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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jiří Rosický (mathematician) (November 20)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Curb Safe Charmer was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs to

meet any of the eight academic-specific criteria
or cite multiple reliable, secondary sources independent of the subject, which cover the subject in some depth

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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:29, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Catsloverz! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:29, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Indeed, it is disappointing to see that you declined the draft without a good reason; it is completely clear to anyone who knows a bit of mathematics that Rosicky meets the academic requirements to be on wikipedia. Catsloverz (talk) 21:41, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In particular, he obviously satisfies condition 1a, being highly cited (relatively to his own discipline) and 1b, having developed the theory of locally presentable and accessible categories - one of the most important sub-disciplines of category theory - and being the most prominent expert on that topic globally.

I am quite curious as to why you don't consider this enough to meet the academic-specific criteria. Catsloverz (talk) 21:50, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Jiří Rosický (mathematician) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Jiří Rosický (mathematician). Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 21:55, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello Catsloverz! Your additions to Draft:Jiří Rosický (mathematician) have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jiří Rosický (mathematician) (November 20)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Significa liberdade was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

As previously stated, Rosický likely meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for academics. However, we need reliable, secondary sources on this page to verify notability. At present, two of the sources are considered unreliable. nLab is a wiki-based, user-generated source, so it's reliability is questionable. As stated on Wikipedia's list of known reliable/perennial sources, "ResearchGate is a social network that hosts a repository of user-generated publications, including preprints. ResearchGate does not perform fact checking or peer reviewing, and is considered a self-published source." The third source is one of Rosický's own publications. Further, based on what is written here, Rosický does not meet specific guidelines for academics, such as being president of a major institution or chief editor of an established academic journal.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:09, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

nLab is much more reliable than wikipedia itself when it comes to mathematics. And notability is obvious from the number of citations and the number of papers, which is factual. Catsloverz (talk) 22:22, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jiří Rosický (mathematician) (November 20)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Rich Smith was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

A link to Google Scholar does not pass the notability test. A good thing would be to cite works that themselves cite Jiří Rosický's work

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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- Rich^T|C|E-Mail 22:41, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are countless of books and articles that cite Rosicky's papers. But I give up. I am truly appalled at how difficult you are making to create a page for a famous mathematician, while there are wiki pages about the most stupid things. Catsloverz (talk) 22:47, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed the citations and the page has been created!! Few points, you do need to actually cite other people's papers that talk about Rosicky's contributions. Just saying that there are n number of books/articles isn't really enough (Wikipedia gets a lot of people claiming that they are famous but who actually are not). In this case, I included a few of the hundreds of scholarly citations that mention Rosicky's contributions in the field and that was enough to prove that Rosicky was indeed notable. Sohom (talk) 00:25, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]