User talk:Cbdorsett/archive/2008

Re: Allah

All praises be to Allāh, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful.

I thank you for your message. My edit was made once and I am done with it. I am proud of that tiny edit, because I can explain it and also prove it.

However, one, it was your edit sister/brother who made the claim that it is His name, without backing it up. And two, your message says "there is no argument about it". So I accept that, and thank you again for your kind message. Three, is that time is not mine to be editing Wikipedia. I am glad there are people who do edits like you, while I am just a user/reader.

I am sure that your intention is good, and count on that. My intention was to at least keep Wikipedia's articles consistant. And all praises be to to Allāh, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. -~Muhammad N. Jassim (talk) 23:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assume Good Faith

Hi. I have deleted everything related to Salvu Darmanin from the Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English page. Since the page is gone, there is no reason to keep its translation request. I admit I made a mistake but next time, may I suggest that you consult Wikipedia:Assume Good Faith before using the tone you used, both on my talk page and on WP:PNT? I have deleted the comment you left on my talk page. For my part, I consider this incident closed. --Blanchardb-^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}-timed 21:57, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

بخش فندرسک

You asked why the page was deleted so fast. Metropolitan90 deleted it with a reason of "(db-foreign (see [:fa:بخش فندرسک]))". I can't read the original, but I'll be glad to post it to a subpage of your user page if you'd like.--Fabrictramp (talk) 17:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, I was WP:BOLD and created a subpage of yours and pasted it in. You'll find it here. When you're done, if you want it deleted just drop me a note and I'll be glad to do it, or use the deletion template. Cheers! --Fabrictramp (talk) 18:18, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Undeciphered writing systems

I can't for the life of me figure out how I haven't run across that article before! Thanks for the heads-up on it! What a nice way to start off a lazy Sunday :) -Yupik (talk) 07:41, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sumi Helal

I make no comment about how it might do at AfD, but I had to remove the speedy tag, as it includes just about enough notability claims to make speedy inappropriate. --Dweller (talk) 20:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Hetam-Garh er Guptodhon

Sorry for that. I misposted that tag. Alexius08 (talk) 04:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Spam

I've reverted your removal of that spam tag. Please read the language that accompanies the db-spam tag, "advertising for a company, product, group, service or person"! One of our persistent problems, for example, is the people who wish to spam us for their worthy cause or event, no matter how obscure, because it's such a noble cause. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:35, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arabic phonology

Greetings, you may not have meant to do so but in this edit you removed sourced information and added an unsourced claim without altering tags so that it seemed as though your contribution was sourced. I thought I ought to explain my reversion since since I don't want to dissuade you from editing Arabic phonology. If you have sources on MSA pronunciation, it would be a great help. Thanks. — Æµ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 10:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bozorgmehr Qaini

I believe it was Encyclopedia Islamica, but I'm not sure. It was weird, since both passages were from the same article in that encyclopedia. I would have preferred to keep the articles, but I couldn't find any info in English to fill them out with non-copyvio info :/ If you have access to any, please recreate them! -Yupik (talk) 18:30, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Response & a question

Hi. :) Thanks for looking into those articles. I've responded (and asked you a question) at my talk page. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 02:28, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to let you know, since not everybody converses in this way, that I have again responded to you on my talk page. Thanks for your assistance with these articles. It's bedtime in my part of the world. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 03:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cyrillic ornate omega

Why did you remove the ornate omega from the table?[1] This is not the Ot ligature, which you didn't remove. It is called ornate, or beautiful omega, and it is represented by U+047C and U+047D in Unicode 5.1.[2] —Michael Z. 2008-05-20 08:54 z

Hi.

The ornate omega is a broad omega with breathing mark and pokrytia, and it is usually used a specific way in vocative statements (as "O!"). In Unicode 5.1 it is represented by the character incorrectly called omega with titlo.[3] I didn't restore the letter based solely on the Unicode standard. Perhaps the ornate, beautiful or calligraphic omega is a variant form of alongside regular and "broad" omega and shouldn't have a separate line in the table, but it should be mentioned in this article about palaeography. It is mentioned in Berdnikov p 10, for example.

Ot is distinct: a ligature of omega and tvrdo, but come to think of it, it doesn't occupy a spot in the canonical alphabet either.

FYI, the earliest Cyrillic alphabet didn't have a concept of majuscule or miniscule letters at all (or anachronistically, of typographer's "case"), so there are no printed examples of any of these in either "upper case" or "lower case". Some letters were rendered large for ornamentation, but the concept was introduced to Cyrillic writing in later centuries.

But you have pointed out that the table should only have rows for actual letters, and variant forms ought to be shown differently. I'll see if I can improve it in the next while, if no one beats me to it. —Michael Z. 2008-05-20 17:16 z

Hey, thanks for the kind offer to help.

Much of what I know is culled from various small online sources (just added two to the article), and I've been looking for a better general reference to the subject. The article is sadly lacking much more information than the table can incorporate, and as you've noticed, there's practically nothing about ustav or Cyrillic palaeography. I think Early Cyrillic alphabet should be expanded into a good summary of the subject before starting more specific articles. I have little time, and this subject in Wikipedia needs all of the help it can get.

Ustav is the earliest form of Cyrillic writing, and poluustav (semi-ustav) is a later style—they don't quite correspond to uncial and semi-uncial. The old writing adopted a lot of breathing marks and variant letterforms from Greek, but only used a lot of them decoratively, according to arbitrary rules, or apparently at random.

These styles predate Peter's introduction of "civil script" (grazhdanka), which was modelled after Western European Latin type and eliminated a lot of the obsolete marks. The Bolsheviks got rid of the last vestiges in 1917. The Church Slavonic language kept using the old style of writing and type, and added detailed rules about its structure. —Michael Z. 2008-05-21 06:50 z

Translation (Alohaouach)

Thanks for your comment -- I understand the concern. Feel free to revert to the Arabic text, and leave a note about the general content (in this case, an area in Tunisia). I posted the rough translation intending to see if it was worth keeping; I should've reverted to Arabic as soon as it was clear the article was usable. Thanks again! nneonneo ^talk 14:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Simon David von Heine

Just letting you know that I declined your A7 as this article does make some assertion to notability - you need to be able to read German to see it, admittedly, but it is there. Any questions, feel free to drop me a line. Best wishes Fritzpoll (talk) 02:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

your move

Hi, curious to why you decided to move History of Alto Adige/South Tyrol to just History of South Tyrol? The consensus has been to use both names, i.e. Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol. Please move the page back. cheers, Icsunonove (talk) 18:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I was able to fix it. No biggie, but please don't move pages like that. You don't realize how much fighting there was about this province until we came up with some compromises. Please feel free to discuss more here or on my talk page. Icsunonove (talk) 18:51, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Beckh

Sorry I thought I finished translating it. You want 'translated following the black and red Tanjur (bstan-bsgyur).' This is actually outdated terminology there are twelve copies of the Tanjur available and they are named after the city of origin, but I don't know which ones are being referred to here by 'black' and 'red'. Tibetologist (talk) 00:03, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Tibetologist (talk) 12:06, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ilancueitl article

Hey thanks for the help with the translation of the article. I'm removing the article's section from WP:PNT. Cheers! -Samuel Tan 03:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kiki Lesandrić and user:Milosjan

You referred to my request for Speedy under WP:A3. A3 refers to pages with no content, which I suspect was the right criterion at the time I applied the CSD template (I don't actually recall the page, and I see from your message that you can't see it either). If I had thought it nonsense I would have applied WP:G1. I'm also aware that languages may be nonsense to me, but make sense to the author and other users of that language, and should be translated. TrulyBlue (talk) 09:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just an addendum - the deletion log states that when the article was deleted following my tagging, it was 'in its entirety: "Kiki Lesenrić"', confirming that my use of WP:A3 ('No content') was correct. Please do check before accusing others of mis-using templates. Regards, TrulyBlue (talk) 08:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, things get confusing when someone perseveres with different versions of an article that fail for various different concerns, and yes, sometimes people do use the wrong template. Apology accepted, have a good day. TrulyBlue (talk) 13:22, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cristofer Duarte

I don't have an opinion on notability. Speedy deletion is limited to the most obvious cases and typically does not involve an evaluation of notability. If there was evidence the text existed on another language wiki then it could be deleted otherwise it does need to be translated before a deletion discussion or prod on the subject notability can take place. – Zedla (talk) 05:04, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wikipedia:PNT

I used the dates from when the articles were tagged, so we can better assess the two weeks rule. In case this rule only applies from the time on when the article was put on PNT, I'll move the entries to July 29. De728631 (talk) 15:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, checking the related foreign language Wiki is what I do most of the times. And I do agree with extending the two weeks for a bit if needed. As for the tagging template itself, we should possibly enlarge the hint that encourages placing the article on PNT as some people seem to forget about that. De728631 (talk) 18:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cristofer Duarte

I have listed Cristofer Duarte at Articles for deletion. Your comments are welcome here. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 22:43, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: vandalism warnings

Thank you for notifying me. I don't like such strong wording myself, but as the author first had an established name in the biography and then changed it to that in the title, it looked just like plain test editing and/or self-promotion. The article was deleted because Eastmain and I supported an AfD for notability reasons. The whole page looked like "look, I play with the cool kids" to me from the beginning.

As to dealing with annoyed authors, I've got a trustworthy spam filter on my email account ;) Regards, De728631 (talk) 18:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Royal de Luxe heads up

Hi there, FYI I've attempted a translation of the French text you left on the talk page of this article – discussion at User talk:Roisterdoister. Thanks, WikiJedits (talk) 16:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

C.S.T. van GINK

On the articles-needing-translation page you said you'd put up a tag to speedy-delete C.S.T. van GINK for the copyright violation, but you didn't. You put up, consecutively, two different copyright templates, but neither was the one for speedy deletion, which is {{db-copyvio|url=http://www.example.com/something}}. Was that intentional? —Largo Plazo (talk) 08:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hanaharu Naruko

I've declined the speedy tag you placed on Hanaharu Naruko. The reason I declined it is because the author had already started translating it. For your information, עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ar:طلميثة

Hello! I figured since you're into language, you might be into this type of history, as well. If you have any free time, could you translate some of the article from the Arabic wiki and put it on the English one? It seems to be interesting (based on our old friend, Google Translate), but as we both know, it's not very good for assessing languages like Arabic :D Anyhow, the English wikipedia has a stub of a stub at Tolmeitha if you're interested! Thanks :) -Yupik (talk) 20:35, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright question

I have seen your comments on some WP pages on copyright, and I wonder if you would be willing to entertain a copyright question. If an individual gives a photograph to a non-profit community history organization, informally, with no written agreement, but with the understanding that it would be used in a public display, is that organization in a position to release a copy of that photograph under a creative commons license? I will understand if you are reluctant to give a direct legal opinion, but if so, can you point me towards anything useful? TIA -- Mwanner | Talk 21:33, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the response! That's pretty much what I expected would be the case, though I was hoping against hope that Gift Status + Physical Possession might just equal full Rights Ownership. I saw a comment somewhere among the many pages on Copyright on Wikipedia about a "photographer unknown" provision in some country's copyright law, but I assume that's not the case in the US. Anyway, thanks again, -- Mwanner | Talk 15:09, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Carlos Echevarría (no leo espanol)

Could you tell me how this meets WP:CSD#A7? I can't read Spanish, but the filmography tends to support the notion of asserting notability. Cheers, Dloh cierekim 16:11, 23 December 2008 (UTC) reply and reply2preply brought over to maintain continuity. [reply]

Thanks for your comment. Another editor removed the CSD-A7 tag. The article has been fully translated now. The article had no assertion of notability, and had only a list of films the actor had appeared in. I still think the article does not meet notability standards (see Wikipedia:Notability), but there are tons and tons of articles like that. --Cbdorsett (talk) 07:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, clearly asserts notability, with blue-linked filmography and sourcing. Glad I held off. Generally, A7 only applies if you understand the language. No opinion on what an AFD would show. One would need to search for WP:RS en español. One can always WP:PROD or WP:AFD if one is doubtful of whether an article lives up to assertions. Unfortunately, there are many, many marginally sourced articles. I avoid WP:AFD because with the effort required by due diligence, I can source an article on a subject I know to be notable. And there are still many notable subjects without even a stub. I used to be an eventualist. Cheers, and happy editing. Dloh cierekim 14:33, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays!

Yupik would like to wish you a Merry Christmas, a Happy Chanukah, or whatever you may be celebrating at this time of year plus warm wishes for a good 2009!

Hyvää joulua ja onnellista uutta vuotta! Buriid juovllaid ja ráfálaš ođđajagi! Pyereh juovlah já luholaš uđđa ihe! Lahkoe jåvle jih buerie orre jaepie! Buorre javla ja buorre ådå jagev! God jul och gott nytt år! Hyveä roštuota! Hyveä rastavoa! С новым годом! -Yupik (talk) 20:38, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]