User talk:Butlerblog/Archives/2021/November

Broken infoboxes

Hello there, I've just found several instances where your cleanup actually wrecked the formatting of an infobox. Please see this edit at Games Night, and this one at Sono toki Heartwa Nusumareta. The removal of that first pipe character, after "{{Infobox television", is what's breaking things. Just a heads-up. Thanks! Jessicapierce (talk) 22:19, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Can you give me a rough number of "several"? That's a real question - not snark (which of course is hard to tell one way or the other when simply reading). While I did thousands of those with AWB, I review changes AWB is making before submitting. I can see why the ones you listed would have triggered the edit as a false positive, and both had invalid markup prior to the change. All I can say is that in the instances you pointed out, I was probably looking at the invalid end pipe and whether it was fatigue or simply moving too fast, did not notice the first one. Thanks for pointing these out and also for correcting them. ButlerBlog (talk) 17:23, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! I'm pretty sure it was just those two instances. No harm done! Cheers, Jessicapierce (talk) 17:50, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

That's good to know. Thanks! ButlerBlog (talk) 17:54, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

An AWB question and request

Hey, thanks for working on the TV maintenance categories. I was wondering if you can add another fix to the pages you run over. Some episode pages have incorrectly styled the episode name in the lead including the quotation marks so "NAME" and instead of "NAME". If your AWB run can fix those that would be great, if not, that's also ok :) Gonnym (talk) 12:50, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Sure - I can probably write a regular expression for checking that. I'll add it and see how it goes. I've only done about 100 or so in the current maintenance category I'm working on, and there are like 9700 more to go, so this is a good time to add it. Just to clarify, the correct format is "'''NAME'''", right? ButlerBlog (talk) 13:02, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I also found some that are '''''NAME''''', so those should also be formatted as "'''NAME'''", correct? ButlerBlog (talk) 13:17, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Television episodes are always in quotation marks and not italics while TV series are always in italics. The correct style is as you wrote, quotation marks-bold-name-bold-quotation marks. Gonnym (talk) 13:41, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Got it - thanks!! I'll see if I can get a regular expression in AWB to scan for and fix those. ButlerBlog (talk) 13:51, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Have you considered a bot?

Hi Butlerblog! I see you're using AWB to empty Category:Pages using infobox television episode with unnecessary title parameter. Have you considered submitting a bot request and running this as an AWB bot? This would make it easier for people to hide these minor changes from their watchlist. I'd also be happy to run this as a bot task if you like. Thanks, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:44, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I did consider that. However, I'm not sure whether it would be successful when done as a bot task. Even though I have finetuned the regular expression being used to run the AWB process, there are still around 10% of the potential edits that occur as false positives (most often the title parameter in the {{cite}} template), so it definitely needs a reviewable process. Thanks for the suggestion, and if you have additional ideas, suggestions, or feedback, I'm open to it. ButlerBlog (talk) 19:27, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Great job on clearing the massive categories! Gonnym (talk) 23:14, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Pages using infobox television episode with unnecessary manual displaytitle

I'm going to roll hopefully(!) tomorrow a fix to this category. It currently adds pages to it such as Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. series finale which is ok using a manual display title. Gonnym (talk) 23:19, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I was a little bit hesitant to get started on that category for that same reason, so I'm glad for that! On a related note, I have worked out a somewhat reliable regex for AWB to check the maintenance categories with date formatting issues. It still needs a little fine tuning, but I'm hoping it helps tackle the date categories. ButlerBlog (talk) 12:46, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

@Gonnym: Related question - some infoboxes include the "first_run" parameter using a date, which is incorrect. It is supposed to be the country/region, and then only if it is different from the "country" parameter. Does it make sense to either (a) keep it or (b) remove it altogether; and if keeping it, perhaps change the value to a and HTML comment noting the proper use (i.e. "country/region (omit if same as "country" parameter)")? Any thoughts? ButlerBlog (talk) 13:30, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

You are correct that it is being misused (and it should only show a different country). There seems to be an incoming discussion regarding removing some parameters from the television infoboxes soon. Probably a good idea to raise that issue there (I might be missing something, but it really seems to be a pointless parameter). If it doesn't happen I'll see how I can add the value to a tracking category when it is being misused. Gonnym (talk) 13:36, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good. I think I'll leave in my check for it while checking dates and just remove any nonstandard usage (leaving the parameter itself). I haven't seen too many while I was testing my regex for the nonstandard dates category, so maybe it's not a prevalent as I thought. ButlerBlog (talk) 14:20, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

OK, so the update didn't fix all the issues but around 30 of the entries in Category:Pages using infobox television episode with non-matching title are excluded from it. If you can skip those manually that would be great, if not, I'm assuming someone would at one point fix or revert those (though most of those have bigger problems such as their actual identity - episode or film? play? tv play? drama?). Gonnym (talk) 10:44, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep an eye out and hopefully catch them. ButlerBlog (talk) 12:21, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello

@Butlerblog:, ' hope things are ok by you. I noticed you editing pages I watch lately. I guess we've got some similar interests. Cool. I borrowed (is that the right word for the internet, because I just coppied it and put it on my page; still wanted to credit it's source) the How to use your user space link from your user page. Liberty5651 (talk) 13:03, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

No problem. That's just a wikilink - you don't have to credit anyone for that. ButlerBlog (talk) 14:30, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

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