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Colbert, etc.

I'm not sure which specific comment you were referring to, as I made several about the Harding story, although I suspect it was the Groucho quote, which simply came to me for some reason. No, I don't watch Colbert or Stewart or any of those guys hardly at all, although I should. I just don't like to get "stuck" on watching a particular TV show, especially a daily show - and especially during baseball season. :) The Colbert deal on Harding is funny, though. He triggered a mad scramble between the IP vandals and the can't-we-just-get-along wing of the admin corps. The obvious thing to do was to protect it immediately, and they were a little slow on that trigger, as Colbert probably knew they would be, if he (or his staff) are sufficiently familiar with the way things work here. I'll tell you what, though - I'm going to make an effort to watch him tonight. I would guess he's still milking the wikipedia story. :) Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 00:41, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, this whole episode was educational, as I hadn't previously known that Harding was alleged to be an "Octoroon". Ironically, some are saying Obama is not black enough. I tell ya, there's just no pleasing some people. :) P.S. I'm voting for Obama. I don't care if he's too much of one color or not enough of another, I just know he's not John McCain, so he's the obvious choice for me. :) And if he manages to win, he might have a better chance for making things go better in the middle east, as I'm sure McCain likely would not.Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 00:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Whenever I hear that silly word "octoroon", I get a mental picture of an eight-sided Macaroon. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 00:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Colbert — and by Colbert, I really should say the Colbert character — has always poked fun at Wikipedia, and his light-hearted "vandalism" of several articles — most famously the elephant page — quickly got him banned. A very funny show, though, and its political humor is sharper than that of the similar The Daily Show, another programme I often find myself watching. The real Colbert, in contrast to the blustering, bullying, overwhelmingly right-wing conservative pundit he often portrays, is actually a Democrat with a—shall we say—restrained ego. Which, by the way, was evident in his playful willingness to help out two friends during the recent writers' strike, generating what I think was a very funny mock rivalry with Conan O'Brien and Jon Stewart, an article for which, by the way, I have recently created. (Forgive the plug! :)) Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 00:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Excellent. :) OK, the pressure's on you now - What time is the Colbert show on tonight? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 00:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, according to Eastern Time, it will come on at 11:30 pm at night, 1:00 am the following day, 10:00 am the same day, and then 8:00 pm before a new episode airs (which, of course, won't happen again until Monday rolls back around). :) Hope that helps. Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 00:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh, heh—forgive me, a few errors. While The Colbert Report does indeed air at 11:30pm, it doesn't come on again until 1:30 am, 10:30am, and 8:30pm. My apologies, as I was also thinking of the times Stewart's show comes on, which is broadcast immediately prior to Colbert's show. :) Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 01:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Rogereeny. I'll be watching. :) Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 01:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I did watch it. It's a good show. His guests, some of whom have serious points to make, are good sports about it. It's an appropriate followup to Stewart's show, which actually has some serious stuff in it. The segment with the guy who's been a journalist in Iraq for six years was quite interesting. Stewart's not playing a character, though, he's hosting a normal talk show with a comedic twist, so it's a little different. I'm not sure I want a steady diet of these shows, but they have some good stuff. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 12:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the Harding stuff, do I infer correctly that Colbert had made a joke about Harding's alleged black background giving new meaning to the term that was applied to him, as a "Dark Horse" candidate? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 12:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't remember all the jokes of the Harding segment [1], because it, honestly, really surprised me; as you said, I had no idea about Harding's alleged "Secret Negro" background — that "President Harding was a Negro!" clip had me cracking up! — but it's not totally out of the question. After all, lest we forget, Thomas Jefferson was a quarter Black, too. Maybe not the best example, but you see my point. :) Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 19:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not so sure about the Jefferson story. In any case, it's still up for debate as to whether Bill Clinton was "America's first black President", as some say (kidding or otherwise). Jefferson fathered some mixed-race children by Sally Hemmings, right? Ironically, he was more like "the father of his country" than the childless George Washington was. :) Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 02:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

You're correct, he fathered at least one Black child with Sally Hemmings, who I believe was his maidservant. It's been awhile since I've read that factoid, though, so my memory may be a little fuzzy. Funny comment about Bill Clinton, though, whose contributions to his wife's presidential campaign so far have ultimately been a mixed blessing. Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 02:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, maybe Hillary would have fared better with a little less "help" from her lovin' husband. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 02:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

BTW, this may seem a little off-topic, but it actually relates to the "good, serious stuff" you mentioned in a previous post. I must say — if you caught Monday's lineup of these shows — I found Stewart and Colbet's tributes to the late Tim Russert refreshingly reverent moments in their usually irreverent programs. Stewart paid tribute to Russert by replacing the usual bizzare, off-kilter "Moment of Zen" video with a touching, poignant clip of his interview with Russert from a few years back.[2] Colbert, meanwhile, was able to keep his tribute to Russert interestingly in-character, but without leaving event a hint of insensitivity in his comments: "Russert was a man of great personal integrity and ethics, and yet his show was still incredibly popular! He was a model journalist who brought dignity, credibility, and joy to his work. He will be sorely missed."[3]

Both of them handled the situation exceptionally well, given the nature of their shows, and for anyone watching, it was clear the two comedians held an immense level of respect for the man. Just thought I'd mention that. :) Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 17:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

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tanks, I would have fix ed with the the name on the Who Made HUckabee page except i had already renamed that article three times and it was lokign awkward with all the changes. I Didnt want to get nailed with a WP:3RR mistake and get an indefinite block or something Smith Jones (talk) 01:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: The Daily Show

Oh wow, thanks for the GA medal! I'm really flattered! (Heh, I'm actually a girl, though. ;D) Shoemoney2night (talk) 15:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Whoops! *facepalm* Wow, I feel stupid now, especially after looking at all the obvious clues you have on your userpage. *bangs head against the wall*... Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 15:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Haha, no worries! :) Shoemoney2night (talk) 15:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

While I'm at it — and I hope you won't mind my asking — what are your favorite Daily Show moments, past and/or present? -- Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 15:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Now that is tough. The Prince Charles banana thing is always a winner, as well as pretty much anything involving Stephen cracking up/cracking Jon up (Ted Hitler! Goat-ball lickers!). And, though it wasn't actually in the show? Stephen's "Requiem For A Show That Was Daily" always kills me. ("This men's room is empty now... oops, sorry." I am SO immature.) Steve getting drunk was hilarious, as well as pretty much all the Even Stevphens. I always love Jon's interviews with Denis Leary and Jeff Garlin... and his utter pwnage of Chris Matthews never stops being awesome. Ooh, there are way too many. How about you? Shoemoney2night (talk) 16:06, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, the Prince Charles banana scandal is definitely one of my favorites, as is the now-classic "Even Stevphen" where Colbert and Carell debate religion (it always kills me). Another funny "Even Stevphen" I like is the last one they had, with Ed Helms in the place of Carell — Helms was actually able to make Colbert cry ... gold! Another favorite of mine is the "toss" in which Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart, and Rob Corddry are arguing over The God Machine — it makes me kind of sad, though, that I wasn't introduced to the show until after Colbert, Carell, Corddry and Helms left, but John Oliver and Jason Jones are doing an excellent job themselves. More recent faves include, of course, that silly fight with Conan O'Brien, "Baracknophobia", and Jon Stewart's gad-awful Gitmo puppet sketches. There are many more, of course, but I guess I was able to narrow it down to these. :) Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 16:41, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Hahaha, anything that results in Stephen fake-crying is utter gold (I don't know if you've seen Strangers With Candy? His character is inclined to weep in the middle of classes he's teaching and it's pretty much awesome). And the Huckabee brawl, of course, was wonderful. I'd love to see some more of Demetri Martin and Kristen Schaal - I saw her when she was in Melbourne for the Comedy Festival and she is utterly hilarious. But John Oliver is incredible. Pretty much anything he does is bound to crack me up. His pieces on blatantly political children's books and English as the national language killed me. Shoemoney2night (talk) 17:18, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

No, I've yet to see Strangers with Candy, but I've heard good things about it. Maybe I'll do some Googling and watch a clip. And yes, John Oliver is incredible. I don't know if you caught yesterday night's broadcast, but it really looked like he was about to break character and start cracking up in the middle of his piece — you could see Oliver straining to keep a straight face for a little while there!

Speaking of such, I haven't seen much of Samantha Bee lately, which is a shame; I think she did an excellent job taking over the "This Week in God" segment from Colbert, another excellent sketch I'd like to see brought back. I hope they'll give Bee more airtime in the near future, what with her signature segment discontinued and all. One other thing: I've always enjoyed the "Even Stevphen" videos, and I've recently been wondering if Carell and Colbert were considering doing a brief cross-over reunion or something. Maybe Carell could make a cameo on The Report and engage Colbert in the "Formidable Opponent"? Or maybe Colbert could intrude during an episode of The Office? One can only dream... :) Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 18:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Strangers is delightfully wrong. Most of the episodes used to be on YouTube, but Viacom unfortunately put an end to that. I suppose Sam's going to be relatively scarce for the near future on account of her pregnancy but I agree, you can never go wrong with more Bee! As far as a Colbert/Carell team-up goes? I saw an interview with Steve in which he said they'd discussed the possibility of having Stephen guest-star on The Office as Jan's ex-husband, creating a little rivalry with Michael. Which would pretty much be the greatest thing ever. And they sometimes say they might resurrect Even Stevphen for a charity thing or something. I personally had my fingers crossed he'd show up on The Report while he was promoting Get Smart, but I suppose they did do that podcast together which was almost as good. Shoemoney2night (talk) 02:10, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually, if remember correctly, Carell and Colbert did publicly reunite at a promotional event for Get Smart the weekend it came out, during which Colbert, in character, cracked jokes at Carell's expense. Which reminds me — Maybe it was Steve Carell who gave Stephen that horrible face injury!  :) — Cinemaniac (talk • contribs • critique) 02:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, wait — that was what you were referring to [4]... Eh, I need more sleep at night... :) — Cinemaniac (talk • contribs) 23:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Haha, it's okay! I think Stephen actually said that he hurt his face in some kind of boating accident? But a dramatic Even Stevphen encounter sounds cooler. Or maybe he and Conan have been at it again with the fisticuffs.  ;) Shoemoney2night (talk) 07:03, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

(LQ2M) Maybe so. After all, once O'Brien replaces Jay Leno next year, he and Colbert will be directly competing for ratings during the 11:30 pm slot. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out. :) — Cinemaniac (talk • contribs) 17:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

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Aw man! I'd always liked using that little {{done}} template. Oh well... :) — Cinemaniac (talk • contribs) 17:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

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Wow. Wow, what an honor! Thank you! <sniffle> I've never been awarded a Barnstar before. This is so unexpected — I have no words. . . <pulls out a thick pile of papers and thuds it down on the podium> I'd like to thank all the people who made this possible: Jimbo Wales, Stephen Colbert, God. . . :P Thanks, again! — Cinemaniac (talk • contribs) 23:21, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad I could be such an influence. :D All said and done though, wonderful work on Who Made Huckabee?. It's a wonderful article, and could probably get to WP:GA. Leonard^(Bloom) 23:25, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Much obliged for your kind words, Leonard. In regards to the aticle's GA potential — thanks for the suggestion. My experience in the GA process hasn't been too successful (see here and here), but I was able to fix the article up to WP standards with the recent AfD and PR, so I think I'll give it another shot. I might not be able to devote much time to the GA review, though, for the rest of the week — as I've said before, I'm pretty busy now — so d'you think you could give me a hand and help spruce it up during that time. I'd really appreciate it. :) — Cinemaniac (talk • contribs) 23:33, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll do what I can, but I guess I should mention that I'm not the kind of editor who would take something to GA or above. I prefer a few minor edits to a few pages. (Though I have been working on Big Stick Ideology, which was dismal when I found it.) I'll try and add some refs and citations. Maybe some formatting? Leonard^(Bloom) 23:42, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Any improvements are welcome and appreciated. Thank you, Leonard. I sincerely hope this article will be able to pass GAN — if I don't screw up again, that is. :) — Cinemaniac (talk • contribs) 23:51, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Heh. It'll be fine. It's really a wonderful article; well sourced. I've already begun making improvements. Leonard^(Bloom) 23:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I really appreciate all the encouragement and work you've been putting into the article. But I've run out of time for today's session, so... until we meet again ... Cheers! :) — Cinemaniac (talk • contribs) 00:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Until then. Leonard^(Bloom) 00:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

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