  Frank  |  talk  12:42, February 2010 (UTC)

He has been editing an article in a most rejectable manner for a long time now.If i recall correctly he had in the past broken it from its redirect and kept in name-form other than its corresponding tribe. Also removes referenced data and pov-pushes. ardian. Megistias (talk) 12:57, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question for administrator ==

Adminstrator, frankly I don't understand why is megistias deleting my contributions to the text entitled "Ardian".

I absolutely don't see in which way my contributions to the text offend anyone in any way or violate the rules and regulations of Wikipedia.

Contrary to my contributions, the actions of megistias I find indeed rude and lacking basic manners. If he disagrees with something, at least he should inform me about it and we could discuss the issue, but just deleting my entire contribution is, sorry, but at least impolite and inconsiderate behaviour.

Most importantly, many of my friends and I consider his editions to be politically biased and indirectly discriminatory (Anti-Albanian).

Why does he have such a desperate urge to stress that Ardian is "one of those imaginary" Illyrian names?

I find this word ('imaginary') in particular to be rude an undermining a culture which he is not part of. His "contributions" to the text look more like criticism and undermining of Albanian culture than informative text, which I belive is the mission of Wikipedia.

I mean, do Albanians really need the permission of megistias in order to present their culture to the world, wiht all the references included?

The only part of the history that megistias "allows" in this text is the part saying that modern Albanian names are forced into people by communist regime.

Firstly, that's political and unethical interference.

Secondly, he imposes a part true statement, not allowing the whole truth to be told, for the communisam has long vanished from Albanian, and yet, the majortiy of Albanians STILL prefer Illyrian names, or names made up of words identified by those that deal with Illyrian studies as Illyrian.

WHY DOESN'T HE ALLOW MY OR ANY OTHER SIMILAR ADDITIONS TO THE TEXT?

I PROVIDED REFERENCES TO MY ADDITIONS, AND HE NEVERTHELESS REMOVED THEM. WHY?


What's a problem with that?

Frankly, the only persons I see as having problems with my contributions to the text would be persons discriminating against Albanians. I franklY see no other reason.

Thus, a question to the Administrator:

Would you kindly assist in identifying why my contributions to "Ardian" are being continuously deleted by megistias and why some anti-albanian, or at least albanaian-undermining language is being allowed in the megistias' "contributions" to the text?


I would be more than grateful for your unbiesed and fair-play assistance in solving this problem that has been lasting for quite some time now.

Thank you in advance

Daesitiates

Your best bet is to discuss this on the talk page of the article in question. Since Ardiaean is being redirected to List of ancient tribes in Illyria, you should probably discuss it at Talk:List of ancient tribes in Illyria.  Frank  |  talk  14:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, this is not an administrator matter. You need to discuss it and reach a WP:CONSENSUS at the talk page(s) of the article(s) in question.  Frank  |  talk  15:00, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page of articles

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There is a talk page in Ardian, the given article. You never used it once, in the span of years. Megistias (talk) 17:12, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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Thanks indeed for the advice.

So, I was going to say to megistias that the fact I didn't use the talk page on Ardian does not mean I didn't want to.I am just not as skillful in using Wikipedia as others, so i appologize if I caused any inconvenience. People from the older generatio are not so skillful, and certainly not malevolent as some may think.

So,let's cooperate and see what we can do.

(Daesitiates (talk) 17:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC)).[reply]

User:Daesitiates/Ardian

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Now that you have started the article you wish to create in your own user space, we can work on improving it and perhaps moving some of it to the main article. Let's start by having a discussion on the article's talk page at User talk:Daesitiates/Ardian. I've already left some comments.

Also, there's no need to keep referring to your age or that of other users. It's really irrelevant. If you want to edit Wikipedia, there are certain things that just have to be done, regardless of how old or inexperienced you are. You can certainly ask for (and receive) help, but you must put some amount of effort in yourself as well.  Frank  |  talk  17:35, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Frank,


I believe that I managed to produced a text that complies with your advice, based on the rules and regulations of Wikipedia, and that's my proposal for now. It's on "User page: Daesitiates/Ardian", so we can take it from there.

--Daesitiates (talk) 20:34, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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