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Happy editing! DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Institute of Insurance and Risk Management (July 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Pure advertising, with zero evidence of notability.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, CuriousExplorerJourney! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DoubleGrazing, Thank you for reviewing the article. I will work on refining its content to ensure it does not appear promotional, however, this college's distinguished reputation in India. CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 12:06, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, CuriousExplorerJourney. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Institute of Insurance and Risk Management, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template)—don't forget to give details of reliable sources supporting your suggestions;
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:50, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DoubleGrazing, I have reviewed the Wikipedia guidelines regarding conflict of interest and can assert that none apply to me. CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 12:02, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So how would you describe your relationship to this company, in your own words? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your question. Just to clarify, this is not a company but rather a college based in India. I do not have any association or connection with this college. I hope this clarifies any confusion. CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 12:10, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I meant to say 'organisation', my bad.

Okay, let me ask it this way: how did you choose this as your first (and so far only) topic to write about? There was presumably a reason? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, there was a reason behind my choice to write about this topic initially. I chose this topic because it aligns closely with my professional expertise in Insurance. I look forward to exploring a broader range of topics as well to edit and create. CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 12:17, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You uploaded the photograph, and the logo, as your own work? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, there wasn't an SVG logo available online, so I recreated it using an SVG Editor - Inkscape and then uploaded it. The photograph is a screenshot taken from a video published on IIRM website. CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 12:28, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So neither is your own work, then? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:35, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I created the SVG version of the logo. Also, just to add, Wikipedia does not allow adding copyrighted logo by users with less than certain number of edits, hence, I could not upload it in the copyrighted section. I don't own the photo, its a screenshot from the video. CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 12:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reason why copyrighted material cannot be uploaded is that it is in most cases illegal to do so. The workaround is not to pretend that it is your own work instead. If you faithfully recreate someone else's copyrighted design, that is still their copyright. You have now released the institute's proprietary trade mark into the public domain. I expect they wouldn't be very happy if they knew.

The same goes for the photo.

I will request for both to be deleted. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:43, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, but would you let me know, how are the logos of various organizations added to articles, so that, I can follow the proper process for uploading images and logos? CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 12:45, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a provision called 'fair use', which allows low-resolution logos to be used in published articles on the entity to which the logo relates. This does not apply in the draft space, so logos should only be added after the draft is published in the main article space.

And just so we're clear on this, you may not upload anything as your own work, unless it actually is that. When you upload your own work, you are agreeing to release your proprietary rights in that work into the public domain, and clearly you cannot do that with someone else's property. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:52, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Understood! Thank you for clarifying the provisions regarding fair use and the guidelines for uploading content. CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 12:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Institute of Insurance and Risk Management (July 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by AlphaBetaGamma were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Still promotional, and poorly sourced.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 15:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello ABG, thanks for reviewing. I have mentioned references from various reliable and credible sources:

IRDAI - Regulatory body
AICTE - Statutory body
Swiss Re Website - Reinsurance company based in Switzerland
Risk and Insurance Management Society
Business Today - Business magazine
Chartered Insurance Institute - Professional body for Insurance
The Print - News media
Insurance Institute of India - Apex body for Insurance
Institute of Actuaries of India - Apex body for Actuaries

Further, please indicate the sections that appear to be promotional, so that, I can make the changes accordingly. CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 16:23, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have made certain changes and I am submitting the article for review. CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 04:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Institute of Insurance and Risk Management (July 15)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

The only new source added since the previous decline is the Business Today ranking one, which contributes precisely nothing towards notability. The author needs to read and understand the WP:ORG notability guideline, and provide evidence that this is satisfied. None of the sources currently cited contribute towards this.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Institute of Insurance and Risk Management and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Double Grazing! Thank you for your feedback. I understand the concerns you've raised about the sources provided. I will carefully review the WP notability guidelines and work on gathering more substantial sources that clearly demonstrate the organization's notability. Your input is valuable, and I appreciate your guidance in ensuring the article meets Wikipedia's standards. Please let me know if there are any specific types of sources or information you believe would be helpful to include. CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 10:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Institute of Insurance and Risk Management (July 15)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by S0091 was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please read through the linked information in the decline notice above. The vast majority of sources are primary which includes press releases and cannot be used to establish notability, nor can routine coverage.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Institute of Insurance and Risk Management and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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S0091 (talk) 19:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that, there are several press releases, however, there are mentions on websites of organizations that in my opinion are significant and more reliable than press releases. Specifically, some of these organizations have accredited the institute. Additionally, the institute is promoted, owned, and operated by the Insurance Regulatory and Development Authority of India (IRDAI), which further underscores its credibility. We can discuss this further in the talk page CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 12:09, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Institute of Insurance and Risk Management (August 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

See WP:COI.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Institute of Insurance and Risk Management and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Greenman (talk) 08:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Greenman, I have gone through the Wikipedia guidelines on conflict of interest and can assure you that none of these guidelines pertain to my situation in any way. CuriousExplorerJourney (talk) 08:41, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]