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August 2019

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Information icon Thank you for your contributions. Please mark your edits, such as your recent edits to Oak Cliff, as "minor" only if they are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. Minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes or rearrangement of text without modification of content. Additionally, the reversion of clear-cut vandalism and test edits may be labeled "minor". Thank you. – Archer1234 (talk) 05:10, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I was a resident of Oak Cliff for some 50 years, during the years of court-mandated desegregation, and knew many families who moved to the southern suburbs in "white flight." Those moves along with many others contributed to the population growth of the southern suburbs during the 70s. So the article's reference to white flight only to northern suburbs was inaccurate. With all due respect, that claim is not sourced, so why do you take it as gospel? Omitting the word "northern" is indeed a minor change, because whites fled in all directions. Christmasbaby (talk) 17:28, 13 August 2019 (UTC)Christmasbaby[reply]

Hi Christmasbaby, All three of your recent edits to Oak Cliff were marked by you as "minor", but none of them were "minor" as far as how Wikipedia defines that term. Only mark edits as minor when just correcting typos, changing formatting, rearranging text without modifying it, etc. (see Help:Minor edit for more help about what constitutes a minor edit).
With regard to the "white flight", I do not take it as gospel and I have no issue with removing the entire paragraph as unsourced (just explain in the edit summary that that is what you are doing). But if you are going to add or change what is there, you need to provide reliable source(s) to verify/substantiate the change. Thanks. – Archer1234 (talk) 18:01, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I get it -- except the change from "opening in" to "opened" -- surely that is indeed a minor edit since it just changed the tense of the verb to make it accurate? And if I remove a paragraph that is unsourced, do I then check "watch this page"? Thanks - Christmasbaby (talk) 18:15, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

While I get your point, a change to past tense is not minor as it changes the meaning of the claim. In addition, the cited source did not support the "past tense", but even if it had, the edit still would not have been deemed minor. If you had found another source to support changing "opening in" to "opened", then it would have been a valid change (assuming you cited the source), but, again, still not minor. As it turns out, the school did not open in 2013, but rather in 2012. I found that out by locating a reliable source that reported on its opening. I added that source and made an appropriate change to the sentence. So, finding reliable source(s) that support changes is key to verifying the claims.
By the way, since you do not have a lot of edits in Wikipedia, I will share some additional information for you in a subsequent item on this talk page that you may find helpful. There is a lot to learn about what Wikipedia is (and isn't) and what its policies are. I am still learning as it is a lot of information to absorb.
Also, it is customary on talk pages to add an additional level of indent to each reply to a previous message in the same section by adding a : (colon). To indent two times use two ::, three times use three :::, and so on. This makes it easier to follow the conversation. So, for example, your first reply above that begins "I was a resident of Oak Cliff ..." should have been prefaced with a single colon :. Your second reply that begins "Okay, I get it ..." should have been prefaced with three colons :::. Note that each line of a multi-line reply needs the colons, not just the first line. Hope this helps.– Archer1234 (talk) 18:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
yes, I appreciate the pointers. I'm still wondering about the "Watch this page" box. What exactly does that mean? Thank you for your help!Christmasbaby (talk) 19:47, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Watch this page" is for adding the page to your "watchlist", which is a list of pages you are watching for changes. Most editors use their "watchlist" to monitor changes to pages in which they are interested to help to evaluate changes and correct mistakes. For example, the Oak Cliff article is on my watchlist, which is how I noticed your recent changes to it. Look at the top of any wikipedia page where it shows your username, preferences, etc. and "watchlist". When you click on watchlist it shows you a list of pages on your watchlist that have most recently been changed. See Help:Watchlist for a more thorough explanation. – Archer1234 (talk) 19:57, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

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A cup of hot tea to welcome you!

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