User talk:Captain Assassin!/Archive 11

WikiCup 2013 June newsletter

We are down to our final 16: the 2013 semi-finals are upon us. A score of 321 was required to survive round 3, further cementing this as the most competitive WikiCup yet; round 3 was survived in 2012 with 243 points, in 2011 with 76 points and in 2010 with 250 points. The change may in part be to do with the fact that more articles are now awarded bonus points, in addition to more competitive play. Reaching the final has, in the past, required 573 points (2012, a 135% increase on the score needed to reach round 4), 150 points (2011, a 97% increase) and 417 points (2010, a 72% increase). This round has seen over a third of participants claiming points for featured articles (with seven users claiming for multiple featured articles) and most users have also gained bonus points. However, the majority of points continue to come from good articles, followed by did you know articles. In this round, every content type was utilised by at least one user, proving that the WikiCup brings together content contributors from all corners of the project.

Round 3 saw a number of contributions of note. Figureskatingfan (submissions) claimed the first featured topic points in this year's competition for her excellent work on topics related to Maya Angelou, the noted American author and poet. We have also continued to see high-importance articles improved as part of the competition: Ealdgyth (submissions) was awarded a thoroughly well-earned 560 points for her featured article Middle Ages and 102 points for her good article Battle of Hastings. Good articles James Chadwick and Stanislaw Ulam netted Hawkeye7 (submissions) 102 and 72 points respectively, while 72 points were awarded to Piotrus (submissions) for each of Władysław Sikorski and Emilia Plater, both recently promoted to good article status. Collaborative efforts between WikiCup participants have continued, with, for example, Casliber (submissions) and Sasata (submissions) being awarded 180 points each for their featured article on Boletus luridus.

A rules reminder: content promoted between rounds can be claimed in the round after the break, but not the round before. The case in point is content promoted on the 29/30 June, which may be claimed in this round. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. We are currently seeing concern about the amount of time people have to wait for reviews, especially at GAC- if you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 10:19, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter

Hey Captain Assassin!. We've just rolled out a new version of the VisualEditor :). Changes and patches include:

• Newly added templates now list their available parameters if TemplateData is available;
• The load for the VisualEditor on apages is now 4 KiB, down from 119 KiB;
• Feedback dialog is no longer chased off the screen by typing (bug 50538)
• Fixed the Monobook issues around z-indexes (bug 50241)
• Undoing an image resize doesn't make everything look bad
• In the image dialog, "Caption content" is now just "Caption"
• Tweaked tooltip references to VisualEditor to instead talk about "source mode"

Those are the big ones; more coming at the end of this week or early next week :). It's a short list, but the load issue took up a lot of time, as did TemplateData, and are both pretty big changes. If you've got any questions, drop them on my talkpage. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 01:16, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Let's end this petty feud.

I don't know about you, but I'm feel childish. We seriously need to stop. The reason I took Into the Woods was because during my block, out of no where, you had relocated Blade Runner 2, Gods of Egypt, Rodham, Annie and Z for Zachariah. I took back the first four and left Z for Zachariah with you, but in exchange, I took Into the Woods. Basically a trade. Can we call it square and move on? Rusted AutoParts 23:46, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

You know what? Just take your Z for Zachariah, I don't wanna trade for nothing and never ever touch my redirects again, I made mistakes with your five redirects but you got all of them, get Z for Zachariah too. And never ever look into my redirects again...crystal? -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 03:50, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey, guys. I'm Bobamnertiopsis. I created Into the Woods (film) a while back, so it's been in my watchlist for a few months now. I'm not entirely sure what's been going on, but suddenly, a whole lot of moves of the redirect to a whole slew of likely unnecessary redirect pages were occurring. From what I can tell, there's been some disagreement over the perceived ownership of redirects that are likely to become content pages in the future. Just so you're aware, no one owns Wikipedia articles. There will likely someday be a content page at Z for Zachariah (film) someday soon but it won't have mattered who started the redirect that eventually became the article and there's no reason to move redirect pages when you can simply create new ones. R.A.P., there's no need to "trade" anything here because neither of you have anything to trade. And Captain, be careful when cautioning others to stay away from editing any articles on the site, since no article on the site is 'yours', even redirects which only you have edited. Thanks, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask. BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 04:22, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand this guy's problem. This all started a few months back when he moved the redirect I already had in place because he had the content, so he felt the article was "his". In his new movement of Into the Woods, he even stated he wanted credit for it. He's a glory hound, only out for the credit. I only did what I did because his actions were unnecessary. All I know is, i attempted to resolve the issue, he insisted on having the credit for Into the Woods, screw him, I'm done. Rusted AutoParts 04:35, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh you are done now? You should be, you started all that mess up, but OK for now, make it end of the story here because I'm done too. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 04:42, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

I made this mess? Don't make me laugh. This wouldn't have happened if you listened 2 months ago, don't go moving a redirect that doesn't need to be moved. The fact you confirmed you only want credit makes this worse. We don't own Wikipedia. Now, I strongly suggest only making redirects for films actually going to happen (Bridesmaids 2 probably won't happen, How to Train Your Dragon 4 still needs to wait for a 3rd to even be confirmed). It's a major jump of the gun. Let us just put this aside and move on, we are more mature than this. You're a damn animation student, I'm a damn writer. We're both over the age of 20, were not children fighting over the best toy. Agreed? Rusted AutoParts 05:03, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah yeah agreed :). -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 05:21, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter

Hey Captain Assassin!! We've just deployed some fixes to the VisualEditor. These include:

• "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you're looking at (bug 49943)
• "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you edited last time if this is your second edit (bug 50441)
• VE edit section links will load the latest, not original, version in diff view preview (bug 50925)
• <big><big>Foo</big></big> and similar repeated tags will not get corrupted any more (bug 49755)

In the meantime, testing is proceeding well, and hopefully we can get some more fixes out over the next couple of days. If you're interested in helping out, we have a set of open tasks we'd really appreciate your assistance with :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 07:53, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter

Hey Captain Assassin!

We just deployed another VisualEditor release; bugs fixed include:

• Firefox 13/14 has been temporarily blacklisted, to avoid the insertion of broken links [[./that look like this]] (50720)
• Changing a reference in a template should no longer produce the bright red "you don't have a references block!" error (bugzilla:50423)
• Notices are now shown if you're editing a protected or semi-protected page (bugzilla:50415)
• The template inspector will no longer invite you to insert parameters that are already being used (50715)
• Same as above, but with aliases (50717)
• Parameter names in the template dialogue now word-wrap (50800)
• The link inspector will not show in the top left if you hit the return key while opening it (49941)
• Hitting return twice in the link editor will no longer introduce a new line that overwrites the link (51075)
• Oddly-named categories no longer cause corruption (50702)
• The toolbar no longer occasionally covers the cursor (48787)
• Changing the formatting of text no longer occasionally scrolls you upwards (50792)

Not specific bugs, but other things; cacheing is now improved, so people should stop seeing temporary breaking when the VisualEditor updates, and RTL support has received some patches. I hope this newsletter is helpful to people; I'll send out another one with the next deployment :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:04, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter

Hey Captain Assassin!! Another set of patches :). Today we have:

• Required template parameters are now automatically added to new templates (50747)
• Templates with piped links now display correctly when you alter them (50801)
• If your edit token expires, you're now informed of it (50424).

  You still won't be able to save - that's due to be fixed on Monday :).

More on Monday, I suspect. Hope you have a good weekend :). I should also have some news about the IP launch pretty soon. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:11, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for your invite. A token of appreciation Taeyebaar (talk) 06:04, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Chuchkana

The article Chuchkana has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unsourced since creation in June 2011, and it appears to be unverifiable using Google and JSTOR.

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Nomination of Alvin and the Chipmunks 4 for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Alvin and the Chipmunks 4 is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alvin and the Chipmunks 4 until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Beerest355 Talk 02:10, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Why did you create this article? I've seen your comments at film-related AfDs and know that you are fully aware of the notability guidelines for future films. The announcement of a release date does not equate a film being in actual production. Erik (talk | contribs) 01:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Listen, I created just the redirect when the release date was announced so someone other added the contents, he also added sources but if you are still against then delete it. But I'll suggest better make it redirect again to the 3rd film sequel section until production begins. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 03:18, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

I apologize, I thought you created the article! On an unrelated note, regarding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Untitled Marc Lawrence/Hugh Grant Comedy, you commented at the AfD but did not express an explicit stance on the topic. Do you have one? Erik (talk | contribs) 14:29, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Wow, good work Erik, thanks for improving and saving the article. See you helping around :). -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 15:46, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Candy Store (film)

I have removed your speedy deletion tag on this article as the "blatant hoax" reason clearly does not apply. Please see the article's talk page for details. - SummerPhD (talk) 23:37, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes I know, I did that mistakenly, I've added the source at target page. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 23:57, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

You and User:Rusted AutoParts

I've see your names pop up a few time and, after a bad speedy deletion tag, I just ran across Into the Woods (musical), Into the Woods (movie project) and Into the Woods (movie).

I don't care who is "right", who "started it" or who did what to whom. Your interactions have become disruptive, IMO. I'd like to suggest that the two of you disengage from one another: If you are about to edit a page that the other editor has recently edited (or a redirect to such a page), simply let it go.

Failing that, I'm fairly sure the two of you will find yourselves discussing this with a few admins, and that is never a pretty thing.

Thoughts? - SummerPhD (talk) 00:10, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

What can I say? I don't want more discussions with any admins, I'm never gonna touch his article again. The last one was just a simple mistake. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 03:19, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter

Hey Captain Assassin!; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:

• If you insert wikitext such as links or section headers, you get a notice in the top right corner (over the save button). It doesn't go away until click, though once dismissed you don't get another one that edit. (49820)
• If your edit token expires, VE fetches a new one for you so you can save. (50424)
• If the page is empty of content but does have something non-content (like a category or an HTML comment), VE no longer crashes on load - (50289)
• sub tags are no longer removed ((49873)
• If you type at the end of links, they now extend
• Templates now only take a single click to insert
• Clear annotations clears links (50461)
• The link inspector stays open when you click to another item (50895)
• Typing after multi-byte characters no longer creats pawn icons (51140)
• Resizing thumbnails that have a default size set now works (50645)
• References made by tag:ref now display properly (bugzilla:50978)
• The VE is integrated with the spam blacklist (50826)
• Feedbacl link goes to the right language (bugzilla:47730)

There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:14, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Redirects again

Please stop creating redirects for things which do not yet exist. It doesn't matter what target you choose, the title itself is speculative and fails WP:CRYSTAL. A rumor that a book or movie might be named something is insufficient to support a useful redirect even if the rumor is sourced. The redirects that you have been creating are confusing now and in many cases will become even more confusing if/when the movie or book is finally released.

Wikipedia is not for advertising and redirects are not a backdoor to search engine optimization. Please stop creating these redirects. Rossami (talk) 22:49, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Hahah, now again when I'm creating only resourceful redirects. What is wrong with you all people? -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 03:10, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

They are not useful and are in fact harmful to the project. You are in many cases creating circular redirects which have the perverse effect of discouraging the creation of encyclopedic content. In many other cases, you are speculating about future titles and creating confusion for both current and future readers and editors. You are also misusing the Wikipedia naming convention about parentheticals in article titles.
I will be happy to answer any specific questions you have about Wikipedia policies but your talk page currently shows that two other admins have recently asked you to stop creating these redirects. If you continue, it could be seen as deliberately disruptive and may result in suspension of your rights to edit the encyclopedia. Rossami (talk) 03:34, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

How can that be? When I'm now creating only redirects with sources. On the other side those Admins only stop me to create redirects whose targets have not powerful sources, but now I'm doing as they advised me. So I can't understand you all, you can read the talks above, Admins said to create redirects with sources on their targets. So I think that is enough for you, if still someone will suspend me those Admins have to answer to that. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 03:43, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I have checked a number of your sources. While those sources included some information on the likelihood of a sequel, none were definitive on the title of the sequel and many were not even sure that the sequel would ever be released. That level of sourcing may be sufficient to support a paragraph in an existing article (which I see that you have added in many cases) but it is not sufficient to support the creation of a new page title. To support a page title, you need a definitive source that confirms the final title under which the work will be released and substantial details about the work. And if you have that level of detail, you should be creating a stub, not a redirect. Speculative redirects are not good for the project.
Regardless, sourcing is not the only problem with the redirects that you are creating. Circular redirects are entirely different and are severely disruptive to our readers. And your abuse of the parentheticals creates its own problems. Rossami (talk) 03:53, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

That is absolutely wrong man, whatever now I'm redirecting have good sources. About sequels they are mostly titled with numbers so don't need to know exact title for them to create a redirect. Most of them titled like Hot Tub Time Machine 2, 3 and then 4, etc. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 04:01, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Please re-read WP:CRYSTAL. See in particular bullet 2. The fact that I can predict with great certainty that there will be a "Tropical Storm Arthur (2014)" is not sufficient to substantiate a page with that title. By the same token, the fact that you think there will be a "Hot Tub Time Machine 2" and even the probability that you will be right is not sufficient justification to create that title prematurely. Rossami (talk) 04:09, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I understand what you are trying to tell me, but look I don't just create the redirect of any title by reading its name. I get some sources at its target and many web pages then I create the redirect of that title. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 05:31, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

And what I and Wikipedia policy are trying to tell you is that that is very often not enough. Rossami (talk) 13:46, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Circular redirects

Okay, let's put the sourcing question aside for a moment because there are other problems you are creating. Do you understand what a circular redirect is and why they are so disruptive to readers? Rossami (talk) 13:46, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

No, I don't. Tell me please. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 17:47, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

A circular redirect is one that takes you back to the same page you started from. The simplest version (where foo is set to redirect to itself) is obviously broken and the system won't even allow that to function. The less obvious and much more difficult version is a redirect that involves two pages - foo includes a link to bar but bar redirects automatically back to foo. The user experience in that second scenario is one of great confusion.
Let me give you a tangible and frustratingly frequent example. Say that I am editing a page about a popular and notable author who has written 5 books. Books 1-3 have their own articles and are hyperlinked in the author's biography. I have a copy of the fourth book in front of me. There is no question about sourcing - the physical presence of the primary source is best evidence. The book clearly exists and I know the title exactly. But say I but don't have the time or the inclination to write an article about about the book yet so I create a redirect from that title to the author's biography. There is no other place the redirect could go so that seems like a logical connection.
The unintended consequence comes when a reader is in the biography and sees that the title to book 4 is now a hyperlink. She clicks the link, expecting to go to a page about the book. Because that title is a redirect, the screen won't change. The browser returns the reader to the same page immediately. The reader clicks the link again. Still nothing. Eventually, she leaves in frustration and tells her friends that Wikipedia is "broken". True, a very astute reader might notice that the article now has a very small "redirected from" line at the top of the page but most people don't notice those. All they see is that the link didn't do what it was supposed to.
In this scenario, the far better result is for the user to see a red-link. The blue vs red convention is easy to see and very common. Even novice users understand it. And if our reader follows the link, he will see a page expicitly saying that Wikipedia does not yet have an article. (Best, of course, is to follow the link and find a stub and an invitation to expand the article but now we're outside of the redirect scenario.) The only other way to fix a circular redirect is to go to the biography page and unlink the reference to book 4 but that inhibits the creation of new content.
The rule is that if a topic is important enough that we should have an article at that title, the best answer for the project is to leave the title as a red-link until we do have an article. Does that make sense? Rossami (talk) 21:00, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh yeah I understand v. well, but listen we can't leave or make the red links at the articles though there is a red links removing project at the Wikipedia. So I think the red links problem should be solved here, now on the other hand ("circular redirect" thing). Actually there is a solution for that too is "not to put links on the target article of that redirect". I mean if we make a book redirect to its author as a target then simply we'll not put wikilinks to that book on the author page until the article of that book is created. By the way someone has to create redirects, it is not a vandalism or against Wiki-policies, if I don't create them someone other will. I appreciate your effort, I understood what you said but your issues aren't bigger then they were before for the reliable sources. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 00:27, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

GOCE July 2013 news report

Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter Participation: Out of 30 people who have signed up for this drive so far, 18 have participated. If you have signed up for the drive but have not yet participated, it isn't too late. If you haven't signed up for the drive, sign up now! Progress report: Thus far we have reduced the number of May/June 2012 articles to just 124 articles, so we're on the right track. Unfortunately, for the first time in GOCE history, the number of articles in the backlog has actually gone up during this drive. While all participants are currently doing a fine job, we just don't have as many of them as we have had in the past. We have over 500 editors on our mailing list, but only 18 editors who have done a copy edit for the drive. If you're receiving this newsletter, it's because you have an interest in copy editing. Join the drive! Even if you only copy edit one article, it helps. Imagine how much progress we could make if everyone chipped in just one article. – Your drive coordinators: Torchiest, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, and The Utahraptor. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 22:36, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

This week's articles for improvement - 22 July 2013 to 28 July 2013

posted by Northamerica1000^(talk) 13:42, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

I've added an opt-in section for those interested in receiving TAFI notifications on the project's main page, located here. Those that don't opt-in won't receive this message again. Also, a revised notification template has been created, located at Template:TAFI weekly selections notice. Northamerica1000^(talk) 04:53, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of S.I.L.A.

The article S.I.L.A. has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Cannot find any reliable sources to confirm this, except those dated in early 2011 which state it was in development then.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Logical Fuzz (talk) 20:16, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Another plea to stop with all the redirects

Hello there. I see that I am not the first one to bring this up. Please stop with all the crazy redirects you are creating. Most of these are completely unnecessary and often unsourced. For example, [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], and [6] are redirecting to a page which has no mention of the subject. Then there are these two [7] [8] (weren't sure of the title, huh?) where you did add refs at the redirected article in question (but the sources are 3 years old!) and then there is this one [9], which you redirect to the director, which does mention the subject, but later mentions that the director is no longer attached to it! He exited the project in 2010! This is absurd. Can you please explain these??

You are creating a lot of directs for movies that are in development and adaptations/scripts that are said to be in the works, or someone "acquired rights". You do realize that the vast majority of these will never become films? As others have mentioned, you are violating WP:CRYSTAL and WP:NFF. "Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles." The films you are dealing with do not need redirects, either. You are NOT helping the encyclopedia by doing this. --Logical Fuzz (talk) 22:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm aware of that only films with reliable sources of principal photography can have articles, and I'm following that but redirects is another thing. I'm only creating the redirects which have reliable sources on their targets, just a few of them have not you mentioned above. But I think redirects are OK as I already talked to Admins above and they said you can create them if they have information of the film with sources at their targets. So I'm sorry for creating redirects without sources again, but most of them have sources and good information at their target. OK now, I'm going to add some sources which you mentioned above, thanks for reminding me and sorry. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 02:51, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

I know you want "credit" for creating various redirects. You've been told this is inappropriate. You persist in creating inappropriate redirects. You've been told this is disruptive. Is there any remaining reason for me to not take this to WP:AN/I? - SummerPhD (talk) 04:22, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

No I'm not creating inappropriate redirects now as I said already, some of them are as mentioned above by Logical Fuzz but I fixed them now. I'll not suggest you to take this WP:AN/I because there is no more reason to take it there. I've solved the problems and I'll create inappropriate redirects further no more. Only Big Nate is a problem now and I've tagged CSD to it. OK? -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 05:40, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

And another thing I'm going to slow down and will stop eventually creating redirects now. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 05:43, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Um, so much for not creating more redirects: [10][11][12]. - SummerPhD (talk) 18:15, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh my man, but [13] is a novel redirect and I'm sorry for this one. I can tagged it for CSD. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 22:10, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

And for your information the film Just Before I Go is filming this time in LA, so there is no problem then, huh? I'm gonna create the article, that's why I create redirects. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 22:16, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter

Hey Captain Assassin!. The newest updates:

• Links now don't extend over space/punctuation/workbreaks when you type (bugzilla:51463)
• Users with the "minoredit" preference set get working functionality (bugzilla:51515)
• You can tab to buttons in dialogs, including the save dialog (bugzilla:50047)
• We now show the <newarticletext> (or <newarticletextanon>) message as an edit notice (bugzilla:51459)
• You can scroll dialog panels like in transclusions' templates' parameter listings (bugzilla:51739)
• Templates that only create meta-data and no display content at all (like Template:Use dmy dates) now can't be deleted accidentally or deliberately, but still don't show up (bugzilla:51322)
• FlaggedRevisions integration (bugzilla:49699)
• Edit summary will get the section title pre-added if you launched from a section edit link (bugzilla:50872)

Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:49, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Reasonable Doubt (2014 film)

The article Reasonable Doubt (2014 film) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unsourced. Per WP:FILM, future films are not notable until independent reliable sources confirm that principle photography has begun.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. SummerPhD (talk) 00:48, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Just Before I Go listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Just Before I Go. Since you had some involvement with the Just Before I Go redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). SummerPhD (talk) 18:13, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

The Winter Queen (2014 film) listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect The Winter Queen (2014 film). Since you had some involvement with the The Winter Queen (2014 film) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). SummerPhD (talk) 18:14, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of The Hunger Games: Mockingjay, Part 2

The article The Hunger Games: Mockingjay, Part 2 has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

fails WP:NFF: no evidence that it has commenced photography.

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Future films

Wikipedia's notability criteria for future films states that there should not be an article about the film until reliable sources confirm that principle photography has begun. As part of your rush to create new articles, you have been creating articles for new films based upon single sources, packed full of information that is not in the single source you are using. As a result, I've trimmed one for you to see the issue: [14].

In one case, you created a redirect for "Just Before I Go", redirecting it (for some strange reason) to the director. Faced with the possible loss of one of your notches, you created an article based on one source that knows the film only as "Hello I Must Be Going".

A few things:

• Your efforts to create as many redirects as possible, so as to claim some sort of "credit" is disruptive. You have been warned about this repeatedly and have said you would stop, but have not.
• It is highly questionable that a single source is reason enough to start a new article, especially if that source is a gossipy blog about filming locations.
• Do not include unsourced information. WP:V is a core policy.
• IMDb is not a reliable source for future productions.

Given your problematic contributions, you are likely to find the growing list of editors complaining your behavior will grow. If your goal is to create redirects and very low quality articles that need to be torn apart to remove all of the crap, you will soon find that people griping on your talk page is the least of your problems. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:13, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

That's not a problem to create stub articles, anyone can expand them. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 01:20, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Creating pointless redirects is a problem. A film title that isn't the title of the film is a problem. A film title that redirects to one person associated with the film (whose article gives no information on the film) is a problem. Creating articles full of unsourced info, in violation of one of our core policies is a problem. Ignoring the clear consensus to not do what you are doing in order to collect some kind of pointless, virtual "notches" is a problem. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:14, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh ho ho, I'm not creating anymore pointless redirects now, and creating articles is not that a big problem as you are making it. There are hundred of daily users who create the unsourced articles but after sometime very those articles become start status articles and A-class articles, what about that, huh? Me...I'm creating articles for almost three years, some of them were unsourced due to finding good sources, a problem, but never have any problem till now. And now I'm creating those redirects which have not information and reliable sources at their targets. By the way I'm always in the creating of stub articles method, if you have any problem with that I'll leave Wikipedia forever ( which I don't want to do :) ). And everyone here are to serve and help WIkipedia so if I'm creating the stub articles here someone other will in one, two or three days will make that article better as usual happens on Wikipedia. Don't panic my Dear! :). -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 03:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

July 2013

Hello, I'm SummerPhD. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Melissa Rauch, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. SummerPhD (talk) 02:15, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Palo Alto (2013 film)

The article Palo Alto (2013 film) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

One source for this article. It says the collection "Palo Alto" is to be made into three movies, none of which are to be called "Palo Alto". No principle photography started (failing WP:NFF). Much of the info in this article is unsourced.

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Please do not add or change content, as you did to Palo Alto (2013 film), without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. None of the information in this article is in the source you cite. The source has Franco raising funds for three films, none of which will have the title "Palo Alto". NOTHING in this article is sourced. SummerPhD (talk) 05:59, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Townies (film). This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. [15] SummerPhD (talk) 14:22, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Can't you just stop for some time and wait for me to put some sources out there, I was just about to add some sources in the article. You are in a rush more than me...can't you just hold on for one day to see if I'm adding sources or not. What's problem with you by the way? -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 14:55, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

If you have a reliable source for information, add the information along with the source. Do not copy information from "wherever" into an article, add some random sources that you hope say something about the film and hope to find sources in "one day".

If you cannot add a reliable source along with the information, do not add the information. - SummerPhD (talk) 15:43, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Why can't I? I can add sources, but "be patient at new articles" this is what someone told me in my start of editing at Wikipedia in 2010 when I was tagging articles for PROD , CSD and XFD etc. He told me to be patient at articles and users when he created a new article, give him some time to improve it. That's what I'm asking you to do with me, I'll be adding sources in the articles day by day, you will see. But now I'm just making the stub articles with one or two reliable sources. Please just wait for me to add some sources there or someone other will do that if I don't. You better know than me. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 16:22, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't know who told you what or what they were discussing. WP:VERIFIABILITY is one of our three core content policies. I supersedes any guidelines you see or discussions you have had. It reads, in part, "Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it...All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists and captions, must be verifiable."

You have been warned three times for adding unsourced material. The next one will be your fourth and final warning. Do not add unsourced material. - SummerPhD (talk) 18:52, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

I do not want to add unsourced material and never wanted to really, but problem you made is on those all casts which I just added as they were on the ComingSoon.net, IMDB or MovieWeb. Why would I add them by my own self, how could I? I added what I saw and second thing about verifiable sources so those are just what I had to put and you didn't even wait for that coming, given warning was so fast. By the way I never put the content by myself those were the material I saw somewhere then I put them, so its wrong thing if you again giving me warning or block thing when I'm adding something from some other website. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 22:53, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

If you are taking the information from a reliable source, cite the source when you add it. If you are not taking the information from a reliable source, do not add the information.

Do not add information without citing a reliable source at the same time. Information you add without a cite to a reliable source giving that information will be removed and you will again we warned. - SummerPhD (talk) 00:10, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

But what if I'm adding the information from IMDB or MovieWeb, like actors, director and producer? Do they need citation of source? -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 07:43, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

For widely released films, credited roles generally don't need a cite (if anyone doubts who played Scarlett in "Gone With the Wind", the films credits are readily available and completely authoritative). For unreleased movies, uncredited roles and lost films, you will need to cite a reliable source. For these roles, IMDb is clearly not a reliable source.

A prime example of the problems you are creating is the heading of this section. The only source you cited clearly states that there will not be a film called "Palo Alto". Most of the other information you added similarly seems to have come to you in a dream. NOTHING in that article was sourced. WP:VERIFIABILITY is a core policy on Wikipedia. "Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it." - SummerPhD (talk) 13:44, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Wait, one thing just clear that please, I'm creating an article of future unreleased film so do I need to cite its lead and credited actors, director and writer? Leave "Palo Alto" aside for one minute that was just mistake because I saw the title and did that, sorry. For next I'll assure the title first, but just tell me the answer now. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 00:43, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

For an unreleased/future film you need reliable sources for everything. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:25, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Another thing I'm always being issue of what redirects, so as we talked already I can make redirects if I got the reliable and powerful sources at the target of redirect article like book, novel or director, huh? -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 01:34, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Given your repeated problems with redirects: creating inappropriate redirects, moving redirects for "credit", nonsensical redirects, etc., I'd recommend you simply not create redirects. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:00, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

What if I create appropriate redirects with reliable sources at their targets, will that work? -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 14:29, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Given your repeated problems with redirects, I'd recommend you simply not create redirects. - SummerPhD (talk) 14:37, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Forget the given repeated problems, I'm talking about future and I'm talking about only good and appropriate redirects. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 14:40, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 July newsletter

We're halfway through this year's penultimate round, and the competition is moving along well. Pool A's Sasata (submissions) currently leads overall, while Pool B's Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) is second. Both leaders are WikiCup veterans, and both have already scored over 600 points this month. If the round were to end today, Miyagawa (submissions), with 274 points, would be the lowest-scoring participant to make it through. This indicates that participants will need a score comparable to last year's (573, the highest ever) to qualify for the final. The high scores this year are a testament both to the quality of participants and to the increased focus on significant content (eligible for bonus points) in this year's competition. So far this round, both Sasata and Cwmhiraeth (submissions) have made up over half of their score through bonus points, with, for example, high importance FA koala earning Sasata a total of 440 points (from a multiplier of 4.4) and high-importance GA sea earning Cwmhiraeth a total of 216 points (from a multiplier of 7.2). Other articles on important topics submitted this round include a featured article on the Norman conquest of England by Ealdgyth (submissions), and good articles on Nobel laureate in literature Henryk Sienkiewicz, Nobel laureate in physics Hans Bethe, and the noted Japanese aircraft carrier Hiryū. These articles are by Piotrus (submissions), Hawkeye7 (submissions) and Sturmvogel_66 respectively.

Other than that, there is not much to report! If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 23:46, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK RfC

• As a listed GA participant, you are invited to contribute to a formal Request for Comment on the question of whether Good Articles should be eligible to appear in the Did You Know? slot in future. Please see the proposal on its subpage here, or on the main DYK talk page. To add the discussion to your watchlist, click this link. Thank you in advance. Gilderien Chat|Contributions03:04, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

August 2013

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to The Scribbler (film). This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. [16] SummerPhD (talk) 14:14, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Ooh I was being careful with cast and director, I didn't see it coming. I'll be more careful next time. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 14:21, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

By the way you don't have to warn me again and again, just tell me whatever I'm doing wrong as I did in The Scribbler (film). I just did it mistakenly. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 14:24, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

SummerPhD, please don't template the regulars, you have done that over and over again on Captain Assassins talk page. Please refrain from warning him using templates, Thank you. Prabash.Akmeemana 18:34, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Prabash.A, I just told him already that I'm good and fast learning now, he just warned me on just putting a musician, cinematographer and a editor in a film template. What is he like, did he never make mistakes before? -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 00:35, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Thats not an issue that people should whine about, it's like putting restrictions on a prolific editor, it unfair and goes 180 degrees away from my Wikipedia philosophy, he shouldnt chase you around nit-picking every edit you make and warning you with a template, not only does it look disgusting, it looks bad on you too. He's an editor like us all, we have all made mistakes here on the past, including him, me, you and every other editor here, but he shouldn't have used twinkle to warn a good editor, rather discuss. Prabash.Akmeemana 12:43, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

That's what I'm saying, he is just behind me chasing all the time, watching my every blink of eye and then shout the warning template at my talk page. I already told him just talk, tell me mistakes again and again, if you can't do that leave me alone someone other will help me pointing out my mistakes which I'm trying not to do. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 03:12, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

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QMobile

I just hop in here to ask you create a new article on QMobile as I tried but It was deleted. Thank you!

I tried it already, but it had lack of reliable sources so couldn't last for long. I'll create it when we get new reliable sources. If you have any you can send me the links. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 07:17, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Well that's the main problem, don't have resources. UBS (talk) 13:42, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

I told you, otherwise I would've created already. I'll be glad to help if you need anything other to ask, be pleased to help Wikipedia, thanks. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 13:50, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

ANI notice

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• Just added a final comment. I think this is all done and dusted now. Any problems, let either myself or the Film Project know. Happy editing! Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 06:28, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks again Lugnuts, but look, I'll not move any redirect or film page until I noticed you but creating redirects is another problem. Because if I'm willing to create an article (as example an adaptation) later so if I have reliable sources at the target and the film is in development so I should have created the redirect, what do you think of that? Sorry if I'm wrong but I think WP:NFF is for future films articles but I'm not creating the articles until principal photography or filming begin, I'm just saying for the creation of redirects to make them article later when filming begin. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 15:49, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for 06 August 2013

It's been almost two weeks since the last newsletter, and a lot of improvements have been made during that time. The main things that people have noticed are significant improvements to speed for typing into long pages (T54012), scrolling (T54014) and deleting (T54013) on large pages. There have also been improvements to references, with the latest being support for list-defined references, which are <ref>s defined inside a <references> block (T53741). Users of Opera 12 and higher have had their web browser removed from the browser black-list, mostly as a result of work by a volunteer developer (T38000). Opera has not been fully white-listed yet, so these users will get an additional warning and request to report problems.

Significant changes were made to the user interface to de-emphasize VisualEditor. This has cut the use of VisualEditor by approximately one-third. You can read about these at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Updates/August 1, 2013, but they include:

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Most of the Wikimedia Foundation staff is traveling this week and next, so no updates are expected until at least August 15th. If you're going to be in Hong Kong for Wikimania 2013, say hello to James Forrester, Philippe Beaudette, and the other members of the VisualEditor team.

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August wikification drive.

Hi, Captain Assassin! Did you know that I got the wikification drive for August started up a few days ago? I noticed no one else has joined up yet, so I'm spreading word about it. Cheers! :) Can you decipher this acronymical code? CYDTAC (Hint: It's really easy!) (talk) 06:05, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot to you Will. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 15:51, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

BRSP

Hi, Hope you are doing good, recently one of the article of Balochistan Rural Support Programme (a local Non profit prganization of Balochistan) is nominated for deletion because of near-total absence of WP:RS to establish notability. I have so far founded a number of reliable sources about this NGO, in fact this NGO is one of the most notable NGO in Pakistan. Please go through the article and give your comment here as "Keep" or "Delete": Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balochistan Rural Support Programme

Thanks,

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 16:17, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

It has good sources at Google, I'll try my best, good luck. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 16:55, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for giving your comments.Nabil rais2008 (talk) 17:14, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Any time sir :). -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 17:44, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

GOCE July 2013 copy edit drive wrap-up

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Fifty Shades of Grey - daughter article

Hi. Thanks for your message, but the link you gave me is to a section of the article Fifty Shades of Grey, whereas the new article is a daughter article. I have placed a hat note link to "main article" in the section that you mention Fifty Shades of Grey#Film adaptation and I've also reverted the redirect back to the original one that you did, which was correct.--The Vintage Feminist (talk) 03:51, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your consideration but I've asked admin for history merging and it'll be good if its history will be merged. See you around happy editing. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 03:59, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

No idea on how to do a merge - I think an Admin has to do it. Just pop a note on the talk page of the Film Project. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 06:31, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

I had guess that you couldn't do the history merge, thanks anyway. See you. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 07:07, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give Fifty Shades of Grey (film) a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen. Thank you. Betty Logan (talk) 07:23, 15 August 2013 (UTC) Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give Fifty Shades of Grey (film) a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen. Thank you. Betty Logan (talk) 07:36, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Fifty Shades of Grey - Main article

1. Assassin. Don't do a move or redirect again. Last warning.
2. @Betty Logan: It is a copyright violation, but you know he was trying to move. Assassin is having troubles
3. Both of you. Stop edit warring. Talk, don't keep undoing each other.
4. Assassin. I deleted an article and you re-created it minutes later. Don't do that.
5. In order for the move, an admin has to delete one first.
6. Assassin. Don't do a move or redirect again. Last warning.

Bgwhite (talk) 07:57, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Look it was already exist and you just have to merge the history or copy the contents from Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film). This is not justice Bgwhite, it's what we already talked about. I didn't create the redirect now, it was since May. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 08:01, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

WP:SIG and your signature

Your current signature contains <big> tags, which are not allowed:

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Please correct this. Thanks, Theopolisme (talk) 20:52, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mian Amer Mahmood

The article Mian Amer Mahmood has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

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This block is the result of the discussion at WP:AN#Inappropriate page moves by User:Captain Assassin! (Revisited). The discussion has caused me to conclude that your actions are highly disruptive and are unlikely to be stopped by anything short of a block. Please note my comments here — when your block has finished, you should expect the imposition of an indefinite block if you continue the way you were editing before the block. Nyttend (talk) 01:22, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

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Whoa, is this the response Bgwhite you gave me on agreeing with your conditions, I think Nyttend didn't read this all, I didn't not do anything now, I made just a redirect and I undid that and apologized to Bgwhite. I think Rusted AutoParts having some problems again with me, I don't know but after talked at Bgwhite's talk page this is the response to me...good. And Nyttend, you should read all at Bgwhite's talk page before, and tell me for what you blocked me now. At ANI, I agreed with Bgwhite you read that and you've blocked me after agreeing not to do anything wrong, at-least tell me the solid reason now. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 01:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Decline reason:

The unblock request does not address the reason for the unblock to the extent where I can believe you now understand what you did wrong, the amount of disruption it has caused, and why you were blocked. Doing disruptive page moves that waste the valuable editing time of those who have to clean up after you - that's why you were blocked. Moving material around so that the true authors no longer got proper attribution as required by copyright law - that's why you were blocked. Please consider taking up editing on another wiki whilst you sit out the block and please also take the time to think about the kind of productive contributions you could make here instead of the stuff you have been doing. Best wishes, Diannaa (talk) 23:16, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I don't understand what you mean; please clarify. There's no single reason that I blocked you: rather, I blocked you because the history of edits made it appear that you were unwilling or unable to contribute positively to Wikipedia, and your responses in the AN thread confirmed that appearance. Nyttend (talk) 01:48, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

No sir, I agreed on all conditions with Bgwhite at ANI and his talk page, you should have read that all first please. History was history (past), I told I'll not do that in future so I'm just editing Wikipedia now. SO can you read at Bgwhite's talk page and then tell me the one reason for blocking now please. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 01:54, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

I read you comment Nyttend, In my mind, improving your accuracy rate by gaming the system is a substantial reason to oppose a nomination, rather than to support it, I think it's fixed on me, you should have try this for me. :) -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 02:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

FYI, your unblock rationale doesn't address the reason you were blocked. If you don't adjust it, I strongly doubt that anyone will accept it. Please read the context of my comment at WT:RFA: I was speaking about people who vote in specific AFDs purely to inflate their percentage of voting with the majority at AFD in general, for the purpose of making it easier to get administrative rights. Unless you've been doing that, my comment has nothing to do with you. The discussion at WP:AN made me believe that you (1) have been causing substantial problems in numerous ways, and (2) are unwilling or unable to abide by restrictions or agreements. Someone who's caused problems in the past should be editing if he will change his actions, but if he can't or won't, he shouldn't be editing and should be prevented from editing via a block if he won't prevent himself from editing. Your question regarding my comment at WT:RFA is just another illustration of why I don't believe that you're able or willing to function properly here: I cannot understand how or why you'd take that statement as a comment on your actions, so if I understand correctly, you're either unable or unwilling to understand others' comments and their applicability to your actions. I don't have anything against you, so if you convince me that I've badly misunderstood the situation, I'd be willing to unblock you. It would be a pretty blatant abuse of process for me to decline the unblock request (a blocking admin could completely prevent a person from being unblocked if he were allowed to decline requests), but if you convince me that I made a mistake by blocking you, I'm obliged to fix the situation and unblock you. Nyttend (talk) 02:31, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

No, I'm not unwilling to abide restrictions and agreements, I told Bgwhite at ANI that I'll follow his instructions and I agreed with his conditions, I told you and I'm telling you now. You can ask Bgwhite, just let him comment here, he'll tell you everything, he even gave me the last warning at his talk page that I will personally block Assassin if he does it again. So I didn't ignore or denied the conditions and restrictions, I'm willing to follow them as long as I'm editing here. And kindly don't mind but Rusted AutoParts revisited the ANI just because he wanted me to be blocked (not attacking just telling), I don't know what are his problems with me now after I apologized him many times. And Nyttend, I've told you now several times that I'm and I was willing to follow the agreements at ANI. Please read all the Bgwhite's comments at ANI and his talk page again. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 02:49, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

What proofs can I give you now, I willed already to follow Bgwhite's conditions, you can read here and here. How can I convince you now? I don't know, I've never been in this situation before, so please unblocked me and I'm telling you that I've learned the lesson already and I'm not making mistakes again in last days, check my editing history. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 03:24, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

@The Bushranger, I'm seriously very confused here that I'm not understanding why Nyttend is saying that my unblock request or comments are convincing him that I'm either unable or unwilling to participate in a useful manner. Can you please explain me how? Because I'm telling again and again that I'm following the conditions now, and I've already told Bgwhite that. I think the problem in understanding may be my English writing or country difference or talking way, but Bgwhite can explain if he can just come here once. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 04:04, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

@Nyttend, @Beyond My Ken, @Bgwhite, can you please unblock me so I can discuss at ANI and with other editors. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 05:26, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

If you believe my goal was to get you blocked, then the block is fitting, as you have bad faith in your fellow editors. I revisited the matter because I was unaware of what went on at Lugnuts and Betty Logan's talk pages. It's not a matter of following some guidelines an editor set out, but more cooperating with everyone. And you just failed to do so. One again, I wasn't hellbent to get you kicked off Wikipedia, but I wanted some form of closure on this matter. We'll see where it goes, but I feel you're lucky it's not an indefinite block. The following editors including me were trying to prevent this by addressing and asking you to cease and desist, as well as believe you're still in the wrong: Rob Sinden, Logical Fuzz, Betty Logan, Onorem, JohnCD, Rossami, Lugnuts, AndyTheGrump, Black Kite, Nyttend, Alanscottwalker, Beyond My Ken, Nick, Lukeno94, The Bushranger and SummerPHD. That's seventeen different editors. Rusted AutoParts 05:43, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Now you are hitting me again, I don't know why but you've always followed me and against me. I'm not assuming bad faith now but you are always chasing me. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 06:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Hitting you? What? This is definetly bad faith. I wasn't following you around to try and piss you off, the matter appeared on the WikiFilm Project, and I was contacted by Logical Fuzz about the ANI. Not only that, but you kept name dropping me(usually rife with accusation), therefore I would receive notification that I was mentioned here. It seems you're using me as an outlet to force blame onto me. You have to understand I wasn't the one who put on the block. I merely submitted my input on the history of disagreeing we had. This is probably the last time I comment. I'm not hitting you, following you, or chasing you. Just seeking a resolution to the issue. I reccomend using the time you are blocked to review some of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. They are here to help. Rusted AutoParts 13:51, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

• Assassin, I nor anybody else can unblock you. It is up to the original admin. I did leave a message at the ANI page. Bgwhite (talk) 06:52, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

• As Bgwhite told everything, I was trying to say the same thing that I just made one mistake in last 2-4 weeks but I undid that myself and informed the author. But Betty Logan was not discussing before moving that article which was I presume, unfair. Now the four things he is saying to ban me from will ban me from editing Wikipedia at all, you can see that clearly. @Nyttend: Now please look at Bgwhite's comment and take a look at my editing history of last few weeks then make a decision again. I didn't create redirects or any moves during and after discussion at ANI so kindly give me a chance and see. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 10:55, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

• Your unblock request is a message to me that doesn't address the reason you're blocked; it therefore shows that you don't understand the unblock procedure, or it shows that you're trying to cause disruption through fruitless discussion. Bgwhite is wrong in one way — we have unblock templates in order that uninvolved administrators may come around and unblock if appropriate. I already gave you a chance: I concluded from the ANI discussion that you were causing extensive problems, but I decided that after six months had passed, you'd have the chance to redeem yourself through good editing. Nyttend (talk) 12:29, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

• But Nyttend look, I want a chance to redeem myself through good editing now, please let me change my editing methods now. I want that chance now because you can see it was in history and I didn't do anything wrong within or after ANI so I'm able to get a chance now. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 15:51, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

• Unless a last minute reprieve happens to commute your sentence, you are going to have to sit out for a bit. Don't blame Nyttend, Rusted or anybody else. You were causing problems and didn't change in time before it went to ANI. Once it goes to ANY, anything can happen. I'd say sit out for three months and come back with a well-reasoned appeal. Tell me when you do and I'll back you. Bgwhite (talk) 21:00, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

• I don't know Bgwhite, I'm not blaming anyone now...I just got confused, the problem only I was causing is moves/redirects and I've stopped from them when ANI started and everyone knows that. So I'll only appeal to unblock me now so I can show you good editing or otherwise I don't know, do whatever you want. Three months or six months is a long period, make it to the few days, I've leaned. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 01:14, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Trust me, having learned from experience, the best path would be to wait the recommended three months. It's not that no one believes you, but it's hard to think that you've learned from your mistakes so soon. Three months is a good time to come back and re-appeal. Rusted AutoParts 17:37, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

• @Nyttend, @Bgwhite : I know it's hard to think for others RAP that I've learned but you saw my editing method since the ANI started, I calmed down after that. And I can't guarantee you in my words but I'll show my improvements (I really have learned from my mistakes so soon because it's a like shock to me, I'll never do these mistakes again). Just unblock me once please and check my contributions for a few days like a mentor program. I assure you now that I can do better. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 04:10, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

• Remember that this block only prevents you from editing in the English Wikipedia, not in all WMF projects. It's common for blocked people to want to prove themselves (why wouldn't you, after all?), and the best way to do that is to edit productively on other projects. Try out the Urdu Wikipedia or the Punjabi Wikipedia. Editing productively at another Wikipedia is almost always regarded as a good indication that you should be trustable here. Do you have a reasonable digital camera? The Wikimedia Commons can always use new images — wander through the subcategories of Commons:Category:Bloomington, Indiana to see how many thousands of different pictures are possible in the city where I'm living right now, and remember that it's nothing compared to Lahore. Commons is meant to be multilingual, but its primary language is English, so editing at Commons is a good way to demonstrate that you're able to function well in English as well as in Punjabi or Urdu. If you show that you edit well elsewhere, you'll go a good way of convincing me that the block should be ended, and I'm confident that you'll have the same effect on lots of other people. Nyttend (talk) 04:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

• @Nyttend: You have to be able to write Urdu to play there. Punjabi is also not an option. There is the Pakistan Punjabi site and the Indian Punjabi site. The Pakistan Punjabi is essentially dead. English is the primary language for the Internet in Pakistan. Majority of web sites there are in English. As Captain is attending college in Pakistan, he has to know English.
• Captain, I do believe Nyttend acted unfairly, but I am biased towards you. There is nothing at this point but to wait a few months. Ping me and we will write up an appeal. I think if we work together, your appeal will be successful, especially with the vast majority of editors not endorsing Nyttend's actions. However, I do think some time away will be good for you. Isn't school starting up again for you soon? There's these things called "girls" that you try talking to. I didn't know about them until my parents kicked me out of the basement and away from my computer. Bgwhite (talk) 05:40, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

• @Bgwhite: Hahah, no I really don't know about girls because my father is too strict about girls and he is not even letting me go to the school now (he is sick with diabetes and he wants me to handle his business at hometown). And apparently I'm seeing that Nyttend is not helping me now, it's discourage to me and I'm really disappointed by him. A few months is too much away from English Wikipedia for a regular editor, you can understand Bgwhite.
• @Nyttend: I really want to be unlocked now seriously and I'm seeing that you aren't helping an editor here and even not compromising/listening to an fellow admin (Bgwhite). Actually we study English here at schools and our computers and internet is completely in English so it's really hard to write in Urdu or Punjabi. And currently I'm living in Bhawana, not have any scenes or sights to be captured by camera, just a flood came behind our city 4 or 5 days ago. So it's a kind request for the last time to unblock me please or at-least block me for a month period. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 11:59, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Assassin, I think you should consider Nyttend's suggestion of helping other projects. As if you live in Bhawana, you can really help by adding some pictures of the country side to the Commons. Like the crops that are being sown/harvested these days, River Chenab during floods, etc. Besides you may find the Simple English Wikipedia a good place for replicating articles you find here, if you want to continue contributing in English. --SMS ^Talk 11:59, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes I'm thinking of that, I'll start soon. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 07:08, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for 21 August 2013

Both VisualEditor and MediaWiki were upgraded recently. For VisualEditor, this is the long-awaited post-Wikimania update with many bug fixes and enhancements. Work also continues on speed at opening and during use, as well as on the bugs reported here and at other Wikipedias. The full report is at Mediawiki.

References are displaying properly, even when nested (T52749) or in image captions (T2000. Reference lists are now always fully populated with references (bug 50094). Firefox users can insert an existing reference in the first paragraph (T54159). Opera users no longer see corruption of categories when a reference was added (bug 50385).

Stray spaces are being stripped from the start of paragraphs to end one of the common <nowiki> problems (T53462). We also fixed a round-tripping bug that caused desirable whitespace in templates (used to make templates more legible, e.g., by putting each parameter in an infobox on a separate line) to get corrupted (bug 51150).

Wikilink handling was improved. Users are not allowed to create internal links to invalid titles (titles that are actually impossible due to limits on acceptable character combinations in titles, not redlinks) (T35094). You can extend wikilinks, but it won't do so over a wordbreak (like a space) (bugs 49931 and 51463).

A handful of fixes to the user interface were made. The toolbar doesn't float over personal tools after opening a dialog or the inspector (T54441). Toolbars were also re-written to be collapsible/expandable, with room for more icons. Buttons in dialogs can now be activated using the Tab ↹ and ⇧ Shift+Tab ↹ key commands (bug 50047). This saves time for editors, because you don't need to take your hands off the keyboard to click a button. We fixed a handful of bugs that affected only certain articles or certain browsers, including toolbar buttons in Firefox (bug 51986) and dialog panels that didn't always scroll correctly (bug 51739). Bugs with undo/redo getting confused have been fixed (T54113).

Images, in addition to getting references displaying correctly, also saw improvements with a set-empty |link= parameter no longer corrupted (51963). We corrected thumbnail images' display so that they look don't wrong in some contexts (bug 51995). Inserted images no longer explicitly set their alignment, but instead inherit the default position in compliance with the Manual of Style (bug 51851).

More edit notices, warnings, and metadata like information about Pending Changes on an article now appear as appropriate (bug 49699). When new articles are created, users are now shown the <newarticletext> message (bug 51459). VisualEditor now handles templates that set "meta" items (like a category) and nothing else better (bug 51322). If the database is locked when a user tries to save with VisualEditor, they now get a message telling them as such and an opportunity to try again, rather than a silent failure (bug 51636).

When you save the page, having the default preference set to "mark all my edits as minor by default" no longer overrides the setting in the save dialog (bug 51515). If you open VisualEditor from a section edit link, the section's title will be pre-filled in in the edit summary box when you go to save it (bug 50872). The size of the save dialog box in the Monobook skin has been fixed (bug 50058). Also, wikipage content handlers like sortable tables are re-run automatically after saving (T53565).

A very early version of the mathematics equation editor is now available for testing on mw:Mediawiki. If you would like to help improve the user interface for math editor, please test out the extension at mw:Mediawiki:Sandbox and leave your comments directly at the discussion page for the Math Node User Interface at Mediawiki. You should be able to use your regular username and password should to login to Mediawiki.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 17:35, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

GOCE Blitz wrap-up and September 2013 drive invitation

Guild of Copy Editors August Blitz wrap-up Participation: Out of sixteen people who signed up for this blitz, nine copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Progress report: During the seven-day blitz, we removed 26 articles from the requests queue. Hope to see you at the September drive in a few days! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Torchiest, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95 and The Utahraptor. Sign up for the September drive! To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 02:52, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 August newsletter

This year's final is upon us. Our final eight, in order of last round's score, are:

1. Hawkeye7 (submissions), a WikiCup newcomer who has contributed on topics of military history and physics, including a number of high-importance topics. Good articles have made up the bulk of his points, but he has also scored a great deal of bonus points. He has the second highest score overall so far, with more than 3000 points accumulated.
2. Casliber (submissions), another WikiCup veteran who reached the finals in 2012, 2011 and 2010. He writes on a variety of topics including botany, mycology and astronomy, and has claimed the highest or joint highest number of featured articles every round so far this year. He has the third highest score overall, with just under 3000 points accumulated.
3. Cwmhiraeth (submissions), 2012 WikiCup champion, who writes mostly on marine biology. She has also contributed to high-importance topics, seeing huge numbers of bonus points for high-importance featured and good articles. Previous rounds have seen her scoring the most bonus points, with scoring spread across did you knows, good articles and featured articles.
4. Sasata (submissions), a WikiCup veteran who finished in second place in 2012, and competed as early as 2009. He writes articles on biology, especially mycology, and has scored highly for a number of collaborations at featured article candidates.
5. Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), the winner of the 2010 competition. His contributions mostly concern Naval history, and he has scored a very large number of points for good articles and good article reviews in every round. He is the highest scorer overall this year, with over 3500 points in total.
6. Ealdgyth (submissions), who is competing in the WikiCup for the second time, though this will be her first time in the final. A regular at FAC, she is mostly interested in British medieval history, and has scored very highly for some top-importance featured articles on the topic.
7. Miyagawa (submissions), a finalist in 2012 and 2011. He writes on a broad variety of topics, with many of this year's points coming from good articles about Star Trek. Good articles make up the bulk of his points, and he had the most good articles back in round 2; he was also the highest scorer for DYK in rounds 1 and 2.
8. Adam Cuerden (submissions) has previously been involved with the WikiCup, but hasn't participated for a number of years. He scores mostly from restoration work leading to featured picture credits, but has also done some article writing and reviewing.

We say goodbye to eight great participants who did not qualify for the final: Piotrus (submissions), Figureskatingfan (submissions), ThaddeusB (submissions), Dana boomer (submissions), Status (submissions), Ed! (submissions), 12george1 (submissions), Calvin999 (submissions). Having made it to this stage is still an excellent achievement, and you can leave with your heads held high. We hope to see you all again next year. Signups are now open for the 2014 WikiCup, which will begin on 1 January. All Wikipedians, whatever their interest or level of experience, are warmly invited to participate in next year's competition.

This last month has seen some incredible contributions; for instance, Cwmhiraeth's Starfish and Ealdgyth's Battle of Hastings—two highly important, highly viewed pages—made it to featured article status. It would be all too easy to focus solely on these stunning achievements at the expense of those participants working in lower-scoring areas, when in fact all WikiCup participants are doing excellent work. A mention of everything done is impossible, but here are a few: Last round saw the completion of several good topics (on the 1958, 1959 and 1962 Atlantic hurricane seasons) to which 12george1 had contributed. Calvin999 saw "S&M" (song), on which he has been working for several years, through to featured article status on its tenth try. Figureskatingfan continued towards her goal of a broad featured/good topic on Maya Angelou, with two featured and four good articles. ThaddeusB contributed significantly to over 20 articles which appeared on the main page's "in the news" section. Adam Cuerden continued to restore a large number of historical images, resulting in over a dozen FP credits this round alone. The WikiCup is not just about top-importance featured articles, and the work of all of these users is worthy of commendation.

Finally, the usual notices: If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 05:59, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

RED 3 (2014 film) listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect RED 3 (2014 film). Since you had some involvement with the RED 3 (2014 film) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). LazyBastardGuy 03:32, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

• @LazyBastardGuy: - Yes you are right, RED 3 (2014 film) should be deleted because the release date is not confirmed, thanks. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 17:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 5

This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.

Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page (bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.

A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed (48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".

In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>) (bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:39, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

RED 3 (2015 film) listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect RED 3 (2015 film). Since you had some involvement with the RED 3 (2015 film) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). LazyBastardGuy 03:33, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

• Sorry for it too, it should be removed. I was involved in some bad redirects before. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 17:59, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

No need to apologize. It's totally alright. LazyBastardGuy 20:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks man. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 04:40, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Bleeding Edge (novel) listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Bleeding Edge (novel). Since you had some involvement with the Bleeding Edge (novel) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). The Whispering Wind (talk) 15:46, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

@The Whispering Wind: I think it is better to keep the redirect Bleeding Edge (novel) to Bleeding Edge. What do you think? -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ^{( T - C - G )} 15:54, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of List of bus routes in Karachi for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of bus routes in Karachi is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bus routes in Karachi until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. -
→Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 15:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 19, 2013

VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add <u> (underline), <sub> (subscript), and <sup> (superscript), <s> (strikethrough) and <code> (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl+2, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:39, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Cinepax logo.png)

Thanks for uploading File:Cinepax logo.png. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Werieth (talk) 15:16, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

October 2013 AFC Backlog elimination drive

WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

WikiProject AFC is holding a one month long Backlog Elimination Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running from October 1st, 2013 – October 31st, 2013.

Awards will be given out for all reviewers participating in the drive in the form of barnstars at the end of the drive.
There is a backlog of over 1100 articles, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out!

A new version of our AfC helper script is released! It includes many bug fixes, new improvements and features, code enhancements, and more. If you want to see a full list of changes, visit the changelog. Please report bugs and feature requests there, too! Thanks. --Mdann52talk to me!

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October 2013 Wikification Drive

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