User talk:Computerjuice

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Computerjuice

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. A tag has been placed on User:Computerjuice requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

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Please explain how I am in violation of U5? I am not using this as a webhost. I am providing basic information about myself, the user. Computerjuice (talk) 21:50, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Computerjuice

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. A tag has been placed on User:Computerjuice requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain how I am in violation of U5? I am not using this as a webhost. I am providing basic information about myself, the user. Computerjuice (talk) 21:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can read about the criteria for which your user page was deleted here. The content on your user page likely appeared to be more like a blog, an advertisement, or an autobiography than a user page explaining your basic interests and goals on Wikipedia. Additionally, you said this on your newest rendition of your user page:

I have been posting basic information about myself to my user page and people keep deleting it and banning my ip. I am only adding my credentials and basic information.

Are you currently blocked or banned from the English Wikipedia on your IP address, or another account? Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 21:54, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I am not. Unless all Spectrum internet accounts are for the Tillamook Coast Region are blocked, including the dynamic address I have at 47.25.250.11. It is dynamic, so it might change, but would not vary from range of inclusion. From what I can tell we do not appear to be. Computerjuice (talk) 22:02, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dynamic ranges are often blocked due to vandalism, sorry - drew a conclusion too quickly from the bit about banning your IP. You'll likely find this part of policy helpful as to what you can include in your user page. Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 22:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Schrödinger's jellyfish, there's a bunch of colocationwebhost blocks and a few proxy blocks here. Perhaps they ran into that. Drmies (talk) 22:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They, mostly User:Fastily keeps deleting it & sending an IP Block request. I can no longer edit from my office (at the City of Manzanita), my home in Nehalem nor my phone through Tmobile. This is beginning to seem malicious. Computerjuice (talk) 22:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would wait for a response from them, then. I don't see any more recent deletions for your user page than this one. Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 22:48, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ive read that extensively, and followed those rules. I'll follow a similar format to what you have Schrödinger's jellyfish. Seems like a number of the people marking for deletion literally just have a non-wiki related image on their user:page. So listing my credentials, areas of expertise, and a few goals for wikipedia again with different formatting. Maybe that will work. Last question, is there some hidden minimum number of edits one must have before they allow the user page? Thanks you for the help. Computerjuice (talk) 22:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't speak to a number of edits before you can make a user page, as I don't believe there is one. Here's a few examples of solid user pages (in my super-duper professional opinion):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:That_Tired_Tarantula
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hugo999
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CoconutOctopus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chaotic_Enby (easily my favorite user page)

The best rule of thumb is probably just to keep it simple. My user page was pretty much just infoboxes at first, I think I added my areas of interest later. Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 22:20, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, thanks. My original page looked very similar to Hug999 albeit about 1/3 in length. So Idk 🤷 Computerjuice (talk) 22:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

{{unblock|reason=Caught by a colocation web host block but this host or IP is not a web host. My IP address is47.25.250.11 . Blocked for incorrect user page format. ~~~~}} Computerjuice (talk) 22:58, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

... And already deleted and IP Banned. Computerjuice (talk) 22:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The deleted userpage was written in the third person, which to the ignorant reader might make it look like a fake article. It looked like a resume or an advertisement for you as a DJ and radio personality (complete with names you've used as a DJ and a list of stations where you've worked), trying to build up your brand and your visibility on social media. (Wikipedia is not a social medium.) Orange Mike | Talk 01:37, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Orange mike, That was my first try. Your advice is very helpful. FYI, My second, third and fourth tries have not been 3rd person and have been flagged with an IP Block added by the same editor. Much appreciate the guidance as I navigate a newbie. Computerjuice (talk) 23:05, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Orangemike: I would have deleted it too. A minimum number of edits--meh, but you had, what, one article edit? And the user page should have some kind of relevance: your past as a DJ (?) is not really relevant. Also, "IP banned" is not a thing that exists here. Drmies (talk) 15:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not able to see deleted stuff (not an admin), but yeah, writing it in the third person will 100% make it sound promotional. I often look at new user pages, and tag user pages that look like they're meant to be an article or written like an article. Third person is a HUGE indicator that someone's trying to promote themselves.

Example:

Schrödinger's chef is a chef and sommelier with 30 years of experience in kitchens across the US. They mostly edit articles related to food, wine, and American restaurants.

This appears to be promotional, and would probably be speedily deleted for U5 or G11.

This makes it seem like I'm trying to write an article about myself (see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY) or advertise my work/myself.

I am a chef and sommelier with 30 years of experience in kitchens across the US. I mostly edit articles related to food, wine, and American restaurants.

Per what you can have on your user page, it's limited autobiographical content and notes related to my Wikipedia editing.

While it has the exact same information, it's just conveying that information (and the use of first person is appropriate, as this is a user page and not an article in the draft or main space) without the same promotional-ish tone. It has the exact same info about my credentials and the areas I'd like to edit in as well.

I hope this helps! First person is the way to go. Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 22:59, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks SJ! Much appreciated. Im thinking ya'll can only see my first deletion? This recent line of feedback seems only related to that, perhaps because I started this reply to that message. Seemed redundant to reply to the others as the input was going well here.

The user page attempt has been removed 4x now. Each time I am attempting to just follow the rules more closely with everyone's input & guidance.

User:Drmies the versions i tried on 3 & 4 did not include that (dj) information. My thinking on 1&2 was that entry (dj) was it is relevant in that I've worked in that industry with a multitude of people listed here on Wikipedia that have grossly inaccurate entries. A number of those people are either not tech-literate, or have since passed. Perhaps that information is not important when submitting those edits.

Anyway, again I really appreciate you all for taking time to guide a new person through this process. Computerjuice (talk) 23:09, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course! I'm pretty new myself, we all hit bumps in the road. A lot of policy can be tricky at first. One of my first days editing, when trying to tell someone about reliable sources (at least I think it was that), I accidentally transcluded the ENTIRE reliable sources page onto their user page. I've religiously made sure I'm using double []'s and not {}'s since. I've loved this essay ever since I found it, because sometimes you do just have to learn the hard way.

And as far as the pages of people you've worked with, that might qualify as a conflict of interest, but it's probably best left to the admins around here to deem it as one. However, you probably have easier access to, or more knowledge of, primary and secondary sources about them. I'm just happy that the user page fiasco hasn't scared you off! Happy editing! Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 23:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]