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Tony Hayward

I hate to keep reverting your edits, but please find something not at all connected to YouTube. It needs to be a secondary source from a reliable publication with a history for fact checking and editorial control. So, is there a publication that published the text of his speech? Was the speech (or parts of it) quoted in a magazine article? Thanks. QueenofBattle (talk) 16:07, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

And, I'd ask you to consider including it in the BP article, rather than in Hayward's BLP. While he said it (purportedly), it is a statement about the company's corporate responsibility stance not his personal stance. QueenofBattle (talk) 16:24, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Just to comment that we did find something for that edit of the TH article, as U Penn kept public domain copies of the videos of business school lectures. Thx to QofB for help with that! Createangelos (talk) 00:26, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

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Thx for the explanation! Createangelos (talk) 18:55, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Arthur, thx for your helpful edit to the Math article. Createangelos (talk) 00:27, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

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In case anyone needs to verify the radio program referred to in the dead link in the Weldon Angelos case I'm keeping a .ogg file now that the radio program website is off the air. Createangelos (talk) 00:24, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Createangelos

Hi Createangelos. I noticed you created a Requests for Adminship page some time ago; I was wondering as to what the status of that request might be. I think it's fair to warn you that new users are rarely successful at RfA and that the Wikipedia editing community sets very high standards for editors running for adminship. That being said, I strongly urge you to read Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship, User:Davidwr/Administration is not for new users, and Wikipedia:Not now, and ask you to reconsider whether you really do wish to go through with your candidacy; please understand that you stand very little to no chance of passing RfA at this point and that you are strongly discouraged from running for adminship. If you are still intent on running for adminship with that request and are absolutely positive this is what you want, please do let me know; otherwise, I'll go ahead and delete the RfA page for you in about a week or so from today. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:02, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

"in fact I do not know much at all about doing admin-type things" That statement alone will automatically fail you at RfA. !Voters will not hand mops out based on speculation that a user who has never participated in admin areas will succeed at it. Wikipedia takes adminship very seriously and only after displaying that you can be successful in admin areas will you succeed at RfA. I strongly urge you to not proceed with the RfA. However, if you choose to completely ignore my advice and go ahead with it, you will need to transclude your RfA at WP:RFA by following the instructions at WP:RFA/N. Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:32, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Since you used an analogy, I'll use one, too. For the part of my reply you did not understand, think of adminship as a presidency for a second. You are running for office, but you have no political experience. You have never been a senator, or representative, or even mayor. Will anyone vote for you based solely on what you say you will do? Probably not. See WP:TRANSCLUDE for a detailed explanation as to what that term means here. Again, I suggest you not run, but of course it is entirely up to you. Eagles 24/7 (C) 01:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I won't delete it, but don't say I didn't warn you if/when your RfA does not go to plan. You may want to look at other unsuccessful RfAs just from this month to see how high the standards are here: Wikipedian2 2, Wilbysuffolk, ZooPro 4, Rehman 3, and SilverSoul91911. Here is the only successful RfA from this month and you may also want to peruse it as well: Salvio giuliano. To put things in perspective, you currently have 186 edits to your name, while at my successful RfA, I had over 17,000 edits. Eagles 24/7 (C) 01:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I believe that one day you will be a great admin. However, at the moment, you are not experienced enough to succeed at RfA (see WP:NOTNOW). You have a lot of philosophical analogies and insight in the reply on my talk page, and I hate to break it to you (although it was an interesting read), there isn't supposed to be much of that by becoming an admin. The administrator's job on Wikipedia is equal to that of a janitor in that we just clean up messes. And BTW, in order to delete an image you uploaded to Commons, you would have to be an admin at Commons. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:50, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If you want to see what you're up against, do have a read of this and follow all the links in it. Then see the successful RfA of a broadly experienced editor with a high edit count, that could have badly misfired. Your one main advantage is that you have not been around enough to gather any detractors, but with only 187 edits I'm afraid you don't stand a chance. If you need any help with any of the aspects that Eagles has kindly pointed out, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

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Malala Yousafzai

Hey, the Talk page on the article is pretty crowded. I was hoping we could address the neutrality issue together. I'd like to know your concerns so that I can address the issue and you can remove the tags. Could you elaborate on it? Fortibus (talk) 16:21, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

References

Please use high quality references per WP:MEDRS such as review articles or major textbooks. Note that review articles are NOT the same as peer reviewed articles. A good place to find medical sources is TRIP database Thanks.

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(confused: Hepatology 25 pp638-642 is a review article?)Createangelos (talk) 01:50, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

This is a primary source [2] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 02:15, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Question for administrator

Hi,

I tried to nominate Richard_William_Paul for deletion, but the line I added seems to be in a strange place, I hope I have not corrupted the entire deletion log somehow! Can you check for me? --Createangelos (talk) 16:46, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

No. you haven't mucked things up, but to nominate a page you have to do more than just put an entry in that log list. I have removed it, so that you are now back at square one and can start again. The instructions are at WP:AFDHOWTO. Ping me (any time in the next 2 hours or so) if you need help. JohnCD (talk) 19:50, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Rubbish

What is that rubbish you added to Collective animal behavior about? It raises questions about your competency, and whether you should be editing here at all. --Epipelagic (talk) 21:34, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

(my reply on Epipelagic's page):Hi Epipelagic,

It was indeed rubbish, thanks for deleting it! I found another link http://www.math.chalmers.se/~olleh/U18.pdf however Google Translate will not translate it.

I hope yr revert was for the best reasons (bec it was rubbish and not bec you're not npov).

The criticism in the Swedish reference may be better; it seems that at one time the subject of collective animal behaviour was considered by a few practising zoologists and mathematicians to be based on the discredited 'systems theory,' while a proponent writes "my primary vision for the future is the further use of technology and mathematics for finally doing ‘systems biology’. "

OK so what do you advise, myself going on a single-handed intellectual quest to learn all this stuff? I wish you'd left that stub in place. Comment please.Createangelos (talk) 22:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

PS I have to say, I was a little apprehensive seeing in recent talk page discussions that someone accused you of thinking that rivers constitute swarm intelligence -- but was quite reassured to learn that the idea is that nature can bring advances to the subject of computer science, not the other way around. Well done, I'm genuinely impressed. So now how about some comments about how to proceed with the fact that 'collective animal behaviour' promotes what seems to be a single theory and is missing any criticism section....Createangelos (talk) 23:53, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I have replied to this on the article's talk page --Epipelagic (talk) 19:53, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Broadcom and Broadcom Limited

I noticed you have contributed to articles on Broadcom Corporation and/or Broadcom Limited. Just a quick note that there is a discussion here about whether or not Broadcom should be a disambiguation page or refer solely to Broadcom Corporation. Cheers! ^{Talk to} SageGreenRider 17:47, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Broadcom (disambiguation) AfD?

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Could I ask for your vote on whether the total individual child sexual abuse allegations against Michael Jackson should be noted on his Wiki page? Regards, Hammelsmith (talk) 06:38, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

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100 percent agree with you on Jerry Sandusky

I added my own suggestion for a "Wrongful Conviction Belief's" section. It appears that your suggestions did not gain traction. Is it worth another try given that Ziegler put out the ultimate summary with his With The Benefit of Hindsight podcast? And Dr. Spanier's book is also helpful but he was certainly not forceful enough. Dr. Spanier's take down of the Freeh report was quite good. Anyhow, I have no clue as to protocols etc. on Wikipedia. I just want to state I thought your summary was excellent and there definitely needs to be a wrongful conviction section. Wikinovice1 (talk) 20:23, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi, a judge is thinking about the issues as we write, at this very moment. One thing is, Wikipedia can be sharply ironic. The section about subsequent accusations which says something like that 'one source' says Sandusky was trafficking porn, etc, are like what on Reddit are called 'crickets.'

I actually have some correspondence with Andreozzi from the time of the trial. It is strangely paradoxical, as he writes in response to questions I never asked.

I tend to object to Lindsay and Barden taking an adversarial position or talking about corruption. This is my current public position about the trial and the role of media:

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    I do understand that,  in for example a case of a defendant charged with violent use of a weapon, it is possible to describe the forensic and biological, or even scientific evidence, such as DNA evidence, very clearly, and to write decisions which, when reported by journalists later, can include some elements of unmistakable fact. And, almost always, I have a sense that there is some legal mechanism by which the facts of the case, at this basic, measurable, biological level, are implicitly agreed by both parties.

       It would be, just, awfully unsatisfactory for a decision to be written which said, for example, that a witness said that a suspect has stabbed a victim through the pancreas with an 8 inch serrated knife, causing insulin shock, while the defense says, the victim is fine, has never been stabbed, and has an intact pancreas.

      Depending on the jury findings, the subsequent reporting could include mistruth, unless the decision were complete and clear in its explanation.

      In the case of the Commonwealth vs Sandusky, the facts of the case were very clearly established, in the original trial, in Dersham's report about victim 1 (AF), in school reports, later in what the mother of AF wrote in a published book, what is in the Moulton report, and what was even reported in the press by Sara Ganim, that among other intimacies, Jerry Sandusky had repeatedly put his mouth on AF's lower stomach above the waistband, and had put his hand upon AF's back below the waistband, and had telephoned the then child many times and spoken with him.

       Leaving aside for the moment a notion that other un-admitted activities may have taken place, these particular activities are remarkable in that they were repeatedly agreed by all parties to have taken place.

       The Costas interview may be deemed a confession that these activities were committed along with a 'love to be around young people'.

       Regarding journalism, you may not remember, but Andreozzi very faithfully reported his client's position to the media. While charged with obtaining the best settlement for his client, he was transparent about how his client was testifying on behalf of the oral sex which had occurred to AF, and which he was informed about during the interview which was tape recorded in Mr. Andreozzi's benificent presence.  This is to protect anyone else from the thrusting and forceful wrestling moves or rape which had not, though, occurred to himself.

     Now to my main point, I think that Chris Barden would commit a serious violation if he interpreted the emails among Fina and other prosecutors as what he called pornography. They were things like playboy. The hypothesis that Cleland wanted a conviction is as wrong as Cleland's protestation of innocence about it is right. In fact, McGettigan had made it clear that there will be no specific accusation of an action of abuse occurring at any definable time. This to Joe Amendola, and maybe to Cleland, surely to me and the public, seemed then to be a rising lava well of innuendo, with no way to stop it, which threatened Jerry Sandusky's right to a fair trial. Cleland said that, he said, Jerry Sandusky has a right to a timely trial.

The issue about the playboy type of 'porn' is that it equates nakedness with sexuality; and some people like Feudale said in their correspondence, Sandusky is obviously a terrible person preying on children for sexual reasons. But none of the main players were corrupt like that. For Lindsay to say that Cleland writing that the defense has not found valid grounds of appeal was not a message to his successor, it was the truth, and a truth the defense needed to hear.

A possibility is that some of the confirmation bias Barden writes about may be because paedophiles do exist, and while their condition may not affect their life, it may affect their judgement. It is an agreed fact of the case that Sandusky when accompanied by a boy usually had his free hand on the boy's knee, but never anywhere else.  A car driver might think, this is safer than wrapped around the shoulders, in case of an emergency, the hand can be brought to the wheel. But a biological paedophile might be distracted by their condition and attribute a motive based not on proximity to the steering wheel but proximity to the main body of the child.

This too, for the focus on the mouth on the stomach of AF and others, when it was less often on the stomach than other places.

Regarding the original AG, campaigning for governor, he said he has a record of convicting suspected paedophiles. One needn't search for secret corruption of any secret conspiracy, I think throughout everyone has been honest and done their best to be good.

I want to reiterate, I am not writing about law, I am writing about the way decisions are written and how the wording of decisions affects journalism.

It was the opinion of Amendola that a protracted trial would be unable to bring justice in the face of  a lava tide of journalistic condemnation. I don't think the jury read what the journalists were writing, but they the jury were overwhelmed by a wave of disgust in reaction to an incomplete apprehension of what journalists were writing.

It would be very wrong to allow anyone to frame the debate as adversarial or originating in corruption or bad faith, this would only perpetuate the inaccuracy of the understanding of the reporting.

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I wouldn't object to you trying a 'wrongful conviction' section. It couldn't hurt anything to be bold, you might learn something. At worst someone will revert your edits and explain why. Createangelos (talk) 22:02, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

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