User talk:Coemgenus/archive2017-1

2016 Year in Review

		The WikiChevrons
		For your contributions to the Featured Article Neal Dow, you are hereby awarded the WikiChevrons. Congratulations! For the Military history WikiProject Coordinators, TomStar81 (Talk) 08:01, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

		The American Civil War Barnstar
		For your contributions to the Featured Article Neal Dow, a General in the United States Civil War, you are hereby awarded with this American Civil War Barnstar. Congratulations! For the Military history WikiProject Coordinators, TomStar81 (Talk) 08:01, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! --Coemgenus (talk) 11:48, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Civil war FAC

Hello, I was wondering if you could review Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Prince Romerson/archive1 another minor Civil War figure just like Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/J. R. Kealoha/archive1. Thanks in advance.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:01, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done! --Coemgenus (talk) 18:18, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jacobo Árbenz

Hello, Coemgenus - I have Jacobo Árbenz on my watchlist (having copy-edited the article in October 2016 – see GOCE banner on talk page), and I was just looking at your edits. I see you've added commas after initial prepositional phrases, which I probably deliberately either left out or removed. I feel a comma is not needed unless the phrase is long (more than four or five words) or is necessary to avoid confusion or ambiguity. In normal speech, very few native speakers of English pause after an initial prepositional phrase, particularly a short one. I looked through the Chicago Manual of Style on-line and found only this post by an Associate Member [1]. (I don't have access to other style guides.) Of course, I do not remove all commas from initial phrases, but I agree with this line: "Most other standard sources I've used over the years seem to agree that only short (i.e five words or under) *prepositional phrases* can go without the comma". I've checked with the Lead Coordinator for the WP Guild of Copy Editors for 2016, Jonesey95, who has informed me that either style (with or without the comma after short initial prepositional phrases) is acceptable, but that the article should be consistent. I know some writers, particularly speakers of British English, prefer the comma, but I think it unnecessarily slows down the pace of reading, and I think unnecessary commas are old-fashioned. I'm not going to get into an argument, and certainly not an edit war, and I won't revert your edits – I know it is merely a style choice – I'm just trying to persuade you to the modern view, and to consider not adding commas when you come across an article with no comma after a short initial prepositional phrase, unless most of the phrases in the article already have a comma, and you're editing for consistency. That's all. Do you really feel strongly about the need for the comma? Best regards, – Corinne (talk) 01:16, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Corrine: I think it reads better with them, but I don't feel particularly strongly about it. I didn't add them everywhere I could have, but I've gotten dinged here in the past for not having them, so I thought it was standard. If you want to revert, that's fine, it won't affect my GA review. It is, as you say, a matter of style choices, not a hard rule. --Coemgenus (talk) 12:51, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. Thanks for your cordial reply. – Corinne (talk) 15:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Mexican Southern Railroad

On 26 January 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mexican Southern Railroad, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Mexican Southern Railroad was originally run by executives from the United States, including former President Ulysses S. Grant? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mexican Southern Railroad. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mexican Southern Railroad), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Harrias ^talk 13:42, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work. Alanscottwalker (talk) 14:43, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --Coemgenus (talk) 14:44, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Hi Coemgenus. I want to congratulate you for your work on Mexican Southern Railroad. The article is a great example for other DYKs! Keep up the great work and I look forward to reading more articles about Mexico from you. ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 00:58, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

BTW - I hope you're OK with the minor updates I did. Great job again! ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 01:12, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for William Daniel (Maryland politician)

On 31 January 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article William Daniel (Maryland politician), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Daniel (Maryland politician). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, William Daniel (Maryland politician)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:30, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of William Daniel (Maryland politician)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article William Daniel (Maryland politician) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of QatarStarsLeague -- QatarStarsLeague (talk) 16:40, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of William Daniel (Maryland politician)

The article William Daniel (Maryland politician) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:William Daniel (Maryland politician) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of QatarStarsLeague -- QatarStarsLeague (talk) 18:41, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Joseph L. Kun

On 18 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Joseph L. Kun, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Joseph L. Kun served for 30 years on the Pennsylvania Court of Common Pleas, but was defeated when he ran for another term in the 1957 elections at the age of 75? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joseph L. Kun. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Joseph L. Kun), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:01, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Philadelphia municipal election, 1957

On 18 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Philadelphia municipal election, 1957, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Joseph L. Kun served for 30 years on the Pennsylvania Court of Common Pleas, but was defeated when he ran for another term in the 1957 elections at the age of 75? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Philadelphia municipal election, 1957), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:01, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Coemgenus, just wanted to drop you a note to say great job on these two articles. Keep up the excellent work! Cheers – Ianblair23 (talk) 11:52, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! --Coemgenus (talk) 14:14, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Philadelphia municipal election, 1957

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Philadelphia municipal election, 1957 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Yellow Evan -- Yellow Evan (talk) 04:01, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Constance Dallas

On 22 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Constance Dallas, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1951, Constance Dallas became the first woman elected to Philadelphia City Council? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Constance Dallas. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Constance Dallas), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

March 2017 WikiCup newsletter

And so ends the first round of the competition, with 4 points required to qualify for round 2. It would have been 5 points, but when a late entrant was permitted to join the contest in February, a promise was made that his inclusion would not result in the exclusion of any other competitor. To achieve this, the six entrants that had the lowest positive score of 4 points have been added to the 64 people who otherwise would have qualified. As a result, some of the groups have nine contestants rather than eight. Our top four scorers in round 1 were:

Cas Liber, last year's winner, led the field with two featured articles on birds and a total score of 674.
Iry-Hor, a WikiCup newcomer, came next with a featured article, a good article and a tally of 282 bonus points for a score of 517. All these points came from the article Nyuserre Ini, an Ancient Egyptian pharaoh,
1989, another WikiCup newcomer, was in joint third place at 240. 1989 has claimed points for two featured lists and one good article relating to anime and comedy series, all of which were awarded bonus points.
Peacemaker67 shared third place with five good articles and thirteen good article reviews, mostly on naval vessels. He is also new to the competition.

The largest number of DYKs have been submitted by Vivvt and The C of E, who each claimed for seven, and MBlaze Lightning achieved eight articles at ITN. Carbrera and Peacemaker67 each claimed for five GAs and Krishna Chaitanya Velaga was well out in front for GARs, having reviewed 32. No featured pictures, featured topics or good topics yet, but we have achieved three featured articles and a splendid total of fifty good articles.

So, on to the second round. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 1 but before the start of round 2 can be claimed in round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article candidate, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 13:52, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FA process

After seeing the discussion at the WikiCup talk page, I have a question for you. My content creation centers around Canadian football biographies. Canadian football is a relatively underappreciated support. It has its fan base, but the Canadian Football League is strictly secondary to the National Football League. The lack of free images is a real issue. I search for them constantly, but it's a miracle when I find even one shot of a player that is usable. Is it possible to get an article to FA without images if none are available? The criteria makes it seem like the answer is "no", but I wanted to verify. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 19:51, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

BU Rob13, if there is really nothing available, I suppose it would be possible. For living players, you may be able to find amateur photos with creative commons licenses. For deceased players, you could look into making fair use of a copyrighted image. I'm definitely not an image expert--if you look at FAC and see who does image reviews there, they might have more useful advice for you. But speaking for myself, I wouldn't oppose a nomination just because there is no picture of the person it's about. --Coemgenus (talk) 19:58, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The big problem is that many players I write about played from the 1960s to 2000s, which is just old enough that there isn't anything on the internet under a CC license but just new enough that they aren't yet deceased (not that I'm rooting for that just to get an FA credit). I'm a permissions agent with OTRS and handle a good deal of stuff regarding the file namespace, so I'm sadly familiar with how restrictive copyright and even fair use can be. I'm currently reaching out to some professional photographers to see if they're willing to make a low resolution version of certain images available, but that's an uphill battle. We'll see. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 20:04, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, after I wrote that I checked out your userpage and realized you probably know a lot more about image policy than I do! Have you considered reaching out to the players themselves? I've thought of doing that myself on some articles, and I imagine that it might be hard to get a response, especially from the more famous guys, but that could be a way to get a good quality photo owned by someone released into CC. Other than that, I've got nothing. Sorry not to be more helpful, but as I said, I'd argue that it's not disqualifying not to have a photo where there's no reasonable way to get one, and I'll be glad to say so at any FA nomination. --Coemgenus (talk) 20:12, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's something.

I've reached out to players a handful of times. Typically, I get a single response saying "Yeah, you can use photos of me" and then nothing back after they realize it's a bit of a process to find the author and get them to release it. These days, I try to go straight to photographers. I currently emailed one who's been a professional photographer covering the CFL (among other things) for a good 40+ years. If I can convince him to release low resolution versions of images for a few select articles, it would be a real boon. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 21:53, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Neal Dow for TFA

Hi Coemgenus. This is just a friendly note to let you know that the Neal Dow article, which you nominated at FAC, has been scheduled as today's featured article for March 21, 2017. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 21, 2017. Thanks! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:03, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll check it out. --Coemgenus (talk) 13:30, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the "Napoleon of Temperance", introduced: "Dow was a politician and orator who spent his life in pursuit of a single goal: banning the consumption alcohol. In the process, he made and broke political alliances, alienated neighbors and friends, and generally made himself obnoxious to everyone he encountered"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Philadelphia municipal election, 1957

The article Philadelphia municipal election, 1957 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Philadelphia municipal election, 1957 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Yellow Evan -- Yellow Evan (talk) 06:23, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Paul D'Ortona

On 10 March 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Paul D'Ortona, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that although he left school at the age of 14, Paul D'Ortona later served for two decades on the Philadelphia City Council? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Paul D'Ortona. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Paul D'Ortona), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:03, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Department of Education

Hi can you please add the rest of the Department of Education to the Political appointments of Donald Trump For me please https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_appointments_of_Donald_Trump https://www2.ed.gov/news/staff/bios/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.36.68.29 (talk) 00:29, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FAC William Pūnohu White

Hello, I don't know if you came across Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/William Pūnohu White/archive1. It was closed today because of no traffic and only 1 review after a month. The quality of the article is FAC material in my opinion. I did not ask anybody (except two users) in the initial run to review it since I was trusting that it will receive reviews. Now I am asking a couple of people here and there to see if there is enough interest to renominate it again as recommended by the closing admin. I will only go ahead and renominate it once I find a few people who wants to give it a review. Please let me know if you are interested. Thanks either way.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:33, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Grant first para

The tweeking of words here and there in the first paragraph has (IMO) rendered it a mish-mash that just seems worse every-time I look at it. I am not quite sure how to say it but It wanders back and forth and clears its throat several times. At any rate ,can you try to read it as if you were reading it for the first time and do some surgery (boldly). Alanscottwalker (talk) 15:58, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Alanscottwalker, the paragraph of the lede? I've added back in some of what's been lost over the last few years. --Coemgenus (talk) 16:36, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Alanscottwalker (talk) 18:32, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Philadelphia municipal election, 1953

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Philadelphia municipal election, 1953 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Werónika -- Werónika (talk) 21:02, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Philadelphia municipal election, 1953

The article Philadelphia municipal election, 1953 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Philadelphia municipal election, 1953 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Werónika -- Werónika (talk) 22:02, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In some benign wp:CANVASSING

Community input is politely requested for Jimbo's tkpg with regard ur expertise in gen. notability per wp:GNG & applicabilities of eg wp:PROF, wp:AUTH, etc. w/in AfD's
... here: User talk:Jimbo Wales#Suggested fix.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 00:36, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]