User talk:Daanschr/Archive 2007

Islamic Courts

The reason I put that the Islamic courts lost power in 2006 was that as per Islamic Courts Union#Resignation of Leadership the leadership resigned on December 27 and lost control of the capital in late December. I think it would be misleading to say that the Islamic Courts were still in any way the state leader of Somalia at the beginning of 2007 as a result. Davewild 18:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is a good one.--Daanschr 18:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

al-Khwārizmī

Hi. Arab Empire is actually a disambiguation page, so we shouldn't link there. As Ali Doostzadeh pointed out, "We can replace it with Abbassid empire, but Khwarizm had a Persian based dialect as described by Biruni." Cheers, Khoi khoi 06:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of states by date of self-determination

Hello. I hope you don't take my deletion proposal personally. (please see WP:OWN). I believe the retention of three separate articles on in effect the same topic is a display of a break down in the wikipedia conflict resolution process. Even if statehood, independence and self-determination might have slightly different academic definitions. We are supposed to work togeather to create one article of supreme quality for the benefit of the readers. If we disagree on the way to get there we can't just split up. Now we have three articles displaying a slightly different wiev on the same topic. So I took the initiative to get back to just one article again. Inge 11:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't take it personally, but i do hope that the data can be spared. I want to put it on my user page. It doesn't matter to me much if this article is not accepted anymore on the regular Wikipedia.--Daanschr 11:33, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Risks to civilization

Hi, your inclusion of the "Bush adminstration" to Human sources of risk was undone. I had actually been working on rationale and references for your inclusion and undid-the-undo so that I could post my work. We'll see how long it lasts. The references are pertinant and I tried not to venture into the realm of the unreasonably inflammatory. However, any criticism on these matters appears to be such (being an economic/political topic). It will be interesting to see if it stays up, or is removed again. - Steve3849 ^talk 21:31, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It lasted 3.5 hours; I personally will not be reposting or posing this to discussion. If you are interested my contribution can be found in the history completed 21:34, 26 July 2007. - Steve3849 ^talk 02:46, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the disappearing text... I asked at the help desk and was directed to this page... User:John_Broughton/Editor's_Index_to_Wikipedia#His at which I found this page... Wikipedia:Selective deletion. It does not necessarily require outside hacking. The page states such actions can be administrative. As you stated, it would be then "censorship" nonetheless. - Steve3849 ^talk 10:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC) Post script: The help desk has since pointed out the edit in question was simply removed by a non-logged in user and not by "selective deletion" as I suggested. - Steve3849 ^talk 17:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will put the information back. Not because i want to guard it persé. I started it as a joke, the whole article on threats to civilization is a joke. Still, i don't like outside attacks and deletions by anonymous users. It is a small effort to make a user adress.--Daanschr 17:45, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Death, Desire and Loss in Western Culture

Hi, thanks for letting me know, I've removed it from 'Death in the United States'. Kurieeto 14:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP

I'm not sure what you mean.....Traditional unionist 11:43, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, that's probably a little above the level of activity on wikipedia that I'n involved in! Sorry.Traditional unionist 11:56, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Wikiproject

Hi. I'm not sure what this recruitment agency is, but I guess I'll participate, as long as I won't have so much to do that I'll be needed when I'm busy doing something else off-wiki. I'm not sure exactly what your project does. Are you asking me to join in the list of participants on that project? I do wish I had time to do more on my project, although there is so much to do and so little to do at the same time, that what results is procrastination...and more procrastination. Maybe I don't know what to finish first, or I don't have enough time at that time to finish those individual tasks. How does your project help in improving Wikiprojects? Does it provide its participants with instructions on how to improve your Wikiproject, or the like? I'm still not quite decided on what your project does, so I guess I'll request more information. I'm still not very experienced in conducting a WikiProject, and yes, it is still in its early stages. I'm still a bit confused about what the participants do --- do they read what they could do, get assigned individual tasks or requests, etc? I would like some help on improving my WikiProject, and be more actively involved in it to help improve articles. Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 00:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

These are very good questions Astrohurricane. I have to tell you something about myself and my intentions in order to make myself clear. I have started two WikiProjects, both of them failed due to lack of participance.

The first one was WikiProject intellectual debate, which i deleted. This project was aimed at improving the quality of debate in talk pages. I wanted people to first read a couple of relevant books (books often contradict eachother, so they shouldn't read only one) and than have a debate about them, before editing. At the moment edits are done most often without reading books and without any debates.

Another WikiProject was WikiProject historical atlas. Aiming to create a historical atlas like a video, with countries and borders evolving. Despite the wide possibilities i could only find two other persons to make this, and now there hasn't been any activity for more than half a year. I really want to start that WikiProject up again. It could be linked to WikiProject intellectual debate with people watching maps and reading books in libraries all over the world and special themes being discussed during a month, something like the borders of medieval Serbia, or one of Napoleon's military campaigns.

A recruiting agency could be helpful in achieving a level of participance. What i am trying to reach is a base of commited people who are willing to start and develop projects. Not only participance is needed, but also commitment and quality. We are dealing with volunteers, so it is important that people have time and are enthusiastic about the project. The recruiting agency is focused at getting these kind of people. Experts on subjects are very welcome, because they know much about the relevance of information, where to find the right information and how this information can be analysed correctly. Of course there are many subjects where every human is enough of an expert.--Daanschr 08:20, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thank you for your reply, but there are still a few things I don't yet get. How do I help make my project a success? Do I add my name into the list of participants in your project? Does my project get listed on a page where interested people could find which project to join? If I participate, what exactly do I, and the participants of my WikiProject do? Do we follow the to-do list, help improve the project in general, discuss what to do, etc? Where are the volunteers going to come from, and how do they discover your project and WikiProjects in need of a firm base of participants and experts? Is the project to be worked on whenever time is avalible? What do I do now? Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 17:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My initial idea behind it was that the recruiters will focus on a few WikiProjects at a time. These WikiProjects will have their own active participants who will run the WikiProject seperately from the recruitment project once their are enough participants found. The recruitment project tries to find the best ways to recruit and make a WikiProject to a succes. The participants of a WikiProject will get self-responsibility eventually. WikiProjects that weren't a succes can be taken in by the recruitment project again to find new active participants. Given that the recruitment project becomes a succes, there will be a tricky part. People within the management department will have to decide which projects are worthwhile to be managed in order to find recruits. There can be several reasons for managing a wikiProject with the purpose of finding new participants. It could be a marketing strategy (more participants), effectivity (durability, expansion, use of a WikiProject), enthusiasm of the people behind the WikiProject (can be measured by the effort put behind the idea). The tricky part will be the politics behind it.

I didn't directly answer your questions above. The most important thing the recruitment department will do is to find volunteers. Management of the WikiProject is primarily self-management, in my view. If the right volunteers have been found, than they should be capable of making a WikiProject a succes for themselves.

John Carter, a new participant, has other ideas about the recruitment project. We have to examine all ideas for their effectivity and usefulness, including mine of course.

What can you do now? If you want to join the recruitment project, than you can think about what the management department can do, or try to find new participants for the recruitment project. That are the tasks for the moment. If you want the recruitment project to find participants for your WikiProject (Dinotopia), than we have to find a way to make that work. If the recruitment project runs, than the mangers could set recruiters for the task to find the right recruits for the WikiProject Dinotopia. However, the recruitment project doesn't have recruiters yet.--Daanschr 18:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Oh I see, so your project needs to expand and get more volunteers before it can be developed enough to help get more editors for my project and improve it. If I am to help get more people to join the recruitment project, where do I post? Do I post on some kind of "Wikipedia:" page to notify other editors of this project, or on someone's usertalkpage who is interested? Or, is it more complicated than that to have an exact idea of what needs to be done? If it works, when would my WikiProject start improving? If I join your project, do I simply add myself to the list of participants, or are there different places to show participatemanship on individual departments? Do the people involved get a to-do list, periodical newsletters, etc? Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 21:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Some of these topics are debated at the moment in the talk page of the recruitment project. My remarks on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject recruitment for WikiProjects#Management and authority can give some answers to your questions. I see recruitment as unlimited, you could recruit the person sitting next to you in public transport for instance. The whole methodology of the project has to be determined as yet in cooperation with other members. You are not obliged to join the recruitment project if you want to focus on your own project, but it will take effort to convince participants of the recruitment project to choose for a WikiProject, since there is a limit in the commitment of participants to this project.--Daanschr 21:44, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Well, thank you. Well, I kinda don't know what to say, lol. But yeah, tell me what ever you need, and I'll do it. Oh yeah, and by the way, you can call me Paul. J p G r B 20:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, Paul McCartney on my talk page, what an honour!!!--Daanschr 20:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Too bad that you can't sign an autograph for me :-( --Daanschr 20:47, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am so sorry, I am not he, but I was named after him. I have had this pointed out to me. And I would just like to say one more time: I am not Sir Paul McCartney. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JpGrB (talk • contribs) 23:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, actually, you would get bored stalking little ol' me. Lol. And the only reason I had to clear this up was because someone thought I was actually claiming to be him. When in actuality, I was named after him. And just as he is James Paul, and goes by simply Paul, I do also. J p G r B 21:29, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Satu Suro

Ah de neerlanders - I never did get the hang of the dutch puns/word play when I lived in Java- :) - sorry I have no beatle associations apart from my tagging of the monty python project yesterday ( I believe george helped fund some of their films ) - will try to help, where possible Satu Suro 23:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its been a hard days night - and the text is a bit off the top of someones head - have started - will look again later this weekend - cheers Satu Suro 09:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

wah malu sekali (pardon my indonesian) I hadnt realised I was being rude to another editor - my problem is I havent read through yours and Johns and el greco comments on the project talk page carefully enough yet - I need to see where you folks are coming from on all of this - I come from having tagged articles ( I just dislike red 'discussion tags at the tope of pages so much - it is a sign of an orphan article or category for a start ) and sheer disbelief that others have not sufficiently engineered their projects to have assessment geared in - this is where in the australia project - cj and longhair are brilliant in their helping setting up subdsidiary projects to the parent australia project - generous and clever to boot! Satu Suro 09:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for that - I'll check it out soon Satu Suro 10:06, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thankyou for your invite to the agency. I have, however, decided against creating that wikiproject since it overlaps quite a bit with various exsisting wikiprojects, especially wikiproject Visual Arts and wikiproject Textiles. I thought I had taken it off the page. But thanks a lot anyway. I am a lemon 22:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure

I'm not sure if your terrorism comment is strictly true, but I do see that someone has stuck a "fact" thingie on ie. I don't think you can prove the statement. Historically, some very small groups of people have been very bloodthirsty. I'm not going to delete it.Wowest 17:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking

I was not threatening you as I do not have the ability to block you or anyone else. I was warning you and the anon IP that sticking {{hoax}} tags on religious articles is vandalism and vandalism will get you blocked. I have never been accused of bias due to my country of residence or any personal beliefs. Have a look at the even handedness of my edits. FYI, I am neither a fundalmentalist nor an "American" in the sense that you used that term. Best - SECisek (talk) 18:31, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They don't here exempt religion from free speech here either. The issue here is your restoration of the tag. You put the wrong tag on the article. The existance of Jesus Christ may well have been a hoax, but the article itself about what Christians belive is in no way a hoax. Perhaps there is misunderstanding on your part about the terminology as you have said English is not you first language. The tag was removed for a reason - you should not restore it.

You also could be blocked in the future for not following Wikipedia:No personal attacks - you may want to reread that policy before you respond again. Best. -- SECisek (talk) 18:46, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A factual dispute does not constitute a hoax. It is an uncited statement, not a hoax. If there is a point that you feel is wrong put the {{fact}} tag next the statement. The tag you used is only for hoaxes. Again, it may a language problem. It would be easier to resolve if you had not led with a personal attack on me. This is from the policy cited above:

“

There is no bright-line rule about what constitutes a personal attack as opposed to constructive discussion, but some types of comments are never acceptable:

Racial, sexual, homophobic, ageist, religious, political, ethnic, or other epithets (such as against people with disabilities) directed against another contributor. Disagreement over what constitutes a religion, race, sexual preference, or ethnicity is not a legitimate excuse.

Using someone's affiliations as a means of dismissing or discrediting their views -- regardless of whether said affiliations are mainstream or extreme.

”

Take care in the future not to violate this. SECisek (talk) 19:03, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on my talk. -- SECisek (talk) 19:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC) Replied on my talk. -- SECisek (talk) 19:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

YOU BLINKED!!! I WIN!

I am just joking. I think the situation has been resolved. I enjoyed our banter. Best. -- SECisek (talk) 19:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Animated Gif

I used the Photoshop program to create the animated gif. Then using just a map from Wikipedia I charted every "major" development in the Balkan region. There are many tutorials on how to do this in photoshop -- Esemono (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 06:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]