User talk:Batatafrite
March 2023
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Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 12:44, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Argania, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. M.Bitton (talk) 13:41, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- I corrected interpreted information, failed attempts to artificially grow a tree in a nursery should not be confused with existence of that tree in a given natural habitat. While the study itself says it was a failed attempt. 2A02:A210:2280:8780:7DA:E8B:867A:11B0 (talk) 13:43, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- I suggest you read the sources that you attempted to remove. M.Bitton (talk) 13:46, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- i Did not remove a source, I added a source, you removed the source that i added.
- The history tab show you deleted the source i added. 2A02:A210:2280:8780:7DA:E8B:867A:11B0 (talk) 13:49, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- It's worse that I first thought: you misrepresented a source to match you nationalist POV. M.Bitton (talk) 13:53, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- the scientific article talks about a failed attempt to grow Moroccan Argan trees in a nursery in Algeria.
- M Button interprets it as Argan trees grow naturally in Algeria.
- Your mistake is here sir, say in the article that All relation Ragan has with Algeria, is that the latter failed growing it naturally on it's soil. This way you be relating the truth and not a politically engaged wikipedia article. 2A02:A210:2280:8780:7DA:E8B:867A:11B0 (talk) 13:55, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- It's worse that I first thought: you misrepresented a source to match you nationalist POV. M.Bitton (talk) 13:53, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- I suggest you read the sources that you attempted to remove. M.Bitton (talk) 13:46, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Haik. It is considered spamming and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings. If you continue spamming, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thank you. Philipnelson99 (talk) 19:58, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- the link i posted is to a book that has been written in the 14th century, it is historical evidence, you can block my account for making the truth flagrant to everybody here in wikipedia.
- Now i think that you guys are politically motivated, because you are denying what historians wrote and supporting broken links and untrusted sources, like the one i declared to be broken (Nr 5), the source has been archived but the information has not been corrected. Batatafrite (talk) 20:06, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Haik. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. M.Bitton (talk) 20:41, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- I repeat: You consider historical evidence as edit war, it is your own personal opinion, it doesn't change the historical evidence though. You may live your moment of glory now Mr Britt, but that books has survived more than 600 years, you will die sometime while the evidence will stay intact. Have a good life facist. 2A02:A210:2280:8780:4508:1840:AB98:40C0 (talk) 20:57, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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. Girth Summit (blether) 22:04, 21 March 2023 (UTC)- I have been blocked from editing, because @M.Bitton doesn't want to enrich the article that is talking about an Andalusian garment, with contemporary Andalusian historian Ismail Ibn Al Ahmar, who has a dedicated wikipedia article, who has recorded in his book "The greatest Houses of Fes" at page 24, a reference about Haik (garment).
- I asked them to read it, they did not read it, because i doubt they speak Arabic, Andalusia was an Arabic speaking country, the person who is responsible about what changes gets approved in this page AKA M@M.Bitton, are not willing to include historic contemporary sources in the article.
- If i have been blocked it is because i enriched the article with a truth that @M.Bitton doesn't want to know, or even worse doesn't want people to know.
- I don't think this is part of the rules of wikipedia to disregard contemporary historians when talking about something coming from the country they were living in, nor to block people who are bringing enrichments and preciseness. Batatafrite (talk) 21:47, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- No, you're blocked because you threw a tantrum, called people fascists, and threatened to sue them over a disagreement about what our articles say about a piece of clothing. That is not how rlwe resolve disagreements here. Girth Summit (blether) 10:27, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Suing is a right, not a threat. I made a mistake calling people facists while what they are is illetrate like yourself. 2A02:A420:50:BE96:91B4:87E4:178B:B856 (talk) 10:02, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- WP:NLT is policy - you have a right to take legal action if you wish to, but you may not edit here if you indicate that you might do so. And if you are going to insult people (WP:NPA) using the word 'illiterate', you would do well to check its spelling. Best Girth Summit (blether) 11:02, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- You are still responsible and reliable for the unchanged propaganda in the article, you haven't addressed this issue.
- The reason provided to me for the block was "not here to build an encyclopedia", i guess that is why you are here for, nonetheless what i see is a propagandist encyclopedia project, that blocks anyone who has an irrefutable information from editing and accuses them to be "not here to build an encyclopedia". 2A02:A420:48:EB0E:FC64:50A1:9959:4826 (talk) 11:06, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I have no idea who is right about the content you are in dispute about; what I saw was a new account coming to make some changes to an article about an item of clothing, and immediately insulting people and threatening to sue them. Perhaps 'not here to build an encyclopedia' wasn't the right block rationale - a better rationale might have been 'making personal attacks', 'making legal threats' or just plain old 'disruptive editing'. Regardless, I don't see this conversation going anywhere productive - I have explained my actions, and don't intend to continue discussing it with you. The instructions for appealing your block are linked to from the block notice, you are at liberty to try to persuade another administrator that you should be unblocked if you sincerely think that I have made an error. I'll add that you will need to log into your account to make an unblock request - a request made through an IP address by someone who may or may not be the owner of the account will not be considered. Girth Summit (blether) 11:54, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I see you're still not addressing your propaganda practices... 2A02:A420:48:EB0E:DA5A:CEC0:6545:BC40 (talk) 16:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I won't adhere to the practice of persuading or convincing admins here, i don't know who pays admins and what are their motivations to do such a job.
- Truth and historical evidence are crystal clear, if you don't want to include them in the article, then you are the one "not here to build an encyclopedia" 2A02:A210:2280:8780:995E:1878:2B32:D3A3 (talk) 17:13, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I see you're still not addressing your propaganda practices... 2A02:A420:48:EB0E:DA5A:CEC0:6545:BC40 (talk) 16:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- I have no idea who is right about the content you are in dispute about; what I saw was a new account coming to make some changes to an article about an item of clothing, and immediately insulting people and threatening to sue them. Perhaps 'not here to build an encyclopedia' wasn't the right block rationale - a better rationale might have been 'making personal attacks', 'making legal threats' or just plain old 'disruptive editing'. Regardless, I don't see this conversation going anywhere productive - I have explained my actions, and don't intend to continue discussing it with you. The instructions for appealing your block are linked to from the block notice, you are at liberty to try to persuade another administrator that you should be unblocked if you sincerely think that I have made an error. I'll add that you will need to log into your account to make an unblock request - a request made through an IP address by someone who may or may not be the owner of the account will not be considered. Girth Summit (blether) 11:54, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- WP:NLT is policy - you have a right to take legal action if you wish to, but you may not edit here if you indicate that you might do so. And if you are going to insult people (WP:NPA) using the word 'illiterate', you would do well to check its spelling. Best Girth Summit (blether) 11:02, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Suing is a right, not a threat. I made a mistake calling people facists while what they are is illetrate like yourself. 2A02:A420:50:BE96:91B4:87E4:178B:B856 (talk) 10:02, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- No, you're blocked because you threw a tantrum, called people fascists, and threatened to sue them over a disagreement about what our articles say about a piece of clothing. That is not how rlwe resolve disagreements here. Girth Summit (blether) 10:27, 26 March 2023 (UTC)