User talk:Birdman1

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You are under arrest for a typo in the Zero Wing Script.

How dare you mess up the Zero Wing script?!? The correct line is, "Somebody set up us the bomb." All your user page are now belong to us. You are on the way to destruction. --AYB Police 02:55, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. That's the strangest thing - I copied and pasted it directly from the AYBABTU Wikipedia script. --Birdman1 13:04, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Conv - Andy Wang

Congratulations on creating your first article! Note the changes that I made in the article. I added two categories, as with the 1st and 3rd. Remember to PLEASE ADD the article to your watchlist if you have not already. You need to monitor articles you create. If you would like me to add it to my own watchlist, please reply. If you have any questions on writing, feel free to reply (on my talk page). Thank you. -- Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 18:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

WOW!!!!! You took those pictures of the Malachite Kingfisher, BRAVO! I cannot say that enough times. I will give you another award if you upload more of your pictures that have excellent composition. Good job, Birdman1! GOOD JOB! I voted in WikiCommons as an IP. You are the best newcomer I have seen. Congratulations, man. -- Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 04:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Award

		The Exceptional Newcomer Award
		For your boldness of your contributions at your stage, for creating a good stub article, for uploading pictures of excellent composition, even reverting my own edits! Keep it up! Here's a cookie for you. :) -- Andy W. (talk/contrb.) 00:59, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Birdman, note that all award you receive should be deleted from your talk page completely. They should be moved onto your own user page. (Take a look at my own user page. All awards should go there.) -- Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 16:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Picture

Is it permissible to use this picture? --Birdman1 02:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

If you are going to use that picture: save it to your computer. In your "toolbox" on the left, (can you find it?) click "Upload file". Browse for the file on the computer. Find the appropriate liscence. That is most important. If you cannot find an appropriate liscence, do not upload it. I hope this helps. -- Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 02:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but where can I find the license? --Birdman1 02:31, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Click Upload file. It should give you a whole list of liscenses. Picking the right one is difficult. I have failed four times with that. Good luck. You know what? I will try to upload it myself to save you trouble. Stay alert. -- Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 02:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll try first, if you haven't already... --Birdman1 02:40, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Click on Upload file. The only two under Liscencing I found suitable are: -Photo of a two-dimensional work whose author died more than 100 years ago and Music sample. Just choose one. I would go with the first. Good luck. Go ahead! Are you going to upload it or not? -- Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 02:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I uploaded it but it didn't appear. I have to go - please upload it. --Birdman1 02:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

You successfully uploaded you first picture! Congratulations! Please look at Image:Ballade No. 2 manuscript.jpg! I added the liscense. I added it to the article. Now, please don't forget to add the picture to your watchlist. -- Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 03:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

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Birdman, I am sorry. Please do not be offended. I did not mean to be rude. It is just that a similar experience happened to me. I am sorry. -- Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 02:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh wow...I am So Sorry

About the Sahara Incident. I am so sorry but that was my 9 yr. old daughter, Amber, acting stupid. I just log on so I found a new message from you, when I did not do anything in Wikipedia. So a asked Amber(she was the only one using the computer during the whole day) if she did any thing and she did. So, you see, I am terribly sorry for the way my daughter was acting. P.s., Amber aslo is grounded and she told me that she meant to do it on the Stardust Hotel, which doesn't really help, but I thought you should know. Anyways, I am very sorry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Secretmist (talk • contribs) 04:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

Oh! I'm so sorry if I caused you any chagrine, but, as I'm sure you know, it was necessary for me to warn you. Apology completely accepted. No hard feelings. You took the right action once you knew what had happened. Thank you for clearing this up. --Birdman1 talk/contribs 15:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:LAVT and WP:POP

Here are the two tools that I have in my monobook.js. Use them wisely. You will be able to revert vandalism like crazy. However, don't depend on them; just get some more edits. Cheers. -- Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 15:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

RAF Lindholme

You didn't really give me time to correct a minor mistake. CS⁴⁶ 22:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You can see your edit here. It seemed to me like you were adding random nonsense. Please justify - maybe that resembled some sort of code I didn't know? --Birdman1 ^{talk/contribs} 22:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the actual page you will see that I was putting someone else's incorrectly formatted text into a table. I've now put my edit back.

CS⁴⁶ 22:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry - Goes to show what those auto-vandal-filters can do to your sanity! --Birdman1 ^{talk/contribs} 22:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

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Majorcan move

I have made a formal request for renaming the Mallorca article. If you want to have a look, go to Talk:Mallorca#Requested_move Francisco Valverde 16:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Sparrow weaver

It's ok if they reach in groups as far north as Ethiopia, but if these are stable populations, then it should be included in the distribution range, which I see it is not.

That is why I assume they are wanderers, mavericks (even in a small group form) or whatever the English word may be for that. I think you could improve the text by adding this info (I don't want to be reverted). Cheers. Mountolive | Talk 23:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

As the range map says (if that is what you mean by "distribution range", it is partial. Unfortunately, I do not have the precise range data and I'm not able to find it anywhere. Thank you for your help on this article - it is much appreciated. --Birdman1 ^{talk/contribs} 00:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Probably the range map (yes, that's what I meant by distribution range ;) should be removed because it is very inconsistent with the text (Ethiopia is way north of what the map depicts as its northernmost population) and the fact that the species northernmost range is, per the map, coinciding with the northern borders of Namibia, Zimbabwe...it just doesn't work. As we know, birds do not understand of these borders but of ecosystems, so I guess the map is not correct.

In my opinion, it may be better to have no map than a very sketchy or plain wrong one. It's up to you, anyway, since you seem more familiar with the species.

Thanks! Mountolive | Talk 04:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You are misinterpreting the map. The map says that it depicts the bird's distribution across southern Africa. The other countries are "blanked out" because I don't have data for them. If necessary, I can change the caption to make it clearer that this distribution is partial. In my opinion, it is better to have a (clearly) partial range map than none at all. I will revise the caption so that it is clearer that the map is partial. Again, thanks for the help. --Birdman1 ^{talk/contribs} 11:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

In that case, you are right: I was misinterpreting it. I strongly suggest that the map is not partial, because everyone is expecting from these maps to get one covering the whole species territory and, because of that, people may make the same mistake I did. If it is not available for any reason, I think that, in this case, it is better no map than a partial one. But, I just don't like to "step" on other users good faith work so, if you want to leave it in place, I won't remove it. Thanks Mountolive | Talk 16:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Edinburgh University Students' Association

You left the following message on my Talk page:

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Some of your recent edits, such as those you made to Edinburgh University Students' Association, have been considered unhelpful or unconstructive and have been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. --Birdman1 talk/contribs 18:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I have never made an edit to Edinburgh University Students' Association, as you can see from my contributions page. I therefore have no clue as to what you are talking about. If you cannot be accurate with your accusations, could you at least be specific. Hrafn42 19:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

You are correct. After reviewing my contributions, I saw that I warned the wrong user. I was using a semi-automatic anti-vandal tool, through which it is easy to get mixed up. Sorry for the confusion; I'm sure no administrators will mind if you delete the warning. I take full responsibility for the incident, but I have one suggest for you that may prevent further mishaps like this - create a user page. That way, it will be clearer that you are the very model of a modern Wikipedian. --Birdman1 ^{talk/contribs} 15:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

New Bird Wikipedian

Hi Birdman1: I'm a brand-new Wikipedian -- joined up less than a week ago -- and I'd love to get involved with the Bird WikiProject. I'm a birder by trade (I lead tours for a living), and have done quite a bit of writing for print media. How do I go about getting myself on the "participants" list that shows on the project page? I've been fumbling through the reams of help pages, but haven't quite worked it out. Do I just EDIT that section? And if so, should I put my name in alphabetically, or just stick it on the end? Also, I've been hard at work on an upscaling of the Whistling Kite entry (which is currently a stub); once I've it online, should I let the project know so that it can be checked and "graded"? MeegsC 20:46, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

First of all: WOW! I'm honored that you've come to me to ask for help. I'd love to guide you around. It's so difficult getting used to Wikipedia's structure as a newcomer. I'll answer your questions one by one.

• Yes. You just edit the section, placing your name in the right spot alphabetically.
• Yes. I would suggest bringing up the article on the project page's discussion area. You'll get far more responses there than you will in the assessment department - they're kind of slow.

If you need anything else at all, I'm here. Good luck and have fun! --Birdman1 ^{talk/contribs} 00:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Lists

see Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists The Placebo Effect 18:48, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

well done!

		The Barnstar of Life
		Birdman1, brilliant work on the Birds Portal. congrats cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 14:54, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Portal

Great job on the portal! One small hitch: I notice that there are a couple of the jobs on the "to do" list that have already been done. Shyamal has made a very nice new illustration for the Bird anatomy article (replacing the hideous picture we used to have), and SOMEBODY (actually lots of somebodies, according to the history) has at least made a start on Galloanserae. So we might want to come up with some new "top priorities"! MeegsC | Talk 16:42, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Bird Quotes

Hi Birdman: You asked for folks to send you quotes for the new portal. Here are some possibilities!

• The Eagle has landed. Neil Armstrong, on landing on the moon
• A lover's eyes will gaze an eagle blind. William Shakespeare
• The crow does not hide its prey, but calls for others to share it; so wealth will be with those of like disposition. Tiruvalluvar, 5th century AD
• I sometimes think I'd rather crow and be a rooster than roost and be a crow. Unknown, Faber Book of Comic Verse
• If you want to catch a sparrow, you have to spill a little rice. Chinese proverb
• Cosmic upheaval is not so moving as a little child pondering the death of a sparrow in the corner of a barn. Thomas Savage
• I have a magpie mind. I like anything that glitters. Lord Thompson of Fleet
• For one swallow does not make a summer, nor does one day. Aristotle
• His imagination resembled the wings of an ostrich. It enabled him to run, though not to soar. Thomas Babington Macaulay
• It does not matter a hoot what the mockingbird on the chimney is singing... The real and proper question is: Why is it beautiful? Annie Dillard
• This parrot is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet its maker! This is a late parrot! It's a stiff... THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!! John Cleese, in Monty Python's Flying Circus
• It was a pretty game, played on the smooth surface of the pond, a man against a loon. H D Thoreau
• Sitting in that dusky wilderness, under that dark mountain by the bright river which was full of reflected light, still I heard the Wood Thrush sing, as if no higher civilization could be attained. H D Thoreau
• That's the wise thrush; he sings each song twice over, lest you should think he never could recapture the first fine careless rapture! Robert Browning
• A hen is only an egg's way of making another hen. Samuel Butler
• The cocks may crow, but it's the hen that lays the egg. Margaret Thatcher
• I think the nightingale, if she should sing by day, when every goose is cackling, would be thought no better musician than the wren. William Shakespeare
• True hope is swift, and flies with swallow's wings. William Shakespeare

MeegsC | Talk 23:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Birds

Okay. I am looking at that Birds Portal right now. I don't see what I have to do. I would be glad to assist in updating the portal and helping in any way. — Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 03:27, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Birdman1, may I ask a favor of you? May you put all of the subpages of Portal:Birds on its talk page please? I mean, it is not necessary, but it may be useful to others or easier to navigate. What do you think? — Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 03:35, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Birdman! Nice to see you active again! I suppose you are back from your vacation; if so, I hope you enjoyed it! Birdman1, may you please see my previous post on your talk (above) about Portal:Birds? Thank you. — Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 00:11, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

• Unrelated comment: congratulations on over 1000 edits! — Andy W. ^{(talk/contrb.)} 17:33, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-08-15 Bill Moyers

I noticed you formally took up the medcab case. Since I haven't been mediating before, I hesitated to do so, but you may be interested in this. I also notified the previously involved editors [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. —AldeBaer 08:55, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Need A Bird Expert

Can you please check out Special:Contributions/Luna_perige and see if the editor's contributions are genuine? I think they're hoaxes but I'm not an expert on birds. --NeilN 04:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

FL Main page proposal

You either nominated a WP:FLC or closed such a nomination this year. As such, you are the type of editor whose opinion I am soliciting. We now have over 400 featured lists and seem to be promoting in excess of 30 per month of late (41 in August and 42 in September). When Today's featured article (TFA) started (2004-02-22), they only had about 200 featured articles and were barely promoting 20 new ones per month. I think the quality of featured lists is at least as good as the quality of featured articles was when they started appearing on the main page. Thus, I am ready to open debate on a proposal to institute a List of the Day on the main page with nominations starting November 1 2007, voting starting December 1 2007 and main page appearances starting January 1 2008. For brevity, the proposal page does not discuss the details of eventual main page content, but since the work has already been done, you should consider this proposal assuming the eventual main page will resemble either an excerpted list format or an abbreviated text format. The proposal page does not debate whether starting with weekly list main page entries would be better than daily entries. However, I suspect persons in favor of weekly lists are really voicing opinions against lists on the main page since neither TFA nor Picture of the day started as weekly endeavors, to the best of my knowledge. Right now debate seems to be among support for the current selective democratic/consensus based proposal, a selective dictatorial approach like that used at WP:TFA or a non-selective first in line/calendar approach like that used at WP:POTD. See the List of the Day proposal and comment at WP:LOTDP and its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Bill Moyers mediation case, requesting shutdown

Hi Birdman, could you close this case down now please? Thanks.   Skopp   15:01, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Featured List of the Day Experiment

There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 19:06, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Bill Moyers Closed Dispute?

Hi Birdman. I noticed you closed the dispute yet didnt make any comments on it. I stepped away from the page for a while because you were taking time away from it. I was busy myself and saw nothing was done besides childish name calling by Skopp telling me to "go away" and the like. What is your conclusion on it all? The guys there are trolls trying to deflect any criticism of Moyers that is totally justified IMO since it goes to his credibility and honesty...saying one thing to one person and totally denying it to another. Arnabdas (talk) 17:28, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

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European Lemon Bird

Hello! Could you take a look at European Lemon Bird? I've had a quick hunt in a couple of the sources listed on the Bird portal but can find no reference to the species. Either its a hoax, or its an article that needs some real help with wikification and bringing format into line with other bird articles.

Thanks --Cje (talk) 08:24, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

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Category:People from Tunisia

Hi, I thought I'd ask you about this first before taking it to CFD. It caught my eye because it's name is non-standard: "People from" categories are basically reserved for cities, states, provinces, etc. I rather suspect that this one is completely redundant to Category:Tunisian expatriates, Category:Tunisian emigrants, and Category:People of Tunisian descent. Since you created the category, I figured you probably know if this is the case, i.e. if the people who are listed all fit in one or more of those other categories. So please let me know what you think. Cgingold (talk) 20:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

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Australian Raven

Dear Birdman

I am currently trying to track down the name given to The Australian Raven's young if there is a special name used. If there isn't one for this specific type of Raven, could you tell me the name in general for a Raven's young.

Cheers

James. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.226.194 (talk) 19:32, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Collab-bird

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List of books about the Troubles

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