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New requested move

Have you seen this new requested move?A ri gi bod (talk) 01:46, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Migyur Dorje entry

Hi CFlynn, I would like to raise concern about your moving the entry Namcho Migyur Dorje to Namcho Mingyur Dorje. I have serious reservations regarding the spelling, that is the redundant N in Mingyur. If you look at the Tibetan Wylie transcript, it's mi-gyur, there's no N. There's a meaning to the word min-gyur, which is Changeless, ming-gyur means Name-change. I'm advocating for the dignity of the saint's name to be preserved. It's ignorant, ridiculous and misleading to add the N. I can understand the name commons direct to use this name out if popularity and I suppose it's because of the modern Yongey Mingyur Dorje choosing to spell his name in that way. However, that's a different person. You can see in references, the official biography of terton Migyur Dorje. I have just discussed with Khenpo Sonam Tsewang, the co-writer and master teacher of the Namcho lineage, and he is absolutely adamant on the spelling. This should get fixed. I'm waiting to hear from Rigpa Wiki, whose entry is also Mingyur and might have added to this misunderstanding. Thanks for your consideration. Bugso (talk) 11:44, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Mipham

Hi Chris. I just noticed that you wrote most of the article on Ju Mipham; nice. Recently I started reading some of his works, due to discussions on the Svatantrika-Prasaṅgika distinction; I find his texts to be very informative and well-written; a delight compared to Tsongkhapa. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 08:16, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The writing system for Dzongkhag

Are you sure that Dzongkhag is written in Joyig script? In Karma Phuntsho's The History of Bhutan, he mentions that Joyig is used only informally. And there's like no information about Joyig available. You need to source the claim that Dzongkhag is written in Joyig. It seems that you've been to Bhutan but you can't just use your original resource. Maybe there's something in the National Library that you can, if you're still in Bhutan. ;) TryKid (talk) 15:37, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here's an excerpt from Phuntsho's book. Phuntsho seems to be pretty respected and reliable source for these things.

Dzongkha is the only written local language so far and it is written using Tibetan alphabets. Bhutanese use the Uchen script widely for formal documents and books and the Joyig script for informal writing. This script is considered to be a unique Bhutanese script although there is no evidence that it was commonly used in Bhutan before the twentieth century. The prototype of Joyig, used by some traditional scholars to prove its antiquity, resembles very closely the Tibetan scripts used before the eleventh century and now found in the documents discovered from the Dunhuang caves in Gansu. It also appears from the ancient manuscripts in Bhutan’s temples that the Bhutanese wrote a great deal in a variety of Ume scripts in the past although most Bhutanese today cannot even read Ume scripts and associate them with Tibetans.
— Karma Phuntsho, The History of Bhutan

TryKid (talk) 15:43, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wait I think I misunderstood some things. I'm not very intelligent. So, sorry for that. Yeah, so it seems that there's a distinction between Tibetan script and "Tibetan alphabets". Whatever that means. I've no knowledge or expertise in this topic so I'll just accept whatever you say. I just need an explanation for your changes in the Dzongkha article. Thank you. TryKid (talk) 16:09, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@TryKid:Hi ~ thanks for your query and the opportunity to clarify this. Joyig, a semi-cursive style of the Tibetan script which is unique to Bhutan, is officially the script for writing Dzongkha. It is also the form of the script in which all school children learn to write Dzongkha. Most Bhutanese can write Joyig well but not U-chen| (called Tsuyig in Bhutan) very well. So yes, Joyig is the form of script used for writing Dzongkha. However the situation is that there are currently no good Joyig fonts available for computers and mobile devices - so Bhutanese users are more or less forced to use Tsuyig / U-chen when typing Dzongkha on these devices and in printing even though they would prefer to use Joyig. The Dzongkha Development Commission is currently in the process of remedying this situation by developing standard Joyig fonts. While Dr. Karma Phuntsho says that Joyig was not commonly used in Bhutan before the twentieth century, the Dzongkha language itself only became formally established as a written language in the second half of the twentieth century. Previous to that, although Dzongkha was the common spoken language of western Bhutan everything was written in formal classical Tibetan in Tibetan forms of the Tibetan script. So the use of Joyig script is concurrent with emergence of Dzongkha as a written language. (Declaraion: I have worked for the Dzongkha Development Commission (DDC) and the National Library of Bhutan (NLB) as a consultant.)

BTW Dzongkha is the name of the national language of Bhutan while Dzongkhag (with a final g sound) is the Bhutanese word for a district. Very easy to confuse the two, I know - it even happens in Bhutan.

Chris Fynn (talk) 05:59, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the answer! I really appreciate it. I saw your page and honestly, you're a legend! I'm really surprised and happy to see someone dedicate their life to a small Tibetan country. Yeah, I wanted to type dzongkha but my phone autocorrected it to the word I write more often. Currently, I'm trying to get Districts of Bhutan to Featured List category. I hope to improve the coverage of Bhutan. Since you're so experienced in these topics, maybe you can help in this? See here. I'll greatly appreciate any help. TryKid (talk) 06:10, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It'll be great if you could help with the translations of dzongkha terms in Districts of Bhutan page. Thanks. TryKid (talk) 06:26, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@TryKid: I'll look over that article a soon as I have a little free time. Chris Fynn (talk) 03:54, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just a question in case you know something

Hey CFynn! Since you're living in Bhutan and speak dzongkha, I wanted to ask something. I'll be very grateful if you could answer it. Do you know when dzongkhags (districts) were established? I know that the decentralisation was started in 1981. Were districts created the same year? Or they were created beforehand and just the DYT came into effect in 1981 in the already existing districts? I'll be very grateful if you could tell me something about the history of districts of Bhutan, something that you think is missing from the article? Or maybe just point at some sources, preferably some that can be accessed online. Thank you. TryKid (talk) 18:15, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@TryKid: I'm not sure when they were formerly established as such - I'll try to find out and get back to you. The term Dzongkhag - really just implies the area under (governed/administrated/controlled by) a dzong. So I expect the term itself is quite old. Chris Fynn (talk) 04:03, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The name of the Bengal tiger in the language of the Dzongkha

Hi CFynn What is the name of the Bengal tiger in Dzongkha language? I want to write the name as it is written in the Dzongkha language and then write how it is pronounced in English. Thank you.محمد ماجد السورميري (talk) 12:42, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@محمد ماجد السورميري: Hi, The name for Tiger in the Dzongkha language is སྟག ་"tak" (with a hard t) or སེམས་ཅན་སྟག "sem-chen tak" - usually Bhutanese don't don't differentiate the species as there is only one species of Tiger found in Bhutan - you could however say བང་ལ་སྟག "bangla tak" for Bengal Tiger.

Here are links to some government publicatons on tigers in Bhutan: Tiger Action Plan for Bhutan (2018-2023) , Distribution and Habitat use of Tigers in Bhutan.
:Chris Fynn (talk) 06:22, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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A Very Belated Thanks!

I just noticed that the title to the Yidams page has finally been reverted to Yidam. Don’t think I’ve been on the page since about 2012 when I noted it was still under an obscure Sanskrit term I’d argued against in 2008. But seeing that it was you that made a request for a page move (wish I’d known about that and saved myself a lot of wasted energy!) I just wanted to thank you for doing that. I’m sure it’s made the article more accessible to users and helped give better direction to editors. And it definitely made my day ;-) Cheers! Dakinijones (talk) 00:32, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]