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Your submission at Articles for creation: Pleasant DeSpain (July 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Scope creep were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Promotional.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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scope_creep^Talk 09:31, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ben Airdunat! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! scope_creep^Talk 09:31, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Pleasant DeSpain concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Pleasant DeSpain, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:28, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Pleasant DeSpain

Hello, Ben Airdunat. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Pleasant DeSpain".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! JMHamo (talk) 21:10, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Pleasant DeSpain has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Pleasant DeSpain. Thanks! Fiddle Faddle 07:13, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have left you an extra link on my own talk page. Thank you for askkng me for help. Fiddle Faddle 07:35, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Pleasant DeSpain has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Pleasant DeSpain. Thanks! Fiddle Faddle 09:02, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Pleasant DeSpain has been accepted

Pleasant DeSpain, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

Fiddle Faddle 09:20, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to see you here as a hobby editor

I know DeSpain was a paid article. But I hope you enjoyed the process. You have a decent writing style for Wikipedia, something that will develop over time (even if you are a professional writer, Wikipedia is very different), and may find it a rewarding hobby. As long as you declare paid submissions as you have with DeSpain, write those through WP:AFC and are scrupulous in not editing artcles you have been paid for once they are proomoted to being articles except by using {{Request edit}} on their talk page (except for very simple factual corrections, typos etc), then you will be able to enjoy editing here as an amateur, too.

Well, that was a rambling sentence! Fiddle Faddle 10:32, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not quite sure how to answer or communicate with you. Let's see if this works. Thanks for the compliment and the invite. I'm pretty well packed with writing my own books, editing other folks' work, building websites, walking the dog, etc. Ben Airdunat is a pen name only used for some online stuff. You can view more at www.kingcobrapress.com or at the very neglected www.lifeinthelaughlane.com.

Your assistance was splendid (full of splen). One think that made the process difficult for me was the variance in pages that are currently live. All the rules didn't seem to apply equally to all the pages, but I think that's life in a nutshell in the world these days. And the reams of instructional pages to absorb were formidable. You walked me through to success, though, and I thank you. I don't know what I could suggest to make the process smoother, but I didn't quite understand how to keep track of when the submission might be accepted. I remember seeing that 3,000+ submissions were ahead. I didn't want to harass the people or the process, so a year went by before I got a message about the rejection. I had a serious bout with cluster headaches from October to February then COVID slipped in and the US of Angst went to hell. Luckily I live in Thailand. 70 million people, first case Jan 13 I think, total of 3,000-some cases, only 58 deaths, no domestic cases here for more than 2 months.

When Pleasant returns, I'll see if I can find some more supporting references for the awards. And I know pics are his, but maybe we can fill out the appropriate Commons forms. Thanks again for your help. One last question: where are you located? I see you tell people the time, but I never quite understood where you might be...

Scott

Ben Airdunat (talk) 11:07, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Airdunat, I'm in the UK, deep in south Devon

Wikipedia is a daunting place, and there is little consistency. The devolved nature means it is a pleasant social experiment.

I try to help where I can, mainly because it's fun! Fiddle Faddle 12:13, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]