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I reuploaded the poster for falling from earth

I'm still a beginner with this so sometimes things are disappearing on me.... can you take a look at the khalass article i got a couple of flags i don't know how to deal with them....thanks for your help

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Hey Banzoo

I noticed you are quite active in the lebanese film category, would it be too much to ask of you to add Wikiproject Lebanon assessment banners {{WikiProject Lebanon|class=|importance=}} atop the articles you write/edit talk pages? I am sure you are familiar with assessment criteria, you can always refer to the assessment page. thank you mate Eli+ 10:32, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

oh and i need your opinion about starting a barnstar-like WPLEbanon medal, leave you comments on the wikiproject's talk page thanks Eli+ 10:34, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Historical Panorama of Beirut

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Hi

Just noticed that your native language is Arabic and you're in Lebanon. There's some wonderful material at the Library of Congress about the Middle East, and your skills and knowledge would be really helpful (from the other side of the world it can be difficult to understand context). Your email isn't enabled, so if you're shy about enabling Skype let's talk on wiki. Best wishes, Durova³⁴² 16:08, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Durova, I'll enable email later this week and hope to be able to collaborate with you on Skype later; (Sorry! A bit busy for the moment to enable it right now.) Cheers! --Banzoo (talk) 17:39, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the picture nomination

I just wanted to say, thanks for trying to get a picture through the FP process. I don't know how the discussion got so out of control, but please keep submitting pictures and don't get discouraged from gruff comments. Your contributions are appreciated. Remember (talk) 02:07, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank for this comment, despite the harsh debate on wikipedia, the same picture got full support when nominated on commons. This gave me a little push to keep submitting pictures. And thank you for doing this little research and for providing the reference. --Banzoo (talk) 11:01, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

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1. Noura Rahal - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Baalbek Temple Complex

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		Lebanese Barnstar of National Merit
		In appreciation for your great effort in adding valuable pictures and increasing Wikipedia's coverage of Lebanon. Wikiproject Lebanon is thankful for your outstanding and quality contributions. Eli+ 12:54, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

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One of your photos is featured on the Disability Portal

I thought you might like to know that the photo "Blind man carrying a paralysed man" is one of the featured pictures on the Disability Portal. Roger (talk) 17:00, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

November 2010

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Solomon's Temple. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. -- Avi (talk) 01:19, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I did not add any comment. To the contrary, I added a tag to avoid having personal analysis inside wikipedia's articles. Please join the discussion in the talk page of the article instead of polluting my talk page. Thanks! --Banzoo (talk) 12:53, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Stating the bible is a work of fiction is pushing a distinct point-of-view, and tagging the article like a comic book can easily be seen as provocative. -- Avi (talk) 12:58, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Encyclopedias rely on scientific methods. If the content of an article lacks the evidence it should be clearly stated and presented as such. There is no distinction if it's a fiction book or a religious book as long as both are missing the proofs. Double standards should be avoided in articles. --Banzoo (talk) 13:07, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

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:Further tagging of religious articles as fiction will be considered disruption of the encyclopedia to make a WP:POINT and may result in blocks without further notice. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:24, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

A warning because a tag did not meet a POV of some user, that's a first! --Banzoo (talk) 19:37, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

No, it's not a question of POV, it's a question of insulting lots of other editors. That is what's disruptive. Find a way to make your point without insulting other people, and everything will be fine. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:03, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I think misleading the readers is a much more important issue to solve. If you take your time to understand the tag, its only purpose is to push clarity inside an article. I am not sure how anyone would find it insulting when we ask for clarity inside an article. It is the same as stating that "citation needed" tag is considered disruptive for some people. --Banzoo (talk) 20:11, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

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Reporting of reverts on 1996 shelling of Qana

I have reported the dispute between me and you to the admin here [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Owain the 1st (talk • contribs) 17:29, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Minor edits

Banzoo, this is not a "minor" edit and shouldn't have been flagged as such. Could you please read WP:MINOR. Thanks. Sean.hoyland - talk 18:00, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Ohiostandard talk

Hi, Banzoo. Thanks for your agreement to "statements" in this article. I understood and agreed with your objection to "response, and perhaps "spin" would be a word I might use in casual conversation, too, but not in an encyclopedia article, unless supported by reliable sources. I'm glad this appears to be settled, but I did just want to point out to you that it would have been settled much, much more quickly and easily if you hadn't been so insistent on your way alone as the right way. Contrary to your apparent perception, the people you were arguing with over that word were not Zionists intent on whitewashing the article. On the contrary, most editors would, I think, agree that Owain and Sean Hoyland favor the pro-Palestinian outlook on I/P issues. Nor, to the best of my knowledge, is Errant known for any particular POV re I/P matters. Your having been so stubborn over the issue (sorry, but that's the way I see it) just sucked up a lot of time that those editors could have been using to improve other articles that you probably care about, in a more substantial way. Before you rush into battle next time with the assumption that those opposing your wishes are opposed to Palestine, you might like to look at their contribution histories. Or better yet, just don't assume that those who disagree with one of your edits are opposed to your views on Palestine. In this case, it would be more accurate to say the opposite was true. If you want to reply you can do so here, as I've temporarily watchlisted this page. Best,  – OhioStandard (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Dear OhioStandard, Thanks for your comment, although, I should note that I do not have any prior prejudgment on any user or contribution. From where I stand, the reverts were not founded and didn't answer my concerns, if you review the history, all reverts can be understood or summed up with: "you are wrong, we are right, do not try to modify our edits anymore or you will be reported and blocked". During all the lengthy discussion, it can be viewed as threats to be blocked. So, without any proper justification of their reverts, I did not see any reason to keep the word "response" since it is not used in a proper context.--Banzoo (talk) 17:40, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, I read the thread, and everyone (you included, and perhaps most of all) just dug their heels in and said "You're wrong! I'm right! I'm changing it back to my way!" Those were very reasonable people you were fighting with, and if you'd approached the conflict more respectfully, had been willing to make your point calmly instead of in an accusing way, and been willing to think in terms of a reasonable compromise, you would have got what you wanted a lot more quickly and saved yourself and everyone else loads of time and strife. I know it's easy to dig your heels in when you're sure you're right, but maybe don't do it so fast next time? And maybe don't ramp up the intensity so rapidly, next time, if you can help it? Easy for me to say, I know, and much harder in practice, of course. Still well worth striving for, though. Best,  – OhioStandard (talk) 20:06, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I didn't throw any accusations, I only reiterated my concerns about the choice of the title. I got no answers, only unrelated replies. As if my question has not been read at all. --Banzoo (talk) 16:44, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

You did get answers, you just didn't like them. People said "spin" fails our NPOV requirement, and they were correct. I doubt you'd find one in one hundred established editors here who would accept "spin", even if those 100 included only pro-Palestinian editors. You might as well have said "propaganda" or "lies". It's fine if that's what you think, but it doesn't matter what you think. It matters what reliable sources say. If you want to say "spin" or "propaganda" or "damned lies" or whatever, you can only say so if reliable sources have said it first. That's fundamental to our no original research policy.

If you could have separated your argument into two parts, the first to say "response" is wrong, and the second to say "spin" is right, you would have done better. People would have agreed right away, without all the drama. It was your insistence on the non-neutral, original research (since no reliable source describe it that way) word "spin" that was the problem. Again, if you want to use an NPOV word, go find a reliable source that does so. Otherwise you have to use neutral words that do not imply any value judgment, even you think a value judgment is called for. No rudeness intended, but that's really all I have time to say about this. Best regards,  – OhioStandard (talk) 19:04, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

The definition of the word spin is valid in the case of the article, while "response" is not, regardless if others would like it or not. Wikipedia is not a democracy, it's about accuracy! --Banzoo (talk) 13:55, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Rollback of your edit to Solomon's Temple

I have again reverted your persistent attempt to introduce material into the lead of this article. It fails because 1) you introduced issues into the lead not covered in, and irrelevant to, the body of the article; 2) the article is not a review of BAR, an established reliable source; 3) the link which you are citing to support the charge of religious bias on the part of historians is an online blog (regardless of whether or not it is reviewing the journal) not subject to editorial oversight and other factors which determine its acceptibility as a RS; and 4) the slur against a vague group of "historians" falls very short of Wikipedia's OR and NPoV policies. The initial report on the artifact(s) was widely reported, but its conclusions have since been seriously undermined (not by BAR, but by scholars). There is still disagreement over the status of the artifact(s), which is what the article should, and currently does, state. • Astynax ^talk 08:02, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Reverting is not the solution, the religious background of these "scholars" should be clearly stated whenever their claims are mentioned so the reader wont be mis-leaded. --Banzoo (talk) 11:02, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

The scholars who are not in agreement with the IAA report include self-proclaimed Christians, atheists, agnostics and Jews (and there may be yet other religious and non-religious views of which I'm unaware). Were the religious views of the scholars a concern raised in other reliable sources, then you would need to determine the religious backgrounds of the supporters of all the various factions/views. When the forgery trials are concluded shortly, there will be more and firmer information which may lead to firmer consensus, or at least further scientific investigation. Until then, it is premature and PoV-pushing to attack views based on religion affiliation or non-affiliation. • Astynax ^talk 07:18, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Would you provide the list of the scholars (along with their nationalities and religions) who agree with the fabricated doubts? Sources mentioning the background of each would be highly appreciated. --Banzoo (talk) 15:26, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

You can easily determine who has disputed (and/or changed the support for) the original IAA report which labeled the artifacts to be counterfeits. You should be able to gather that from coverage on the trial dealing with the alleged counterfeiting, as well as published recent statements by the parties. It is up to you, as the editor adding the assertion, to provide ironclad WP:V and WP:RS references to back up your contention that such scholars have been swayed by religious prejudices. • Astynax ^talk 03:00, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

I already provided a source, but you decided that my reference cannot be used and came up with claims without providing any refs to back them (e.g. "The scholars who are not in agreement with the IAA report include self-proclaimed Christians, atheists, agnostics and Jews"). When you come up with such assertions, would you provide your sources. --Banzoo (talk) 14:24, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

POTD notification

POTD

Hi Banzoo,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Pano Baalbek 1.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on January 30, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-01-30. —howcheng {chat} 23:43, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

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