User talk:BrightSunYellowFields

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This page has been created by me on behalf of Grain Connect who have paid me to create it. It has been written without the usual marketing jargon and has been referenced and cited to prove the assertions made. BrightSunYellowFields (talk) 11:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It has citations, sure. I agree that the language isn't "the usual marketing jargon". But is it an encyclopedia article? Most of this looks like information you'd go to their website to find, or things that are only really likely to feel all that significant to someone who works for them. For example: They also set a company record for installing a brand-new fibre line into a property, which had no pre-existing infrastructure, completing a customer sign-up, installation, and network connection in just 29 minutes. - is that really the sort of thing you'd expect to find in an encyclopedia article about a company that wasn't paying you? -- asilvering (talk) 22:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, perhaps the line was "too marketing" and happy to remove as I did with others when I received the copy from management. However other providers such as Virgin Media, TalkTalk, BT etc have a Wikipedia page. Grain is slightly different and, I believe, merits an inclusion in an encyclopedia, as it is part of a wave of "Altnet" providers that are not using the traditional infrastructure of the incumbent BT but rather investing hundreds of millions of pounds in their own network. Grain may succeed or fail as a business, but both events would be newsworthy and part of a period in UK communications history that should be recorded. BrightSunYellowFields (talk) 08:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It may well merit an encyclopedia article, but an encyclopedia article isn't "a list of facts from recent press releases". Imagine no one edits the article again for ten years - will the contents still be relevant? Regarding newsworthiness, that's exactly what we're looking for - have a look at WP:ORGCRIT. -- asilvering (talk) 15:57, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Grain Connect

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Grain Connect, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Grain Connect (September 16)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by GrabUp was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

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GrabUp - Talk 16:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Grain Connect (September 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Miminity was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 11:55, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Grain Connect (September 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Miminity was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Grain Connect and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 11:55, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Grain Connect (October 19)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by CFA were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Routine announcements do not count towards notability per WP:ORGTRIV.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Grain Connect and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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C F A 💬 22:18, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]