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Why aren't non-free high resolution raster logos allowed when their SVG versions are?

Non-free logos of many organizations on Wikipedia are vector images which have a resolution of ∞*∞. It isn't Wikipedia's policy to limit the resolutions of non-free images to 250 or 300px; if this was then it would have never used SVG versions of the non-free logos. Anyway Wikipedia can be sued over using SVG versions of the non-free images. According to Wikipedia, use of higher resolution/vector logos is acceptable if it "contains information stored more efficiently and/or accurately". Only it is not to be rendered in larger resolutions in the articles.

The following template is used on file pages to state the same thing:

Please undo your revert to this file. Please do not re-upload the smaller resolution logo if I undo your revert. Please do not remove any non-free images just because they are high resolution; just ensure they are rendered as less than "250 or 300px" in the respective articles. ∃  Aaditya 7  18:16, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Reply: I appreciate your initiative to discuss it first before going any edit warring. This is not something that I'm making by myself, I was also in impression as you are about the size of non-free images, but an admin rebuked me over this. If you've noticed that one of your another uploaded file tagged by me has been re-uploaded by some another user with reduced size, notice the current size, this is like a non-stated rule to keep non-free images' size not more than 300px300px. So I'll advice you to not revert mine edit and avoid uploading non-free medias over 300px300px limit, especially for an infobox image. I hope you'll understand. --Bill william comptonTalk 18:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Reply: SVG's (nominally 300px) too can be rendered in ∞*∞ resolution. In other words a 300px SVG image can still store efficiently an image of any resolution. User:Jovianeye did not remove any information from the image when he 'reduce supplied' it; he only reduced the "nominal" resolution of the image. The resolution-limit is applicable only when images are rendered in articles; otherwise why would those countless number of logos of very notable organizations be in SVG format? Why? Take a look at this logo. If non-free SVG (∞*∞) logos are allowed why aren't raster (finite*finite) images allowed? Some articles might need a low-resolution version of the image, while others may need a high-resolution image. That is why the image on the file page should have all the information there is. What User:Jovianeye did to this image, in no way, contradicts with what I am saying. You've disappointed me by tagging my uploads with ((Non-free reduce)). Why don't you understand that the resolution-limit is only applicable when you render those images in the articles? Why haven't you tagged this logo with ((Non-free reduce)) when it is way above 300px resolution?∃  Aaditya 7  07:44, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
  • This really isn't my area of expertise, but I was asked to comment here as an admin who ocassionally dablles in NFC work. The rule is that a non-free image shouldn't be any bigger than it needs to be to fulfil its purpose. So a logo used to identify an organisation shouldn't be any bigger than is absolutely necessary for that identification. Rarely do you need images bigger than 300px in an article, which is why the rule of thumb is ~300px. This is to comply with both the US law on "fair use" and Wikipedia's much stricter policy on the use of non-free media. For any other questions, I would suggest you ask User:Fastily or User:Magog the Ogre—they 're both experts on the file namespace. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:42, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Non-free files in your user space

Hey there Bill william compton, thank you for your contributions. I am a bot, alerting you that non-free files are not allowed in user or talk space. I removed some files I found on User talk:Bill william compton. In the future, please refrain from adding fair-use files to your user-space drafts or your talk page.

  • See a log of files removed today here.

Thank you, -- DASHBot (talk) 05:03, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Not me, unfortunately some user who most probably doesn't know about the usage of non-free images did this. --Bill william comptonTalk 09:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

reply of your message

I appreciate your advice.....I am on wikipidia with the username Nikunj0211 for a long time.....sometimes I forgot to log in before editing the contents. I will remember to log in before editing from the next time —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.205.104.239 (talk) 10:34, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Reply: I'm a member of Welcoming Committee, so it's my duty to welcome new users and IPs to guide them about the Wikipedia. --Bill william comptonTalk 11:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Mass deletion

Hi if you have a lot of deletion to do you can give a list to an admin willing to delete rather than tag everything. THis could be for vandalisms, or copyright violations for example. However when it comes to villages they should not be speedy deleted for not being very important. There is no speedy delete criteria for it. I would suggest that you urge the creator to add more content to the article to make it worthwhile. eg coordinates, population, transport, amenities, history, meaning of name. In Australia we already have an article for just about every village, so I don't see why India and China cannot have the same coverage as well. The main difference will be the accessibility of English sources. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, I guess there is no CSD for a non-notable geographical place, but let me explain my reasons:
  1. None of these articles has a single reference and there will never be any reliable one, as sources for such non-notable villages do not exist.
  2. Coordinates are hard to find as no web mapping service (like google maps) doesn't point them and it is very hard to locate them manually.
  3. It is almost impossible to find any records of population, amenities,etc.
  4. There is no such history, which is to be mention here on Wikipedia, actually it is broadly applicable to all Indian villages with very few exceptions.
There might be many such reasons,and even if I urge creator to add something, I don't think there would be any fruitful results, like for example this article has been tagged for notability and unreferenced tags since September 2010, but still tags are there and no improvement has made. Especially if there is not a single source at the article then how we'd know that this place even exists on this earth. My point is that we should try to focus more on quality rather than quantity. It is just to be mention that in India it is much easier to find sources in English as compare to any other Indian language and being fellow Commonwealth citizen, I think you should be aware of that. — Bill william comptonTalk 09:42, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 9 May 2011

New coordinator

I have opened up a new discussion on WikiProject Multi-sport, about appointing a new coordinator. Please leave your thoughts there. Thank you. [1] Intoronto1125TalkContributions 03:42, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


Title of Lil Zane

hello, i put some info on Lil' Zane's discussion page of what should be changed but no one has responded, what should i do? Gpath1k (talk) 01:37, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Reply: May be you missed out the basic instructions of posting message on the other user's talk page, so I made a section for your query; always make a new section wherever you start a new discussion. According to your post on Talk:Lil Zane, I interpret that you asked for changing the title of Lil Zane article and if you think this title is not a correct one then provide some reliable source for your claim, either on the talk page of the article or here and title would be change. I'd recommend you should refer Move for better understanding in this matter, so that in future you'd be able to do it by yourself. — Bill william comptonTalk 10:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

ICC Cricket World Cup - Full Official Name

Hello Bill William Compton. I fully Agree with you on your decision to name the Full Official Name of the Tournament of ICC Cricket World Cup as i had seen your stance on the 2015 ICC Cricket World Cup. As you see the Full Official Name of the Tournament is ICC Cricket World Cup and not Cricket World Cup as ICC is the Main Organizer/Administrator of the Tournament just like in FIFA where all the world cups have been named as starting with their Respective year with FIFA World Cup. For Eg. Like starting from the First 1930 FIFA World Cup, 1974 FIFA World Cup, etc. to the Most Recently held 2010 FIFA World Cup. And even After me changing the name of the Main article of the Tournament Including all the other world cups from 1975 ICC Cricket World Cup to the most Recently held 2011 ICC Cricket World Cup and the most recent available 2019 ICC Cricket World Cup other users were Just busy undoing My Good Work back to where it was. I have Full Legitimate Evidences to Prove this as you can yourself see on the ICC's Official Website but some users just want to ignore it. I therefore kindly Request you to do what You, I and almost Everyone agrees that what the Proper Name should Be. I hope your coordination will be Useful and Appreciated. Thank You KS700 (talk) 19:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Fair user rationale of File:Paradise tq.jpg

thank you :) i also got messages about the picture files i uploaded before. wikipedia is sending me messages to identify where i got the picture from (i scanned all the album art files and my other ones where screen shots). i'm happy to tell them where i got it from but im finding the instructions confusing To add this information, click on this link, then click the "Edit" tab at the top of the page and add the information to the image's description. If you need help, post your question on Wikipedia:Media copyright questions

the link being the picture i uploaded. i go there but i dont know what to do next. can you help me? the reason i didnt put the information when i uploaded the files is because i didnt know how to do it (at the time) but i know how to do it now but i still dont know how to make changes to the info of files i uploaded (example: where the file came from - scan, photo, screenshot...)

File:Paradise_tq.jpg this is one of the many files i need to update info i didnt put Gpath1k (talk) 03:49, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Reply: First I want you to read WP:User talk page, I told you to make a section whenever you start a new discussion over other user's talk page and also remember non-free images are not allowed on the user's space, just like you added an image. It'd be better if you provide an URL of file's page.
Follow these steps for adding "source" information at your file of concern:
  1. Go there.
  2. Add information at the entry — "|source = ".
  3. Preview and save the page.
I hope it will help. — Bill william comptonTalk 08:44, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

The Wikifier: March 2011




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Sorry this Newsletter is late, It should have gone out a month ago. I've been very busy in real life and didn't have time to get over to the newsletter. In this edition of the Newsletter, we have an editorial written by our new executive coordinator; Guoguo12. Guoguo12 has succeeded Mono due to an indefinite wikibreak. We also have the results of the February and March Mini drives.

Happy Wikifying,

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